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[Threeparts]

thenyxie wrote...

Tell me about it. I'm trying to pull a Fenris (who leaves) then Isabela (for fun and maybe a little spite) then Anders (to rebound) and it is TOTAL WORK. And still not happening for me even though I've got Fenris at 100% friendship (and OMG that was some work) and we finished his quest in Act II. *sigh* I'm about to give it all up and just fall into Anders' arms.

See, now I'm curious about how others think relationships played out for their canon Hawkes.

In my head canon, Hawke and Anders have massive chemistry but she was trying to take his warnings to stay away seriously, so for the first four years they were awesome mates who flirted now and then. Hawke would have leapt at him in an instant if he had been interested, but she held off as he seemed so unwilling and worried about what would happen.
The Fenris thing was sudden and unexpected hate-sex (go go rivalry) after years of pushing each others' buttons, and as far as Hawke was concerned it was over the morning after it began. Izzy's seduction a month or two later was a mostly based on curiosity, and probably re-occured several times right up until Anders finally gave it up.
Up until The Kiss, this screenshot pretty much summed up Hawke and Anders' entire relationship. Getting him to admit that there was something between them was an enormous triumph for my Hawke, and I can imagine her face being set into a smug little smirk for the next week or so after he caved.
Now that she finally has her claws into him, she isn't planning on letting go, no matter what. They're both completely crazy and in love, and Hawke is viciously protective of her mage. Things will go to hell in Act III, but don't expect her to let Meredith lay a single damn finger on any mage Hawke has taken under her wing.


What about everyone else? How did things play out between your Hawkes and Anders?

Modifié par Threeparts, 28 mars 2011 - 09:58 .

[Sjofn]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

 Fenris won't romance you if you flirt with anyone else before you hit on him in Act 2.

Hm, I totally flirted with Anders in Act 1 with my Fenris lovin' MANHAWKE, and we got together. I thiiiiink I flirted with Fenris first, maybe that was it? Hell, I don't know. 

Fenris is such a touchy bastard! He's way too annoying to romance for me, as it feels like all sorts of random stuff will throw him off the track and I hate it because you never get any dang feedback about it. Anders is a crazed stalker, but at least I know where we stand, dang it.

[nyxocity]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

Is it bad that I've made a save of a Hawke, Fenris, Anders and Izzy party right before a conversation trigger point, just so I can hear the two boys growling over Hawke with Izzy chiming in, "I did her too." at the end?
It's one of my favourite banters, if only because I can imagine my Hawke oblivious to the three of them while eyeing up the handsome guard over by that pillar.

I've never gotten that banter and it makes me angry.
It's so much work to sleep with all three and NOT ****** someone off, that I completely deserve it. It's too bad I never have Isabela in my party, though...she hates everything I do.

Tell me about it. I'm trying to pull a Fenris (who leaves) then Isabela (for fun and maybe a little spite) then Anders (to rebound) and it is TOTAL WORK. And still not happening for me even though I've got Fenris at 100% friendship (and OMG that was some work) and we finished his quest in Act II. *sigh* I'm about to give it all up and just fall into Anders' arms.

That's the order I do it in! lol
First thing I do in Act 2 is get Fenris's gift. Then I show up in his mansion, give him his gift, catch up with him, and if I do things right, I can get his Questioning Beliefs quest in. Then I go to the Wounded Coast and start his personal quest, finish that, bed him, he leaves me.
Then I go to the Hanged Man, hit on Isabela, bed her, she leaves me.
Then I go straight to Anders, give him his gift, flirt hardcore, and then it's just a waiting game. You don't get Dissent until after Blackpowder Courtesy is finished...if you pick all the right options during the quest and during his Questioning Beliefs afterwards, you've got yourself an Anders.
 <B>Fenris won't romance you if you flirt with anyone else before you hit on him in Act 2</B>.

