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[Kawamura]

‘"I used to have a lot of fights with Martin about his theory about disobeying the law. I didn’t believe in that. I  thought you did have a right to disobey a law, and you also had a right to go to jail for it. He kept talking about Thoreau, and I told him … ‘If I understand it, Thoreau wrote his book in jail. If you want to write a book, you go to jail and write it’’’

Heh. But, black guy reporting in (well. Half. So half opinion,  I guess), but I can honestly say the mages did not remind me of black folks. You want to talk about black folks, look to elves. Even Fenris' devotion reminds me of that.

Modifié par Kawamura, 29 mars 2011 - 09:57 .

[ipgd]

silver-crescent wrote...

Since I can't find the correct thread - are there any updates on the whole "getting Anders to side with the templars if you get full rivalry and convince him he was wrong" deal?

There doesn't seem to be a way to get it through normal play. It was either bugged or removed.

[Rinji the Bearded]

silver-crescent wrote...

Since I can't find the correct thread - are there any updates on the whole "getting Anders to side with the templars if you get full rivalry and convince him he was wrong" deal?

None that I know of.

[Rinji the Bearded]

We can't even compare the elf situation to that, either, because Andraste DID start a war that lead to their freedom ... or their treatment as second-class citizens at best.

Thedas is an ugly world, just sayin'.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 29 mars 2011 - 09:59 .

[silver-crescent]

Lame. I wanted to do that on my current playthrough.

From a gameplay point of view it really sucks. Basically you have to go against the 2 final bosses without healing, unless you happen to have Bethany.

[digital flaneur]

It's really a testament to the writers that this one character stirs up SO MUCH DEBATE. There's really just no way of knowing how he should have acted. But he was correct -- if Elthina remained alive, the Circle likely would have stayed, and the stalemate between the mages and the templars would have continued on indefinitely, as well as the abuses on both sides.

(Also, I find it interesting that the mages are pretty much the one reason the qunari have been pushed back so successfully by the Chantry. I have a feeling that if not for the fact the Chantry can basically use them as a weapon, the mages would be hunted and tranquil'd to begin with. But then again, I sided with the mages; the templars also have their arguments.

Also, what's this people have said about Andraste being a mage? Haven't heard of that, but it's intriguing! If so, I wonder if the Maker may have been some kind of spirit himself.)

Anyway, I him. And all of his contradictions. I loved him in Awakenings, and I wish there'd been an easier transition between Awakenings Anders and DA2 Anders -- but his story arc totally surprised me with how heartwrenching and difficult it is. I really didn't expect that.

Modifié par digital flaneur, 29 mars 2011 - 10:02 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

You know you have DA on the brain when you have a fit model right in front of you to draw and end up with an Anders doodle.

>_>

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 29 mars 2011 - 10:05 .

[Magaloo]

Pseudocognition wrote...

You know you have DA on the brain when you have a fit model right in front of you to draw and end up with an Anders doodle.

>_>

pictures or it did not happen

Plus this thread is in dire needs of Anders (in a non terrorist/ revolutionary way)

[Miri1984]

I think it's safe to say that the inspiration for Anders' story, and the plight of the mages, and the plight of the elves for that matter was drawn from real life examples, but parallels always fall down somewhere and we can't simply box this whole situation into "It was right because of this" or "it was wrong because of that."

[Ninche]

And this is why Dragom Age 2 is so brilliant! HUZZA

[mellifera]

Pseudocognition wrote...

You know you have DA on the brain when you have a fit model right in front of you to draw and end up with an Anders doodle.

>_>

Needed to be scruffier and fully clothed to get your attention, huh?

[Ninche]

Miri1984 wrote...

I think it's safe to say that the inspiration for Anders' story, and the plight of the mages, and the plight of the elves for that matter was drawn from real life examples, but parallels always fall down somewhere and we can't simply box this whole situation into "It was right because of this" or "it was wrong because of that."

Yup, and that's why DA2 is so brilliant, it far exceeded my expectations and I had extremely high expectations!

To change the subject I want a DLC of the Hawke/Anders honeymoon period - you know the year after their first night together? When Anders turns his back on his cause for a time and is all hopefull that Ethina and Meredith are not that hprrible after all

[SurelyForth]

yukidama wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

You know you have DA on the brain when you have a fit model right in front of you to draw and end up with an Anders doodle.

>_>

Needed to be scruffier and fully clothed to get your attention, huh?

Anders has truly broken us all. 

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Oh, here's Ser Pounce-a-Lot(also know as Taki) helping me knit the Anders Scarf(because it's the only thing I know how to knit so far).

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Pseudocognition wrote...

You know you have DA on the brain when you have a fit model right in front of you to draw and end up with an Anders doodle.

>_>

You make it sound like a problem. Lets switch.

[ekurian]

Ninche wrote...

