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[MageTarot]

motomotogirl wrote...

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Sorry for the terrible quality  Old Panasonic TV is from 2003 and the camera is a couple years old, too.

I like it! The texture reminds me of a medieval tapestry.


(Friendship +20)  

Modifié par MageTarot, 25 février 2012 - 05:36 .

[CuriousArtemis]

MageTarot wrote...

motomotogirl wrote...

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Sorry for the terrible quality  Old Panasonic TV is from 2003 and the camera is a couple years old, too.

I like it! The texture reminds me of a medieval tapestry.


(Friendship +20)  

It does, doesn't it xD

I wish the camera hadn't made it so grainy  They really were both smiling so sweetly at each other ... you know it had to be good if I actually decided to hunt for my old camera and snap a pic xD I must have tried about a dozen times, too, messing with the lighting on the game and changing my flash, etc.  Le sigh.

[Fox In The Box]

I feel your pain, motomo. As a console player, I'll sooner see world peace than a good screenshot of my games with a camera. Ah, well, c'est la vie.

In Alistair's defence, he is a very young man. He just needs someone to push him in the right direction, is all. I do wish he'd consider his shaving habits, though, and let his stubble grow all across his jawline instead of just confining it to a small space on his chin.

Modifié par Fox In The Box, 26 février 2012 - 03:56 .

[wendolen]

It seems that Justice likes my Hawke better than he does Anders.

Modifié par wendolen, 26 février 2012 - 08:34 .

[esper]

Motomo, such is the pain of playing on consoles... I so wish that I could show some screen shots of my Hawke and Anders, but alas....

[Fox In The Box]

wendolen wrote...

-SNIP-

It seems that Justice likes my Hawke better than he does Anders.

Or maybe he's just in it for the hat. That's one funky piece of headwear right there.

Modifié par Fox In The Box, 26 février 2012 - 06:11 .

[CuriousArtemis]

Fox In The Box wrote...

Or maybe he's just in it for the hat. That's one funky piece of headwear, right there.

I was gonna say...!!!  

Justice: I have to have it, Anders. It's just to die for.
Anders: I'm NOT stealing Hawke's hat just so you can satisfy some sort of hat fetish!
Justice: FINE!  *zooms over to Hawke's body* Ahhhh... I LOOK SO FABULOUS!!

[ladyofpayne]

[smallwhippet]

I'm a complete forum novice but I can't resist the temptation any longer.
I'm SO relieved to find that I'm not alone in having found Anders utterly lovely. He was adorable in Awakenings, and, as I mostly travelled with him and Justice, I can't understand how people can complain that his character development was unexpected: all the groundwork was there in their conversations.
The way in which he is presented in DA2 feels utterly plausible and I found his inner struggles deeply affecting. The way in which he has been written seems to suggest that the writers have a great affection for him and they make it very hard not to fall for him.....and the notion that he might not have a chance to be redeemed particularly cruel.
I totally agree with an earlier post about feeling as if I'd been kicked by a horse after the denouement: heart-broken pretty much covers it. As a relative newcomer to RPG (and gaming generally), I never expected to find such psychological depth in a game, or to be forced to make decisions which feel so shattering and have left me seeing world-conflicts and contemporary injustices through a DA prism. Am I taking this too seriously?!
I would be so grateful for some DLC or ANYTHING which helps me get closure!
I NEED MORE ANDERS!

[Deviant Ingredient]

Boy, I haven't been on here in awhile. I've been away playing Mass Effect 2 and getting pumped for 3. Plus I was feeding my Garrus addiction. Anywhoo, I think it's awful what those jerks were doing to Ms. Hepler simply because they didn't like certain aspects of the game. I'm glad to find people who support her and her writing. Anders is a simply stunning character filled with enough complexities that makes us think of him as human.

[Fox In The Box]

smallwhippet wrote...

I'm a complete forum novice but I can't resist the temptation any longer.
I'm SO relieved to find that I'm not alone in having found Anders utterly lovely. He was adorable in Awakenings, and, as I mostly travelled with him and Justice, I can't understand how people can complain that his character development was unexpected: all the groundwork was there in their conversations.
The way in which he is presented in DA2 feels utterly plausible and I found his inner struggles deeply affecting. The way in which he has been written seems to suggest that the writers have a great affection for him and they make it very hard not to fall for him.....and the notion that he might not have a chance to be redeemed particularly cruel.
I totally agree with an earlier post about feeling as if I'd been kicked by a horse after the denouement: heart-broken pretty much covers it. As a relative newcomer to RPG (and gaming generally), I never expected to find such psychological depth in a game, or to be forced to make decisions which feel so shattering and have left me seeing world-conflicts and contemporary injustices through a DA prism. Am I taking this too seriously?!
I would be so grateful for some DLC or ANYTHING which helps me get closure!
I NEED MORE ANDERS!

