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[DeaHamlet]

Kawamura wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...

Trophonius wrote...

While we're on Fenris, I'm finding it extremely frustrating how he can't seem to appreciate anything I give to him. The book? 'Eh, I can't read" that sword? "Eh, this is fake".

Needless to say, I threw my hands up and gave up on him.

Friendmancing Fenris I offered to teach him how to read and he was super sweet about it.
He's very grumpy pants if he's a rival though.  Aveline is even worse grumpy pants as a rival.  She kept telling Hawke that Hawke doesn't trust her abilities as a guard captain.  WTF, I just stood up for you to Cullen and told Jeven to STFU and die.  I didn't let you talk, sure, but when did I seem like I doubt your abilities?
She confused me so much, I'm not trying that experiment again.  Though the fist fight was awesome!

Considering rivalry for Aveline seems to be a lot about letting her have control or not, I could see how the rivalry convos might be about you not trusting her abilities.

*pout* I guess it's a limitation of the game because all I did was demand money, threaten people and be an all round ass, and she was RIVALRY... and then in her missions I supported her, though I guess not the way she wanted it (cause she continued to ARG Rivalry at me).  I helped with Donnic, killed Jeven (and didn't get the last upgrade YET again... seriously... did anyone test this game ever before release?)... and she says that stuff .  I guess the game doesn't differentiate between a companion not agreeing with my approach and actions and Hawke being an ass to them in their personal quests.

[Trophonius]

DeaHamlet wrote...

Trophonius wrote...

While we're on Fenris, I'm finding it extremely frustrating how he can't seem to appreciate anything I give to him. The book? 'Eh, I can't read" that sword? "Eh, this is fake".

Needless to say, I threw my hands up and gave up on him.

Friendmancing Fenris I offered to teach him how to read and he was super sweet about it.
He's very grumpy pants if he's a rival though.  Aveline is even worse grumpy pants as a rival.  She kept telling Hawke that Hawke doesn't trust her abilities as a guard captain.  WTF, I just stood up for you to Cullen and told Jeven to STFU and die.  I didn't let you talk, sure, but when did I seem like I doubt your abilities?
She confused me so much, I'm not trying that experiment again.  Though the fist fight was awesome!

No wonder he hates my stupid gifts. I was so busy trying to impress Anders that I've only recently noticed the 80% rivalry with Fenris. Why though, Fenris? Why can't you open up a little bit more? =(

And lol, Aveline gets a little intolerable by the end of Act 2. Especially when you're trying to set her up with Donnic. She tells you she's moved on from Wesley, but shoots daggers at you for selling his shield. I even recalled a time when she said, "I know we're not friends, Hawke" WTF?! So all this time playing matchmaker and creepily listening to your lovemaking meant nothing?

[Sjofn]

leggywillow wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Fenris...is somewhat close to a sane romance. He doesn't backstab you at least.

I feel so bad for my good guys.

I dunno how stable Fenris is, lol.  He's pretty nasty in a rivalmance. XD

Hawke: Fenris I got you a book!
Fenris: I CAN'T READ YOU CRUEL WITCH
Hawke: D:
::time passes::
Hawke: Fenris I got you a sword!
Fenris: TAKE YOUR SWORD AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS, WITCH
Hawke: I love you too, Fenris. <3

I ... think I need to rival Fenris now. Just for lulz.

Seriously I don't know how or why but Fenris is always my bestest friend. He liked my first warrior lady. He LOVED my ManHawke Mage to pieces. He made sweet love to my ManHawke warrior (to be fair, that one is my semi-pro-templar guy). He thinks my rogue LadyHawke is cool. He's giving my douche rogue ManHawke brofists. All this, even though I almost always side with the mages. It's weird.

Modifié par Sjofn, 31 mars 2011 - 04:56 .

[Ryzaki]

Miri1984 wrote...

@Ryzaki I don't know how old you are, but "honesty above all else" in relationships just plain hasn't worked for me, so I don't go near it now. You can lie to people, and they can be perfectly aware that you're lying to them, but the fact that you care enough to do it is what matters.

