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leggywillow

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DeaHamlet wrote...
I'm not even romancing him and he gives me that.  I'm SO convinced that no matter what he totally has a crush on Hawke, whether he/she goes for him or not.  *giggles*


Yeah, I feel like it's pretty safe to assume that Anders has a thing for Hawke no matter what you do.  That's especially obvious when you romance Fenris and get some dialogue and a bit of party banter in which Anders is very obviously jealous.  XD

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MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Worse clipping for males? :P 
That was the only difference I saw.

And here's the video for the male Hawke/Anders romance without clothes! (they're in the underum....pants?)

www.youtube.com/watch


I was totally on board until the hairy hands. Hahahah yuck.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

I doubt that would work. There's no way he would EVER put a curiousity over what he views as his duty and purpose. He thinks love gets in the way of mage freedom so why would he let the fact he thinks it's interesting and wants to know more get in the way? He's too single-minded for that. In Awakening he didn't really have any purpose which is why he latched onto killing all the darkspawn who might have been someway responsible for Kristoff's death. Now he does have a greater purpose and constantly gets reminded of why things need to change.

As cliche as it may sound, my Kaya Hawke's reason for supporting the cause is love - for Anders and Justice, her family, and every mage who she feels deserves the right to live, be free, have emotions, and families of their own. Love doesn't always have to take away from supporting a cause. Justice doesn't understand that yet because he doesn't understand human emotion, but I think if he's shown enough times, the idea could start to sink in.

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I don't know if this has already been thrown up as an Andersmance song, but it's so much like my Rain Hawke and Anders I have to mention it p:

Neutron Star Collision- Muse



It makes me tear up listening to it ><

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Kim Shepard wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

I doubt that would work. There's no way he would EVER put a curiousity over what he views as his duty and purpose. He thinks love gets in the way of mage freedom so why would he let the fact he thinks it's interesting and wants to know more get in the way? He's too single-minded for that. In Awakening he didn't really have any purpose which is why he latched onto killing all the darkspawn who might have been someway responsible for Kristoff's death. Now he does have a greater purpose and constantly gets reminded of why things need to change.

As cliche as it may sound, my Kaya Hawke's reason for supporting the cause is love - for Anders and Justice, her family, and every mage who she feels deserves the right to live, be free, have emotions, and families of their own. Love doesn't always have to take away from supporting a cause. Justice doesn't understand that yet because he doesn't understand human emotion, but I think if he's shown enough times, the idea could start to sink in.

I can actually see Anders getting annoyed at my Hawke because her support for mages is rooted deeply in wanting better for Bethany and the memory of her father instead of any grand ideals and because she can't guarantee she'd have been at all interested in the conflict if it hadn't been for the family connection. But then, I also have to wonder if it would have mattered to Anders if he hadn't been born a mage. As it stands, they both have personal reasons to be involved.

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Okay, this is evil of me... but... if you went with Fenris then, when he left, went for Anders... Fenris threatens to kill Anders if he ever breaks your heart. Well, he does, kinda, right? Shouldn't Fenris then do the "I'm gonna kill you bastard"? Or he's far too respectful to take the decision away from Hawke?

I just wonder if the end game things that are said differ at all if you were in that circumstance. Cause what Fenris normally says has all to do with the chantry and whatnots... it'd make more sense to say "you involved Hawke in your crazy plan and broke her heart..." trailing off into swearing...

I'm mean, but that'd be hilarious to see.

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Kim Shepard wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

I doubt that would work. There's no way he would EVER put a curiousity over what he views as his duty and purpose. He thinks love gets in the way of mage freedom so why would he let the fact he thinks it's interesting and wants to know more get in the way? He's too single-minded for that. In Awakening he didn't really have any purpose which is why he latched onto killing all the darkspawn who might have been someway responsible for Kristoff's death. Now he does have a greater purpose and constantly gets reminded of why things need to change.

As cliche as it may sound, my Kaya Hawke's reason for supporting the cause is love - for Anders and Justice, her family, and every mage who she feels deserves the right to live, be free, have emotions, and families of their own. Love doesn't always have to take away from supporting a cause. Justice doesn't understand that yet because he doesn't understand human emotion, but I think if he's shown enough times, the idea could start to sink in.


