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[maselphie]

Jennifer Brandes Hepler wrote...

Yes, I did write the panting.

You win. Just everything, you win it.

As I've said before the cutscenes in this game are mind-blowing, and play a huge role in what's so special about it. With something like kissing, it is soooo easy to get wrong. Especially if you can't show the kiss, play it up with audio!

Man they were steamy, too. My sis was like WHAT ARE YOU PLAYING? And I'm like, AN RPG I SWEAR! And then she sat by my side and watched me play.

[Sialater]

leggywillow wrote...

Sialater wrote...
I think she calls him a "nice boy."

Hawke may have some issues.    In my husband's game, Bethany comments on how Anders reminds her of their father.  And Leandra inadvertently compares him to her dead husband.   Paging Dr. Freud....

Well, I don't think I can entirely blame Hawke for that.  The name "Malcolm" will always remind me of Malcolm Reynolds, after all... so Papa Hawke is a sexy, roguish, and all-around awesome dude in my head.  XD

He was an apostate, after all.  He aims to misbehave.

Probably looks like his son, too.

And heheh, that would explain Margaret Hawke's behavior.  She was daddy's little girl.

[Sable Rhapsody]

leggywillow wrote...

Sialater wrote...
I think she calls him a "nice boy."

Hawke may have some issues.    In my husband's game, Bethany comments on how Anders reminds her of their father.  And Leandra inadvertently compares him to her dead husband.   Paging Dr. Freud....

Well, I don't think I can entirely blame Hawke for that.  The name "Malcolm" will always remind me of Malcolm Reynolds, after all... so Papa Hawke is a sexy, roguish, and all-around awesome dude in my head.  XD

He was an apostate, after all.  He aims to misbehave.

Same here, actually.  Now if only they could get Nathan Fillion to play Papa Hawke...

I can't decide whether he'd be proud of his daugher and her crazy apostate boyfriend, or slightly horrified at the hijinks they get up to.  Probably a bit of both.

[Kim Shepard]

leggywillow wrote...

Sialater wrote...

And BTW, if you take the smartass/teasing options for that... it's even hotter.

Just... GUH.  ::appreciative inarticulate gibbering::  The first time I saw that I think my heart literally squeezed itself into goo.

Hawke: ::sexy voice:: How long before I drive you mad?
Anders: ::GLOMP::

(Answer: Not long, apparently.)

Note to self: choose the sarcasm dialogue.

Sialater wrote...

Hawke may have some issues.    In my husband's game, Bethany comments on how Anders reminds her of their father.  And Leandra inadvertently compares him to her dead husband.   Paging Dr. Freud....

I thought about that the first time I read Bethany's comment on the forums. Sweet, but just a little strange. Even more so if the mother points it out. xD I'm going with the "Hawke and her mother have the same taste in men" theory instead of the "Hawke is trying to replace her father" theory...

All this comparison of Anders to Hawke's father makes me wonder, did it ever say how he died? It wasn't an explosion of magical justice, was it? Because Hawke really should have seen that coming if it was.

[pagerunner]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

Oh I so agree, that look is gorgeous. I replayed it a couple of times to get the perfect screenshot. It's up there with this one for beautiful looks:

He has such lovely warm eyes.  And when he smiles or looks at Hawke all adoringly and his eyes light up...*melts*

Or when he looks at Hawke and his eyes LITERALLY light up....  cough.   


(It isn't often you can say that and actually mean it word for word. heh.)

[Sialater]

I think it was death by Darkspawn.

And yes, Kim, choose the sarcasm dialog.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Kim Shepard wrote...
It wasn't an explosion of magical justice, was it?

I'm sorry, that sentence just made me choke on my lunch 

And no, I don't think it's ever made clear how Malcolm died.  I assumed natural causes.

I was also terrified during the lily killer quest that the killer would turn out to be Malcolm or something, and that he just faked his own death and went crazy.  Thankfully that was not the case.

