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[Sable Rhapsody]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Skyrim valentines. The top middle one looks like Anders

Anders and Ulfric.  Blonde revolutionaries who are equally loved and reviled.  I can see the similarities 

Of course, I sided with Anders in DAII and against Ulfric in Skyrim.  Also, is it bad that I think the dragon valentine is kind of sexy?

[Renmiri1]

Nah, dragons are awesome

[berelinde]

Hmm, maybe I should actually play Skyrim one of these days. I bought it for fiance because he doesn't like NPC chatter the way I do and I know that Skyrim has less of it, but he wasn't really able to get into it. So it sits on the shelf collecting dust.

[Renmiri1]

Is more of a grind game than a true RPG. You grind killing mobs to level up, gather ingredients for Alchemy, mine for blacksmith leveling...

But the scenery is breathtaking and the "macro" lore is not so bad, it has an ancient dwarf race that disappeared mysteriously and dragons that reapear out of nowhere. The personal stories are pretty much non existent though.

Modifié par Renmiri1, 08 février 2013 - 08:53 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

berelinde wrote...

Hmm, maybe I should actually play Skyrim one of these days. I bought it for fiance because he doesn't like NPC chatter the way I do and I know that Skyrim has less of it, but he wasn't really able to get into it. So it sits on the shelf collecting dust.

It's very old-school in its RPG sensibilities, which is both good and bad.  It's certainly a less forgiving system in terms of combat and mechanics.  As for the roleplaying, that's entirely up to you, which is again both good and bad.  It's much more reliant on player imagination than dialogue, character interaction, all the BioWare stuff.

Here's the thing, though--after having ME3's plot and characterization spoon-fed (and sometimes force-fed) to me, Skyrim was a welcome blast from the past in a lot of ways.  You can do just about anything, and you don't have to do anything.  Don't wanna help out that annoying main quest NPC?  You can walk across Skyrim naked, punching bears and stealing cheese wheels.  The roleplaying is in what you do, as opposed to what you say or decide at major plot junctures.  It's certainly not to everyone's tastes, but I find that a little imagination in Skyrim goes a long way.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 08 février 2013 - 10:27 .

[Renmiri1]

More DA band pics (David Gaider asked for fan art of it in his tumblr)

Modifié par Renmiri1, 09 février 2013 - 11:29 .

[berelinde]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

berelinde wrote...

Hmm, maybe I should actually play Skyrim one of these days. I bought it for fiance because he doesn't like NPC chatter the way I do and I know that Skyrim has less of it, but he wasn't really able to get into it. So it sits on the shelf collecting dust.

It's very old-school in its RPG sensibilities, which is both good and bad.  It's certainly a less forgiving system in terms of combat and mechanics.  As for the roleplaying, that's entirely up to you, which is again both good and bad.  It's much more reliant on player imagination than dialogue, character interaction, all the BioWare stuff.

Here's the thing, though--after having ME3's plot and characterization spoon-fed (and sometimes force-fed) to me, Skyrim was a welcome blast from the past in a lot of ways.  You can do just about anything, and you don't have to do anything.  Don't wanna help out that annoying main quest NPC?  You can walk across Skyrim naked, punching bears and stealing cheese wheels.  The roleplaying is in what you do, as opposed to what you say or decide at major plot junctures.  It's certainly not to everyone's tastes, but I find that a little imagination in Skyrim goes a long way.

Wish this forum had multi-quote.

Thanks to both Sable and Renmiri for the analysis! I totally get what both of you are saying.

"Old school" RPG doesn't really bother me. BG/BG2 were the first computer games I ever played, and combat-wise, they're a lot more challenging than any of the more recent games. That said, I find it hard to get past the lack of party interaction. When I played BG, I played multi-player with fiance (then BF), and the banter we supplied each other as we played kept me from getting bored. BG2 included that feature. It was good.

The problem I had with Skyrim was that I got bored before I got to the point where I could recruit a follower, so I never even got to see the little interaction there was. Maybe if I persevered long enough, it might work. I'm not *completely* lacking in imagination, but I really do need something to spark it. Punching bears is good for yuks, but not in endless supply.

But that does encourage me somewhat to try again. We'll see. At the moment I'm playing a NWN2 mod I've never played before, "The Maimed God's Saga," and I'm finding it quite good and highly entertaining. Your character's class, alignment, and religion are fixed - three things I would find utterly unacceptable in a purchased game - but in a free module, I can live with it.

[Sable Rhapsody]

berelinde wrote...
That said, I find it hard to get past the lack of party interaction. When I played BG, I played multi-player with fiance (then BF), and the banter we supplied each other as we played kept me from getting bored. BG2 included that feature. It was good.

That's a problem for me too.  Due to my playstyle in Skyrim (melee stealth + illusion and destruction magic), I could rarely bring followers around because their stealth AI blows.  I do think Skyrim's main quest NPCs and faction NPCs make up for it somewhat; I loved the characters in the Thieves' Guild, College of WInterhold, Civil War, and main story quests.

