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[Amondra]

LupusYondergirl wrote...

I could never look at Anders' jacket the same way after that quest... or Varric's comment about his feathered pauldrons and the moody rebel mage persona.

Varric: So, Anders... I notice your jacket is getting a bit patchy.
Anders: Pardon?
Varric: You know, your little rebel coat. The pauldrons aren't as... lush as they once were.
Anders: It's an old jacket. And I live in a sewer, in case you've forgotten.
Varric: Sure. *pause* So, tell me, is it patchy because you got Hawke to... "use the feather"?
Anders: *sigh* You know, sometimes you're almost as bad as Isabela.
Varric: Sometimes?

What?!  Is that really in game  I have never gotten it!

[DeaHamlet]

@Ryzaki

I totally got Carver killed on my Fenris rivalmance. It was totally worth telling Fenris that I will always be there to protect him. He's always saving my mage's life even though she drives him crazy, it was great getting to be the hero and rescue him for once.
I am ridiculously mushy.

Yeah, at least Gascard I can choose to kill.
But then again, I don't even get to tell Seb off properly or crush him with my spells so... I guess life just isn't fair in Bioware games

[DeaHamlet]

All my Hawkettes are equal opportunity ladies. Meaning everyone gets a turn with the feather, it's only fair!

LOL

[Sable Rhapsody]

DeaHamlet wrote...

Yeah, at least Gascard I can choose to kill.
But then again, I don't even get to tell Seb off properly or crush him with my spells so... I guess life just isn't fair in Bioware games

Seriously, can't you just chuck the murder knife at him instead in The Last Straw?  Not that I don't like Seb--I do--but something tells me that my maleficar Hawke who romanced Anders was not going to let him just stroll away.

Oh well.  That's what super-depressing fanfiction is for.

[CatOfEvilGenius]

DeaHamlet wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

There is no pain or suffering involved in being Tranquil. Maybe the process of being made Tranquil hurts but aside from that...horrorifying fates are not always torture.

You are correct, my apologies for using the word incorrectly.  Let's just say at least Anders sees being tranquil as WORSE than death.  So in Anders case, tranquil is about as bad as Fenris going back to being a slave to a magister. (snip)

Perhaps what was meant is that the ever present threat of being made Tranquil is torture to those imprisoned in the Circle.  I can see that.  I would develop heart trouble just thinking about it.

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Sable wrote:
I do think it's funny how no one ever calls out a blood mage Hawke.

Yes, no one ever calls out Hawke on being a blood mage!  This really irks me.  I *want* Anders to get upset about it!  It's very jarring when he doesn't, especially after all the grief he gives Merrill!  I'm also irked by his banter with Fenris, when he says he never met a mage who wanted power.  It's like all of Tevinter doesn't even exist for Anders.  He has truly astounding powers of rationalization and denial.  And yet, I want to hug him.  Oh, BioWare writers!  *shakes fist*

Modifié par CatOfEvilGenius, 03 avril 2011 - 12:47 .

[sassperella]

CatOfEvilGenius wrote...

LadyVaJedi wrote...

HEHHE! True it would be a hoot to watch a drunk Justice.

You sure?  I think Vengeance would be a freaking scary drunk, throwing things and bashing in heads. XD

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Avaline Facetome WIN!

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Does Anders ever have jealous reactions if you cheat while romancing him?  If I recall, they were not yet at 100% rivalry in their rivalmance, but I may be mistaken.  Even if rivaly is locked at 100%, I would still expect angry dialogue!

He did ask my evil femHawke about concurrent relations with Fenris, but he swallowed her lie that nothing happened.  Oh, gullible Anders!

He did not react even slightly to Hawke methodically working her way through all the male and "male" employees of the Blooming Rose, right in front of him!  He just leaned in the doorway nonchalantly while Hawke zipped up her pants!  I'd expect that from Isabela, but not Anders.

He didn't care when Hawke rode Jethan like the village bicycle that he is, during First Sacrifice.  Again, nonchalant doorway leaning.  I wanted a disappointed or angry comment!  Something!

He also had no comment about her dalliance with Zevran.  Granted, he wasn't in the party at the time, but I thought companions were omniscient or heard gossip from others or something.

Why is it Fenris will dump Hawke for snuggling Isabela while they were "on a break", but Anders is blind to flagrant cheating right in front of him?  O.o

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Ashwraith wrote:

And one of Anders' dialogues with Sebastian suggests this kind of thing is common. I think I'm going to be sick.

Very sickening, yes, but it is not as common as Anders fears.  More common in Kirkwall than elsewhere because Meredith is off her rocker, but still not very common.  Even Cullen, who has some mental scars from his trauma in the Ferelden Circle and thinks Tranquility is great, doesn't favor Alrik's "Tranquil Solution".  While there is a real and severe problem in Kirkwall, and to a lesser extent all over Thedas, Anders would have Hawke believe it is even worse than it actually is.  (I'm all for repeated stomping of Ser Alrik.)

many many pages ago sry one of the disadvantages of living in Aus and sleeping while you guys write.