[leggywillow]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...
Same here, actually.  Now if only they could get Nathan Fillion to play Papa Hawke...

I can't decide whether he'd be proud of his daugher and her crazy apostate boyfriend, or slightly horrified at the hijinks they get up to. Probably a bit of both.

Yeah, my Kitty Hawke has a large Han Solo/Malcolm Reynolds streak, so I like to imagine her apostate dad was similar.  I think he'd be both proud and horrified.

Am I the only one who wants to write a Leandra/Malcolm fanfic now?

Kim Shepard wrote...
All this comparison of Anders to Hawke's father makes me wonder, did it ever say how he died? It wasn't an explosion of magical justice, was it? Because Hawke really should have seen that coming if it was.

No, it never says how he died.  I don't think it was anything flashy like being cornered by templars or exploding with demon-y justice.  In my head-canon, I imagine that he simply got sick (some kind of plague, maybe) and died.  Since my mages are never good healers, healing wasn't Mal's strong suit either so he couldn't heal himself and he refused to be taken to the Chantry or another healer for fear of risking his family.  Thus it's something that a militant pro-mage Hawke could ostensibly blame on the templars and mage oppression without being too cliche.

Modifié par leggywillow, 16 mars 2011 - 09:28 .

[YamiSnuffles]

I thought they mentioned him dying during the Blight? I remember it seeming weird to me since the way they talk about him it seemed like he'd been dead longer.

[Kim Shepard]

Sialater wrote...

I think it was death by Darkspawn.

And yes, Kim, choose the sarcasm dialog.

Poor Hawke, both her father and her sister. She must really hate the darkspawn by now. But I guess that makes it fitting to hook up with a Warden.

The sarcasm sounds awesome and in-character for my Hawke, so I'll definitely go for it.

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...
It wasn't an explosion of magical justice, was it?

I'm sorry, that sentence just made me choke on my lunch 

And no, I don't think it's ever made clear how Malcolm died.  I assumed natural causes.

I was also terrified during the lily killer quest that the killer would turn out to be Malcolm or something, and that he just faked his own death and went crazy.  Thankfully that was not the case.

Not a good idea to eat and watch the forums at the same time, is it? xD

Wow, that thought never entered my mind. I'm glad they didn't go that route. I like to think of Malcolm as a heroic kind of guy, even though we don't know much about him - not a blood mage who went insane in a bad way.

[Sarah1281]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

I thought they mentioned him dying during the Blight? I remember it seeming weird to me since the way they talk about him it seemed like he'd been dead longer.

The codex says he died three years before the game starts so I doubt it was darkspawn.

[Sialater]

Then hopefully it wasn't a long protracted illness. Or Templars.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Wait...I thought Malcolm died three years prior to the beginning of the DA2.  The darkspawn were starting to cause trouble that early on?  That's three years BEFORE Origins starts.

Kim Shepard wrote...

Wow, that thought never entered my mind. I'm glad they didn't go that route. I like to think of Malcolm as a heroic kind of guy, even though we don't know much about him - not a blood mage who went insane in a bad way.

Yeah, I'm glad too.  I got really freaked out when he started talking about Leandra's face, but realized it wasn't Malcolm.  I like to think of him as a heroic figure too for my Hawke; she was daddy's little prodigy mage.  Poor Carver...such the unfavorite.

[nodice]

SurelyForth wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

Well, one could argue that he is being selfish when he asks Hawke to help him and is willing to claim that she despises him and the cause if she says no, when all she wants is to know. I think Sebastian is arguing from the perspective of someone who has been observing Hawke's life and if Merrill has noticed that Anders hurt Hawke by blackmailing her, then surely others have, too. 

