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[wendolen]

esper wrote...

wendolen wrote...

Another thought re: templars going rogue -- where are they going to get their lyrium? (Are Seekers also hooked on lyrium? Never made clear, I believe, but it seems likely.)
Seems like Justinia might get a lot of regretful rogue templars coming back once the DTs set in. Unless Lambert planned it so far in advance that he had stores/another source for them? (Actually, given the scene where he supplies Ser Evangeline for the journey, maybe he does.)

Lyrium smugglers of course. There are a lot of lyrium smugglers already.

Able to provide in the quantity that would be needed if a big chunk of the order suddenly needed to service all their needs through them? Perhaps... but I doubt *that* much quantity makes it out of Orzammar on the sly. I think Lambert would have had to coordinate that well in advance, which brings me to another point not made clear in the epilogue to Asunder: is he rejecting Chantry authority in every matter, or simply saying that his people no longer work directly for the Divine?

[esper]

wendolen wrote...

esper wrote...

wendolen wrote...

Another thought re: templars going rogue -- where are they going to get their lyrium? (Are Seekers also hooked on lyrium? Never made clear, I believe, but it seems likely.)
Seems like Justinia might get a lot of regretful rogue templars coming back once the DTs set in. Unless Lambert planned it so far in advance that he had stores/another source for them? (Actually, given the scene where he supplies Ser Evangeline for the journey, maybe he does.)

Lyrium smugglers of course. There are a lot of lyrium smugglers already.

Able to provide in the quantity that would be needed if a big chunk of the order suddenly needed to service all their needs through them? Perhaps... but I doubt *that* much quantity makes it out of Orzammar on the sly. I think Lambert would have had to coordinate that well in advance, which brings me to another point not made clear in the epilogue to Asunder: is he rejecting Chantry authority in every matter, or simply saying that his people no longer work directly for the Divine?

I am pretty sure that Orzommar will sell to whoever willing to buy, and that the smugglers can get the quilaity they want if there are buyers.
Lyrium smuggling is already a lucrative busniness. As for how the templar rebellion works. We'll have to see.

[Alessa]

Alexa_ wrote...

Awakening Anders <3 ... I fear we will never see him again ...

Uuuuhh, how cute and sexy he's looking!!!!!! 

Poor boy, what have they done to you in DA2!!!!!

[Alessa]

Alexa_ wrote...

Something else ... seems like déjà vu ...

Really! Fascinating! I never noticed, but it's true! Seems to be more symbolism in some scenes than one expects!

[Alessa]

Cantina wrote...

Alexa_ wrote...

@Cantina

Ooohh, yes! .... I totally agree with all that! I had the same feelings about Anders
and what the writers did to him in order to fit him to the storyline. That was no
longer Anders ... but only a character named so ... it hurts thinking about it!

I think you hit the nail on the head.

I have seen many writers (even my own mother) fall into the pit fall of having a story but in order to do the story the character from a previous book, game whatever has to be changed in order to achieve the goal.

In my opinion the writers wanted a mage/templar/chantry war. They knew there was a huge fan base for the character Anders and he was not happy with the system.

So in order to achieve this goal: Will ignore what happened to the characters at the end of Awakening, give some b.s. reason as to how Justice and Anders merged. Will also over-shadow the fact that Anders was not stupid and probably would not accept Justice's offer. But hey, will make up another b.s.reason for that too.

Leave a lot plot holes, have Anders go from being a happy go lucky guy, to a depressed teenager that hates everything. On the plus side people will over look these things because you can romance him now. BUT the romance is not really a romance since, he talks endlessly of mages in that too. OH! And since the romance in Origins was romantic, we need to cut that out. I mean we cannot give fans a true romance of Anders. And to complete this character, he no longer has his cat Ser Pounce-Alot. We can say the Wardens made him too soft, he gives it to a friend, but then leaves the order. That makes sense, right?

Fans will be happy, right? Right?



In all seriousness, Anders in DA2 did not make me happy, it made me depressed. Thanks Bioware!

You are so right! I was really horrified what the writers did to this wonderful character! The merge with justice was not needed at all, because he had enough anger within himself to do what he did in DA2 ... otherwise Justice wouldn't even had turned into Vengeance!I'm feeling so sorry for this poor guy!

[Cantina]

esper wrote..

 I never laugh at death. I think that Anders made the necessary deciosion and blewing the chantry up was needed, but to celebrate their deaths is wrong. It is sad they died. Sad but necessary.

I'm not shaking a bottle of champan and screaming my head off about it. I have a hard time feeling sorry for imaginary characters who I never met in the game. I know the diffrence between fantasy and real life actions. My actions in game were based off of how I wanted my character to be, not how I am.

As Flemth said "Without and end there can be no peace."

[Cantina]

Alessa-00 wrote...

Alexa_ wrote...

Something else ... seems like déjà vu ...