Hey, welcome to the forums, smallwhippet!

I know what you mean and I also found Anders to be a very sympathetic character, though others might not agree. And no, you are definitely not taking it too seriously - this thread is over 2000 pages long filled with discussions about this character that I'm pretty sure didn't just involve kittens and squee.

If you need more Anders there are a couple of good Anders fanfictions that I know of. If you're into that sort of thing.

[wendolen]

[quote]Fox In The Box wrote...

[quoteIf you need more Anders there are a couple of good Anders fanfictions that I know of. If you're into that sort of thing.[/quote]

Speaking of fanfiction, I am still hoping for a link to the complete "Caring is Creepy" fanfic, and Google is still no help with it!

(I don't expect that you have it, Fox In The Box, I'm just hoping that if one of the old regulars comes back, they won't skim past this request. <3)

[Fox In The Box]

wendolen wrote...


Speaking of fanfiction, I am still hoping for a link to the complete "Caring is Creepy" fanfic, and Google is still no help with it!

(I don't expect that you have it, Fox In The Box, I'm just hoping that if one of the old regulars comes back, they won't skim past this request. <3)

Hmmm. I found a fanfic by the same name on this tumblr page and this tumblr page. Is that what you were looking for?

[Rosendahl]

Hello Anders thread! I'm an unseen stalker of this thread for months, and firstly now I got myself to post. Been through every single page of this thread, and I've had a lot of good laughs throughout it and as well a lot of enlightenment of the differences of opinions towards Anders. Myself I've had a massive fandom for him and I'm glad to see us Anders appreciaters seem to have a lot in common.

So please, Anders Thread, accept this peace offering!

[Gyrefalcon]

Hi Rosendahl! I have only gotten to the 400's myself on the thread but there have been some pretty funny bits in it I must agree. Yeah, the people here are nice, supportive, and keep the place fun. Jump on in, the water is warm!

[Cantina]

Anders in DA: A was fun-a bit like Allistar-but fun nonetheless.


The problem I have with Anders in DA 2 is the whole
Anders/Justice merger; to me it does not make sense. In my game Justice was
left at the Keep, while I took Anders with me to defend the city. According to
what the lore in the game says, once a spirit was inside a host and then killed
the spirit would return to the Fade or die completely. Since Justice was “killed”
at the Keep, I am having a hard time understanding this whole “jump in my body”
plot from Anders.


I also find it hard to understand why Anders would agree to
such a thing, along with Justice even brining an idea up in the first place.
Furthermore Anders in DA: A was not against the ideas of the Chantry, he just
wanted freedom but considered it suicide to do anything about it and choose to
mind his business. I am also having a hard time seeing Anders being that stupid
to tell a creature from the Fade to merge with him; seems completely out of
character.  My assumption is Justice has many
fans and it was the writer’s way of keeping him in the game.


It would have been nice to have a somewhat normal
relationship in the game.  The other
companions do very little for me in the way of romance.  I would have been fine with the merger if the
plot holes were explained and there was a quest in the game to separate both
Anders and Justice.  It seems completely
out of Anders character to ignore what happened with the girl in the Gallows
and then go on as if nothing happened. At this point, I would have assumed a
quest to separate them would have popped up, but it never did and my first play
through made me grit my teeth and shake my head.


I don’t care for the fact that during the game play not
once does Anders show appreciation for what you have done to Mage’s-well he
does sort of. Take for example Feynriel, if you choose to allow him to go to
the Dalish, it would have been nice to get a quest to speak to Anders about
what happened. Going beyond that you have a quest you can get to frame a
templar, would have been an interesting conversation to have with Anders,
showing him the letter you received once it is complete led.  My point being that your support for the Mage’s
should at least play into more than just a friendship bar.


Anders in DA2 is not bad, he is not good either, and he is
just OK. I love his passion for freeing the mages, but writing him to talk
about it constantly is over doing it. Even during the romance scenes, it would
have been nice to show that Anders can talk about other things without having
to bring up mages in every topic.


I am not a fan of this “talk to companions when you get a
quest.” I liked how in Dragon Age: Origins, you walk up to a companion and
speak to them about their past, get to know them. If you are in a romance, get
a kiss or go to bed with them.  Romance
in DA 2 is more like a friendship with benefits.  The first kiss scene with Anders was sad and
pathetic. For the first part of the kiss, you got to see the back of his head, and
then caught a glimpse of the kiss when he was pulling away. Then your first
night with Anders, to me seemed, well, rather G rated, not a lot of passion,
considering he has wanted your character for three years.


