Modifié par Heidenreich, 01 avril 2011 - 05:10 .
YamiSnuffles wrote...
Aynslie wrote...
YamiSnuffles wrote...
I thought is the "Calling" Fiona/Maric theory was true, then Alistair was only 19-20 in Origins? That always made me figure Anders was at most 23-24ish in Awakening. He just didn't seem drastically more mature than Alistair to me.
I agree, Anders strikes me as early 20s in Awakening. 22-24 and no older than 32-35 by the end of DAII. Also was wondering if Fiona/Maric pairing was canon or just a theory as to Alistair's birth?
Well, the pairing itself is canon. They do get together and have a child. It's just speculation, though, if that child is Alistair or someone else.
Aynslie wrote...
shiba5 wrote...
Batteries wrote...
That's what I set Alistair at too, being about 20.YamiSnuffles wrote...
I thought is the "Calling" Fiona/Maric theory was true, then Alistair was only 19-20 in Origins? That always made me figure Anders was at most 23-24ish in Awakening. He just didn't seem drastically more mature than Alistair to me.
Maybe Justice aged him. Or, he doesn't get enough sleep now and just needs some cucumbers to get rid of those pesky dark circles under the eyes.
I immediately thought that he aged because of Justice. When you get obsessive like he is about feeing mages, lack of sleep, not eating well and all that stress will age the crap out of you. He does need a good spa treatment.
Heidenreich wrote...
Alistair is between 18 and 21. They're not EXACTLY clear, but roughly. The Human Noble Warden is also in this age range. Anders isn;t to much older. Much closer to 25 then the 30 most people are pegging him as at the start of Awakening.
Awakening comes off as only having been 2-3 months, maximum.So at the start of "year1-kirlwall" anders is like.. 26ish.
At least thats the vibe I get. older then Hawke, but not by very many years at all.
Threeparts wrote...
For me, his worldliness, confidence, healing ability and general knowledge just in Awakening strikes me as being quite a bit older than Alistair's 20-or-so years.
Different personalities account for some of it, Alistair being far more self-conscious and diffident, but given that they both grew up in similar circumstances - freedom for the first part of their lives, then handed over to a repressive institution - Anders strikes me as having more years to figure himself and the rest of the world out.
He states that Emile has no idea how to function in the real world, yet he himself probably spent more time in the Circle than out right up until he was recruited by the Wardens, and almost certainly not enough time to try and craft some semblance of a normal life. Hiding from Templars while still trying to have some fun isn't exactly a good snapshot of how ordinary people get on with their lives.
Modifié par Ninche, 01 avril 2011 - 05:22 .
Aynslie wrote...
Well we know that Sebastian is 22 at the beginning of DAII and 28 by the end. I pegged him as the youngest companion (besides Carver/Bethany) and age the rest using him as a "must be older than" starting point. I easily see Anders being 25 in the beginning, maybe 26, add 6 years and I get 31-32 years old at end-game. So by the time Cassandra is interrogating Varric I place Anders at 35-36, with Hawke just a few years younger.
Sialater wrote...
Threeparts wrote...
For me, his worldliness, confidence, healing ability and general knowledge just in Awakening strikes me as being quite a bit older than Alistair's 20-or-so years.
Different personalities account for some of it, Alistair being far more self-conscious and diffident, but given that they both grew up in similar circumstances - freedom for the first part of their lives, then handed over to a repressive institution - Anders strikes me as having more years to figure himself and the rest of the world out.
He states that Emile has no idea how to function in the real world, yet he himself probably spent more time in the Circle than out right up until he was recruited by the Wardens, and almost certainly not enough time to try and craft some semblance of a normal life. Hiding from Templars while still trying to have some fun isn't exactly a good snapshot of how ordinary people get on with their lives.
Exactly. Which I why he's mid to upper 20s for me pre-DA2.
Modifié par Aynslie, 01 avril 2011 - 05:32 .
Wasn't Sebastian 28 in act II? He says something like he hadn't been to Starkhaven in 15 years in an early conversation, and he mentions being given to the chantry at 13.Aynslie wrote...
Well we know that Sebastian is 22 at the beginning of DAII and 28 by the end. I pegged him as the youngest companion (besides Carver/Bethany) and age the rest using him as a "must be older than" starting point. I easily see Anders being 25 in the beginning, maybe 26, add 6 years and I get 31-32 years old at end-game. So by the time Cassandra is interrogating Varric I place Anders at 35-36, with Hawke just a few years younger.
SurelyForth wrote...
Besides Alistair, the only other age I know with any certainty is Nathaniel Howe, who is 30 in Awakening. Nate appears, and acts, older than Anders while Alistair appears the same age but acts a bit younger. So 24-25 for Awakening Anders just works for me.
Ninche wrote...
Miri1984 wrote...
@Ninche and Everyone, someone said there was dialogue saying that he says Justice is gone after the bombing (on friendship path, obviously, given what happens on the rivalry path). Is this true? If so, how do we get it?
Ohh please please let it exist! If it does - let's find it! I honestly feel like I could not find peace until I have a clear idea of what's going on with Hawke and Anders. Flemeth told us in the beginning: Without an end there can be no peace, and I'd like to avoid the kind of ending where I stab my partner of 3 years in the back and watch him die.
Modifié par Ashwraith, 01 avril 2011 - 05:36 .
ipgd wrote...
