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[berelinde]

That cartoon is adorable... but does anybody else find it strange that a pedomorphic depiction would have razor stubble? Just me?

[Naqey]

Maybe strange, yes. But then, would it really be Anders without the razor stubble, that "I'm so busy writing my manifest, I don't have time for a good shave"-look? I adore even that in him.


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Modifié par Naqey, 20 juillet 2012 - 08:37 .

[smallwhippet]

Staarbux wrote...



From Tarisha on DA

Love this (incongruous stubble notwithstanding...)! 
Saw it somewhere else a while ago but it didn't have a link, so I was delighted to be able to pass this on to my son (ardent Big Bang Theory fan), who thought it was hilarious.
Maker, Noooo!

[PizzaThe Hutt]

I love his stuble :3

[Renmiri1]

lol.. my Hawke got the blue eyes bug now and romanced Anders, so I heacanon justice likes to "visit" sometimes

[cowoline]

LOL! Didn't knew sleeping with fadespirits could transmit diseases? Could you imagine how the chantry would react?

[Renmiri1]

Made a youtube with all fem Hawke friendship romance. There is one with rivalry but not friendship


Not sure if 3rd act is too rushed. I think I need to act a bit more reason for Anders to do what he did

[Dwarva]

I've just discovered the DA Confessions Tumblr and am properly hooked.

My favourite one so far was someone saying they were glad they romanced Anders on their first playthroughs with no spoilers because it really made the decision about his fate, very poignant. I've never considered that before but it's so true. It made for such a shocking moment that I'm not sure I'd have felt had I not romanced him...

[berelinde]

I've tried reading the DA Confessions, but I've given it up for my health. Too many blood pressure spikes.

[Dwarva]

From DA Confessions

OH GOD. I can't unsee it!!

Modifié par Staarbux, 26 juillet 2012 - 11:20 .

[berelinde]

Give him a better barber (and less clownish ears) and he wouldn't look that bad.

[Renmiri1]

Nevar!!!

[SurelyForth]

Replaying DA2, so I have to re-accept the fact that, even after all this time, Anders' face, and the emotions it conveys, turns my heart inside out and makes me want to hug my computer monitor.

[blueumi]

Anders needs to be in dragon age 3 even if it's just once and what I would love is sebastian would be about to kill the best mage of all time and have the new hero have the chance to save Anders

that way you could take sides with mages or templars by sideing with Anders which is a no brainer for me
or doing the worst thing ever going with the most stuck up hypocrit in the game sebastian and help those nasty nasty templars Alistar excluded he still awsome

[Dwarva]

I don't think people would go for that though. Lots of people support the mages but not what Anders did. So by killing Anders it would be an auto 'templar support' move which wouldn't sit well with a lot of people. Myself included. I've played as a mage who kills Anders because that particular Hawke had romanced him and couldn't believe he betrayed her and put his own desires above what may have been best for all the other mages. :shrug:

[Renmiri1]

Was it his own desires ? Or Vengeance ?

In my 5 playthroughs I have not killed him. Even feeling betrayed, my Hawke needs him to help protect the mages from Meredith. And she can not bring herself to kill him.

Is funny how a lot of people who play GTA or Assassins Creed want to judge Anders. Video game actions are not RL. He did what he thought would free his people. Just like Altair or Enzo do in Assassins Creed.

[Melca36]

Staarbux wrote...

I don't think people would go for that though. Lots of people support the mages but not what Anders did. So by killing Anders it would be an auto 'templar support' move which wouldn't sit well with a lot of people. Myself included. I've played as a mage who kills Anders because that particular Hawke had romanced him and couldn't believe he betrayed her and put his own desires above what may have been best for all the other mages. :shrug:

I bet more people kept him alive than we know.  And if one side of the fandom did keep him alive, he deserves a brief cameo.

[Melca36]

And this smirk is fantastic during Avelines quest...

[Dwarva]

Melca36 wrote...

Staarbux wrote...