About the Cullen and Alrik thing, if you show Cullen Alrik's papers you get a conversation that leads to you saying "You sound like you support this plan" and Cullen basically says he does.

[Amondra]

CatOfEvilGenius wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

There is no pain or suffering involved in being Tranquil. Maybe the process of being made Tranquil hurts but aside from that...horrorifying fates are not always torture.

You are correct, my apologies for using the word incorrectly.  Let's just say at least Anders sees being tranquil as WORSE than death.  So in Anders case, tranquil is about as bad as Fenris going back to being a slave to a magister. (snip)

Perhaps what was meant is that the ever present threat of being made Tranquil is torture to those imprisoned in the Circle.  I can see that.  I would develop heart trouble just thinking about it.

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Yes, no one ever calls out Hawke on being a blood mage!  This really irks me.  I *want* Anders to get upset about it!  It's very jarring when he doesn't, especially after all the grief he gives Merrill!  I'm also irked by his banter with Fenris, when he says he never met a mage who wanted power.  It's like all of Tevinter doesn't even exist for Anders.  He has truly astounding powers of rationalization and denial.  And yet, I want to hug him.  Oh, BioWare writers!  *shakes fist*

I think he says that because he hasn't been to Tevinter and met anyone there.  At one point Fenris points out that Tevinter take mage slaves, and only the ones who use blood magic rise to power.  Anders sounds hurt and shuts up about it. Not all mages are horrid there but those ones end up dead or slaves it seems.

[Sarah1281]

About the Cullen and Alrik thing, if you show Cullen Alrik's papers you get a conversation that leads to you saying "You sound like you support this plan" and Cullen basically says he does.

I think Cullen says that he approves of more wide-spread use of the Rite of Tranquility (and he sounds like he thinks those who view it as worse than death are being melodramatic) but certainly not making every mage in Kirkwall Tranquil. He's the sane one, remember? Even Meredith isn't on board with this.

[sassperella]

He says something like "There's certainly a case for making it's use more widespread" or something like that.

[Purposeof-Flight]

Cullen? Sane?
Bahahah shows you how dysfunctional Kirkwall is.
The man was bat**** crazy in Ferelden. And should be trying to kill every mage in sight after what the blood mages did to him. Especially since he had a massive crush on my mage in Origins.

[DeaHamlet]

What? Nobody is sane in Kirkwall, I swear.
They're all wearing crazy pants. Or underwear that's too tight or something.

[Sable Rhapsody]

CatOfEvilGenius wrote...
Yes, no one ever calls out Hawke on being a blood mage!  This really irks me.  I *want* Anders to get upset about it!  It's very jarring when he doesn't, especially after all the grief he gives Merrill!  I'm also irked by his banter with Fenris, when he says he never met a mage who wanted power.  It's like all of Tevinter doesn't even exist for Anders.  He has truly astounding powers of rationalization and denial.  And yet, I want to hug him.  Oh, BioWare writers!  *shakes fist*

The game's never straight on whether you need to bargain with a demon to use blood magic.  Anders seems to imply that you can cut yourself and just learn to tap into blood when he talks to Merrill, but then he does a 180 talking to Fenris about how blood mages have to bargain with demons for their powers.

Since Irving leaves books on blood magic lying around in the Circle, and I highly doubt Jowan has the cajones to strike a deal with a demon, I'm inclined to think that you CAN learn blood magic without consulting a demon--either from another blood mage, from books, or just from experimenting.  I figure my blood mage probably learned it after Malcolm died, to help protect her family, and just realized she was really good at it.

[DeaHamlet]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

Cullen? Sane?
Bahahah shows you how dysfunctional Kirkwall is.
The man was bat**** crazy in Ferelden. And should be trying to kill every mage in sight after what the blood mages did to him. Especially since he had a massive crush on my mage in Origins.

Cullen should be happy he had his plot armor on.
My warden was not amused, not one bit.  Good thing there was an archdemon to slay or else...

[AndreaDraco]

TripLight wrote...


Edit TOP: Because Anders expression is just that good.

Priceless

[DeaHamlet]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

CatOfEvilGenius wrote...
Yes, no one ever calls out Hawke on being a blood mage!  This really irks me.  I *want* Anders to get upset about it!  It's very jarring when he doesn't, especially after all the grief he gives Merrill!  I'm also irked by his banter with Fenris, when he says he never met a mage who wanted power.  It's like all of Tevinter doesn't even exist for Anders.  He has truly astounding powers of rationalization and denial.  And yet, I want to hug him.  Oh, BioWare writers!  *shakes fist*

The game's never straight on whether you need to bargain with a demon to use blood magic.  Anders seems to imply that you can cut yourself and just learn to tap into blood when he talks to Merrill, but then he does a 180 talking to Fenris about how blood mages have to bargain with demons for their powers.

Since Irving leaves books on blood magic lying around in the Circle, and I highly doubt Jowan has the cajones to strike a deal with a demon, I'm inclined to think that you CAN learn blood magic without consulting a demon--either from another blood mage, from books, or just from experimenting.  I figure my blood mage probably learned it after Malcolm died, to help protect her family, and just realized she was really good at it.

