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[nyxocity]

payroo wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

Ambeth wrote...

So.... Take Anders 'three times a day'  'Every four hours' and "????" times 365 days (a full year).  then 'Take as needed'.

Not sure about the 'h.s.' but I assume it's along the same lines?

"h.s." is at bedtime.

So the p.r.n. at the end has nothing to do with porn? 

The real question is, is Anders a suppository or do you just swallow him?


...ok, I'll stop now.

*LOL* I think he could go either way.

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I <3 that desktop.

Modifié par thenyxie, 04 avril 2011 - 08:51 .

[ReallyRue]

Threeparts wrote...

I figure her anger and frustration was what a lot of my Hawke's snark and flippancy was hiding.

By Act III she simply didn't care about anything going on in Kirkwall anymore. She was being lied to, manipulated, pushed around, and used as a pawn, both by people she trusted and people she hated, and she was jack of it. She didn't care who she upset, who she angered, because at that point she just wanted to get off the damn crazy-train.

I totally understand where the above poster is coming from with their Hawke feeling relieved that things finally came to a head and they could leap into action and come to some kind of ending, instead of being tossed around by events. I know my Hawke finds sitting on her hands the hardest thing to do when she's raging inside that something, anything must change.

She's a total Gemini. 

That sounds a lot like my aggressiveHawke. My other one uses excessive and inappropriate humour to try and cover up the fact that she doesn't know what to do and doesn't like being stuck alone in the middle of other people's fights. So she makes fun of them instead and comes out with oddball things that make no sense. If the world around her is full of crazy and makes no sense, she might as well live in her own.

[Mxcl]

payroo wrote...
The real question is, is Anders a suppository or do you just swallow him?


...ok, I'll stop now.

I... you... he...it. I NEED TO BE ALONE NOW!

[Amondra]

Miri1984 wrote...

So, I went straight to the Gallows in Act III this time around and guess what? Ser Kerras says that Meredith has asked for the Rite of Annulment STRAIGHT AWAY. That means for the whole of Act III the mages are sitting in the Gallows with doom over their heads BEFORE the Seb/Leliana mission, so when you're talking to the Grand Cleric trying to distract her from Anders planting the bomb that will kill her she KNOWS FULL WELL that Meredith is trying to kill all the mages and she STILL sits on her arse and does nothing.

I only wish she could be blown up TWICE.

To bad there isn't a rewind then you could play it again, not the same feeling, but hey what can you do.

[nyxocity]

Miri1984 wrote...

So, I went straight to the Gallows in Act III this time around and guess what? Ser Kerras says that Meredith has asked for the Rite of Annulment STRAIGHT AWAY. That means for the whole of Act III the mages are sitting in the Gallows with doom over their heads BEFORE the Seb/Leliana mission, so when you're talking to the Grand Cleric trying to distract her from Anders planting the bomb that will kill her she KNOWS FULL WELL that Meredith is trying to kill all the mages and she STILL sits on her arse and does nothing.

I only wish she could be blown up TWICE.

If Anders knew this... this would explain why he's changed so much in Act III. I can't believe that never occurred to me before. 

[leggywillow]

payroo wrote...
The real question is, is Anders a suppository or do you just swallow him?


...ok, I'll stop now.

Anders comes in many, many dosage forms.  ::wink::

(On another note, I made suppositories in lab last semester.  Fun stuff.  Couldn't talk anyone into testing them out, though.)

[Sable Rhapsody]

Amondra wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

So, I went straight to the Gallows in Act III this time around and guess what? Ser Kerras says that Meredith has asked for the Rite of Annulment STRAIGHT AWAY. That means for the whole of Act III the mages are sitting in the Gallows with doom over their heads BEFORE the Seb/Leliana mission, so when you're talking to the Grand Cleric trying to distract her from Anders planting the bomb that will kill her she KNOWS FULL WELL that Meredith is trying to kill all the mages and she STILL sits on her arse and does nothing.

I only wish she could be blown up TWICE.

To bad there isn't a rewind then you could play it again, not the same feeling, but hey what can you do.

Yeah...I remember getting that line from Ser Kerras.  It's a good thing I wasn't holding anything, or I might have broken it.  I didn't get it until my most recent playthrough, and it changed the entire tone of Act 3 for me.  Suddenly it felt a lot less tragic and a lot more inevitable, like a race against the clock.