That is so beautifully stated... wonderful.  

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Hmm, I have three Damien Rice songs that I thought about in relation to Anders:  Volcano, Grey Room, and Cold Water. He's pretty much my go-to artist when it comes to tormented relationships - heh.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

I can actually see Anders getting annoyed at my Hawke because her support for mages is rooted deeply in wanting better for Bethany and the memory of her father instead of any grand ideals and because she can't guarantee she'd have been at all interested in the conflict if it hadn't been for the family connection. But then, I also have to wonder if it would have mattered to Anders if he hadn't been born a mage. As it stands, they both have personal reasons to be involved.

I don't think that would matter to him. That's why he's so dedicated to the cause as well, because it's personal. He would be annoyed for sure if Hawke only cared about the safety of her family and not about other mages who are going through the same struggles, or worse. As long as Hawke decides that the right thing to do is help the mages fight for freedom, they seem to be in agreement.

Now, my Kane Amell would annoy Anders and Justice to no end with his "good luck with that, but I'm staying out of it" attitude.

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DeaHamlet wrote...

I just wonder if the end game things that are said differ at all if you were in that circumstance. Cause what Fenris normally says has all to do with the chantry and whatnots... it'd make more sense to say "you involved Hawke in your crazy plan and broke her heart..." trailing off into swearing...

I'm mean, but that'd be hilarious to see.


They don't seem to, unfortunately. I just finished a game with the scenario you described and Fenris just got all rawr mage uppity and stormed off to boink Meredith or whatever they do before I slaughter them all. I was kind of hoping there would be some reference, at least to the part relationship, but nada, even though he was still wearing Hawke's crest.

Oh well, just made it easier to run my sword through him. No more magical fisting for you, elfboy! 

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leggywillow wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...
I'm not even romancing him and he gives me that.  I'm SO convinced that no matter what he totally has a crush on Hawke, whether he/she goes for him or not.  *giggles*


Yeah, I feel like it's pretty safe to assume that Anders has a thing for Hawke no matter what you do.  That's especially obvious when you romance Fenris and get some dialogue and a bit of party banter in which Anders is very obviously jealous.  XD


Put me in the "Anders has the hots for Hawke, period" camp, too. I've done two playthroughs now without romancing him, and I had to wrestle with myself to NOT flip that romance switch partly because he is so clearly into Hawke.

One romance to go, Anders, then you will get all the Hawke loving you can stand, baby.

Modifié par Sjofn, 23 mars 2011 - 09:40 .


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DeaHamlet wrote...

Okay, this is evil of me... but... if you went with Fenris then, when he left, went for Anders... Fenris threatens to kill Anders if he ever breaks your heart. Well, he does, kinda, right? Shouldn't Fenris then do the "I'm gonna kill you bastard"? Or he's far too respectful to take the decision away from Hawke?

In a way, it is possible. It's would just take a lot of metagaming. Hawke would have to side with the templars, but let Anders go so Hawke and the team can fight him, and then you'd have to make sure Fenris gets the killing blow. Not that I would ever try it. I will have a Hawke who starts out with Fenris and ends up with Anders, but Anders will live in every playthrough.

That is so beautifully stated... wonderful.

Thanks! Posted Image I'm glad you like Kaya's reasons.

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Is there any real difference between the femalehawke and malehawke romance scenes? 


You don't get the Karl dialogue with a fem!Hawke, he doesn't talk about "loving the whole person, not the body" and some of his lines later are slightly different. I also adore the M!Hawke "wanna sandwich" line. It's delivered fifty times better from M!Hawke than from fem!Hawke. My fem!Hawke sounds like she's serving High Tea in a royal palace when she says it. M!Hawke is all "Grrr, Hawke just had rough sex, Hawke hungry!"


Ahahahahahahaha oh god. I must look so demented right now, I'm sitting outside my classroom shaking and trying not to laugh out loud.