I hear that sometimes, but then other times I hear it isn't true. I think I'm screwed right now because Isabella is waiting to jump into bed with my Hawke and I've been avoiding the estate for that reason (reloaded once i realized she was there). Fenris' cutscene overrode the Isabella scene, so I got to play it through, but he left after I said "don't go", even though he was at 100% friendship, so I guess I need to turn Isabela down and then see if he comes back (I hear he will sometimes). If not *shrugs* Better luck next time, I guess.

[Anna Rardin]

Sialater wrote...

Anna Rardin wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Anna Rardin wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I'm afraid Anna Hawke will be giving him plenty of opportunity for sneaking off and obsessing over her underwear drawer.  She prefers the broody elf with the big sword.   What can I say, she's got issues.  Just... not the same ones as Margaret.

You know what I find oddly creepy (but intriguing as well)? ... That your Hawke's names are the same as mine and my sister's o____o

Margaret and Anna?  Really?  ROTFLMAO.  Margaret's sorta morphed from my Meghan Shepard and Anna's just so I wouldn't have yet ANOTHER Avery.

yep! REALLY... well, my sister's name has two 'r's but, yea, the same names xD Just don't go naming anyone Christina or Ashley ;P (my other two sister's name, hahaa)

No problem.  Ashley's one of my neice's and Christina's one of my sisters' middle names.

Oh wow... popular names I guess? I never knew xD

[mesmerizedish]

MorningBird wrote...

There's a conversation that crops up between Isabela and Anders that indicates Anders did want/expect to die for his actions. Not necessarily because he thought Hawke would never forgive him (though I'm sure that factors in, depending on how you played out the relationship) or because he 'just wanted to be a martyr (though once again, I'm sure that factors into it, if only to make the thought of 'death' more comforting) but because at the end of the day, Anders didn't want to blow up a chantry and subsequently harm/kill a bunch of innocent people. He just felt he had to in an 'ends justify the means' kind of way.

Isabela: You want to free the mages. Let's say you do, but to get there, you kill a bunch of innocent people. What about them? Don't they deserve justice?

Anders: Yes.

MY LOVE! YOU ARE CORRECT!

He does feel as though he deserves to be punished for his actions. Ms. Hepler has said that she thinks the interesting punishment is forcing him to live in the world he creates.

[leggywillow]

Threeparts wrote...
See, now I'm curious about how others think relationships played out for their canon Hawkes.

In my head canon, Hawke and Anders have massive chemistry but she was trying to take his warnings to stay away seriously, so for the first four years they were awesome mates who flirted now and then. The Fenris thing was sudden and unexpected hate-sex (go go rivalry), and as far as Hawke was concerned it was over the morning after it began. Izzy's seduction was a mostly based on curiosity, and probably re-occured several times right up until Anders finally gave it up. Up until The Kiss, this screenshot pretty much summed up Hawke and Anders' entire relationship. Getting him to admit that there was something between them was an enormous triumph for my Hawke, and I can imagine her face being set into a smug little smirk for the next week or so after he caved.


What about everyone else? How did things play out between your Hawkes and Anders?

This is almost exactly how it went for my Kitty Hawke, minus Isabela.  She tried to put Anders out of her head and ended up hooking up with Fenris unexpectedly (glowy wall kiss FTW), although Fenris was a friend instead of a rival.

[Ninche]

Threeparts wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Tell me about it. I'm trying to pull a Fenris (who leaves) then Isabela (for fun and maybe a little spite) then Anders (to rebound) and it is TOTAL WORK. And still not happening for me even though I've got Fenris at 100% friendship (and OMG that was some work) and we finished his quest in Act II. *sigh* I'm about to give it all up and just fall into Anders' arms.

See, now I'm curious about how others think relationships played out for their canon Hawkes.

In my head canon, Hawke and Anders have massive chemistry but she was trying to take his warnings to stay away seriously, so for the first four years they were awesome mates who flirted now and then. The Fenris thing was sudden and unexpected hate-sex (go go rivalry), and as far as Hawke was concerned it was over the morning after it began. Izzy's seduction was a mostly based on curiosity, and probably re-occured several times right up until Anders finally gave it up. Up until The Kiss, this screenshot pretty much summed up Hawke and Anders' entire relationship. Getting him to admit that there was something between them was an enormous triumph for my Hawke, and I can imagine her face being set into a smug little smirk for the next week or so after he caved.