It's kind of how I see that last quest with Anders. My Hawke knows full well he's lying, he knows she knows he's lying, but as long as they don't acknowledge it they can continue to be happy for a time. When all hell breaks loose, that's when they can yell at each other about it.

I never said it didn't. *sighs* I wish people would stop taking everything I say offensively. I was simply saying what I felt worked for me. I'm very well aware different things work for different people. I don't presume to think my way is the only way or even good for other people than myself. I don't even think my way is healthy most of the time. It works for me and that to me is the only thing that matters. Selfish true but hey I rather be upfront about my selfishness and be yelled at it from the start. 

As for the last quest. I have to metagame through it. Because most of my Hawke's would refuse to help him. The only thing that makes me help is the metagame knowledge that it'll get done anyways. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 31 mars 2011 - 05:00 .

[DeaHamlet]

@Ryzaki
I don't actively TRY to be a loner, but I am always very happy to be alone and do my own thing. I welcome people in my life, but in general they have to get used to the fact that I don't particularly need them and I am not the type to consider their feelings 24/7. And people are my friends and come to me because they know I will give it to them straight up, no pretence, no sugar-coating.

So I guess I'm trying to say... I don't see how being cool with being alone is such a big thing.

[Ryzaki]

DeaHamlet wrote...

@Ryzaki
I don't actively TRY to be a loner, but I am always very happy to be alone and do my own thing. I welcome people in my life, but in general they have to get used to the fact that I don't particularly need them and I am not the type to consider their feelings 24/7. And people are my friends and come to me because they know I will give it to them straight up, no pretence, no sugar-coating.

So I guess I'm trying to say... I don't see how being cool with being alone is such a big thing.

I am very similar to you. And I don't see the big deal either. *shrugs* I just try to take people as they are. Everyone has their preferences and I'm fine with that. I

I'm not trying to tell anyone how they should feel damnit. 

[Sjofn]

Ryzaki wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

@Ryzaki I don't know how old you are, but "honesty above all else" in relationships just plain hasn't worked for me, so I don't go near it now. You can lie to people, and they can be perfectly aware that you're lying to them, but the fact that you care enough to do it is what matters.

It's kind of how I see that last quest with Anders. My Hawke knows full well he's lying, he knows she knows he's lying, but as long as they don't acknowledge it they can continue to be happy for a time. When all hell breaks loose, that's when they can yell at each other about it.

I never said it didn't. *sighs* I wish people would stop taking everything I say offensively. I was simply saying what I felt worked for me. I'm very well aware different things work for different people. I don't presume to think my way is the only way or even good for other people than myself. 

As for the last quest. I have to metagame through it. Because most of my Hawke's would refuse to help him. The only thing that makes me help is the metagame knowledge that it'll get done anyways. 

I just tell him to shove it on playthroughs where my Hawke would tell him that. I don't need him to change clothes that bad. :innocent:

[Kawamura]

Ryzaki wrote...
Unless you've met everyone in the world that's a rather odd statement to make.  

I've been told that it's never a good thing to say what someone is comfortable doing or would be comfortable doing. Some people are crazy. Everyone isn't you or people you've met. 
Your old because you're using words like adolescenty.  Though I'm pretty sure that's ended for me some time ago. I have stopped growing the last 5 years. Think I hit my peak some time ago. 

Though thanks for considering me adolescenty. I suppose I should cling to what youth I have left then? 

No. It's a good statement to make, I think. I don't have to meet everyone to be able to say everyone I've met has been a certain way. But I have met everyone I've met. And no one I've met has been particularly comfortable with being totally alone for a long-ish amount of time.

I remember reading that adolescence is not just the physical growth. It's the identity finding process involved as well. But I'm not a psych person. It's info I remember from a very long time ago. But the desire to be different always strikes me as younger, as that's part of identity building, I was always told. But I meet a lot of people that want to be different, too, so that is odd as well.

[Miri1984]

@Ryzaki *lol* I didn't take that offensively. What I was trying to say is U R YOUNG, and I IZ OLD and when you're old you get cynical and ****y and start lying to your SOs.

I'm nursing my aching old limbs with red wine at the moment, so excuse my offensiveness .

[Jean]

99hunters wrote...