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Sjofn wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...
I'm not even romancing him and he gives me that.  I'm SO convinced that no matter what he totally has a crush on Hawke, whether he/she goes for him or not.  *giggles*


Yeah, I feel like it's pretty safe to assume that Anders has a thing for Hawke no matter what you do.  That's especially obvious when you romance Fenris and get some dialogue and a bit of party banter in which Anders is very obviously jealous.  XD


Put me in the "Anders has the hots for Hawke, period" camp, too. I've done two playthroughs now without romancing him, and I had to wrestle with myself to NOT flip that romance switch partly because he is so clearly into Hawke.

One romance to go, Anders, then you will get all the Hawke loving you can stand, baby.


Yeah, I agree about Anders being smitten by Hawke no matter what. I kinda wish he weren't since it wouldn't be so hard to romance someone else. I like that Fenris and Isabela get together and feel bad when I'm off with Fenris and he's all jealous and stuff. Poor Anders :(

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Miri1984 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

I know I am not a popular Anders fan here because I refuse to let him live but I am romancing him right now with a malehawke and I just finished the kissing scene and I have to admit, as a bisexual man I really loved the scene. I don't know if there is a big difference in the scene it self, but the dialog and how it lead up was very well done.


There's nothing wrong with not letting him live. I could never do it personally, but I've been a tragic Anders fan since Awakenings, asking me to kill him is like asking me to kill a puppy, but I agree it's a valid decision, even if he is your LI. And the kiss is FANTASTIC. 

In a lot of ways I think the m!Hawke romance is better than the fem!Hawke one, which makes me a little sad, since I'm a chick, but also means I'm going to have to make a smoking hot m!Hawke to fuel my fantasies with. :)

Is there any real difference between the femalehawke and malehawke romance scenes? 


Here's a video of someone friendmancing Anders with m!Hawke. I've never tried the f!Hawke one (mainly because I only play males), but just that Anders warns her beforehand not to get too close to him because he'll only break her heart (which doesn't happen with m!Hawke until Act 3), while he's a little happier to indulge in some early flirting with m!Hawke. Aside from a few special lines for both, there's also background about his past love that never gets mentioned with f!Hawke. It's up to you which way you prefer though.

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Kim Shepard wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

I can actually see Anders getting annoyed at my Hawke because her support for mages is rooted deeply in wanting better for Bethany and the memory of her father instead of any grand ideals and because she can't guarantee she'd have been at all interested in the conflict if it hadn't been for the family connection. But then, I also have to wonder if it would have mattered to Anders if he hadn't been born a mage. As it stands, they both have personal reasons to be involved.

I don't think that would matter to him. That's why he's so dedicated to the cause as well, because it's personal. He would be annoyed for sure if Hawke only cared about the safety of her family and not about other mages who are going through the same struggles, or worse. As long as Hawke decides that the right thing to do is help the mages fight for freedom, they seem to be in agreement.

Now, my Kane Amell would annoy Anders and Justice to no end with his "good luck with that, but I'm staying out of it" attitude.

What side Hawke's on is the most important thing, yes, but if it's more helping because 'I want my sister back you bastards!' thing than believing strongly enough that mages should have the right to be free to act on it then I think it'd annoy him at least enough to bring it up.

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Miri1984 wrote...

Somebody wrote...


Is there any real difference between the femalehawke and malehawke romance scenes? 


You don't get the Karl dialogue with a fem!Hawke, he doesn't talk about "loving the whole person, not the body" and some of his lines later are slightly different. I also adore the M!Hawke "wanna sandwich" line. It's delivered fifty times better from M!Hawke than from fem!Hawke. My fem!Hawke sounds like she's serving High Tea in a royal palace when she says it. M!Hawke is all "Grrr, Hawke just had rough sex, Hawke hungry!"


Maybe Hawke isn't interested in that kind of sandwich.

oh ho ho ho ho ho.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

What side Hawke's on is the most important thing, yes, but if it's more helping because 'I want my sister back you bastards!' thing than believing strongly enough that mages should have the right to be free to act on it then I think it'd annoy him at least enough to bring it up.

That's true. I was thinking of a Hawke who is completely dedicated to the cause because of past experience, running from the templars and never wanting another mage family to go through that (or worse, be caught by them), rather than a Hawke who's only in it for his/her family. In Kaya's playthrough, Bethany was killed by an ogre. No templar grudge there. Carver joined the templars, but she blames only him for that.

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Miri1984 wrote...

Somebody wrote...


