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[DeaHamlet]

Ryzaki wrote...

I had her grab Fenris once and taunt Hawke about holding the life of the one he loves in her hands.

I doubt it's going to happen with Anders since he's a ranged character.  Though he has this stupid ability to end up surrounded sometimes.  The demons just loveeeeeeee him.  Always have to move him manually.  I ought to check maybe I don't have him on ranged or something... 

[Miri1984]

It kind of depends on your LI being close enough for her to grab, actually. In my last playthrough she grabbed AVELINE (who was my BFF) and mocked her for not being able to protect the city. I was all GET OFFA MY FELLOW GINGER, YOU BLONDE BIATCH!

Since Anders is my "go vengeancy and kill everyone from afar" guy, he's never near enough for her to grab.

[Threeparts]

ipgd wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

Oh man, doing the Nathaniel quest with a GW'd Bethany was pretty much the first thing to crack my flippant, IDGAF sarcastic rogue's facade since her mother died. The way her adorable little sister acted was so hard for her.

I didn't know Bethany showed up for that quest as a GW. Is there a video of it somewhere?

Did a quick browse of YouTube and I couldn't see it up anywhere, sorry.

[nodice]

Threeparts wrote...

So. Completely off topic for the current conversation, but anything to divert another Friendship/Rivalry discussion, right?

Something I was thinking about was one of the banters that Aveline and Anders shared:

Anders: Your husband agrees with me.
Aveline: About what?
Anders: He thinks the knight-commander's mad. He told me she's gone behind your back to investigate guardsmen she suspects as secret mages.
Aveline: Even if that were true, he wouldn't tell you.
Anders: He won't fight for her when the time comes. Would you turn against your own husband?
Aveline: I don't know if you're lying or crazy.

Don't jump down my throat here, fellow Fanders, but... what if we found out that Anders was, indeed, lying? Or if his paranoia was worse than we've given him credit for?

His year in solitary, his story of the possessed cat, his belief that Alrik was a sexual sadist, his claims of being part of the mage underground: what if they were all either lies or delusions? What if we found out that he lied about his past just like Emile de Launcet in order to gain attention and infamy that was undeserved? Or that he actually believes the things he says due to grandiose or persecutory delusions?

What other things could he theoretically be lying about? If we start from the idea that nothing he says can be trusted without secondary confirmation, how does that change the character?

You raise an interesting point. I did, too, get a sort of paranoia feeling about him. Especially the whole "soon there won't be templars/anyone tearing us apart" thing. I was like  there's no one doing that right now... Hawke's Hawke, who could touch her? Besides, she was a warrior in that playthrough. He was talking like it would be good for the relationship to blow up stuff. 

I wouldn't be surprised if he was just going mad and seeing things. Wasn't maybe lying, I think he actually believed in what he said.

Also, good morning.

Modifié par nodice, 31 mars 2011 - 06:43 .

[DeaHamlet]

You can move Anders close to her if you really want to see if she does it, LOL.

[Ryzaki]

I liked Beth showing up to help me fight the mages as a GW. (Needed a healer at that point to so she was very much wanted). Her apologizing for being so nasty was kind of heartwarming. I wanted to hug her. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 31 mars 2011 - 06:44 .

[Trophonius]

Batteries wrote...

In taht final battle? I've only ever heard her mock Carver. It's hard to hear what she's saying unless you have a character really close to her too.

Yeah, I can't remember where, but someone mentioned that she says something about how Hawke would feel if someone they loved was taken away from them. I wish I could find the exact page it was on.

EDIT: So it only happens to Fenris? That's it, I'm going to have everyone on hold while I position Anders next to Meredith.

Modifié par Trophonius, 31 mars 2011 - 06:46 .

[Jean]

I had Anders right up on her trying to get a scene but it never happened. She died.

Modifié par Batteries, 31 mars 2011 - 06:48 .

[Ryzaki]

I love wearing anti stun equipment during that fight. She's yapping away and my Hawke (and Aveline) just keep landing blows wondering why she won't just shut up. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 31 mars 2011 - 06:46 .

[LT123]

DeaHamlet wrote...

You can move Anders close to her if you really want to see if she does it, LOL.

I actually tried that last playthough.

...I'm a bad person.

And it didn't work.

[leggywillow]

yukidama wrote...

I love the conversation with Carver after you do the whole Birthright quest. He gets told so badly and then when he's all "Brother...." I am like askjdjsakfdf you are such a dick but come here let me give you a noogie.

I let him become a Warden. I was surprised on my first playthrough when Anders volunteered to find the Wardens even though he was paranoid about them dragging him back. ;~;

The conversation Hawke has with Carver where Carver throws Bethany in Hawke's face (not literally) is my favorite video game dialogue ever.  It felt so real and awesome.  I love all the opportunities Hawke has to bicker or outright fight with their sibling or LI without feeling like you've ruined the relationship.  It's awesome.