If you pick up Dawnguard, it introduces a follower named Serana who is much more chatty and responsive than the others.  She also has good stealth AI, so she's my go-to person.

[Melca36]

Monday Morning Anders Screenies 








I hope the characters in DA3 are just as expressive.

[Caeleinn]

Love those raised eyebrows in the first one. Bet you just gave him the Tevinter Chantry amulet, right? He gets the most adorable surprised look on his face.

[berelinde]

I love the last one. He seems to be saying "It's still there, isn't it? I'm going to turn around, and there's going to be a big, fat spider dangling inches from my face."

[Renmiri1]

In Skyrim you can recruit a follower as soon as you reach Riverwood but most people don't know it. Faend'el will join you if you tell the girl truth about the letter he has supposedly written.

I loved Faend'el because he was pretty much mute. Lydia and the other house Carls got on my nerves with all their brown nosing. Chatty companions usually annoy me, unless they are fun like Varic or Merril

[Nilfalasiel]

@ Melca 36: That second screenshot looks like he's about to toss his staff like a javelin. Thedas Olympics?

[Caeleinn]

Aaaaand I started yet another game, with a poor confused warrior Hawke; she doesn't know whether to be aggressive, nice, or make jokes. She usually makes jokes, just at inappropriate times. Just recruited Anders. Named my mabari war hound Kitty. My boyfriend got a kick out of that.

Modifié par Caeleinn, 12 février 2013 - 09:08 .

[Thaedriel]

Oh god, I really love that third Andersface. What was going on in that scene?

Also: My first few playthroughs I never noticed that Gamlen had a quest. Now it's one of my favorite quests in the whole game, because I think it's adorable how Anders makes comments like, "Only *your* uncle would own something called a wallop mallet," and "You have a cousin?" I like that they have inside jokes about Hawke's family. It's just so... normal. Gotta grasp at what little normal you get with Anders.

[Renmiri1]

I always name my mabari SerBarkalot

[Caeleinn]

Renmiri1 wrote...

I always name my mabari SerBarkalot

I named one of mine Beast and another one was named Barkspawn.  I almost named this one Fluffy, but decided on Kitty at the last second.  And came up with how Andrea (warrior Hawke) named it.  I imagine that she was a small girl, and all small animals were a kitty cat.  So when Malcolm gave her this wriggly puppy, she said, "Kitty!"  To which Malcolm said, "No. Puppy."  But Andrea was adamant; "No. Kitty."  And thus, the mabari war hound - a male, no less - became Kitty.

Imagine Anders face when Andrea yells "C'mere, Kitty!" and a huge dog comes running up in response.

[Melca36]

Caeleinn wrote...

Love those raised eyebrows in the first one. Bet you just gave him the Tevinter Chantry amulet, right? He gets the most adorable surprised look on his face.

You guessed correctly

[Nilfalasiel]

Melca36 wrote...

Caeleinn wrote...

Love those raised eyebrows in the first one. Bet you just gave him the Tevinter Chantry amulet, right? He gets the most adorable surprised look on his face.

You guessed correctly

Then again, it is the only scene in the game where he makes that face, so...

Caeleinn wrote...

Imagine Anders face when Andrea yells "C'mere, Kitty!" and a huge dog comes running up in response.

Poor Anders...Way to dash his hopes. His cat-related woes never end!

One of my Wardens has a mabari named Fluffy. If memory serves, it's ex-Princess Aeducan, of all people.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 13 février 2013 - 07:46 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

My Warden's mabari was named Nibbles after my boyfriend's old rabbit. So un-badass! I decided to make up for it with my Hawke, who has a mabari called Calenhad.

[Renmiri1]

Tehehe, I love Anders scenes with my Hawke's mabari

[hobbit of the shire]

I named my city elf Warden's mabari Pooky, after Garfield's teddy bear. My mage warden, Kain, had a mabari named Ebel. My latest DA2 mabari is called Gamlen, haha.

[Renmiri1]

Gamlen

[Nilfalasiel]

All my DAO mabari have the "uff" sound in their names, because my first mabari was called Wuffi, and the sonorities kinda stuck. So I have: Wuffi (Mahariel), Fluffy (Aeducan), Scruffs (Amell), Snuffles (Cousland), Truffle (Brosca) and Muffin (Tabris).

Unfortunately, I can't seem to remember any of my DA2 mabari names...

[berelinde]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

My Warden's mabari was named Nibbles after my boyfriend's old rabbit. So un-badass! I decided to make up for it with my Hawke, who has a mabari called Calenhad.

I give all my Wardens' and Hawkes' mabaris the most un-badass names imaginable - Petunia, Fluffy, Peaches (I named the dog before I remembered the letter), Butterfly, Fuzzbutt, etc. The only one who got a mabari with a semi-badass name was jerkface!Hawke, whose mabari was named Wolfe.

And yes, Anders's interactions with the mabari are priceless!