Really! Fascinating! I never noticed, but it's true! Seems to be more symbolism in some scenes than one expects!

At least they left in Ander's adorable smirky smile.

Modifié par Cantina, 12 mars 2012 - 11:45 .

[Alessa]

Cantina wrote...

Alessa-00 wrote...

Alexa_ wrote...

Something else ... seems like déjà vu ...

Really! Fascinating! I never noticed, but it's true! Seems to be more symbolism in some scenes than one expects!

At least they left in Ander's adorable smirky smile.

<3<3 ... ADORABLE!!! That's true! Uuuuhh, I'm melting away when he's smiling like this!!! :wub:

[esper]

Cantina wrote...

esper wrote..

 I never laugh at death. I think that Anders made the necessary deciosion and blewing the chantry up was needed, but to celebrate their deaths is wrong. It is sad they died. Sad but necessary.

I'm not shaking a bottle of champan and screaming my head off about it. I have a hard time feeling sorry for imaginary characters who I never met in the game. I know the diffrence between fantasy and real life actions. My actions in game were based off of how I wanted my character to be, not how I am.

As Flemth said "Without and end there can be no peace."

Oh, I am not saying I don't agree with Anders. (I do). And my Hawke certainly do too, but there sometimes is a hate for the pixel characthers in this forum that makes me go. Just see the recently Merrill needs to die thread or the various. Mwhaaa, I killed X-characther. Or the I laughed when that person died. Those reactions I just don't understand (And notice there is a difference between saying I laughed and my Hawke laughed).


 

[Gyrefalcon]

Hmm, it is coming up on April 1st. Are we going to create a thread begging for a kitten downloadable content gift for Anders? They did Feastday gifts in DA: O. Why not a few extra gifts for this one? You really shouldn't take away a man's cat! ^-^


Edit:  I keep getting confused when I see the thread now because it shortens to "I've always hated...rum".  It's because it ends with forum.  But I keep winding up with an image of Anders doing the Jack Sparrow hair style.  XD

Modifié par Gyrefalcon, 13 mars 2012 - 11:07 .

[Cantina]

esper wrote...

Cantina wrote...

esper wrote..

 I never laugh at death. I think that Anders made the necessary deciosion and blewing the chantry up was needed, but to celebrate their deaths is wrong. It is sad they died. Sad but necessary.

I'm not shaking a bottle of champan and screaming my head off about it. I have a hard time feeling sorry for imaginary characters who I never met in the game. I know the diffrence between fantasy and real life actions. My actions in game were based off of how I wanted my character to be, not how I am.

As Flemth said "Without and end there can be no peace."

Oh, I am not saying I don't agree with Anders. (I do). And my Hawke certainly do too, but there sometimes is a hate for the pixel characthers in this forum that makes me go. Just see the recently Merrill needs to die thread or the various. Mwhaaa, I killed X-characther. Or the I laughed when that person died. Those reactions I just don't understand (And notice there is a difference between saying I laughed and my Hawke laughed).

Oh I agree with how Merill needs to die, but thats not for this topic.

Bottom line is, I am a very odd person and I find humor in the strangest things.

Gyrefalcon wrote...

Hmm, it is coming up on April 1st.
Are we going to create a thread begging for a kitten downloadable
content gift for Anders? They did Feastday gifts in DA: O. Why not a
few extra gifts for this one? You really shouldn't take away a man's
cat! ^-^


Edit:  I keep getting confused when I see the
thread now because it shortens to "I've always hated...rum".  It's
because it ends with forum.  But I keep winding up with an image of
Anders doing the Jack Sparrow hair style.  XD

Hell, I'd settle for a download that made the sex scene with Anders and Hawke, be a little more steamy. I'd even sell my soul to see him in his small clothes.....or nothing at all.

And the writers should have added in a kiss (when you side on the mages)....everytime I play the game and get this part, I want to punch a wall. Bah!

 

Modifié par Cantina, 13 mars 2012 - 01:12 .

[Cantina]

double post again-damnit

Modifié par Cantina, 13 mars 2012 - 01:10 .

[Alessa]

Cantina wrote...

Hell, I'd settle for a download that made the sex scene with Anders and Hawke, be a little more steamy. I'd even sell my soul to see him in his small clothes.....or nothing at all.

And
the writers should have added in a kiss (when you side on the
mages)....everytime I play the game and get this part, I want to punch a
wall. Bah! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

Me too!!!!!

My soul is yours, Bioware, if you give us this love scene with
Anders, wearing not more than his shorts ... or even nothing at all! 

Modifié par Alessa-00, 13 mars 2012 - 03:31 .

[Alessa]

Do you think, Bioware is going to bring back Anders someday ... maybe for an expansion or a dlc ... or at least for a cameo in DA3?

Modifié par Alessa-00, 14 mars 2012 - 05:36 .

