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[Thiefy]

If Anders is a liar, well he's a liar? I'm not really sure what else there could be beyond that, other than everything you did "for him" (assuming you played that kind of Hawke) would have been a waste or in vain (if the only merit in your actions as "for love" and not "to do the right thing" anyway).

Aside from that though there's plenty of evidence that actually supports his paranoia as other people have pointed out,

[LT123]

You know what this game needs? Wade and Herren. I'm playing Awakening, and Wade is flouncing around the shop complaining about Turnip Keep while Herren tries to get my Warden to buy things.
Wade and Herren for DA 3!

Playing these two games at the same time is so weird.

Awakening has Oghren calling Anders "sparkfingers" and "manskirt wearing freak," Nate asking in a weary, irritated voice "What is your point, Anders?" Ser Pounce-a-lot, along with Anders a) hitting on Mhairi, Sigrun, Velanna, and probably other people I forgot, "I'm fond of the Who's and the What's" and c) wolf-whistling at Andraste's statue.

DA 2 has ANGST and TRAGEDY and it's all awesome but also depressing.

[Kawamura]

Yeah, I'm also a fan of tall scrawny Anders.

Skinny? Scrawny? Both. It always sorta weirded me out that he was as buff as -- well, everyone.

Thedas has a b*tchin' system of gyms.

[ipgd]

Pseudocognition wrote...

This is so offtopic but I don't care.

ITS A GAME ABOUT THE GAME ABOUT THE GAME IN A GAME ABOUT THE PLAYER. Kojima tricked you into playing yourself playing Metal Gear Solid. And made fun of you.

I guess it's sort of related. People do constantly complain about Anders being "gay", pay absolutely no attention to his character arc, then **** all over it without taking five minutes to think about anything that happened!

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

TripLight wrote...

Pseudo...I love you! Tall, Skinny Anders is totally my-canon as well. Though for some reason he reminds me of Roger from "101 Dalmations", I don't even know..

BTW Fan Art Dump


By DarianaLoki, the colors and her take on the characters...AMAZING

Really nice!
*sees woman in background*
So do they take turns or...

[Ryzaki]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Yeah, my Hawke told Fenris "I stay here for my family." when really in her head she was going "The game developers won't let me leave!"

Heh. I feel like I'm in an endless loop during the end of Dragon Quest VIII where I keep trying to refuse to take the princess hand but the game won't let me! 

I swear I pressed "No" like 40 times before giving up. XD I am nothing if not persistant. 

I mean...ugh. Would've made more sense to keep Leandra alive so there's actually a reason for Hawke to stay. As of now it looks ridculous. Especially considering you can tell Varric you're considering going back to Fereldan. I'm rich now! What exactly is stopping me from leaving demon infested land and living it up with sane folks? 

I guess everytime Hawke packed their bags their clothes and money would mysteriously vanish so they were forced to stay inside the mansion. Poor thing. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 31 mars 2011 - 02:52 .

[Trophonius]

DeaHamlet wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

@Highcastle, god yes, she's the one who's walking around saying "All these mages are so troubled, if Ser Alrik had lived, they would all be at peace" after you've killed him. *shudder*

I was wondering what the heck was with all that crap I was hearing.  Now it makes sense.  But I'm weirded out completely.  
UGH

I mean, they turned his tranquil solution down, but was anyone going to stop him from turning women tranquil and sleeping with them?
ICK.  So ick.

He's also the same templar responsible for making Karl tranquil. As soon as I heard that, I was already all up on his grill ready to cut a b****.

Clearly not a character you can defend...at all.

ipgd wrote..

I guess it's sort of related. People do
constantly complain about Anders being "gay", pay absolutely no
attention to his character arc, then **** all over it without taking
five minutes to think about anything that happened!

It's silly how people still continue to use Awakening as ABSOLUTE, UNDENIABLE, INCONTESTIBLE proof that's he's straight. He could've been attracted to men, but wasn't at a point where he has accepted it. Because god forbid, a person can't be gay or bisexual unless they're seen dry humping another person of the same sex, but when it's a straight character, people move on and stop giving a sh*t.

Modifié par Trophonius, 31 mars 2011 - 02:59 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

ipgd wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

This is so offtopic but I don't care.

ITS A GAME ABOUT THE GAME ABOUT THE GAME IN A GAME ABOUT THE PLAYER. Kojima tricked you into playing yourself playing Metal Gear Solid. And made fun of you.

I guess it's sort of related. People do constantly complain about Anders being "gay", pay absolutely no attention to his character arc, then **** all over it without taking five minutes to think about anything that happened!