What about everyone else? How did things play out between your Hawkes and Anders?

Ah I was originally planning to be part of the Fenris fandom and I had no idea Anders would even be in DA2 since I was being so strict with reading stuff on the internet that might contain spoilers. And then my Hawke was literally at Ferelden exports and found out there is a grey warden in the city and for a second I had NO IDEA who it was, I was like SQUEEEE! Then when I heard it was a mage I was like... no way... and ran to Darktown to find a gorgeous Anders saving the life of that child and then challenging me with his THIS IS A PLACE OF HEALING AND SALVATION - dark, mysterious, posessed and a healer. And those eyes and lips.... it was like a love at first sight for my Hawke. And even though she thought he was being waay too presumtious with his "I will break your heart and it will kill me" nothing gets her going better than a challenge like that. She shortly considered sleeping with Fenris just for fun but he was being such a **** it quickly wore off. And his theme song is a gorgeous piece of music but COMMOn I dont know the guy AT ALL and it just sort of kicks in and is all melodramatic and serious. So I was put off by that. For my Hawke it wasbasically an aching horrible Anders crush from the start. 

[nyxocity]

Threeparts wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Tell me about it. I'm trying to pull a Fenris (who leaves) then Isabela (for fun and maybe a little spite) then Anders (to rebound) and it is TOTAL WORK. And still not happening for me even though I've got Fenris at 100% friendship (and OMG that was some work) and we finished his quest in Act II. *sigh* I'm about to give it all up and just fall into Anders' arms.

See, now I'm curious about how others think relationships played out for their canon Hawkes.

In my head canon, Hawke and Anders have massive chemistry but she was trying to take his warnings to stay away seriously, so for the first four years they were awesome mates who flirted now and then. The Fenris thing was sudden and unexpected hate-sex (go go rivalry), and as far as Hawke was concerned it was over the morning after it began. Izzy's seduction was a mostly based on curiosity, and probably re-occured several times right up until Anders finally gave it up. Up until The Kiss, this screenshot pretty much summed up Hawke and Anders' entire relationship. Getting him to admit that there was something between them was an enormous triumph for my Hawke, and I can imagine her face being set into a smug little smirk for the next week or so after he caved.


What about everyone else? How did things play out between your Hawkes and Anders?

My first playthrough my f!Hawke fell for Anders and fell hardcore and no one else even existed outside of a little harmless flirting here and there.

This time, with my m!Hawke, he was more on the fence between the templars and mages, and in some of the circumstances, it seemed like sending these out of control mages to the Circle seemed like a good idea. Fenris agreed with him, and Fenris was also hot, so... but then later on the Templars start incriminating themselves just as badly, and Anders is going on about the mages plight, and Hawke has a massive attraction to him, too, though he's trying to be in denial about it, because he's still got this thing going with Fenris. Plus, Anders seems more fragile, and Hawke is afraid he'd hurt him, because he's kind of a smart aleck and sometimes a jerk. Fenris has issues, but he seems tough enough to handle Hawke.

My plan from here was to have Hawke sleep with Isabela for fun and to move past the sting of Fenris walking out, and then slowly fall into Anders' arms... but it doesn't appear to be working out that way.

[Trophonius]

AndreaDraco wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

He still blows up the chantry, and from what Ms Hepler has said, he still wants to die for it. How you get to that point is a matter of personal preference.

But doesn't it contradict his final words in the Gallows, if you spare him?

I don't think he wanted to die. He thought Hawke would never spare him, not matter how close they were. But once Hawke spares him, Anders wants to fight for this revolution with Hawke. He clearly says so

Doesn't change the fact that he expected a direct consequence to his actions. That's why he allowed Hawke to take his life right then and there without any sort of resistance. He was only gobsmacked to have his life spared after annihilating a place full of innocent people and construed it as a way to make up for what he did. I honestly can't see him moping around all day, pondering about why you didn't kill him. It's pointless and counterproductive.

