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[signcherie]

I am one of the people who sees the Chantry as a military target.

The only other military target I can think of is the Gallows, and seeing as all the mages live there, I'm thinking its probably not going to be the best choice to blow up if your message is pro-mage.

Re: Sebastian. I didn't recruit him last playthrough, and I didn't miss him a bit. I like to imagine he got blown up with Elthina, but I don't think he did, since he disappeared in act 3. Elthina kept having conversations with his disembodied voice, though.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

yukidama wrote...

What got me was the "your precious Anders~~" thing, since the first thing I thought was "I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too!"

You too?

haha. At that point I was like, so long and thanks for all the quests.

[Miss Greyjoy]

shiba5 wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

shiba5 wrote...


Sebastian:  Elthina, NOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Jesus christ that no. I was totally like "oh, **** me, Anders" and then Sebastian did that and it was like, "oh, well, emotional moment over."

It's comedy gold to me. I'm sure they didn't mean it that way, but I can never tell with Bioware.

I hang my head and laugh every time. I don't THINK it's supposed to be funny, but it totally is.

[Ashwraith]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

LT123 wrote...

I'm pretty sure I said, "Bring it!" to my computer monitor when Seb went into the "coming after your precious Anders with an army" rant.

I'm pretty sure my middle finger was in the air.
Damn right, "my precious Anders".
And then he asks me if it were him in there would I be waffling? My answer: "No....I would've already let him live and we'd all be high fiving on our way to the Gallows by now."

Same here.
As soon as he asked me if I'd still be waffling, my first thought was "....Probably."
God I wish you could have killed Sebastian just then. It'd make more sense to kill him before he had the chance to become a threat, amirite?
But then, I had hardly used him as a companion up to that point, so I was kind of, "...Wait, who are you again?"

Christ, why couldn't he have been the Arishok.

Modifié par Ashwraith, 01 avril 2011 - 07:19 .

[ipgd]

shiba5 wrote...

Or, how about his question on whether you would still leave Anders alive if Seb had been in the Chantry that night? Leave Anders alive? Hell, I'd not only leave him alive, it'd be like Mardi gras out in the streets!

I wouldn't have partied, but by that point I was just like "come on, Sebastian, you've known my Hawke for years, you can't seriously think he would ever choose you over Anders. You don't even put out."

Mm, waffles.

Modifié par ipgd, 01 avril 2011 - 07:19 .

[Ashwraith]

....
Great. Now I have a monster craving for waffles. Thanks guys.

Modifié par Ashwraith, 01 avril 2011 - 07:20 .

[Anarya]

You go back to Starkhaven and get your army but you best come back bringing your A-game, son. *cracks knuckles*

Also my Hawke did not kill Anders, but she went home and changed their Facetome status to "it's complicated".

Modifié par Anarya, 01 avril 2011 - 07:21 .

[cleosilver]

Mxcl wrote...

shiba5 wrote...

LT123 wrote...

I'm pretty sure I said, "Bring it!" to my computer monitor when Seb went into the "coming after your precious Anders with an army" rant.

Why can't we have a star option to stabbity stab him right there so he can't come back to mardar us?

This. A thousand times this.

My Hawke actually liked Sebastian. She was disappointed at the end since she saw his threat to come back with an army just to kill Anders as yet another example of people confusing Justice with Vengeance.

[Kawamura]

LT123 wrote...

I'm pretty sure I said, "Bring it!" to my computer monitor when Seb went into the "coming after your precious Anders with an army" rant.

****, it's already been brought.

No, but my Hawke had super high brows, I guess, so the character animator did something hella funny. He looked like he was in the middle of sneezing or something.

[signcherie]

cleosilver wrote...



My Hawke actually liked Sebastian. She was disappointed at the end since she saw his threat to come back with an army just to kill Anders as yet another example of people confusing Justice with Vengeance.

A problem Sebastian's had since the beginning, I think.

[shiba5]

I thought Seb was mostly a milquetoast companion until the big boom. There I was trying to compose my thoughts when he became Mr-in-my-face-kill-Anders-now-now-now-NOW. Hey, notice my other companions know when to STFU? This means you too. After that I wanted to stab him, but he was wearing his plot armor.

[Anarya]

I did get a little tired of Seb's waffling. I liked him, but when he marched away angrily to raise his army I kind of thought "well good for him, at least he has certainty now".

[shiba5]

Anarya wrote...

I did get a little tired of Seb's waffling. I liked him, but when he marched away angrily to raise his army I kind of thought "well good for him, at least he has certainty now".

He found his "special purpose".

[signcherie]

shiba5 wrote...

I thought Seb was mostly a milquetoast companion until the big boom. There I was trying to compose my thoughts when he became Mr-in-my-face-kill-Anders-now-now-now-NOW. Hey, notice my other companions know when to STFU? This means you too. After that I wanted to stab him, but he was wearing his plot armor.

