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[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Ashwraith wrote...

Non-Mage Hawkes, unite! *brofist*
I like the dynamic, too. I prefer Fenris for my Mage Hawke; I'm not sure why. (Oh wait, yes I do. Tension. It is delicious.)
Woe betide any hapless templar who threatens Anders on my RogueHawke's watch. To do so is to invoke the wrath of Sithis.

I like it because you can credit Hawke's encouragement and support of Anders' shenanigans to ignorance of magic and things. At least that's my Hawke's deal.

[Kawamura]

shiba5 wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

Threeparts wrote...
I agree with that: it's a little frustrating that we can't debate the two issues separately. I'm totally pro-mage, but consider inviting in Justice and accepting the situation with Vengeance is just as bad as approving of Merrill's blood magic. I understand that the whole purpose of Vengeance being there is to achieve their goal of breaking the Circles, but I want to be able to convince Anders that we can do that on our own, that humans can fight together against the Templars and that he doesn't need Vengeance.

I'm frustrated by that, too, but perhaps the problem is that Anders won't hear the two seperately. I know on Friendmance doing the Justice quest and not showing a lot of enthusiasm for his methods gets him really peeved at you. It might be that he can't tell the difference between the what he's doing and the how he's doing it if you don't attack him on both.

Or maybe they're making it so we can HAVE NO COMPROMISE.

I think it's the last part. I have a good friend who had played through the game up until the "big boom" and he despised helping Anders so much that he scrapped his character and had started a new one that would "never allow that to happen". He seriously thought he could change the outcome and I debated for oh... 5 minutes whether or not to let him down easy or let him find out for himself. Finally, I just said, "Your character may be the hero, but the story isn't about you. It's actually about that NPC you've been dragging around with you the whole game. Pretty brilliant joke by Bioware there, eh? eh?"
He was really pissed off, but I think he's up to his 3rd playthrough by now.

I actually like that sort of thing.

I mean. I know I'm playing this game to be a hero and all, but I like sorta not being the main agent of things. I guess I'm more the catalyst reducing Ander's activation energy then the actual products.

Anders will do what Anders will do. At the end of the day, no matter what Hawke does, no matter if he loves him, or beats the **** out of him or supports him or whatever, Anders is what Anders is now. There's no peace there. There can only be acceptance of how futile resistance is.

Which, really, just makes me think of Japanese literature and Tale of Genji. Everything is mono no aware.

[Galagraphia]

 I'll just drop 2 silly sketches and a song and will go to bed.

Rivalmance makes me sad. I want to hug Anders and tell him that I was kidding all the time and that I still think he's a nice person  

[Sjofn]

If I could be a warrior and keep Carver, it would be perfect. But I can't. So sometimes I have to sully myself with the mageness. Actually, it's not so bad, I like mages a lot better in DA2 than I did in DA:O. I hated 'em in DA:O, about half my playthroughs I did with no mage in the party at all.

I liked the warrior Hawke/Anders dynamic, partly because I figured she has spent her life protecting Bethany, so she sort of naturally slides into protecting Anders as well.

[Purposeof-Flight]

Galagraphia wrote...

 I'll just drop 2 silly sketches and a song and will go to bed.

Rivalmance makes me sad. I want to hug Anders and tell him that I was kidding all the time and that I still think he's a nice person  

I like the tattoo (or...what?) of a templar sword on Hawke's behind.

[Threeparts]

 So, is anyone else rarely getting appropriate dialogue from Anders when they click on him while out and about after Act I? Before the Deep Roads he'd say that Hightown has no idea what's brewing beneath them, or that Kirkwall starts to stink after a bit, but in Act II, all I've been getting is "We should get going." I'm on the Wounded Coast and Merrill still wants to go swimming and Aveline is worried about lawlessness, but Anders just thinks we should get going, no matter where we are.
I'm not sure if it's a bug, or if it's a feature to display his growing lack of interest in anything other than his cause. 

[Kawamura]

Threeparts wrote...

 So, is anyone else rarely getting appropriate dialogue from Anders when they click on him while out and about after Act I? Before the Deep Roads he'd say that Hightown has no idea what's brewing beneath them, or that Kirkwall starts to stink after a bit, but in Act II, all I've been getting is "We should get going." I'm on the Wounded Coast and Merrill still wants to go swimming and Aveline is worried about lawlessness, but Anders just thinks we should get going, no matter where we are.
I'm not sure if it's a bug, or if it's a feature to display his growing lack of interest in anything other than his cause. 