Woah, when does this happen? o_o

It's emotional blackmail. If you refuse to distract the Grand Cleric because he won't tell you why, he rails on about how you can't say you love him if you despise his cause, because that's all he is. When you do accept, you can tell him you'll do it but you won't forget how he blackmailed you into it. I wouldn't use that word, but the moment I found out about how everything went down, that's all I could think of. He tricks Hawke into helping with the first part, and then he railroards her into the last thing. It's pretty manipulative and my Hawke thought it was patently unfair considering how much she'd done up until that point. She just wanted an explanation and she found out how quickly he could turn on her the moment he thought she wasn't with him 100%.

Not his best moment, tbh.

My thoughts exactly. Anders sleeps on the couch after this. With DOG.

Never date a political activist. His causes are always more important than any relationship. It would take a lot for Hawke to abandon her own morale for the man she loves (which she does a lot in the game, 99% of all mages are blood mages and such), and support the person who lied to her, but she does it anyway. Doesn't seem like a healthy way to build a relationship on.

[YamiSnuffles]

Man, I'm so confused. I'll just try not to think about how Malcom died.

Hmm, but speaking of Hawke's family/background, if you romanced Anders how did your class change your romance? I mean, the way you played it. I was a femHawke warrior. As a warrior, I was already apt to be protective of my teammates, but doubly so of my mages. So she started as the really protective older sister with Bethany, and then some sort of anti-Templar; a warrior fighting for mages instead of against them.

Then, in the more innocent days of Act 2 romance, I remember feeling a little guilty when Leandra starts suggesting Hawke marry off to some noble. Even though mama Hawke had run off with an apostate herself, it was clear she missed the noble lifestyle. I felt bad that I, the last child that really could, wouldn't ever be able to give her what she wanted.

Ah for the days when my Lady Hawke's biggest concern in the romance was making her mom proud. ='(

[Sarah1281]

I have to admit, I love the Carver-Anders dialogue, particularly the "It's shameful to hate someone because they're a mage" conversation. I did feel sorry for Carver, though. Anders just doesn't get it...

[Sarah1281]

Then, in the more innocent days of Act 2 romance, I remember feeling a little guilty when Leandra starts suggesting Hawke marry off to some noble. Even though mama Hawke had run off with an apostate herself, it was clear she missed the noble lifestyle. I felt bad that I, the last child that really could, wouldn't ever be able to give her what she wanted.

Do you think she was really all that serious about it? I figured she was just idly musing about the future. Note she doesn't seem at all upset when she when she notices you romancing someone else.

[Sable Rhapsody]

nodice wrote...
My thoughts exactly. Anders sleeps on the couch after this. With DOG.

Never date a political activist. His causes are always more important than any relationship. It would take a lot for Hawke to abandon her own morale for the man she loves (which she does a lot in the game, 99% of all mages are blood mages and such), and support the person who lied to her, but she does it anyway. Doesn't seem like a healthy way to build a relationship on.

It only works out well if Anders convinces you of his cause.  Which he did for my Hawke.  

Anders gave her hope.  All her life, my mage Hawke was convinced that the best she could do was avoid the templars.  She never fought--just ran and hid and kept her head down so she and her sister could stay safe.  And then she met Anders, and everything changed.  If you play an apostate, he asks you if every mage doesn't deserve the freedom that you've had your whole life.  He gave her hope that they COULD fight, that one day she wouldn't have to run because there would be no templars to give chase.  

And then he blew up a church, and the two of them ran off to be apostate Bonnie and Clyde together.  Again, both adorable and terrifying.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

yukidama wrote...

Jennifer Brandes Hepler wrote...

Yes, I did write the panting. And Adam was absolutely amazing at all the emotional stuff. I think he deserves a lot of the credit for bringing the new Anders to life. Also kuddos to Jon Epp who did the cinematic design on the kiss scene. I was pretty blown away myself at how well that came together.

Hahahaha, the first sentence of this post might be the funniest thing I've read all day. Anyway, much props to all, it definitely came together well.

I know, right? Never thought I'd read those words in that order. Probably never will again.

Well done to everyone involved

[Sialater]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

nodice wrote...
My thoughts exactly. Anders sleeps on the couch after this. With DOG.