I know, right? Even Fenris only says something like, "He wants to die, kill him." And only after you ASK him.

[ipgd]

I probably wouldn't have killed Sebastian even if I had the option. I want him to come after Hawke with his army, so I can poop all over it and publically humiliate him. With waffles.

[signcherie]

Anarya wrote...

I did get a little tired of Seb's waffling. I liked him, but when he marched away angrily to raise his army I kind of thought "well good for him, at least he has certainty now".

Until next week, anyway.

[leggywillow]

cleosilver wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

shiba5 wrote...

So, now I'm wondering... are people missing that the Grand Cleric and Co. are in charge of the Templars? That would explain some of the terrorist talk.

It seems to me that there are two possibilities for Elthina.  One is that she has her own strong opinions and agendas and allows them to be served by willfully ignoring the duties demanded by her position.  The other is that she is truly an ineffectual ruler who would rather stick her head in the sand than fulfill her responsibilities.  So many problems could have been avoided if she had just done her job.

I got the feeling that she definitely had her own agenda but had to ensure she was percieved as neutral. I can easily see her saying "Who will bring me the heads of these troublesome Qunari" in Petrice's hearing for example.

Argh!  PLUS the fact that Petrice has been continuously preaching anti-Qunari propaganda for years! Elthina HAD to know that, and she just let it continue!  And if she didn't know that, then she simply sucks at her job.  So much for the Chantry being neutral, when you willingly allow your own people to stir the city into a frenzy that will only lead to war.  SHE HAD TO KNOW.

Damnit, Elthina.  The more I think about you, the more I absolutely hate you.

[Sialater]

ipgd wrote...

shiba5 wrote...

Or, how about his question on whether you would still leave Anders alive if Seb had been in the Chantry that night? Leave Anders alive? Hell, I'd not only leave him alive, it'd be like Mardi gras out in the streets!

I wouldn't have partied, but by that point I was just like "come on, Sebastian, you've known my Hawke for years, you can't seriously think he would ever choose you over Anders. You don't even put out."

Yeah.. at that point I was like, "You've known her for HOW LONG and you've not been sticking around at all (seriously, if you romance him, does he even comfort you after Leandra dies?) except to preach chantry gospel to an apostate mage.  Do you honestly think you're going to come out on top in this choice here?"

"Bring it."

Modifié par Sialater, 01 avril 2011 - 07:28 .

[Ashwraith]

signcherie wrote...

Anarya wrote...

I did get a little tired of Seb's waffling. I liked him, but when he marched away angrily to raise his army I kind of thought "well good for him, at least he has certainty now".

Until next week, anyway.

All he knows is, his gut says 'maybe'.

[Sialater]

Ashwraith wrote...

signcherie wrote...

Anarya wrote...

I did get a little tired of Seb's waffling. I liked him, but when he marched away angrily to raise his army I kind of thought "well good for him, at least he has certainty now".

Until next week, anyway.

All he knows is, his gut says 'maybe'.

Y'all owe my company a new monitor.  Coke 0 is not easy to clean out of speakers.

[leggywillow]

Oh, and the first time I got his waffling speech, I had to giggle.  The only quest I'd ever brought him on was his Repentance quest in Act 2 during my first playthrough, so as far I knew he and Hawke had only spoken to each other twice during 7 years.  Hawke's reaction was very much a confused "Dude, who are you again?  Why are you even here with my crew?"

[AndreaDraco]

I adore the moment when Sebastian marches away.

Run, little boy, run to Starkhaven. And oh, please: do come back!

I'll be waiting for you... *flames erupt from open palms*...

Have I already mentioned that I hate Sebastian Vael, The ******?

[Purposeof-Flight]

I'm working on an extremely fluffy fanfic right now.
Seriously, I stopped to read what I've written so far and my teeth began to ache. >.< lol

It has something to do with Anders....and some kittens. That's all I'm sayin'.

[highcastle]

ipgd wrote...

I probably wouldn't have killed Sebastian even if I had the option. I want him to come after Hawke with his army, so I can poop all over it and publically humiliate him. With waffles.

Don't forget this is Seb we're talking about. He spent 6 years talking about raising an army to avenge his actual family. How likely is it he'll really act this time? Or that anyone besides Flora Harriman will support him? Though I hope he tries. I think it makes for a good conflict, a former friend or rival hunting you down.

[LastFadingSmile]

leggywillow wrote...

Oh, and the first time I got his waffling speech, I had to giggle.  The only quest I'd ever brought him on was his Repentance quest in Act 2 during my first playthrough, so as far I knew he and Hawke had only spoken to each other twice during 7 years.  Hawke's reaction was very much a confused "Dude, who are you again?  Why are you even here with my crew?"

"You're only here 'cause I pre-ordered early, bro. Let's not read too much into things."