I remember thinking, through my first playthrough, "God, Anders doesn't have too many unique clicky lines". So, I think that might just be his thing.

[Periph]

I think it's the latter. Anders generally seemed to have a lot less commentary on his surroundings. Other than a few comments on things that had happened (saying he's sorry about Hawke's mother's death, for example), he always fell back on worrying about Hawke's safety or saying they should focus on the task at hand.

[shiba5]

Threeparts wrote...

 So, is anyone else rarely getting appropriate dialogue from Anders when they click on him while out and about after Act I? Before the Deep Roads he'd say that Hightown has no idea what's brewing beneath them, or that Kirkwall starts to stink after a bit, but in Act II, all I've been getting is "We should get going." I'm on the Wounded Coast and Merrill still wants to go swimming and Aveline is worried about lawlessness, but Anders just thinks we should get going, no matter where we are.
I'm not sure if it's a bug, or if it's a feature to display his growing lack of interest in anything other than his cause. 

I clicked on Isabela after Orsino went all abomination and she told me about her adorable hat shop again. Somehow it seemed appropriate coming from her.
Anders seems to get into his moods and doesn't say much during certain parts of the game.

[sabreene]

Kawamura wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

 So, is anyone else rarely getting appropriate dialogue from Anders when they click on him while out and about after Act I? Before the Deep Roads he'd say that Hightown has no idea what's brewing beneath them, or that Kirkwall starts to stink after a bit, but in Act II, all I've been getting is "We should get going." I'm on the Wounded Coast and Merrill still wants to go swimming and Aveline is worried about lawlessness, but Anders just thinks we should get going, no matter where we are.
I'm not sure if it's a bug, or if it's a feature to display his growing lack of interest in anything other than his cause. 

I remember thinking, through my first playthrough, "God, Anders doesn't have too many unique clicky lines". So, I think that might just be his thing.

I've found this also. While I can click on other companions and they will eventually say different things, Anders usually has one line and sticks with it.  I tried looking up to see if he was supposed to have other lines, like the others, but no joy. I couldn't find anything.  (grumble grumble mutter mutter wants toolset)

[mellifera]

Ashwraith wrote...

TripLight wrote...

Miss Greyjoy wrote...

I like Anders with a rogue/warrior, too. I like that idea that Hawke chops up any threats to Anders with a pointy weapon. (That's why I love that beautiful wallpaper that was posted way back.) 
 I also like saving my mages for Fenris- they fill him with RAGE!

You hit it on the nose, that's why I can't put him with another mage.

Non-Mage Hawkes, unite! *brofist*
I like the dynamic, too. I prefer Fenris for my Mage Hawke; I'm not sure why. (Oh wait, yes I do. Tension. It is delicious.)
Woe betide any hapless templar who threatens Anders on my RogueHawke's watch. To do so is to invoke the wrath of Sithis.

I like both dynamics. I like having a personal stake in the conflict that doesn't solely involve Anders but also being able to share that with him at the same time. I also like the protector/defender out-of-your-element factor that comes into play with non-mage classes, though it's not like mages can't defend themselves (especially in Anders' case where he has kind of like, crazy demon powers if the templars come a-knockin'). But I do quite enjoy both sides and don't really have an opinion on which is "better", especially when that leads to annoying arguments.

My canon is a mage though. Not for any grand reason or what I believe works better in terms of a relationship dynamic (since I don't think class as much as character matters), I just like using spells. Take Fist of the Maker from me and I'll throw a tantrum. Just sayin'.

I prefer Fenris with no one anyway, but that's neither here nor there.

And I want a summon kitten army spell too 

Modifié par yukidama, 27 mars 2011 - 09:31 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

yukidama wrote...

I prefer Fenris with Isabela, but that's neither here nor there.

Fixed that for you.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 27 mars 2011 - 09:33 .

[mellifera]

Pseudocognition wrote...

yukidama wrote...

I prefer Fenris with Isabela, but that's neither here nor there.

Fixed that for you.

You're right, how could I forget 

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

yukidama wrote...
You're right, how could I forget 

Isabela Rivalry + 50

[Miri1984]

I don't think the friendmance needs an option to tell him that joining with Justice was a bad idea. It's like telling a victim of lung cancer they shouldn't have smoked for ten years. IT'S DONE. He can't undo it, all he can do is hope to control it.