:U wut the i just looked the other way and there's even more pages
u guys are Awesome LoL


BTW i've been wondering how many layers of cloth does Anders wear any way
i still have no idea what his outfit looks like if he take out his green coat

i really want to know how all his cloths looks like... for drawing purposes of course...

I spent half an hour looking at him in game trying to figure out what hes supposed to be wearing. I think his brown coat thing is sleeveless, his boots are awesome and he wears green pants. I think the sleeves are attached to his shoulder pauldron things. Then he wears rags underneath all that. And a bib.

EDIT

I know his second outfit, his shoulder feathers are a blue black color, but is the rest of his outfit black or just a very dark green or have a green tint? I have a hard time telling such colors apart.

Modifié par Batteries, 31 mars 2011 - 05:06 .

[DeaHamlet]

Trophonius wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...

Trophonius wrote...

While we're on Fenris, I'm finding it extremely frustrating how he can't seem to appreciate anything I give to him. The book? 'Eh, I can't read" that sword? "Eh, this is fake".

Needless to say, I threw my hands up and gave up on him.

Friendmancing Fenris I offered to teach him how to read and he was super sweet about it.
He's very grumpy pants if he's a rival though.  Aveline is even worse grumpy pants as a rival.  She kept telling Hawke that Hawke doesn't trust her abilities as a guard captain.  WTF, I just stood up for you to Cullen and told Jeven to STFU and die.  I didn't let you talk, sure, but when did I seem like I doubt your abilities?
She confused me so much, I'm not trying that experiment again.  Though the fist fight was awesome!

No wonder he hates my stupid gifts. I was so busy trying to impress Anders that I've only recently noticed the 80% rivalry with Fenris. Why though, Fenris? Why can't you open up a little bit more? =(

And lol, Aveline gets a little intolerable by the end of Act 2. Especially when you're trying to set her up with Donnic. She tells you she's moved on from Wesley, but shoots daggers at you for selling his shield. I even recalled a time when she said, "I know we're not friends, Hawke" WTF?! So all this time playing matchmaker and creepily listening to your lovemaking meant nothing?

Fenris doesn't like you helping mages escape, dude.  Or dudette?
Cannot take Anders and Fenris on mage missions, one of them will hate you no matter what you do.

[Kawamura]

DeaHamlet wrote...

@Ryzaki
I don't actively TRY to be a loner, but I am always very happy to be alone and do my own thing. I welcome people in my life, but in general they have to get used to the fact that I don't particularly need them and I am not the type to consider their feelings 24/7. And people are my friends and come to me because they know I will give it to them straight up, no pretence, no sugar-coating.

So I guess I'm trying to say... I don't see how being cool with being alone is such a big thing.

That's ... not exactly alone? 

That's just taking a break from people for short periods of time. Alone alone would probably also include not interacting with people through the internet as well.

I know some people that can actually be alone for way longer than I see the norm be. They're ... not such healthy people, I've though.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Miri1984 wrote...

@Ryzaki I don't know how old you are, but "honesty above all else" in relationships just plain hasn't worked for me, so I don't go near it now. You can lie to people, and they can be perfectly aware that you're lying to them, but the fact that you care enough to do it is what matters.

It's kind of how I see that last quest with Anders. My Hawke knows full well he's lying, he knows she knows he's lying, but as long as they don't acknowledge it they can continue to be happy for a time. When all hell breaks loose, that's when they can yell at each other about it.

And honesty has worked for me so there you have it.

[Kawamura]

Batteries wrote...

99hunters wrote...

:U wut the i just looked the other way and there's even more pages
u guys are Awesome LoL


BTW i've been wondering how many layers of cloth does Anders wear any way
i still have no idea what his outfit looks like if he take out his green coat

i really want to know how all his cloths looks like... for drawing purposes of course...

I spent half an hour looking at him in game trying to figure out what hes supposed to be wearing. I think his brown coat thing is sleeveless, his boots are awesome and he wears green pants. I think the sleeves are attached to his shoulder pauldron things. Then he wears rags underneath all that. And a bib.

And more rags.

It's how he looks so bulky. It's like stuffing with a sock, but all over so you don't notice he hasn't been eating properly.

[DeaHamlet]

Ryzaki wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...

