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[ladyofpayne]

[cmessaz]

3 days????

Oh hai there sexy Anders. :3

[Klepz]

I wonder if anything Anders will be mentioned in the comic book coming out Wednesday? :x I doubt it, but haven't stopped holding out hope.

[Fox In The Box]

Hnng, Anders. I don't care what anyone else says; you are one sexy abomination-man

Not that there are a whole lot of abomination-men to choose from, but my point still stands.

@ FallTooDovahkiin, esper - Glad to be of service!

@Klepz - Hm, hard to say. From what I've heard of it, the plot doesn't seem connected to the whole mage-templar conflict at all, so I'm going to guess that he won't be. Not significantly, at least. I could be wrong.

Modifié par Fox In The Box, 20 février 2012 - 10:11 .

[Dunizel]

@ladyofpayne
"A Fragrance of Justice" made me rofl

I think as of now Anders can only be mentioned. It s inevitable because he set in motion great events, but I don't think we will see him much since he is dead in so many games and anyway he should be on the run. It is a bit of a shame, I would have really liked to see him have a bigger role in the "revolution", but I don't think it will be possible.

Still, I read Asunder and while there is nothing significant about Anders, it left me some other doubts about spirits and demons and abominations.

[Gyrefalcon]

@LadyofPayne: Thanks for the pics! I think I would play a Mafia game if there were more elves and Anders in it. I usually hate the whole genre after reading "The Mafia Is Not An Equal Opportunity Employer" by Nicholas Gage. Pretty horrific look inside the real Mafia. But elves and wizards in the Mafia? Sounds like Cyberpunk or Shadowrun and I can get behind that. ^-^

And I am hoping that having this thread run the longest and strongest will buy a chance for our favorite kitten-loving apostate to have a chance to survive and be a part of the rebellion in DA3. I could deal with him being a footnote at the bar or a short cut scene. But I'd adore it if he got to be Anders, leader of the Mage Revolution if he lived or Justice, leader of the Mage Revolution if he was killed. Having him be either a scary ally or a terrible foe (if playing a templar in DA3) would be awesome!!

Is anyone up for starting a "give Anders a kitten or retrieve Sir-Pounce-Alot" thread for a DLC piece (especially for April 1st giveaway)?

[Pris81]

Gyrefalcon wrote...

@LadyofPayne: Thanks for the pics! I think I would play a Mafia game if there were more elves and Anders in it. I usually hate the whole genre after reading "The Mafia Is Not An Equal Opportunity Employer" by Nicholas Gage. Pretty horrific look inside the real Mafia. But elves and wizards in the Mafia? Sounds like Cyberpunk or Shadowrun and I can get behind that. ^-^

And I am hoping that having this thread run the longest and strongest will buy a chance for our favorite kitten-loving apostate to have a chance to survive and be a part of the rebellion in DA3. I could deal with him being a footnote at the bar or a short cut scene. But I'd adore it if he got to be Anders, leader of the Mage Revolution if he lived or Justice, leader of the Mage Revolution if he was killed. Having him be either a scary ally or a terrible foe (if playing a templar in DA3) would be awesome!!

Is anyone up for starting a "give Anders a kitten or retrieve Sir-Pounce-Alot" thread for a DLC piece (especially for April 1st giveaway)?

I am.

Sorry, I've being neglecting the BSN. Blame tumblr.

[cmessaz]

I've been neglecting BSN because of the people like the ones in that Hepler support thread (tumblr too). I'm like...ugh. But I'm gonna be a good girl now and shut up. LOL.

[Gyrefalcon]

Oh my, I thought I'd see if there were any announcements about new DLC's. Instead it turns out that people have been calling and harassing Jennifer Hepler. Bioware is supporting her and taking donations for an anti-bullying group in Canada. I am grateful they are supporting her and horrified by some of the comments getting thrown up! I should just hide in here where the Anders love washes away all the hate from the other threads. *shudders*

[cmessaz]

Gyrefalcon wrote...