I like to think my Hawke spends the last three years with him living with her teaching him meditation techniques and breathing exercises to control his temper, not harping on at him for doing something stupid six years ago that has come back to bite him on the arse, that he CAN'T CHANGE.

/rant over.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

That makes sense, Miri.

[dangereusegirl]

So I got to the part in the game where you could flirt with Anders, and he asks if he is making you uncomfortable. We flirt a bit, and since I was playing with aggressive options as my primary dialogue, my Hawke said she could look after herself.

Anders: No.

Me: o.O [laughs]

That was...odd, to say the least. Funny, but odd.

[highcastle]

Sjofn wrote...

If I could be a warrior and keep Carver, it would be perfect. But I can't. So sometimes I have to sully myself with the mageness. Actually, it's not so bad, I like mages a lot better in DA2 than I did in DA:O. I hated 'em in DA:O, about half my playthroughs I did with no mage in the party at all.

I liked the warrior Hawke/Anders dynamic, partly because I figured she has spent her life protecting Bethany, so she sort of naturally slides into protecting Anders as well.

You know, when I played Origins I had a hard time playing as anything but a rogue. But I could do mage from time to time, it just wasn't as fun for me. And then DA2 came around, and even from the time the demo was released I found mages more fun than the other classes. They definitely improved the experience. And I too adore Carver and wish he could stick around no matter what. Plus, mage!Hawke just feels more connected to the main conflict. Probably why I have three completed mage playthroughs and I've yet to make it past th prologue with warriors or rogues.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

dangereusegirl wrote...

So I got to the part in the game where you could flirt with Anders, and he asks if he is making you uncomfortable. We flirt a bit, and since I was playing with aggressive options as my primary dialogue, my Hawke said she could look after herself.

Anders: No.

Me: o.O [laughs]

That was...odd, to say the least. Funny, but odd.

He doesn't say this to Man Hawke.

Which I like, cuz that response is kind of... nothankyou.

[Miri1984]

Pseudocognition wrote...

That makes sense, Miri.

Thanks! Sorry for the rant mode though. 

[Sjofn]

highcastle wrote...

Sjofn wrote...

If I could be a warrior and keep Carver, it would be perfect. But I can't. So sometimes I have to sully myself with the mageness. Actually, it's not so bad, I like mages a lot better in DA2 than I did in DA:O. I hated 'em in DA:O, about half my playthroughs I did with no mage in the party at all.

I liked the warrior Hawke/Anders dynamic, partly because I figured she has spent her life protecting Bethany, so she sort of naturally slides into protecting Anders as well.

You know, when I played Origins I had a hard time playing as anything but a rogue. But I could do mage from time to time, it just wasn't as fun for me. And then DA2 came around, and even from the time the demo was released I found mages more fun than the other classes. They definitely improved the experience. And I too adore Carver and wish he could stick around no matter what. Plus, mage!Hawke just feels more connected to the main conflict. Probably why I have three completed mage playthroughs and I've yet to make it past th prologue with warriors or rogues.

Rogue was my favorite in DA:O too. The melee rogues are way too spazzy and irritating for me to play in DA2, but I loooove what they did with archery, so I guess it evens out. I don't have a Zevran to dance with in DA2, so I won't lose sleep over it, anyway.

I rather like the warrior in both DA:O and DA2 ... sometimes a girl just wants to hit things with a big sword.

Modifié par Sjofn, 27 mars 2011 - 09:46 .

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Pseudocognition wrote...

dangereusegirl wrote...

So I got to the part in the game where you could flirt with Anders, and he asks if he is making you uncomfortable. We flirt a bit, and since I was playing with aggressive options as my primary dialogue, my Hawke said she could look after herself.

Anders: No.

Me: o.O [laughs]

That was...odd, to say the least. Funny, but odd.

He doesn't say this to Man Hawke.

Which I like, cuz that response is kind of... nothankyou.

My reaction when I started my Lady Hawke, basically (you know, after I was like "Well, f**k you, buddy")

(by gabulinka on dA)

[Sjofn]

Yeah, when he was all ALAS WE MUSTN'T my initial reaction was "wat." Yet I kept flirting with him, I don't know why. He wasn't lying, though!