[ReallyRue]

thenyxie wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

So, I went straight to the Gallows in Act III this time around and guess what? Ser Kerras says that Meredith has asked for the Rite of Annulment STRAIGHT AWAY. That means for the whole of Act III the mages are sitting in the Gallows with doom over their heads BEFORE the Seb/Leliana mission, so when you're talking to the Grand Cleric trying to distract her from Anders planting the bomb that will kill her she KNOWS FULL WELL that Meredith is trying to kill all the mages and she STILL sits on her arse and does nothing.

I only wish she could be blown up TWICE.

If Anders knew this... this would explain why he's changed so much in Act III. I can't believe that never occurred to me before. 

I seriously didn't know about that before I came on this thread. Just wish Anders could've killed her without blowing up the Chantry. It was a pretty building, and I bet that big gold statue is expensive. Unless it's like a giant chocolate coin or something.

[Miri1984]

thenyxie wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

So, I went straight to the Gallows in Act III this time around and guess what? Ser Kerras says that Meredith has asked for the Rite of Annulment STRAIGHT AWAY. That means for the whole of Act III the mages are sitting in the Gallows with doom over their heads BEFORE the Seb/Leliana mission, so when you're talking to the Grand Cleric trying to distract her from Anders planting the bomb that will kill her she KNOWS FULL WELL that Meredith is trying to kill all the mages and she STILL sits on her arse and does nothing.

I only wish she could be blown up TWICE.

If Anders knew this... this would explain why he's changed so much in Act III. I can't believe that never occurred to me before. 

There's that bit in the codex that says he's recently taken up the cause again and it could be because he got wind of this. I mean, people may say that the Grand Cleric is ignorant of it, but how could she be?? It really throws the whole of Act III into a new light. Anders' increasing desperation and manic craziness, the rise of the bloodragers - even Grace's betrayal all make a lot more sense.

[Sialater]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Amondra wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

So, I went straight to the Gallows in Act III this time around and guess what? Ser Kerras says that Meredith has asked for the Rite of Annulment STRAIGHT AWAY. That means for the whole of Act III the mages are sitting in the Gallows with doom over their heads BEFORE the Seb/Leliana mission, so when you're talking to the Grand Cleric trying to distract her from Anders planting the bomb that will kill her she KNOWS FULL WELL that Meredith is trying to kill all the mages and she STILL sits on her arse and does nothing.

I only wish she could be blown up TWICE.

To bad there isn't a rewind then you could play it again, not the same feeling, but hey what can you do.

Yeah...I remember getting that line from Ser Kerras.  It's a good thing I wasn't holding anything, or I might have broken it.  I didn't get it until my most recent playthrough, and it changed the entire tone of Act 3 for me.  Suddenly it felt a lot less tragic and a lot more inevitable, like a race against the clock.

Which is why Act 3 does go by so fast.  The fit's about to hit the shan big time.

[Amondra]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Amondra wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

So, I went straight to the Gallows in Act III this time around and guess what? Ser Kerras says that Meredith has asked for the Rite of Annulment STRAIGHT AWAY. That means for the whole of Act III the mages are sitting in the Gallows with doom over their heads BEFORE the Seb/Leliana mission, so when you're talking to the Grand Cleric trying to distract her from Anders planting the bomb that will kill her she KNOWS FULL WELL that Meredith is trying to kill all the mages and she STILL sits on her arse and does nothing.

I only wish she could be blown up TWICE.

To bad there isn't a rewind then you could play it again, not the same feeling, but hey what can you do.

Yeah...I remember getting that line from Ser Kerras.  It's a good thing I wasn't holding anything, or I might have broken it.  I didn't get it until my most recent playthrough, and it changed the entire tone of Act 3 for me.  Suddenly it felt a lot less tragic and a lot more inevitable, like a race against the clock.

Yeah I was over zealous on clicking in first play through and got him saying that.  I was like like o.O then I started screaming at my screen.  My nurse about jumped and poked herself with the needle for my blood test...good times.

But yeah I felt like my Hawke had a sudden urge to do something anything, to stop what was about to happen.

Modifié par Amondra, 04 avril 2011 - 09:01 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

Miri1984 wrote...
I mean, people may say that the Grand Cleric is ignorant of it, but how could she be?? 

Because she's an idiotic old biddy who sticks her fingers in her ears and goes "LALALALA."  And because by Act 3, she's relying on Seb to be her eyes and ears (I think it says so in one of Seb's codex entries).  And Seb is neither the most streetwise nor most impartial observer.