[Sialater]

Threeparts wrote...

What about everyone else? How did things play out between your Hawkes and Anders?

Oh, poor Margaret... She fell hard, and she fell fast.  Took her three years to convince him to stop being scared of her.  She'd go to his clinic after hours, just to talk, trying not to be nervous.  But she kept making really bad jokes.  Which, to her absolute surprise, he'd laugh at and not tell her to get lost. 

He was this older, intimidating, sexy-as-hell rebel and she loved every second she was near him.  He swept her up in his passions and took her along with him, making her see a cause that was bigger than she was, bigger than he was.  She might've been a ridiculously capable woman, but he made her feel like more than that.  As if she could take on the world by herself as long as he had her back.

And he asks how much longer SHE was going to torment HIM. 

[MorningBird]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

MY LOVE! YOU ARE CORRECT!

He does feel as though he deserves to be punished for his actions. Ms. Hepler has said that she thinks the interesting punishment is forcing him to live in the world he creates.

<3

lol, my Hawke left him alive.  Though it had more to do with him being hopelessly devoted to Anders and less to do with punishment.

My Hawke is doomed to a life of unhappiness and stress. x___x

Ish, please don't go blowing up any chantries. QQ

[Sjofn]

See, my LadyHawke, she only had eyes for Anders the entire time, and she wasn't going to let his stupid Dire Warnings put her off. She grew up with apostates in her family! What could he possibly do that she wasn't already used to? (ha ha ha ... sigh) Fenris got friendzoned the second he called Bethany a viper. And Varric wouldn't put out. And she wasn't into ladies. And Anders was a challenge. Mwah!

[mesmerizedish]

MorningBird wrote...

<3

lol, my Hawke left him alive.  Though it had more to do with him being hopelessly devoted to Anders and less to do with punishment.

My Hawke is doomed to a life of unhappiness and stress. x___x

Ish, please don't go blowing up any chantries. QQ

If I even considered it, I know I'd have you to get me back on track. BECAUSE BY GOD DO YOU KNOW HOW TO RIVALMANCE. I'm rivalmancing Anders on my current character.

My first character left him alive because Merrill said he should try and set things right.

[AndreaDraco]

My Hawke spared him because he understood. He knew what Anders was coming from and - even if, perhaps, he didn't fully agree with the methods - he shared the same vision. Call me a hopeless romantic or idealistic, but I think it's a really powerful idea the one of the two of them fighting for a better world, while, of course, living with the consequences of their actions.

The thing I like the most about the Anders romance is that it's really about how far you would go for the person you love. That's really a great theme, in my opinion, one that deeply resonated with me.

Modifié par AndreaDraco, 28 mars 2011 - 09:42 .

[ipgd]

Threeparts wrote...

What about everyone else? How did things play out between your Hawkes and Anders?

A long three years trying to pry his legs open, followed by a horribly unhealthy codependant relationship involving daddy issues and shared underpants. Also, a terrorist pirate ship getaway staffed entirely by a crew of cats.

[Sjofn]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

My first character left him alive because Merrill said he should try and set things right.

That's sort of why my first ManHawke left him alive (first LadyHawke left him alive because oh my God I can't knife my boyfriend even if he sort of deserves it). Merril was his ladyfriend, and you know, if she says leave him alive, after all the horrible crap Anders piled on her, maybe ManHawke should listen to her.

[mesmerizedish]

AndreaDraco wrote...

My Hawke spared him because he understood. He knew what Anders was coming from and - even if, perhaps, he didn't fully agree with the methods - he shared the same vision. Call me a hopeless romantic or idealistic, but I think it's a really powerful idea the one of the two of them fighting for a better world, while, of course, living with the consequences of their actions.

The same kind of romantic as V and Evie watching the destruction of government buildings with "1812 Overture" playing over the loudspeakers?

[YamiSnuffles]

Threeparts wrote...