Oh my, I thought I'd see if there were any announcements about new DLC's. Instead it turns out that people have been calling and harassing Jennifer Hepler. Bioware is supporting her and taking donations for an anti-bullying group in Canada. I am grateful they are supporting her and horrified by some of the comments getting thrown up! I should just hide in here where the Anders love washes away all the hate from the other threads. *shudders*

Good plan lol.

[Fox In The Box]

Sigh. There is no excuse for this massive level of cowardly sadism and bigotry. It repulses me in a way I can't even describe. Acting like people is really not that difficult.

[cmessaz]

Yeah but they are SAVING THE INDUSTRY!!!!11!11! *rolls eyes* Seriously I cried at some of the things said to Hepler. Just disgusting.

And I love how people are taking the opportunity to talk about how horrible a job she did with Anders in there. I seriously...BSN has become a horrible place.

I love Anders, he's my favorite LI in any game, DAO, DA2, Skyrim...any game. Were there a few things I wish had been done differently? Sure...but still. I can't think of any game where I wouldn't have liked something done differently.

[esper]

It is sad indeed.

[Fox In The Box]

I'm just going to stop reading that stupid thread and go look at pictures of kittens and cakes while I still have a shred of hope in humanity.

[cmessaz]

Fox In The Box wrote...

I'm just going to stop reading that stupid thread and go look at pictures of kittens and cakes while I still have a shred of hope in humanity.

Yeah the McDonalds one...actually made me cry how freaking horrible.

So hey...Anders love.

[Fox In The Box]

cmessaz wrote...

Fox In The Box wrote...

I'm just going to stop reading that stupid thread and go look at pictures of kittens and cakes while I still have a shred of hope in humanity.

Yeah the McDonalds one...actually made me cry how freaking horrible.

So hey...Anders love.
-SNIP-

Totally on-topic:




by thecomfycat.

Stupid refugees eating all the cats in Darktown.

Modifié par Fox In The Box, 21 février 2012 - 11:46 .

[cmessaz]

:happy:

I love that!

[LT123]

Asunder came today, and I'm so psyched to read it.

Also, I have finally ventured onto tumblr.



It's kind of amazing. I may never go outside again. I'll just waste my life away reading Dragon Age character analyses and laughing hysterically at funny things fans post.

[cmessaz]

I honestly love the DA fandom on Tumblr. None of the crap that is on BSN anymore. Kinda like the old Alistair thread a year ago.

[Dunizel]

I've given up hope, I read what's happening and I labeled it as "disgusting". It's just sad that some trolls who think they know better (because really, they can write and code and surely can create a better videogame), thanks to internet can get so much attention and power.
Some didn't even bother to read what she actually said. And who did, well, just jumped to his twisted conclusions.
And in any case, that isn't really the way to make a critic or express your ideas. All my support to Ms. Hepler, I just hope they put all this mess behind and don't even bother to feed the trolls. Though I can understand that you might want to answer to personal offences.

And I just laugh at the people who goes "Watch a movie instead of playing videogames". Yeah, sure, because I can make decisions in a movie and make my character react in certain ways. As much as the two media are getting similar, they probably fail to see the differences.

Moar kittens in the world and in Darktown!

[LT123]

cmessaz wrote...

I honestly love the DA fandom on Tumblr. None of the crap that is on BSN anymore. Kinda like the old Alistair thread a year ago.

I found a screenshot of Anders doing the best puppy eyes ever and now I must dig through my saves, find that particular conversation, and punch the Print Screen button until I can get it myself because that's half the fun.  I'm pretty sure it's Act II, pre-Dissent (it's the creepy "drown us both in blood" line). 

Must stop looking at Persona 3 stuff on tumblr.

Modifié par LT123, 22 février 2012 - 02:16 .

