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[Lady Dino]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Considering Anders is the only person who even managed to make a change for the Circles and get the mages to collectively strive towards independence in over 900 years -and so far the Circles broke free from the Chantry - I don't see the problem. Anders' goal was to put an end to the slavery of his people. Should he have allowed the Grand Cleric to do nothing and let the plight of his people for another 900 years when no one else was doing anything to help the mages? Should he have allowed slavery to continue? He acted, and it worked. The Circles seperated from the Chantry, and so have the Order of Templars. It's not as if Andraste wrote a strongly worded letter to the Imperium to end the slavery of her people.

You know Anders and Andraste have a lot in common. Both are escaped slaves (since we can already draw the parallels of slaves and mages. Both were willing to do whatever it took to end that plight (for Anders the chantry for Andraste attacking a just recovering kingdom). Some sorces say that Andraste was possibly a mage, supported by that fact that her very ashes are magical in nature, leading a revolution against mages. And then you have Anders who is a unique abomination, fighting to protect mages but still despising demons and blood magic.

Just something to think about.

[maselphie]

So, if I'm dating the founder of a new religion, does that make me a god, too?

[Lady Dino]

maselphie wrote...

So, if I'm dating the founder of a new religion, does that make me a god, too?

Well it didnt end so great for Andraste's husband so maybe we should be worried. 

[Eydris Ivo]

maselphie wrote...

So, if I'm dating the founder of a new religion, does that make me a god, too?

Now that would be an interesting story...

[Lady Dino]

double post sorry

Modifié par Lady Dino, 15 mars 2011 - 10:42 .

[casedawgz]

Anders really offended me in his Act 3 personal quest. I was in a romance with Merrill and he goes on this rant about how I shouldn't trust her because she'd screw me over. As I'm doing a quest for him to help him screw me over. He also said it directly in front of poor Merrill. Show some tact, bro.

[syllogi]

casedawgz wrote...

Anders really offended me in his Act 3 personal quest. I was in a romance with Merrill and he goes on this rant about how I shouldn't trust her because she'd screw me over. As I'm doing a quest for him to help him screw me over. He also said it directly in front of poor Merrill. Show some tact, bro.

He's not really himself by that point.  And he sees lying to Hawke as protecting him/her from being responsible for what he's about to do.  Doesn't make a lot of sense, but maybe his Apostate Manifesto lays it out more clearly...

[Miri1984]

Oh, Anders is absolutely HORRIBLE to Merrill. It's a bit heartbreaking actually. But she does represent everything that makes things difficult for mages. As long as mages turn to blood magic, no one will ever trust them to look after themselves.

I'm definitely going the rival route with Merrill this time around though. Her personal quest just ends... so so tragically. It's hard though, being mean to her is like kicking a puppy.

[casedawgz]

I liked that she stood up for herself a little bit. "You have no right to judge us!"

[Bhat]

Veritrix wrote...

After romancing Anders with a FemHawke Rogue all I can think of was, "Wow... this makes me think of Bad Romance."

This made me nearly spit out my coffee   And now the song's in my head every time I see Anders.  Well done!

[leggywillow]

I think Adam Howden also voices Brekker, that merc guy you kill in "Inside Job".  I wasn't looking at the screen when he started talking, so I thought "Why on earth is Anders going on about attacking caravan shipments?".  XD  I may be wrong, though; it's not the most distinct voice out there.

[Anglerfish610]

I just did that quest on my second playthrough and thought the same thing. I'm horrible at differentiating and identifying voices though.

Modifié par Fish Fables, 15 mars 2011 - 11:13 .

[Sarah1281]

Lady Dino wrote...

maselphie wrote...

So, if I'm dating the founder of a new religion, does that make me a god, too?

Well it didnt end so great for Andraste's husband so maybe we should be worried. 

I think if you kill him post-explosion then you've definitely cemented your place as the Maferath to Anders' Andraste.

[leggywillow]

Anders is pretty sexy when he's all Justice-d out.

I have to say, Hawke's complete non-reaction to Justice coming out in the Fade is hilarious.  She just kinda glances over and says something like "You look different". XD

[Miss Greyjoy]

Just finished the game, and WOW...just WOW! I romanced Anders as a snarky rogue, and it was heartbreaking. My whole RP perspective was that Hawke would do anything to protect her beautiful and sweet apostate sister. Anders was so sweet to Bethany, and then Bethany was like " you remind me of my father..." Awww...

Things started to fall apart around the Justice quest. Hawke refused to help him distract the Grand Cleric, since he was being shady (so I never got his sexy black robes). She even went so far as to tell the Grand Cleric that apostates were planning to attack. (Anders was all like "What are you DOING?" )

In the end, I spared him. The mages were screwed from the beginning, since Sister Nightengale basically confirmed that the Divine was coming to lay the smackdown on Kirkwall. So Hawke's attitude was "Stop feeling sorry for yourself and help me save these mages, you jerk!" He's gonna be making it up to her for LONG time.

Did anyone lose a lot of their companions when they decided to spare him? Luckily, I only lost Sebastian. I got teary-eyed when everyone stood by Hawke- even Nate and Zevran helped me out! And Cullen! YAY!

[panamakira]

I don't think my Lady Hawke is too fond of having a martyr boyfriend, but if she can deal with possessed mage boyfriend, then I guess she's in love. I think she's punishing him by keeping him alive for his actions rather than give him peace with death.