I don't think people would go for that though. Lots of people support the mages but not what Anders did. So by killing Anders it would be an auto 'templar support' move which wouldn't sit well with a lot of people. Myself included. I've played as a mage who kills Anders because that particular Hawke had romanced him and couldn't believe he betrayed her and put his own desires above what may have been best for all the other mages. :shrug:

I bet more people kept him alive than we know.  And if one side of the fandom did keep him alive, he deserves a brief cameo.

I wasn't saying he shouldn't have a cameo. I hope he does. I just don't think it could be done in the way the previous poster suggested without alienating a lot of the fanbase.

[berelinde]

Killing Anders is a definitely an option, but I'd say you've got the wrong end of the stick. Your character may feel betrayed. It's your character. Only you know what she's feeling. But Anders was not put his desires above what may have been best for other mages. Had he given in to his own desires, he would have left Kirkwall with Hawke and lived in a cave somewhere, but he didn't because he knew that it was only a matter of time before Kirkwall's Circle was annulled. He expected to die. He recognized it as a necessity.

Kirkwall's Circle was doomed. Meredith had written to the Divine for authorization for the Rite of Annulment. Considering that the Divine sent Leliana to Kirkwall to warn Elthina to get out before the Exalted March arrived, there is no reason to suspect that the Rite would not have been granted. Why would she elect to spare a few hundred mages when she planned to raze an entire city, mages and non-mages alike? By acting when and how he did, Anders enabled a few mages to escape the slaughter. Not all of them, but far, far more than would have been spared in an Annulment or an Exalted March. He also spared the citizens of Kirkwall from said Exalted March. The Divine had her hands too full of rebelling mages to worry about butchering a few bakers and sail-makers. Anders actions may have been foolish and he may not have anticipated the breadth and depth of what followed, but he was *not* acting out of anything roughly approximating selfishness. He surrendered his own life so others could live.

Maybe your mage Hawke had a different idea of how things should have been done, and Anders was definitely guilty of putting his cause ahead of her wishes, but he told her at the outset that he would break her heart. And he didn't do it out of selfishness.

[berelinde]

In other news, Hey look! It's Surely Forth!

[Dwarva]

berelinde wrote...

Killing Anders is a definitely an option, but I'd say you've got the wrong end of the stick. Your character may feel betrayed. It's your character. Only you know what she's feeling. But Anders was not put his desires above what may have been best for other mages. Had he given in to his own desires, he would have left Kirkwall with Hawke and lived in a cave somewhere, but he didn't because he knew that it was only a matter of time before Kirkwall's Circle was annulled. He expected to die. He recognized it as a necessity.

Kirkwall's Circle was doomed. Meredith had written to the Divine for authorization for the Rite of Annulment. Considering that the Divine sent Leliana to Kirkwall to warn Elthina to get out before the Exalted March arrived, there is no reason to suspect that the Rite would not have been granted. Why would she elect to spare a few hundred mages when she planned to raze an entire city, mages and non-mages alike? By acting when and how he did, Anders enabled a few mages to escape the slaughter. Not all of them, but far, far more than would have been spared in an Annulment or an Exalted March. He also spared the citizens of Kirkwall from said Exalted March. The Divine had her hands too full of rebelling mages to worry about butchering a few bakers and sail-makers. Anders actions may have been foolish and he may not have anticipated the breadth and depth of what followed, but he was *not* acting out of anything roughly approximating selfishness. He surrendered his own life so others could live.

Maybe your mage Hawke had a different idea of how things should have been done, and Anders was definitely guilty of putting his cause ahead of her wishes, but he told her at the outset that he would break her heart. And he didn't do it out of selfishness.

I know. But it didn't stop my Hawke being peeved. I've had many Hawkes who ran away right alongside Anders and were totally in agreement with his beliefs. It's not what I believe - it's what they believe.

What I meant by 'alienating the fanbase' was by having to kill Anders in the next game to align yourself with the Templars. Or having to save Anders by joining the mages. There has to be a grey area - just like in DA2 where you could technically get Fenris fighting for the mages or, in a brilliant moment of bad writing, have Anders fight against the mages...