Afterwards when you decide to let Anders move in with you,
he does not move in until Act 3. In addition, in Act 3 you can give him a key
to the house cellar. It would make more sense either not to give him the key at
all, or give it to him at some point in Act 1. IF you give Anders a gift in Act 2, he says "Thank you. I hope to return one as meaning full to you one day." I would have liked the option, "Well, come over tonight and you can." Or something to that effect.



I always side with the Mage’s and save Anders. Problem I
have with the final conversation; it is very flat and lacks depth. If you
choose to stay with him, a passionate kiss before you go off to battle would
have been nice, but he just speaks to you as if you are just a friend.


I would have liked to get to know Anders more and have that
feeling we are in a relationship. Would have been nice to scale things up and
in Act 3 have the opportunity to marry your romance option-but that is my
opinion.


At any rate, each time I have played this game, I always
side with the mage has and allow Anders to live. I believe what he did to the
Chantry was the right choice. However, there are those who do not agree with
what he did.  The option to stop him
completely would have been nice. The war between the Circle and Mage’s could
have progressed but not have the same reasons for it starting or the outcome.


Anders in DA 2 is OK, he could have better and had more
depth-especially if you’re in a romance with him. It becomes annoying sometimes
his constant need to bring up “I’ll hurt you.” If you choose to be with him, I
think that line should have been dropped and discarded. Why allow a character
to romance someone if you are going to keep drilling the same line at him or
her repeatedly. Anders in DA 2 just seems like a different character all
together and sometimes I have hard time excepting he is the same Anders from
DA:A.

I really wish the writers for DA 3 would continue the story
of Hawke (and if they romanced someone).  Starting a war and then having a different protagonist
for the next game seems, well silly. That would be like starting the war with
the Blight and stopping the story half way through and bring in someone else to
finish the task. A more direct example, read the first Harry Potter book. Harry
ends up at war with Voldemort, but the next book brings him a completely different
character and so on. I personally would have loved to load up Dragon Age 3 and
have Hawke and Anders continue the war with freeing mages.

I really wish Anders was better in DA:2 and not so heavily
depressed and paranoid. The way he plays out makes me rather sad and misses the
care free, smart ass from DA A. I appreciate the writers making the characters
seem real but sometimes, well, you can go too far and just make the character
as if they were a whole new character and not someone your remember.

[CuriousArtemis]

Alexa_ wrote...

I really hope they bring him back somehow in DA3 or at least in a DLC ... I would buy it in a heartbeat! <3

I feel it's entirely likely that Anders will make some sort of appearance in DA3 (Maker, let it be so!!).  Obviously, if you don't kill him, he'll still be around.  But even if Hawke "kills" him ... well, it's not as if s/he makes sure the job is done properly, right?  Just a little shank to the back, and Anders falls over.  Yes, he does appear to die.  But also let's keep in mind that the man has an all-powerful SPIRIT OF JUSTICE living inside him.  Why do I think that Justice would not let Anders die so easily and so flimsily.  Hello, Wynne, anyone?!  The woman is practically at death's door (so she says), and it's a spirit/demon who is keeping her alive.

So I think we will definitely see our beloved apostate in DA3; if nothing, he should at least make a cameo appearance!  Preferably with either my Xander Hawke or Lachlan Hawke at his side. <3

[Koire]

Given this

TUK: "Can I ask, what effect if any Anders being merged with Justice is going to have on his Calling?"

DG: "Uh...interesting. I'm getting some...okay, it's gone now, I was hearing a mental voice there, it was weird. [laughter] There were some plans to address that but in the end it became very complicated. I think there are a couple possibilities. One is that the spirit within Anders can affect the level of his corruption, so it may delay or remove the necessity for his Calling altogether. Either that or at some point the corruption within Anders is going to corrupt the spirit. I think those are the two most likely outcomes. I'm not going to say which of those we prefer, because Anders can survive DA2 so therefore there's a possibility that we may need him in the future."

it is not unlikely indeed. It is from the David Gaider's interview he gave in Jan if you wonder.

And, well, hi all)

Modifié par Koire, 02 mars 2012 - 09:23 .

[Koire]

I doubt he survived if you stabbed him. In case of Rolan & Co he was effectively an abomination with Justice in control, hence such powers. But in the end of DA2 he simply wants to die and makes no attempt to defend himself, so...

Besides, David Gaider said some time ago that for those who killed Anders he is definitely dead. I hope he sticks to his word.

[Koire]

Alexa_, I've just posted that quote above some minutes ago, so you may not bother to repeat it )
I think he means that Anders is alive for those who did not kill him, not for everybody.

Modifié par Koire, 02 mars 2012 - 10:32 .