[nyxocity]

ReallyRue wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

So, I went straight to the Gallows in Act III this time around and guess what? Ser Kerras says that Meredith has asked for the Rite of Annulment STRAIGHT AWAY. That means for the whole of Act III the mages are sitting in the Gallows with doom over their heads BEFORE the Seb/Leliana mission, so when you're talking to the Grand Cleric trying to distract her from Anders planting the bomb that will kill her she KNOWS FULL WELL that Meredith is trying to kill all the mages and she STILL sits on her arse and does nothing.

I only wish she could be blown up TWICE.

If Anders knew this... this would explain why he's changed so much in Act III. I can't believe that never occurred to me before. 

I seriously didn't know about that before I came on this thread. Just wish Anders could've killed her without blowing up the Chantry. It was a pretty building, and I bet that big gold statue is expensive. Unless it's like a giant chocolate coin or something.

I didn't know about it until a friend of mine told me right after I finished my first play through. I missed a few things on my first play through. I think that killing the Grand Cleric, while maybe riot-inciting, wouldn't have the same effect as Jenga-ing the holiest building in all of Kirkwall. It makes more of a "we're mad as hell and we're not gonna take it anymore" statement.

[Ryzaki]

Grace's betrayal makes no sense.

She turns against the only people willing to help her and proves herself to be the exact thing they were trying to avoid.

Screw Grace.
She doesn't even have the "I was desperate" excuse because she learned her BM for her ****** boyfriend. 

Sorry but I can not justify that "I'm gonna kidnap the dude who helped me sis even though he supports the mage cause!" 

URGH. 

Stupid plotshield. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 04 avril 2011 - 09:05 .

[payroo]

Ryzaki wrote...

Grace's betrayal makes no sense.

She turns against the only people willing to help her and proves herself to be the exact thing they were trying to avoid.

Screw Grace.
She doesn't even have the "I was desperate" excuse because she learned her BM for her ****** boyfriend. 

Grace was just...
She complained that she got caught because I didn't give her snacks?! SRSLY wish I could have killed her. Where was Anders and his sammiches then?!

[Threeparts]

I really wish that clicking him would initiate a proper conversation, where Hawke could ask him wtf are they thinking? Or perhaps a quest, to confront Meredith or inform Anders. It would make me feel a lot less helpless.

On the other hand - and if I'm remembering correctly - Gaider mentioned in a thread in the Story/Quests forum that he didn't think the Divine would approve the Annulment.
I totally understand that merely having the threat of it hanging over the mages is enough to spur Anders into action, but it also makes me wonder what Meredith would have done had her messenger come back with a refusal. At that point an Exalted March hadn't actually been called, so was she holding off on the Annulment because she'd rather call a March? Or were both options only possibilities depending on Leliana's report and if things settled down?

Modifié par Threeparts, 04 avril 2011 - 09:08 .

[Amondra]

Ryzaki wrote...

Grace's betrayal makes no sense.

She turns against the only people willing to help her and proves herself to be the exact thing they were trying to avoid.

Screw Grace.
She doesn't even have the "I was desperate" excuse because she learned her BM for her ****** boyfriend. 

Sorry but I can not justify that "I'm gonna kidnap the dude who helped me sis even though he supports the mage cause!" 

URGH. 

Stupid plotshield. 

Grace stole my Anders...so I ripped her heart out...stupid girl after all I did...after Anders defended her the first time around, when I was all about killing her:pinched:

Modifié par Amondra, 04 avril 2011 - 09:08 .

[nyxocity]

Miri1984 wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

So, I went straight to the Gallows in Act III this time around and guess what? Ser Kerras says that Meredith has asked for the Rite of Annulment STRAIGHT AWAY. That means for the whole of Act III the mages are sitting in the Gallows with doom over their heads BEFORE the Seb/Leliana mission, so when you're talking to the Grand Cleric trying to distract her from Anders planting the bomb that will kill her she KNOWS FULL WELL that Meredith is trying to kill all the mages and she STILL sits on her arse and does nothing.

I only wish she could be blown up TWICE.

If Anders knew this... this would explain why he's changed so much in Act III. I can't believe that never occurred to me before. 

There's that bit in the codex that says he's recently taken up the cause again and it could be because he got wind of this. I mean, people may say that the Grand Cleric is ignorant of it, but how could she be?? It really throws the whole of Act III into a new light. Anders' increasing desperation and manic craziness, the rise of the bloodragers - even Grace's betrayal all make a lot more sense.