[berelinde]

All of my Hawkes but two have kept Anders alive. One of the two that killed him was a templar supporter who rivaled him and saw nothing but pain in Anders's future. He killed him out of mercy. Another, also a templar supporter, killed him out of a sense of obligation. I hated that Hawke with a flaming purple passion. My favorite Hawke kept him alive because he figured that if the Maker wanted him dead, there would be plenty of opportunities to die in the firefight that was bound to happen. Unlike some of my atheist Hawkes, that one is pretty devout and believes that the absent Maker acts through mortals to accomplish his ends. He is horrified by what Anders has done, but doesn't feel that he has the right to judge him. Maybe not ever, but definitely not before the dust settles. As time goes on, he begins to believe that Anders was doing the Maker's work. Both he and Anders have a lot to work through before their relationship is healed, but ultimately, that Hawke trusts Anders, and is willing to wait for answers... or accept the possibility that answers may never come. That, and that particular Hawke isn't about to turn his back on somebody he loves. Selfish? Patient? Delusional? All are possible explanations why that Hawke keeps Anders alive.

[SurelyForth]

I have to say that even with my vast love for Anders, I can understand why players would choose to kill him. I mean, as part of the game and not just out of character hate. And as it's framed as a potentially compassionate gesture (despite the implementation being far from compassionate), I think that makes it even...not more appealing, but less objectionable.

Personally, I am strangely optimistic about seeing Anders, or a non-union Mexican equivalent, in Dragon Age 3. In DA2 we had two quests that hinged on whether or not a DAO/A companion was alive, and in ME3, there are at least five major instances where the parts are doubled up to account for character death. There's no reason why a living Anders could't be integrated as a minor character into DA3 if they wanted him to be, and I get a sense that Gaider kinda does. It would be a simple matter of him being alive if he's alive and replaced by another mage rebel (or his own still Justice-fied corpse ) if he's not.

At this point, I'm more concerned how they'll handle Hawke in relation to Anders than anything else. I'd hate for it to be a situation where he's all "Hawke who?" even if you romanced him, because that would just suck. Alas, BW has been known to suck in that very specific way. 

berelinde wrote...
In other news, Hey look! It's Surely Forth!

 

*waves*

Modifié par SurelyForth, 27 juillet 2012 - 04:35 .

[Renmiri1]

SurelyForth wrote...

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At this point, I'm more concerned how they'll handle Hawke in relation to Anders than anything else. I'd hate for it to be a situation where he's all "Hawke who?" even if you romanced him, because that would just suck. Alas, BW has been known to suck in that very specific way. 

 
Tell me about it! My ME3 Sheppard romanced Thane and he all but goes "Sheppard who ?" on ME3. His romance arch is non-existent.  And all of the character development Thane went through in ME2 was completely ignored.

If we go by what Bioware did in ME3, then the Anders we will see in DA3 is the Awakening one that has never heard of Hawke or Justice 

berelinde wrote...

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Both he and Anders have a lot to work through before their relationship is healed, but ultimately, that Hawke trusts Anders, and is willing to wait for answers... or accept the possibility that answers may never come. That, and that particular Hawke isn't about to turn his back on somebody he loves. Selfish? Patient? Delusional? All are possible explanations why that Hawke keeps Anders alive.

Ya this is why not one of my Hawkes kills him. Besides, Anders is damn usefull in a party 


I had not noticed that the Right of Annulment and the Exalted March were pretty much approved. That makes a lot of sense. It was weird that a caring healer who spent 7 years with Hawke all of a sudden goes ''blow up church now now now! grrr!". I had attributed it to Justice but wasn't sitting well with me.

I also had a headcanon for another reason.. What if Hawke got pregnant ? As a daughter of a mage, partnering with a mage and having a mage sister, the odds of her child being a mage are huge.  As a healer and "being part demon Anders could find out before Hawke, and completely flip out over it. He could not stand the thought of his child growing up in a circle, nor he could risk Hawke being in any way involved with his plan or she and the child could get hurt. I plan  on writing a fanfic about this so if you have any feedback about the 'mage child' theory please let me know. Is it too similar to why Anakin Skywalker flipped to the dark side ? Too clichee ?

Modifié par Renmiri1, 27 juillet 2012 - 08:02 .