On topic all along!

I could talk about MGS all day. I love it so. And Assassins Creed. And with DA, it's the trio of games that mess with my head so wonderfully.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Ryzaki wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Yeah, my Hawke told Fenris "I stay here for my family." when really in her head she was going "The game developers won't let me leave!"

Heh. I feel like I'm in an endless loop during the end of Dragon Quest VIII where I keep trying to refuse to take the princess hand but the game won't let me! 

I swear I pressed "No" like 40 times before giving up. XD I am nothing if not persistant. 

I mean...ugh. Would've made more sense to keep Leandra alive so there's actually a reason for Hawke to stay. As of now it looks ridculous. Especially considering you can tell Varric you're considering going back to Fereldan. I'm rich now! What exactly is stopping me from leaving demon infested land and living it up with sane folks? 

I guess everytime Hawke packed their bags their clothes and money would mysteriously vanish so they were forced to stay inside the mansion. Poor thing. 

That's what I got to. No family, loads of money. Why not just leave. Kirkwall definitely has not done me any favors. The elf servant stays with me though.

[mellifera]

Kawamura wrote...

Yeah, I'm also a fan of tall scrawny Anders.

Skinny? Scrawny? Both. It always sorta weirded me out that he was as buff as -- well, everyone.

Thedas has a b*tchin' system of gyms.

Seriously, Anders' character model should have been thinner. I dunno about the logistics of making him taller, but his model could have been slighter.

In my head canon my character doesn't necessarily look that... built or triangular either. He's a mage, not exactly the pinnacle of bodybuilders there hmm somewhat thin man on skinnier man ohohoho. Nor would he have the Hawke baby hair if I had anything to say about it *sobs*

WAS A NICE, SHORT, ANDY-WHITFIELD-AS-SPARTACUS HAIRCUT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR?!

Modifié par yukidama, 31 mars 2011 - 02:57 .

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Pseudocognition wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

This is so offtopic but I don't care.

ITS A GAME ABOUT THE GAME ABOUT THE GAME IN A GAME ABOUT THE PLAYER. Kojima tricked you into playing yourself playing Metal Gear Solid. And made fun of you.

I guess it's sort of related. People do constantly complain about Anders being "gay", pay absolutely no attention to his character arc, then **** all over it without taking five minutes to think about anything that happened!

On topic all along!

I could talk about MGS all day. I love it so. And Assassins Creed. And with DA, it's the trio of games that mess with my head so wonderfully.

Don't get me started on AC. The assassin tombs in it made me weep. I didn't think a game could put that much detail into a catherdral.

[TripLight]

Trophonius wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

@Highcastle, god yes, she's the one who's walking around saying "All these mages are so troubled, if Ser Alrik had lived, they would all be at peace" after you've killed him. *shudder*

I was wondering what the heck was with all that crap I was hearing.  Now it makes sense.  But I'm weirded out completely.  
UGH

I mean, they turned his tranquil solution down, but was anyone going to stop him from turning women tranquil and sleeping with them?
ICK.  So ick.

He's also the same templar responsible for making Karl tranquil. As soon as I heard that, I was already all up on his grill ready to cut a b****.

Clearly not a character you can defend...at all.

Actually, when you finish killing the templars in the chantry right before the Karl De-Tranquiled Cutscene kicks in you can raid the LT. Templars corpse, gotta do it fast though, and read his letter from Sir Alrik. It's a fair depiction of what an utter jackass he truly is.<_<

[Threeparts]

Ryzaki wrote...

Yeah Hawke was just...kind of there. 

And the forced killing/losing of your family really sucked. Frankly my Hawkes would've left Kirkwall at the end of act 2. By then they were just done. Alas. Plot demands I stay in the demon infested hellhole for another 3 years even when I have nothing keeping me there. <_<

That was one of my biggest annoyances: everyone making Hawke try to choose between calling Ferelden home and calling Kirkwall home. As someone who moved around a lot as a kid (six schools in as many years, woo), even having grown up to stick in one place for a few years, I don't call it home. It's just where I happen to live right now due to a confluence of circumstances.
I... really can't see Hawke that attached to Kirkwall, where so many awful things have happened to her, especially after only seven years out of thirty or so. And just because she was born in Ferelden doesn't mean Hawke has to have some sort of deep spiritual connection to it.

Probably why I like the ending with her and Anders on Izzy's party boat: "**** it, let's go to Antiva! No, wait-- Rivain! Woo!"