[ladyofpayne]

Cameo I think. And what else It can be? In DA 2 many gamers Anders run away with Hawke.

[Alessa]

ladyofpayne wrote...

Cameo I think. And what else It can be? In DA 2 many gamers Anders run away with Hawke.

Some dlc would make sense, because there are so many open questions about him:

Will he ever be seperated from Justice?
If so, ... how?
If not, ... will Justice take over to entirely control him?
Or can Anders manage to retain control?
Where is he going to after Kirkwall?
Will he continue fighting for the mages and fight with them in the revolution he started?
What about his Calling?
Will he end as tainted wreck down at the Deep Roads?
Or will he be freed of the necessity of the Calling due to the influence of Justice?
....... just for example

[esper]

Alessa-00 wrote...

ladyofpayne wrote...

Cameo I think. And what else It can be? In DA 2 many gamers Anders run away with Hawke.

Some dlc would make sense, because there are so many open questions about him:

Will he ever be seperated from Justice?
If so, ... how?
If not, ... will Justice take over to entirely control him?
Or can Anders manage to retain control?
Where is he going to after Kirkwall?
Will he continue fighting for the mages and fight with them in the revolution he started?
What about his Calling?
Will he end as tainted wreck down at the Deep Roads?
Or will he be freed of the necessity of the Calling due to the influence of Justice?
....... just for example

Personally I think the whole Justice take over busniness depend on friendship or rivalry. I just don't see why Justice should take over a friendshipped Anders. They agree on the method/the goals/ and that they are one.

[smallwhippet]

Agree. Couldn't bear it if he became just a footnote in the next game or a passing reference, like in 'Asunder'. *sob*

[Cantina]

Alessa-00 wrote...

ladyofpayne wrote...

Cameo I think. And what else It can be? In DA 2 many gamers Anders run away with Hawke.

Some dlc would make sense, because there are so many open questions about him:

Will he ever be seperated from Justice?
If so, ... how?
If not, ... will Justice take over to entirely control him?
Or can Anders manage to retain control?
Where is he going to after Kirkwall?
Will he continue fighting for the mages and fight with them in the revolution he started?
What about his Calling?
Will he end as tainted wreck down at the Deep Roads?
Or will he be freed of the necessity of the Calling due to the influence of Justice?
....... just for example

From what I heard the writers are introducing a new protaginist for the third installment. In my opinion I am not exactly thirlled with this idea. The first game pretty much tied up the Warden's story (along with the DLCs). In the second game, it ends when the war has just broken out. I think the writers could have gone the rotue and continued the story of Hawke. I dunno, does not seem right to end a game at the start of the war and all your character does is vanish. Would be nice to see what happens to Hawke and Anders during this war. Just think (for example) if the Harry Potter books, the war breaks out, but for the final book a new main character comes in and "finishes" what was started.

It would be nice to see Ander's get another chance at a full life. IF I was writting him, I would allow Ander's to be free of his Calling-thus having Jusitce inside him has removed the taint completely.  Then introduce Feneryal as a means to help remove Justice from Anders completely. Granted Anders will not be as he was, but, it would be a nice route to go.

And for pete's sake if your character in DA2 does run off with Anders, let them be married by now. I dunno found it a bit odd in the game, Anders and my character (yours) were together for 3 years and not married. Would have been sweet to have that happen in the game, thus making the end game choice a bit harder-for some people.

Modifié par Cantina, 14 mars 2012 - 05:51 .

[Koire]

I think in-game same-sex marriage would arouse too much controversy. Lack of it if f!Hawke were given the option would be even worse. So I wouldn't count on it, really.

Modifié par Koire, 14 mars 2012 - 10:16 .

[Cantina]

Koire wrote...

I think in-game same-sex marriage would arouse too much controversy. Lack of it if f!Hawke were given the option would be even worse. So I wouldn't count on it, really.

You do realize there is a simple soultion to that. Leave same sex marriages out.

Besides, Skyrim has same sex marriages and I have yet to hear people pissed off about it and those that are, are in a small group.

If gaming companies are too worried about controversary, they should just shut the business down. No matter what you choose to do, someone will be pissed about what you did. Cannot please everyone and those that are happy are the ones the company is counting on to buy their games.

Modifié par Cantina, 15 mars 2012 - 01:21 .

[Alessa]

Koire wrote...

I think in-game same-sex marriage would arouse too much controversy. Lack of it if f!Hawke were given the option would be even worse. So I wouldn't count on it, really.

Well, they already made the world of Dragon Age turn suddenly bi ... I felt it kind of strange and irritating that in DA2 all the romance options were bi ...

If they would allow same-sex marriage in the already bi world of Dragon Age ... who should be bothered about it?

I would have preferred an option in the game settings to chose, whether I wanted my romance options to be same-sex or bi or straight!

Modifié par Alessa-00, 15 mars 2012 - 11:15 .