What about everyone else? How did things play out between your Hawkes and Anders?

For my canonHawke, at the time she first met Anders, she was still focused on her family. She wanted to make sure her mom was happy and her sister was safe. Then she saw Anders and was instantly drawn to him. She is a passionate person and already felt strongly about mages due to her sister and father. To her, Anders seemed perfect- compassionate, all about the mage cause, and of course handsome. After she saw him, there was no one else who could compare.

Even after his problems became more apparent, she couldn't help but admiring his drive. Over time, she came to see him as one of her closest friends but didn't know if it would ever become something more. So she flirted, but didn't necessarily think anything would ever come of it. By the time Anders finally gave in, she was ready to throw herself heart and soul into the relationship.

So basically, two passionate people who perhaps shouldn't have gotten together for that very reason and yet also couldn't help themselves because of it.

[Dunizel]

ipgd wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

What about everyone else? How did things play out between your Hawkes and Anders?

A long three years trying to pry his legs open, followed by a horribly unhealthy codependant relationship involving daddy issues and shared underpants. Also, a terrorist pirate ship getaway staffed entirely by a crew of cats.

 
LMAO. 

I've never seen the romance summarized like this, but it is perfect o.o
Sorry, ah unhealty as it sounds...that had to be so much fun XD

[AndreaDraco]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

The same kind of romantic as V and Evie watching the destruction of government buildings with "1812 Overture" playing over the loudspeakers?

I was thinking more along the lines of Thelma & Louise, being fugitive and all, but yours is a better example!

[Ryzaki]

Huh. My Hawkes feel in love with Anders slowly. He crept on them like a fungus.

They would argue for hours about templars and mages and how free they should've been and some of Anders' ideas rubbed off on my Hawkes (as did the reverse). They spent years watching each others backs in combat (with my Hawke (despite classes) always being the one to swoop in to save Anders from danger with a spell or a blade and Anders healing them constantly) and drinking at the hanged man. (Usually leading to more bickering and discussion of the mages situation). Discussions of cats vs dogs. Kittens, different magics (for my warriors different ways to combat magics which Anders always tries to avoid leading to a forced sparring match). Then Anders makes his confession and they're kind of hating to admit it that feel similarly and it leads to a "you too?" and well it all goes into a beautiful horrible trainwreck from there.

Though  at the prying his legs open. I might give one of my Hawkes that backstory. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 mars 2011 - 09:48 .

[Purposeof-Flight]

Sjofn wrote...

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

 Fenris won't romance you if you flirt with anyone else before you hit on him in Act 2.

Hm, I totally flirted with Anders in Act 1 with my Fenris lovin' MANHAWKE, and we got together. I thiiiiink I flirted with Fenris first, maybe that was it? Hell, I don't know. 

Fenris is such a touchy bastard! He's way too annoying to romance for me, as it feels like all sorts of random stuff will throw him off the track and I hate it because you never get any dang feedback about it. Anders is a crazed stalker, but at least I know where we stand, dang it.

I'm talking about Act 2.
If you go to Anders first, or if you sleep with Isabela, the romance doesn't start...not for me, anyway.

[Ryzaki]

Yeah Fenris doesn't want you after you've been with Anders. XD

Don't know why but yeah...LOL

[mesmerizedish]

Ryzaki wrote...

Yeah Fenris doesn't want you after you've been with Anders. XD

Don't know why but yeah...LOL

Anders is a **** about it to Fenris. Or so I've heard. My characters have (thus far) been pretty nice about the romances.

[Ryzaki]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Yeah Fenris doesn't want you after you've been with Anders. XD

Don't know why but yeah...LOL

Anders is a **** about it to Fenris. Or so I've heard. My characters have (thus far) been pretty nice about the romances.

God he is. I left Fen (well technically Fen left me but yeah...) and the next banter I heard wasAnders rubbing it in Fen's face. 

So petty. It turns me off the whole leaving Fenris for Anders bit. Because really that wasn't necessary. AT all. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 mars 2011 - 09:50 .