[Kawamura]

yukidama wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

Yeah, I'm also a fan of tall scrawny Anders.

Skinny? Scrawny? Both. It always sorta weirded me out that he was as buff as -- well, everyone.

Thedas has a b*tchin' system of gyms.

Seriously, Anders' character model should have been thinner. I dunno about the logistics of making him taller, but his model could have been slighter.

In my head canon my character doesn't necessarily look that... built or triangular either. He's a mage, not exactly the pinnacle of bodybuilders there hmm somewhat thin man on skinnier man ohohoho. Nor would he have the Hawke baby hair if I had anything to say about it *sobs*

WAS A NICE, SHORT, ANDY-WHITFIELD-AS-SPARTACUS HAIRCUT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR?!

I miss the portraits.

I wanted to give my hawke the "derp" face of the expressions in the portraits.

And Idk, i figure Hawke would be pretty buff, in a stringy sort of way (like a bad steak!) He probably hits things instead of uses magic. That was my thought. Because, seriously, with torque, it doesn't take much strength to hurt things. That's why we're on top of the food chain: sticks with heavy or sharp things on the end we can hit **** with.

[Ryzaki]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
That's what I got to. No family, loads of money. Why not just leave. Kirkwall definitely has not done me any favors. The elf servant stays with me though.

Yeah elf girl can stay. I need someone to cook. My Hawke can't cook to save his life. And Sandal and Bodahn can just leave early. Sandal did want to go back to Fereldan didn't he? 

Ugh. Devs didn't think that one through. 

My head canon is that my Hawke was done after mom died. Gave the mansion to Gamlen and told him not to screw up again before packing some bags and hightailing it out of there. 

All that nonsense with Templars and Mages? My Hawke didn't give a hoot. He was gone. 

[ipgd]

Pseudocognition wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

This is so offtopic but I don't care.

ITS A GAME ABOUT THE GAME ABOUT THE GAME IN A GAME ABOUT THE PLAYER. Kojima tricked you into playing yourself playing Metal Gear Solid. And made fun of you.

I guess it's sort of related. People do constantly complain about Anders being "gay", pay absolutely no attention to his character arc, then **** all over it without taking five minutes to think about anything that happened!

On topic all along!

I could talk about MGS all day. I love it so. And Assassins Creed. And with DA, it's the trio of games that mess with my head so wonderfully.

I love these games to an unhealthy degree, hnnghh.

And given all the negative backlash, it looks like DA2 is shaping up to be the next on my list of "see friend idly complaining about it, go into massive diatribe to explain every single theme and plot point because you just don't understand its genius man read all these essays wait where are you going stop oh god i am so alone"  games

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Threeparts wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Yeah Hawke was just...kind of there. 

And the forced killing/losing of your family really sucked. Frankly my Hawkes would've left Kirkwall at the end of act 2. By then they were just done. Alas. Plot demands I stay in the demon infested hellhole for another 3 years even when I have nothing keeping me there. <_<

That was one of my biggest annoyances: everyone making Hawke try to choose between calling Ferelden home and calling Kirkwall home. As someone who moved around a lot as a kid (six schools in as many years, woo), even having grown up to stick in one place for a few years, I don't call it home. It's just where I happen to live right now due to a confluence of circumstances.
I... really can't see Hawke that attached to Kirkwall, where so many awful things have happened to her, especially after only seven years out of thirty or so. And just because she was born in Ferelden doesn't mean Hawke has to have some sort of deep spiritual connection to it.

Probably why I like the ending with her and Anders on Izzy's party boat: "**** it, let's go to Antiva! No, wait-- Rivain! Woo!"

If only..... I definitely wanted no part in the mage/templar conflict. Could have let the Maker sort them out.

[Trophonius]

yukidama wrote...


WAS A NICE, SHORT, ANDY-WHITFIELD-AS-SPARTACUS HAIRCUT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR?!

Seriously! Dustin Clare can't compare. It's too bad Andy can't reprise the role. I hope he's gonna get better soon.

[DeaHamlet]

Ryzaki wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
Yeah, my Hawke told Fenris "I stay here for my family." when really in her head she was going "The game developers won't let me leave!"

Heh. I feel like I'm in an endless loop during the end of Dragon Quest VIII where I keep trying to refuse to take the princess hand but the game won't let me! 

I swear I pressed "No" like 40 times before giving up. XD I am nothing if not persistant. 