See, this was always my thing with Act III. I was like, but... Anders, why are you taking up the cause again after leaving it alone the last three years? I only ever wanted the tiniest of explanation. But if he knew about this, then it all makes total sense, and he may have. If the templars in the courtyard at the Gallows are spewing that info to passerby, then it's likely most of the apostates knew. It really does throw everything into a whole new light, and that's why I hate that it's a throwaway piece of dialogue you can easily and completely miss. If Anders had mentioned Meredith having sent for the Rite at any point, it would have made so much more sense to me the first time around.

[ReallyRue]

thenyxie wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

So, I went straight to the Gallows in Act III this time around and guess what? Ser Kerras says that Meredith has asked for the Rite of Annulment STRAIGHT AWAY. That means for the whole of Act III the mages are sitting in the Gallows with doom over their heads BEFORE the Seb/Leliana mission, so when you're talking to the Grand Cleric trying to distract her from Anders planting the bomb that will kill her she KNOWS FULL WELL that Meredith is trying to kill all the mages and she STILL sits on her arse and does nothing.

I only wish she could be blown up TWICE.

If Anders knew this... this would explain why he's changed so much in Act III. I can't believe that never occurred to me before. 

I seriously didn't know about that before I came on this thread. Just wish Anders could've killed her without blowing up the Chantry. It was a pretty building, and I bet that big gold statue is expensive. Unless it's like a giant chocolate coin or something.

I didn't know about it until a friend of mine told me right after I finished my first play through. I missed a few things on my first play through. I think that killing the Grand Cleric, while maybe riot-inciting, wouldn't have the same effect as Jenga-ing the holiest building in all of Kirkwall. It makes more of a "we're mad as hell and we're not gonna take it anymore" statement.

Ha, I guess. Still, I would've liked to chip a bit off the giant statue and sell it before he 'Jenga-d' the place. After all, if Hawke's going on the run with her favourite apostate, she'll need coin again.

[Purposeof-Flight]

Don't even get me started on Grace.
I don't even....
KIDNAPPIN' MY ANDERS!

[Miri1984]

I HATE Grace, and I wasn't referring to her betrayal so much as the plot she was involved in (badly worded). She and Thrask manage to get Templars and Mages working together, which doesn't happen before then, possibly because the kind hearted Templars are all I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO THE RITE OF ANNULMENT.

Cullen also says "I fear Ser Alrik's tranquil solution would have been a kinder fate than what is coming." After you chat with him in Act III. So it seems even Cullen knows about it. Although I think he's holding out hope that the Grand Cleric will refuse the rite - possibly he's more informed about that kind of thing given he's from another Circle, one where the rite was actually JUSTIFIED.

[Amondra]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

Don't even get me started on Grace.
I don't even....
KIDNAPPIN' MY ANDERS!

Blood mage stole my man!

[leggywillow]

Threeparts wrote...
On the other hand - and if I'm remembering correctly - Gaider mentioned in a thread in the Story/Quests forum that he didn't think the Divine would approve the Annulment.
I totally understand that merely having the threat of it hanging over the mages is enough to spur Anders into action, but it also makes me wonder what Meredith would have done had her messenger come back with a refusal. At that point an Exalted March hadn't actually been called, so was she holding off on the Annulment because she'd rather call a March? Or were both options only possibilities depending on Leliana's report and if things settled down?

It surprises me that the Divine would reject the Annulment.  If she's planning an Exalted March anyway... an Annulment would almost certainly have fewer casualties.  Seems kinda strange.

[Sialater]

The Veil is already thin in Kirkwall... a few more tens of thousands dead might shred it entirely.

Uh... stupid much?

[Magaloo]

leggywillow wrote...

Threeparts wrote...
On the other hand - and if I'm remembering correctly - Gaider mentioned in a thread in the Story/Quests forum that he didn't think the Divine would approve the Annulment.
I totally understand that merely having the threat of it hanging over the mages is enough to spur Anders into action, but it also makes me wonder what Meredith would have done had her messenger come back with a refusal. At that point an Exalted March hadn't actually been called, so was she holding off on the Annulment because she'd rather call a March? Or were both options only possibilities depending on Leliana's report and if things settled down?

It surprises me that the Divine would reject the Annulment.  If she's planning an Exalted March anyway... an Annulment would almost certainly have fewer casualties.  Seems kinda strange.

Could it be a two part thing?  Clean the mages first then do a final cleaning sweep?