It's super confusing, that's what it is.
I also remember a discussion where blood magic was touted as the only safe magic because it doesn't involve calling on spirits (like spirit healing does) or using mana (aka lyrium).  Or at least the only pure magic that doesn't involve spirits or demons or the fade.
But then they did a 180 in DA2 and that's all out the window.
Someone at work suggested that perhaps learning basic blood magic can be done without deals with demons, but anything more advanced involves demons (like stealing people's HP...). But then again, I don't see what the difference is between mana leech and HP leech *shrug*.
I think even Bioware can't seem to make up their minds about it.  In DA:O you had to make a deal with a demon to learn blood magic, here you just click in the menu.

[Anarya]

Amondra wrote...

yukidama wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Mmmyeah Team Man-harem.

*slaps Anarya*

That is the fail harem.

The truly great one is where that Sebastian fellow is kicked into a ditch and replaced with the Paragon of Manliness.

Seriously why have Seb, when you got Varric?

Because Seb is hot and dat accent. But I love my Little Man too (more than Seb)! Spoilt for choice, we are.

[Miri1984]

Awww, I feel the need to defend Cullen a little bit. He only went bat**** insane in Origins if certain things were done. And at the end of the Circle Tower quest he HAS just been imprisoned and tortured for months, it's kind of understandable that he would be all "KILL THEM ALL THEY ARE EVIL" at least for a little while.

The conversation you have with him about Ferelden in the Gallows Courtyard in Act 1 is actually really sad. He tells you what happened to him and I just want to hug him.

[CatOfEvilGenius]

sassperella wrote...

(snip)

many many pages ago sry one of the disadvantages of living in Aus and sleeping while you guys write.

About the Cullen and Alrik thing, if you show Cullen Alrik's papers you get a conversation that leads to you saying "You sound like you support this plan" and Cullen basically says he does.

That is not how I remember it.  Wish I had a video of that talk, or a transcript.  Cullen says the Tranquility ritual is a merciful alternative to killing mages who can't pass the Harrowing.  He isn't bothered by it.  Might want it applied more widely.  However, I don't think he supports *forcing* Tranquility on *all* mages.

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Miri1984 wrote:

Awww, I feel the need to defend Cullen a little bit. He only went
bat**** insane in Origins if certain things were done. And at the end of
the Circle Tower quest he HAS just been imprisoned and tortured for
months, it's kind of understandable that he would be all "KILL THEM ALL
THEY ARE EVIL" at least for a little while.

The conversation you
have with him about Ferelden in the Gallows Courtyard in Act 1 is
actually really sad. He tells you what happened to him and I just want
to hug him.

This.  DA:O Cullen reacts like most would to torture.  DA:II Cullen has had time to heal and is more reasonable (though still quite radical).  Still, very wise of Greagoir to send him to a different Circle.  No sane person would expect Cullen to act right in the Ferelden Circle with his mental scars.  Shows just how wacked Meredith is, when Cullen (!!!) is the sane one.

Modifié par CatOfEvilGenius, 03 avril 2011 - 01:00 .

[DeaHamlet]

It's telling that I hate Seb... everyone else gets at least 5 different weapon choices in my inventory at all times, for different situations. Seb gets one, at most, and after he gets his grandpa's bow, I sell any bow I find. LOL.

[Shaleene]

Sarah1281 wrote...

About the Cullen and Alrik thing, if you show Cullen Alrik's papers you get a conversation that leads to you saying "You sound like you support this plan" and Cullen basically says he does.

I think Cullen says that he approves of more wide-spread use of the Rite of Tranquility (and he sounds like he thinks those who view it as worse than death are being melodramatic) but certainly not making every mage in Kirkwall Tranquil. He's the sane one, remember? Even Meredith isn't on board with this.

Yeah he thinks they should use it more often but doesn't think they should do it to EVERYONE.. cause if you choose templars at the end, he pleads his case to spare some of the mages.

[Anarya]

Oh and Re: Anders' face at the "felicitation", that looks less like a "How come Hawke never does that for me?" face and more like a "Ooh I remember last Thursday night when..." face to me.

[DeaHamlet]

Anarya wrote...

Oh and Re: Anders' face at the "felicitation", that looks less like a "How come Hawke never does that for me?" face and more like a "Ooh I remember last Thursday night when..." face to me.

HAHAHA.  Yes.

[TripLight]

Anarya wrote...

Oh and Re: Anders' face at the "felicitation", that looks less like a "How come Hawke never does that for me?" face and more like a "Ooh I remember last Thursday night when..." face to me.

*hauls arse out*

[Shaleene]

TripLight wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Oh and Re: Anders' face at the "felicitation", that looks less like a "How come Hawke never does that for me?" face and more like a "Ooh I remember last Thursday night when..." face to me.

*hauls arse out*

Thank you just the image I needed right before bed!! UGH I HATE YOU!

[DeaHamlet]

Olala.

I'm supposed to be fixing my research paper, why am I still here?
Oh yeah, for the sexual innuendo and Anders pics.