To change the subject I want a DLC of the Hawke/Anders honeymoon period - you know the year after their first night together? When Anders turns his back on his cause for a time and is all hopefull that Ethina and Meredith are not that hprrible after all

I want this

ANDERS FLUFF.

[Threeparts]

Magaloo wrote...

Plus this thread is in dire needs of Anders (in a non terrorist/ revolutionary way)

Since the turn this thread has taken is partly my fault (IHU SEBASTIAN), I shall make amends:


By spidercandy of dA (I think, the damn site is down).

Modifié par Threeparts, 29 mars 2011 - 10:20 .

[Magaloo]

Miri1984 wrote...

I think it's safe to say that the inspiration for Anders' story, and the plight of the mages, and the plight of the elves for that matter was drawn from real life examples, but parallels always fall down somewhere and we can't simply box this whole situation into "It was right because of this" or "it was wrong because of that."

You resume it simply and perfectly for me.  Its why they strike a chord.. its because those stories have been seen before and will be seen again too. 

I am wondering though what the prophecy of Sandal will affect in the world that Anders has nudged into a no compromise way.  Sandal prophecy here www.youtube.com/watch 

For that and Flemeth advice of jumping to embrace the change... makes me glad to have chosen the mages plight

[TripLight]

leggywillow wrote...

So comparing Anders to Zoolander's Hansel made me think of this possible Anders/Warden reunion

Anders: So I'm climbing to the top of the Chantry to plant a bomb when suddenly I slip, and I start to fall. Just falling, ahh ahh, I'll never forget the terror. When suddenly I realize "Holy ****, Anders, haven't you been drinking lyrium for six straight days, and couldn't some of this maybe be in your head?"
Warden: And?
Anders: And it was. I was totally fine.  I've never even been to Kirkwall.

This seriously needs to be on the OP, I am typing from the floor as we speak, and I can't get up.

*ROFLMAO*

[leggywillow]

TripLight wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

So comparing Anders to Zoolander's Hansel made me think of this possible Anders/Warden reunion

Anders: So I'm climbing to the top of the Chantry to plant a bomb when suddenly I slip, and I start to fall. Just falling, ahh ahh, I'll never forget the terror. When suddenly I realize "Holy ****, Anders, haven't you been drinking lyrium for six straight days, and couldn't some of this maybe be in your head?"
Warden: And?
Anders: And it was. I was totally fine.  I've never even been to Kirkwall.

This seriously needs to be on the OP, I am typing from the floor as we speak, and I can't get up.

*ROFLMAO*

I think someone needs to write an entire Dragon Age 2/Zoolander parody.  That would greatly improve my life.  Hawke can suggest Fenris and Anders work out their differences in a broody walk-off.  And later they can have a freak-fest.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

I'm guessing he put the bomb in the Chantry basement because the reaction starts at the center of the building. Either there was a basement or the sisters were not that curious about an oddly shaped box in the center of the Chantry.

Something like this and holy balls is this NWS so be warned:

oglaf.com/tribute-day-2/

[silver-crescent]

Miri1984 wrote...

I think it's safe to say that the inspiration for Anders' story, and the plight of the mages, and the plight of the elves for that matter was drawn from real life examples, but parallels always fall down somewhere and we can't simply box this whole situation into "It was right because of this" or "it was wrong because of that."

Yes, there is a lot to it. It's just a shame some people seem to be simplifying it as "crazy guy randomly bombs church due to being crazy".

Modifié par silver-crescent, 29 mars 2011 - 10:25 .

[Threeparts]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Oh, here's Ser Pounce-a-Lot(also know as Taki) helping me knit the Anders Scarf(because it's the only thing I know how to knit so far).

grgggdghdjihaji red tabbies are the best cats, so adorable! 

I really need to get a camera. My two cats (Constantine, the cinnamon tabby, and Victor, the tortoiseshell) are curled up together on the other office chair, cuddling in their sleep, and it is ridiculously adorable.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Threeparts wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Oh, here's Ser Pounce-a-Lot(also know as Taki) helping me knit the Anders Scarf(because it's the only thing I know how to knit so far).

grgggdghdjihaji red tabbies are the best cats, so adorable! 

I really need to get a camera. My two cats (Constantine, the cinnamon tabby, and Victor, the tortoiseshell) are curled up together on the other office chair, cuddling in their sleep, and it is ridiculously adorable.

He has no shame.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Sialater wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Because peaceful marches, sit-ins, and hunger-strikes wouldn't work in a medieval society where might makes right.

Except in Thedas there's at least has been one documented success of peaceful sit-in, ironically concerning the founding of the Circle itself. A bunch of mages sat in the rafters of some building and refused to come down until the Chantry threw up their hands and let them stay isolated from the rest of the society. Someone with more codex-fu can expand on this more XD

Lol. You're right. I remember reading that one.

I remember that.  I also don't think it applies on a hellmouth.

As I said, Meredith would have looked up, gone "I am not amused." and rained a hail of arrows into the rafters.