Is there any real difference between the femalehawke and malehawke romance scenes? 


You don't get the Karl dialogue with a fem!Hawke, he doesn't talk about "loving the whole person, not the body" and some of his lines later are slightly different. I also adore the M!Hawke "wanna sandwich" line. It's delivered fifty times better from M!Hawke than from fem!Hawke. My fem!Hawke sounds like she's serving High Tea in a royal palace when she says it. M!Hawke is all "Grrr, Hawke just had rough sex, Hawke hungry!"


Ahahaha.

I always heard mHawke's sandwhich line as "Right. Ignoring the love decrleration. Did you hear anything? I didn't hear anything. Want a sandwich?"

Which the moving in line sorta ruined. I wanted my Hawke to be able to casually agree. Not "let's be married as best we can" agree.

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Kryyptehk wrote...

Put me in the "Anders has the hots for Hawke, period" camp, too. I've done two playthroughs now without romancing him, and I had to wrestle with myself to NOT flip that romance switch partly because he is so clearly into Hawke.

One romance to go, Anders, then you will get all the Haw

Yeah, I agree about Anders being smitten by Hawke no matter what. I kinda wish he weren't since it wouldn't be so hard to romance someone else. I like that Fenris and Isabela get together and feel bad when I'm off with Fenris and he's all jealous and stuff. Poor Anders :(


Yeah, my boyfriend has played a Male Hawke and a Female Hawke, romancing Merrill and/or Isabela, and he's like "Um, why does Anders love me no matter what I do?" I told him that Anders has a Hawke fetish that he should indulge for him every now and again.

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HolyJellyfish wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

Somebody wrote...


Is there any real difference between the femalehawke and malehawke romance scenes? 


You don't get the Karl dialogue with a fem!Hawke, he doesn't talk about "loving the whole person, not the body" and some of his lines later are slightly different. I also adore the M!Hawke "wanna sandwich" line. It's delivered fifty times better from M!Hawke than from fem!Hawke. My fem!Hawke sounds like she's serving High Tea in a royal palace when she says it. M!Hawke is all "Grrr, Hawke just had rough sex, Hawke hungry!"


Maybe Hawke isn't interested in that kind of sandwich.

oh ho ho ho ho ho.


He wants to make his night a Manwich night.

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Which the moving in line sorta ruined. I wanted my Hawke to be able to casually agree. Not "let's be married as best we can" agree.


YES

A MILLION TIMES YES

I picked the sammich option partly because I was like "my goofy Hawke probably thinks it's getting way too serious in here, plus dang dude, little quick to jump on the I LOVE YOU SO MUCH MWAH thing, aren't you?" and then she's all I LUFF U TIL WE DIE. I got whiplash. :(  I was cool with him moving in and stuff, I just really didn't think that line was appropriate for my LadyHawke. Hell, it's not appropriate for any of the Hawkes I've made so far. I ain't got time for sap.

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I agree. I thought the romantic obsessive lines were a bit too.... much after the first lay.

Anders is all "I WANT TO BE WITH YOU FOREVERZ"

And i wanted the option to say "Woah man... wooooaaaah. Let's relax...."

Then again, Anders had been obsessing over Hawke for three FREAKING years. If that doesn't spell crazy, I don't know what does.

... other than the Justice demon thing possessing his head. Eh, Anders is all kinds of crazy. Hawke doesn't need to be that mad.

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HolyJellyfish wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...
You don't get the Karl dialogue with a fem!Hawke, he doesn't talk about "loving the whole person, not the body" and some of his lines later are slightly different. I also adore the M!Hawke "wanna sandwich" line. It's delivered fifty times better from M!Hawke than from fem!Hawke. My fem!Hawke sounds like she's serving High Tea in a royal palace when she says it. M!Hawke is all "Grrr, Hawke just had rough sex, Hawke hungry!"


Maybe Hawke isn't interested in that kind of sandwich.

oh ho ho ho ho ho.


Antivan milk sandwich?

... oh Maker, the mental images!  They are not good.

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Re: Anders having a Hawke fetish - it really makes that "I have lain awake every night aching for you" line a bit worrying. If you don't romance him it's no wonder he blows up the Chantry. It's either that or explode from sexual repression.