@Ryzaki
I don't actively TRY to be a loner, but I am always very happy to be alone and do my own thing. I welcome people in my life, but in general they have to get used to the fact that I don't particularly need them and I am not the type to consider their feelings 24/7. And people are my friends and come to me because they know I will give it to them straight up, no pretence, no sugar-coating.

So I guess I'm trying to say... I don't see how being cool with being alone is such a big thing.

I am very similar to you. And I don't see the big deal either. *shrugs* I just try to take people as they are. Everyone has their preferences and I'm fine with that. I

I'm not trying to tell anyone how they should feel damnit. 

Not the woobbie face!  Now you're making me want to give you a hug and that's just downright creepy and forward of me.

[99hunters]

DeaHamlet wrote...

@99hunters
Stop lying to yourself. You just wish the sex scene actually showed him getting undressed and such!
What next? Anders strip-tease?

Okay...now... my mind... is goneeeeeee.

Dammit how did you know!!

start imaging Ander slowly taking off his way way too many cloths... drools
ok... i'll be in ma bunk aka attemp to draw striping Anders...

[Ryzaki]

Miri1984 wrote...

@Ryzaki *lol* I didn't take that offensively. What I was trying to say is U R YOUNG, and I IZ OLD and when you're old you get cynical and ****y and start lying to your SOs.

I'm nursing my aching old limbs with red wine at the moment, so excuse my offensiveness .

Ah. Lulz. Sorry I am very young.

Young and naive. 

Not as bad as people say it is.  

I rather wish I could be naive on certain things again...

Kawamura wrote...

No. It's a good statement to make, I think. I don't have to meet everyone to be able to say everyone I've met has been a certain way. But I have met everyone I've met. And no one I've met has been particularly comfortable with being totally alone for a long-ish amount of time.  

I remember reading that adolescence is not just the physical growth. It's the identity finding process involved as well. But I'm not a psych person. It's info I remember from a very long time ago. But the desire to be different always strikes me as younger, as that's part of identity building, I was always told. But I meet a lot of people that want to be different, too, so that is odd as well.

Sorry. I took that statement to mean people in general not just those you knew. Urgh. I argue all over myself sometimes. Sorry about that. 

I think the desire to be different is tied in with a lot ofthings. I dunno. I don't want to be different as much as I want to be left the hell alone most of the time. As long as I have my friends the rest of the world can ignore me and I'm prefectly fine. 

Then again maybe I'm not a healthy well adjusted invidual. No big loss. *shrugs* If I'm insane. It's the best kind of insane there is. 

[Thiefy]

DeaHamlet wrote...

Trophonius wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...

Trophonius wrote...

While we're on Fenris, I'm finding it extremely frustrating how he can't seem to appreciate anything I give to him. The book? 'Eh, I can't read" that sword? "Eh, this is fake".

Needless to say, I threw my hands up and gave up on him.

Friendmancing Fenris I offered to teach him how to read and he was super sweet about it.
He's very grumpy pants if he's a rival though.  Aveline is even worse grumpy pants as a rival.  She kept telling Hawke that Hawke doesn't trust her abilities as a guard captain.  WTF, I just stood up for you to Cullen and told Jeven to STFU and die.  I didn't let you talk, sure, but when did I seem like I doubt your abilities?
She confused me so much, I'm not trying that experiment again.  Though the fist fight was awesome!

No wonder he hates my stupid gifts. I was so busy trying to impress Anders that I've only recently noticed the 80% rivalry with Fenris. Why though, Fenris? Why can't you open up a little bit more? =(

And lol, Aveline gets a little intolerable by the end of Act 2. Especially when you're trying to set her up with Donnic. She tells you she's moved on from Wesley, but shoots daggers at you for selling his shield. I even recalled a time when she said, "I know we're not friends, Hawke" WTF?! So all this time playing matchmaker and creepily listening to your lovemaking meant nothing?

Fenris doesn't like you helping mages escape, dude.  Or dudette?
Cannot take Anders and Fenris on mage missions, one of them will hate you no matter what you do.

that's actually not entirely true, i took them both everywhere and still got them up to max friendship. it really depends on mostly what you say them to during certainly scenes i think, because there was one instance where i got like +25 friendship? with Anders, it was HUGE. there were also several times i thought i would get rivalry with Fenris and didn't - what surprised me was when i went to help the qunari mage and had varric get rivalry but not fenris, so it really depends.