Wasn't Sebastian 28 in act II? He says something like he hadn't been to Starkhaven in 15 years in an early conversation, and he mentions being given to the chantry at 13.Aynslie wrote...
Well we know that Sebastian is 22 at the beginning of DAII and 28 by the end. I pegged him as the youngest companion (besides Carver/Bethany) and age the rest using him as a "must be older than" starting point. I easily see Anders being 25 in the beginning, maybe 26, add 6 years and I get 31-32 years old at end-game. So by the time Cassandra is interrogating Varric I place Anders at 35-36, with Hawke just a few years younger.
That does make Anders old. 
Modifié par Aynslie, 01 avril 2011 - 05:38 .
He must have been the worlds most adult 13 year old to have shamed his family with boozing and womanizing by the age of 13.ipgd wrote...
Wasn't Sebastian 28 in act II? He says something like he hadn't been to Starkhaven in 15 years in an early conversation, and he mentions being given to the chantry at 13.Aynslie wrote...
Well we know that Sebastian is 22 at the beginning of DAII and 28 by the end. I pegged him as the youngest companion (besides Carver/Bethany) and age the rest using him as a "must be older than" starting point. I easily see Anders being 25 in the beginning, maybe 26, add 6 years and I get 31-32 years old at end-game. So by the time Cassandra is interrogating Varric I place Anders at 35-36, with Hawke just a few years younger.
Modifié par Herr Uhl, 01 avril 2011 - 05:36 .
silver-crescent wrote...
Did anyone ever read the Hohlbein "Anders" books? They're really weird German fantasy/sci fi. I still have them in my bookshelf, so now whenever I look at it I see this
Taking fandom to a whole new level.
:wub:
Ashwraith wrote...
Miri1984 wrote...
@Ninche and Everyone, someone said there was dialogue saying that he says Justice is gone after the bombing (on friendship path, obviously, given what happens on the rivalry path). Is this true? If so, how do we get it?
I think it's more a case of 'Justice is gone because I am Justice';
in other words, the two of them have finally merged and now there
really is no distinction between their personalities. The entity calling
itself Justice no longer exists, but by the same token, neither does
the man named Anders. By encouraging him to accept what he is, you've
promoted synergy between the two. Kind of like how, if you rivalmance
him, you're encouraging Anders to think of Justice as seperate from
himself, thus encouraging more discordance between the two.
I'm still torn as to whether this is a good or a bad thing. With either path, really.
Modifié par leggywillow, 01 avril 2011 - 05:40 .
I don't think they ever mention the age he was taken to the circle in either DA:A or DA2. It was established in the pre-released short story as 12.Aynslie wrote...
In Awakening Anders was an adolescent when captured and brought to the Circle for the first time. So the first 12-13 years he was free. When aging Awakenings Anders we have to keep this in mind, hes spent close to half his life outside the circle. I believe in DAII they changed this tho? Made him 6 when dragged to the Circle. But when making Awakenings Anders they had in mind a mage who had a good idea of the outside world before being locked in the Circle.
He didn't actually take his vows until shortly before the events of DA2, I'm pretty sure. He was doing his womanizing while he was still an initiate.Herr Uhl wrote...
He
must have been the worlds most adult 13 year old to have shamed his
family with boozing and womanizing by the age of 13.
yukidama wrote...
A timely fanart, lol
*snip*
by syberfox
Herr Uhl wrote...
He must have been the worlds most adult 13 year old to have shamed his family with boozing and womanizing by the age of 13.
Ashwraith wrote...
Ninche wrote...
Miri1984 wrote...
@Ninche and Everyone, someone said there was dialogue saying that he says Justice is gone after the bombing (on friendship path, obviously, given what happens on the rivalry path). Is this true? If so, how do we get it?
Ohh please please let it exist! If it does - let's find it! I honestly feel like I could not find peace until I have a clear idea of what's going on with Hawke and Anders. Flemeth told us in the beginning: Without an end there can be no peace, and I'd like to avoid the kind of ending where I stab my partner of 3 years in the back and watch him die.
I think it's more a case of 'Justice is gone because I am Justice'; in other words, the two of them have finally merged and now there really is no distinction between their personalities. The entity calling itself Justice no longer exists, but by the same token, neither does the man named Anders. By encouraging him to accept what he is, you've promoted synergy between the two. Kind of like how, if you rivalmance him, you're encouraging Anders to think of Justice as seperate from himself, thus encouraging more discordance between the two.
I'm still torn as to whether this is a good or a bad thing. With either path, really.
...Am I making any sense here whatsoever? Sometimes I feel like I sit down at the keyboard and all that comes out is 'ASDFJKL;' *random gargling sounds*
Modifié par Kolotosa, 01 avril 2011 - 05:45 .
It's hard to decide. That's why it's great.Ashwraith wrote...
I think it's more a case of 'Justice is gone because I am Justice'; in other words, the two of them have finally merged and now there really is no distinction between their personalities. The entity calling itself Justice no longer exists, but by the same token, neither does the man named Anders. By encouraging him to accept what he is, you've promoted synergy between the two. Kind of like how, if you rivalmance him, you're encouraging Anders to think of Justice as seperate from himself, thus encouraging more discordance between the two.
I'm still torn as to whether this is a good or a bad thing. With either path, really.
...Am I making any sense here whatsoever? Sometimes I feel like I sit down at the keyboard and all that comes out is 'ASDFJKL;' *random gargling sounds*
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