At this point, I'd say she's in a tragic relationship with Justice as much as Anders which makes everything creepier. Let Anders and Justice witness the result of their actions. Whether it will benefit mages or not. For all we know this is but a temporary resolution.

Plus at this point, I'm more worried about Orlais. I see that being a big focus on an expansion pack or DA3.

[YamiSnuffles]

Alright, I have made my way through all 43 pages of this thread! I beat the game last Thursday and then got really sick. I think it was just a coincidence, but I'll still blame the game.

So, now that I have recovered both from being sick and gamey angst and tragedy, figured I would jump in. My husband absolutely hates Anders so- though he hasn't beaten the game yet- I figure he won't be good for venting at. Does anyone have a link to a video of the scene where Hawke gives Anders the cellar key? I seem to recall being able to drag him off for more sexy time at that point but I was also getting a bit deliriously ill by Act 3. It was one of the only things that made me smile in that final act, but I haven't been able to find it on youtube.

[nenosronhir]

Miri1984 wrote...

Oh, Anders is absolutely HORRIBLE to Merrill. It's a bit heartbreaking actually. But she does represent everything that makes things difficult for mages. As long as mages turn to blood magic, no one will ever trust them to look after themselves.

I'm definitely going the rival route with Merrill this time around though. Her personal quest just ends... so so tragically. It's hard though, being mean to her is like kicking a puppy.

It's not too bad, actually - unless you go out of your way to be blunt and cruel, Hawke takes more of a "righteous, for your own good, I'm still here for you but you're going about this all wrong" tone (akin to Marethari, kinda?), more than a mean one.

I had Anders, Fenris and Merrill in a party at one point, and dear Maker, the sniping that goes on at her expense is BRUTAL. My Hawke wanted to turn around and slap them both. D8<

[Jean]

Miss Greyjoy wrote...

Just finished the game, and WOW...just WOW! I romanced Anders as a snarky rogue, and it was heartbreaking. My whole RP perspective was that Hawke would do anything to protect her beautiful and sweet apostate sister. Anders was so sweet to Bethany, and then Bethany was like " you remind me of my father..." Awww...

Things started to fall apart around the Justice quest. Hawke refused to help him distract the Grand Cleric, since he was being shady (so I never got his sexy black robes). She even went so far as to tell the Grand Cleric that apostates were planning to attack. (Anders was all like "What are you DOING?" )

In the end, I spared him. The mages were screwed from the beginning, since Sister Nightengale basically confirmed that the Divine was coming to lay the smackdown on Kirkwall. So Hawke's attitude was "Stop feeling sorry for yourself and help me save these mages, you jerk!" He's gonna be making it up to her for LONG time.

Did anyone lose a lot of their companions when they decided to spare him? Luckily, I only lost Sebastian. I got teary-eyed when everyone stood by Hawke- even Nate and Zevran helped me out! And Cullen! YAY!

Nate's quest never comes up for me and I never saw Zev at the end.

[panamakira]

Miss Greyjoy wrote...

Did anyone lose a lot of their companions when they decided to spare him? Luckily, I only lost Sebastian. I got teary-eyed when everyone stood by Hawke- even Nate and Zevran helped me out! And Cullen! YAY!

Yeah everybody backed me up. Nobody left me and I was like "That's right!! stay right here y'all..." but how did you get Nate and Zevran to help you out? Are you talking about the final battle? I only got Cullen and my sister!

[Eydris Ivo]

Yes, I just started Act 3 on my second play-through...urg:pinched:
Sad times ahead.

And yes, you can drag him off for more sexy time, but there is no scene. He just moves in towards you and it fades to black.

[Tamyn]

I made an alternate Anders appearance you can find here if anyone is interested. In my opinion I made him more handsome, and also slightly more troubled and dangerous-looking.

Modifié par Tamyn, 16 mars 2011 - 12:41 .

[maselphie]

OH GAWD Anders.
"Just mix the ingredients up and boom! Justice and I are free. And we can take our place among free mages." WTH, Hepler that's just some cruuuuel foreshadowin' puns.

Edit: YAY I was going to not do Anders' quest but as soon as I do he brings up Fenris and Fen steps in and yay. Glad I did it.

Tamyn wrote...

I made an alternate Anders appearance you can find here if anyone is interested. In my opinion I made him more handsome, and also slightly more troubled and dangerous-looking.

GTFO. Just kidding. Does he still have a ponytail? Can't tell from the pic.

Modifié par maselphie, 16 mars 2011 - 12:46 .

[Tamyn]

He does have the ponytail. I didn't want to bug people here by posting a bunch of screenshots, but there's a gallery on the mod page.

[Miss Greyjoy]

panamakira wrote...

Miss Greyjoy wrote...

Did anyone lose a lot of their companions when they decided to spare him? Luckily, I only lost Sebastian. I got teary-eyed when everyone stood by Hawke- even Nate and Zevran helped me out! And Cullen! YAY!

Yeah everybody backed me up. Nobody left me and I was like "That's right!! stay right here y'all..." but how did you get Nate and Zevran to help you out? Are you talking about the final battle? I only got Cullen and my sister!

I don't know...I didn't even notice them at first in all the craziness of that final battle. But I was hovering my cursor over the different statues to see how much HP they had left, and my cursor landed on Zevran. Once I saw that, I started looking around, and sure enough, there was Nathaniel, trusty bow in hand. Maybe they were there and you didn't notice them? It made my night! It almost made up for Anders stabbing me in the back!