Never date a political activist. His causes are always more important than any relationship. It would take a lot for Hawke to abandon her own morale for the man she loves (which she does a lot in the game, 99% of all mages are blood mages and such), and support the person who lied to her, but she does it anyway. Doesn't seem like a healthy way to build a relationship on.

It only works out well if Anders convinces you of his cause.  Which he did for my Hawke.  

Anders gave her hope.  All her life, my mage Hawke was convinced that the best she could do was avoid the templars.  She never fought--just ran and hid and kept her head down so she and her sister could stay safe.  And then she met Anders, and everything changed.  If you play an apostate, he asks you if every mage doesn't deserve the freedom that you've had your whole life.  He gave her hope that they COULD fight, that one day she wouldn't have to run because there would be no templars to give chase.  

And then he blew up a church, and the two of them ran off to be apostate Bonnie and Clyde together.  Again, both adorable and terrifying.

DAMMIT ANDERS.  

[maselphie]

If you play a mage, even Carver is like "hmm mages hmmm" and some of your party members are singing the same tune. But yes, it felt good to have Anders agree with me about my mage's struggle, when I was wondering whether or not my own brother would strike me down.

And OMG you guys. I think the moment I decided to go for Anders over Fenris in my first playthrough was when talking to Thrask outside the cave, Anders' only response is to smile at you. I was like, you and me. Right now.

[Thaedriel]

I'm usually a lurker, but I have to agree with the poster who said Jennifer Hepler wins everything.

Just looking at the *screenshots* makes my heart flop. :X

I was blown away by the kiss, like everyone else, but the little things that really melted me were that silent smile during the quest to rescue the mages in the cave, and Anders comforting Hawke after her mother died. My Hawke blamed herself, and Anders' response was amazing. Especially considering that Leandra had furiously blamed my Hawke for Carver's death, these lines were especially poignant:

Anders: Your mother wouldn't want you to blame yourself.
Hawke: You don't know my mother!
Anders: Yes, and I'm sorry I never will.

Hot damn that is sweet. He's like a baby-Jesus-kitten made of cotton candy. OMG.

Also, kudos to Adam Howden for doing some incredibly difficult lines and knocking it out of the park.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Sialater wrote...

DAMMIT ANDERS.  

Yep.  That pretty much sums it up.

I think my catchphrase for Dragon Age in general is "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."  It happened with my Warden, and again with my Hawke.

[Sable Rhapsody]

maselphie wrote...

And OMG you guys. I think the moment I decided to go for Anders over Fenris in my first playthrough was when talking to Thrask outside the cave, Anders' only response is to smile at you. I was like, you and me. Right now.

I didn't get that my first playthrough.  I'm doing a second playthrough, and I literally squeed when I saw that.

I was pretty ambivalent on whether I was going for Anders or Fenris.  Then I walked into Anders' clinic, and their eyes met, and I knew it was Anders.  The chemistry between him and my Hawke was insane.  You could've powered a city with all the sexual tension.

[YamiSnuffles]

Sarah1281 wrote...

Then, in the more innocent days of Act 2 romance, I remember feeling a little guilty when Leandra starts suggesting Hawke marry off to some noble. Even though mama Hawke had run off with an apostate herself, it was clear she missed the noble lifestyle. I felt bad that I, the last child that really could, wouldn't ever be able to give her what she wanted.

Do you think she was really all that serious about it? I figured she was just idly musing about the future. Note she doesn't seem at all upset when she when she notices you romancing someone else.

Well, I didn't think she'd hate me or anything. I suppose part of it came from the fact that she never commented on me romancing him. She would constantly mention me meeting so-and-so's son or such, but not a peep about Anders. Also, both her and Bethany talk quite a bit about what it would be like to live the good life, so to speak.

Anyhoo, it wasn't a huge concern or anything. Just in my more optimistic days, I had hoped providing her with a comfortable life would cushion the blow of me running off with my crazed, possessed boyfriend (because I never saw settling down in that house).