[kit___mythie]

DeaHamlet wrote...

@99hunters
Stop lying to yourself. You just wish the sex scene actually showed him getting undressed and such!
What next? Anders strip-tease?

Okay...now... my mind... is goneeeeeee.

We have a starting bid of 10 sovereigns.  Come on, you level 50s, I know you have the gold to spare. 

Although, I will say that Anders is a little too buff for an apostate mage. I saw the video one of you posted (using shirtless!Anders on the computer, I see what you did there lol), and I have to say, he's got a skinny man's back.  How would I know this?  I has a skinny man with a big nose (but minus the stubble and awesome half-ponytail).

So uhhh...could we get 12, 12 sovereigns for an Anders' strip-tease? xD

[Ryzaki]

DeaHamlet wrote...
Not the woobbie face!  Now you're making me want to give you a hug and that's just downright creepy and forward of me.

lulz. It's the internet. You're allowed to be somewhat creepy and forward. 

We're on here *some of us* drooling over a pixel character. That's pretty creepy to start with. 

[99hunters]

Batteries wrote...

99hunters wrote...

:U wut the i just looked the other way and there's even more pages
u guys are Awesome LoL


BTW i've been wondering how many layers of cloth does Anders wear any way
i still have no idea what his outfit looks like if he take out his green coat

i really want to know how all his cloths looks like... for drawing purposes of course...

I spent half an hour looking at him in game trying to figure out what hes supposed to be wearing. I think his brown coat thing is sleeveless, his boots are awesome and he wears green pants. I think the sleeves are attached to his shoulder pauldron things. Then he wears rags underneath all that. And a bib.

Thank you!!
i've tried to study his cloth too...then suddenly felt like a perv for trying to look up his robes...

[Kawamura]

Ryzaki wrote...

Sorry. I took that statement to mean people in general not just those you knew. Urgh. I argue all over myself sometimes. Sorry about that. 

I think the desire to be different is tied in with a lot ofthings. I dunno. I don't want to be different as much as I want to be left the hell alone most of the time. As long as I have my friends the rest of the world can ignore me and I'm prefectly fine. 

Then again maybe I'm not a healthy well adjusted invidual. No big loss. *shrugs* If I'm insane. It's the best kind of insane there is. 

There is sometimes this odd fetish for insanity. I can't imagine anyone actually wanting to use that word if they seriously feared it might be right.

.___.

Again. It's just... a weird sounding thing.

[Camilladilla]

Ryzaki wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...
Not the woobbie face!  Now you're making me want to give you a hug and that's just downright creepy and forward of me.

lulz. It's the internet. You're allowed to be somewhat creepy and forward. 

We're on here *some of us* drooling over a pixel character. That's pretty creepy to start with. 

Pfft, it's just another form of porn. Wait, that IS creepy.

[DeaHamlet]

Kawamura wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...

@Ryzaki
I don't actively TRY to be a loner, but I am always very happy to be alone and do my own thing. I welcome people in my life, but in general they have to get used to the fact that I don't particularly need them and I am not the type to consider their feelings 24/7. And people are my friends and come to me because they know I will give it to them straight up, no pretence, no sugar-coating.

So I guess I'm trying to say... I don't see how being cool with being alone is such a big thing.

That's ... not exactly alone? 

That's just taking a break from people for short periods of time. Alone alone would probably also include not interacting with people through the internet as well.

I know some people that can actually be alone for way longer than I see the norm be. They're ... not such healthy people, I've though.

Well, I have no choice but to contend with the boyfriend since we live together so I'm never really ALONE alone.
Oh but the internetz is such fun!
But I can say bugger off to internet sometimes too. And I guess the point remains... I am cool doing my own thing, I don't need people, not bad enough to lie to them.  If we disagree, we disagree.  I have to be all politeness and whatnots at work and school, I don't need all those white lies and crap with friends as well.  Meh.

I'm also 30.  I think that doesn't count as adolescence anymore

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Topic is getting too real.. Abort abort!