And in the final battle I can't get Meredith to do anything cool.  D:  I DESPERATELY want her to do the sword thing with Anders.  I try to prolong the battle by focusing on the statues, I position Anders ludicrously close to her, and I even take control of Aveline during Meredith's monologues (so that stun-resistant badass doesn't keep whacking away at Meredith during her speeches... how rude, Aveline!)

[DeaHamlet]

It's not Anders's fault that Hawke has plot armor and Anders, as a mage, was not allowed to have a family unless he was on the run and hiding as an apostate. Mages & babies, frowned upon by the Chantry.
When Hawke is a mage, Anders is super worried about her being taken by templars and such. His speech at the end makes perfect sense whether Hawke is a mage or not. Anders as a mage would have never been allowed a family, a lover, a normal life.
And no, there's plenty of clear clues that he's not just imagining things. And I'm fairly certain Varric, who is telling the story, wouldn't just take Anders' word that stuff was going to hell in a handbasket and there was abuse.

[DeaHamlet]

Batteries wrote...

I had Aders right up on her trying to get a scene but it never happened. She died.

Attack the statues instead of her.  It prolongs the battle as they keep coming as long as she is alive.

[Camilladilla]

yukidama wrote...

Hm, the only thing I got is during the final battle she grabbed Fenris (when I was romancing him) and the caption was like "How does it feel knowing I hold the life of one you love in my hands?" but it glitched so Fenris was floating at her side lol.

EDIT: Lol, ninja'd.

Also, here's the pic of the glitch lol.

I like how WG looks almost like Fenris is sporting a new do.

Also the closest Meredith's ever came to threatening any of my party was uh... Aveline? It might be because everyone but my Hawke and Aveline were dead by that point XD

[Jean]

DeaHamlet wrote...

Batteries wrote...

I had Aders right up on her trying to get a scene but it never happened. She died.

Attack the statues instead of her.  It prolongs the battle as they keep coming as long as she is alive.

I did. She still died without doing anything.

[DeaHamlet]

I also think whoever it is needs to be attacking Meredith and accumulating some threat so she'll attack them. I never played the end battle with Aveline in my group so Fenris accumulated the most threat (except for me but I was too freaking far away for her to do anything about it).

[Koffeegirl]

Lol, just did the rival scene where you tell on Anders and Cullen really doesn't do anything. It was pretty funny though, although in my canon playthrough I normally friendmance Anders


Now off to bed..this thread keeps me up far too late-_-

Modifié par Koffeegirl, 31 mars 2011 - 06:56 .

[Trophonius]

DeaHamlet wrote...

I also think whoever it is needs to be attacking Meredith and accumulating some threat so she'll attack them. I never played the end battle with Aveline in my group so Fenris accumulated the most threat (except for me but I was too freaking far away for her to do anything about it).

This makes sense. Though, Anders tends to aggro in my game quite a bit, so I was hoping she'd at least go after him (sorry, Anders). Either way, by the time Anders gets close enough, Fenris, Cullen, Nathaniel, Zevran, and Aveline are already hacking her to pieces.

[DeaHamlet]

That's sad.
In my last game, they were all getting it on with the statues and only Fenris was on Meredith. Maybe it was because I kept locking on the statues and throwing stuff their way, I don't know. I don't know how much non-party members follow whatever it is that you do. I left Meredith alone until Zevran showed up and she grabbed Fenris about the same time.

I'll test it out when I do my canon playthrough and turn Anders' tactics to melee range "attack only bosses". Should be an interesting experiment... whenever I get to it. Probably not next playthrough.

[Sjofn]

leggywillow wrote...

The conversation Hawke has with Carver where Carver throws Bethany in Hawke's face (not literally) is my favorite video game dialogue ever.  It felt so real and awesome.  I love all the opportunities Hawke has to bicker or outright fight with their sibling or LI without feeling like you've ruined the relationship.  It's awesome.

I liked being able to pull a Carver on Aveline after Hawke's mom died. And I totally did (we were BFFs already so I didn't take a rivalry hit, which I think you would normally? Not sure.) on my ManHawke Mage playthrough, all "If you were BETTER at your JOB I'd still have a moooooom waaaaaaaaaah." I'm sure somewhere Carver was all OH WHAT IT'S OKAY FOR YOU TO DO THAT NOW.

[sassperella]

 So after killing my Hawke of over and over again  no distraught comment by Anders 

Has anyone got this on an Xbox or is it PC specific? .... or does Anders just not love my Hawke? 

[Ninche]

I never get any cries from Anders in general. I think the only one I've heard is "Merill is down" or something

Also I let Anders die like 5 times last night and Hawk didn't say ANYTHING at all

disfunctional those two, yeesh

[witchthief]

I like the one about 'that'll teach you to pick on a mage' or something similar...

[Ninche]

'some destructive powers of nature coming up'

[mellifera]

The "destructive forces of nature" line just sounds so wrong, lol. I'm too used to the Awakening version, and since he says "coming up" in DA2 instead of "coming right up" like before, it's a bit jarring. Then I just start thinking about how never in a million years I'd have thought I'd be fangirling over Anders and have to laugh at myself because srsly.