I mean...ugh. Would've made more sense to keep Leandra alive so there's actually a reason for Hawke to stay. As of now it looks ridculous. Especially considering you can tell Varric you're considering going back to Fereldan. I'm rich now! What exactly is stopping me from leaving demon infested land and living it up with sane folks? 

I guess everytime Hawke packed their bags their clothes and money would mysteriously vanish so they were forced to stay inside the mansion. Poor thing. 

I am telling you, I wanted to pack up Anders, Fenris and everyone else, BUY a ship (why did we need to make a deal with a douchebag for a ship for Isabela when Hawke can afford one)... and get the hell out of there.
Go find the warden or something.  Or simply just go.

And why didn't anyone try to step up to become viscount in 3 years?  The templars and chantry have gone mad with the power.  lol

[Miri1984]

@Threeparts My Hawke is staying because of Anders, Varric, Isabela and Aveline. They are her family now. Even Fenris to a certain extent, even though she thinks he's a complete douche. Although when Alistair turns up and says she'd be welcome back in Ferelden she REALLY would have said CAN I COME ON YOUR BOAT?

[Kawamura]

ipgd wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

This is so offtopic but I don't care.

ITS A GAME ABOUT THE GAME ABOUT THE GAME IN A GAME ABOUT THE PLAYER. Kojima tricked you into playing yourself playing Metal Gear Solid. And made fun of you.

I guess it's sort of related. People do constantly complain about Anders being "gay", pay absolutely no attention to his character arc, then **** all over it without taking five minutes to think about anything that happened!

On topic all along!

I could talk about MGS all day. I love it so. And Assassins Creed. And with DA, it's the trio of games that mess with my head so wonderfully.

I love these games to an unhealthy degree, hnnghh.

And given all the negative backlash, it looks like DA2 is shaping up to be the next on my list of "see friend idly complaining about it, go into massive diatribe to explain every single theme and plot point because you just don't understand its genius man read all these essays wait where are you going stop oh god i am so alone"  games

Why not just leave your manifesto hanging around for them to read?

I'm sure they'll love it. It worked out well for Anders.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Ryzaki wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...
That's what I got to. No family, loads of money. Why not just leave. Kirkwall definitely has not done me any favors. The elf servant stays with me though.

Yeah elf girl can stay. I need someone to cook. My Hawke can't cook to save his life. And Sandal and Bodahn can just leave early. Sandal did want to go back to Fereldan didn't he? 

Ugh. Devs didn't think that one through. 

My head canon is that my Hawke was done after mom died. Gave the mansion to Gamlen and told him not to screw up again before packing some bags and hightailing it out of there. 

All that nonsense with Templars and Mages? My Hawke didn't give a hoot. He was gone. 

Yeah, that's why I ultimately had to write my own version of the ending in a fanfic. Never written one before but the game left me feeling there could have been more. There wasn't enough tears, gnashing of teeth etc. It just was. Steered by the way the developers wanted it.

[Thiefy]

Oh can I add or recommend to the fanders music playlist? i think the accoustic version of "Broken" by Lifehouse would fit him very well.

I was randomly listening to my playslists on youtube when this popular song came up and thought it was very fiitng for our little mageling.

[Ryzaki]

Threeparts wrote...
That was one of my biggest annoyances: everyone making Hawke try to choose between calling Ferelden home and calling Kirkwall home. As someone who moved around a lot as a kid (six schools in as many years, woo), even having grown up to stick in one place for a few years, I don't call it home. It's just where I happen to live right now due to a confluence of circumstances.

Ah. I've lived in my home for about...15 years now. So it's hard not to consider it home.

I... really can't see Hawke that attached to Kirkwall, where so many awful things have happened to her, especially after only seven years out of thirty or so. And just because she was born in Ferelden doesn't mean Hawke has to have some sort of deep spiritual connection to it.

Probably why I like the ending with her and Anders on Izzy's party boat: "**** it, let's go to Antiva! No, wait-- Rivain! Woo!"

Yeah I can't see Hawke attached to Kirkwall either. It's a terrible place. The best thing to happen to my Hawke there was getting rich. And even that had a bucketload of bad things attached to it. 

I don't think it as being born in Fereldan as much as growing up there. I'll always have a special place in my heart for my childhood home. I spent almost all of my life there. 

I can't get on Izzy's boat because she keeps betraing me. GAH.

[Hellosanta]

If I had a choice to leave Kirkwall, I would have left with Anders wrapped up on my waist in between Act II and Act III :happy: I think that is best time to convince him to leave Kirkwall with me.

Modifié par Hellosanta, 31 mars 2011 - 03:07 .