[BevH]

I haven't really seen the stuff said to Ms. Hepler, but no one deserves the type of treatment that would warrent a statement of support from your bosses. Do I agree with the direction Anders was taken in DA2? No, not really. Do I love Anders character in DA2? Yes, totally! Do I wish there was more interaction with him? Absofreakinlutely! Is he my favorite DA LI? Um... *coughalistaircough*

Anyway, I posted this screenie many pages ago, but I still have to giggle when I see it:

[cmessaz]

LOL Sometimes I feel like the only one who loves what they with him. I like tragedy. I'm concerned with what the future holds for his character but...we shall see. I do have an issue with how they kinda...IDK how to explain but I felt like at the end they used him as a throw away character if that makes sense? I feel like they gave you more reason to justify the other characters when they did something bad or wrong..but not as much for Anders? IDK how to explain. I LOVE Isabela so much...but she really screws up and gets alot of people killed. But somehow it's easier to forgive her and IDK why like I don't even think twice about it. Ugh am I making any sense?

And sorry Alistair. I may have spent almost a year on a mod for you, but I love Anders more! Would probably spend 2 years on a mod for Anders with a toolset!

Modifié par cmessaz, 22 février 2012 - 03:26 .

[DAYtheELF]

Just wanted to quickly say that I Jennifer Helper.

...and I Anders, of course. We totally need that Sir Pounce-A-Lot DLC.

[Gyrefalcon]

cmessaz wrote...

LOL Sometimes I feel like the only one who loves what they with him. I like tragedy. I'm concerned with what the future holds for his character but...we shall see. I do have an issue with how they kinda...IDK how to explain but I felt like at the end they used him as a throw away character if that makes sense? I feel like they gave you more reason to justify the other characters when they did something bad or wrong..but not as much for Anders? IDK how to explain. I LOVE Isabela so much...but she really screws up and gets alot of people killed. But somehow it's easier to forgive her and IDK why like I don't even think twice about it. Ugh am I making any sense?

And sorry Alistair. I may have spent almost a year on a mod for you, but I love Anders more! Would probably spend 2 years on a mod for Anders with a toolset!

@cmessaz:  Ha ha!  I would love to see what you come up with after 2 years of effort.  ^-^

@all:  I sort of went into a long message after I finished DA2 about the issue cmessaz is bringing up here.  Did anyone else feel that Anders was made into a sacrificial goat for the storyline?  I believe some of the players who were upset about the changes between DA and DA2 were expressing some of this concern.

Myself, I saw it as taking some of the power away from the PC.  With Isabella, you have the choice of helping her even if she may try to screw with you for it.  With Anders, you don't get to know what he is doing, he takes action independent of the PC.  I really think this is what makes the game great and really upset people. 

The player usually has the chance to choose a side or to determine who lives or who dies across the board.  Sometimes you can't stop the events (i.e. Grace and Thrask) but you are in the thick of it.  But Anders has a life outside of the PC. 

Thinking about it, his plot is SUPPOSED to echo Isabella's really.  Isabella announces she needs your help to get the book.  She betrays you.  A lot of people die in the city because of her actions.  You have to save the city.

Anders announces he needs your help.  He betrays you.  A lot of people die in the city because of his actions.  You have to save the city.

Yet there is one supreme difference:  we don't know exactly what Anders is after.  Caught up in the writing and voice acting (or even the usual expectations from playing similar games), it is possible to utterly miss or to dismiss the clues being laid out about Anders plan.  Otherwise, the PC expects it to be a whimper not a bang, or that they will get to difuse things or pull the trigger.  But no! 

Not only does Anders get to act w/o the player's input, the player can have several storylines truncated.  All your plans go to waste.  It is like a car crash on the way to a party or interview.  Life is interrupted in a shocking way, likewise, Anders pre-emptive act interrupts the game before completion if the player is not using outside information and isn't supremely lucky.

It elevates the game, it elevates the power other characters are allowed to have in "your story".  But it can indeed feel like Anders was sacrificed to the story.  But David Gaider mentioned in his writing do's and don't's that to spare the characters is to deny them immortality.  If the game did not run as it had, would there be such extreme devotion or hatred for Anders character?

Now we have discussion to go with the excellent brain-bleach pics people have been putting up.  (Many thanks to all of you helping to cleanse out the ick from the not-this-thread.)

And keep being the awesome people you are!  You make the forums fun again!