Sialater wrote...
I think Carver beats him in most hated.
Modifié par Magaloo, 04 avril 2011 - 09:59 .
Sjofn wrote...
leggywillow wrote...
Threeparts wrote...
On the other hand - and if I'm remembering correctly - Gaider mentioned in a thread in the Story/Quests forum that he didn't think the Divine would approve the Annulment.
I totally understand that merely having the threat of it hanging over the mages is enough to spur Anders into action, but it also makes me wonder what Meredith would have done had her messenger come back with a refusal. At that point an Exalted March hadn't actually been called, so was she holding off on the Annulment because she'd rather call a March? Or were both options only possibilities depending on Leliana's report and if things settled down?
It surprises me that the Divine would reject the Annulment. If she's planning an Exalted March anyway... an Annulment would almost certainly have fewer casualties. Seems kinda strange.
Yeah, I'm a little surprised Gaider said he didn't think the Divine would be down with it, just because if you're convinced the Kirkwall Circle is THIS CLOSE to rebelling and you're thinking of marching on Kirkwall anyway, it seems like the less bloody solution. Although maybe she wouldn't approve because it's supposed to be the grand cleric's call, and she doesn't want every overzealous knight-commander out there sending her letters saying OMG AUTHORITY PLZ, LOCAL GRAND CLERIC DOESN'T UNDERSTAAAAAAND.
I sort of wonder if Meredith sent for it to be approved because she also knows the Divine has her eye on Kirkwall rather than simply having a hard on for killing mages. It wouldn't surprise me.
T3hAnubis wrote...
Carver is more whiny than Allistair and Fenris put together. His inferiority complex is clichéd and dull.Ryzaki wrote...
Sialater wrote...
I think Carver beats him in most hated.
I will never understand that. Carver's awesomesause.
CatOfEvilGenius wrote...
I'm sure heresy is perfectly compatible with crazypants.
Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 04 avril 2011 - 09:35 .
SurelyForth wrote...
payroo wrote...
SurelyForth wrote...
leggywillow wrote...
I still have a hard time imaging Dorothea from Leliana's Song calling an Exalted March. She seemed so nice.
Maybe she has a bit of the idol, too, and it's making her crazy like Meredith and Bartrand.
My level of FFFFFFF RAEG would be through the roof if this were the case. LOL IDOL DID IT annoys me so much.
Me, too. Although the fight with Meredith was fairly cool, that aspect of it was so...bleargh. Stupid idol and its stupid, selective mind poisoning.
leggywillow wrote...
yukidama wrote...
Whatevz, I love Carver. Best lil' bro ever :')
Me too. He's my favorite character after Anders. He's such a jerk, and I love him for it.
thenyxie wrote...
Miri1984 wrote...
thenyxie wrote...
Miri1984 wrote...
So, I went straight to the Gallows in Act III this time around and guess what? Ser Kerras says that Meredith has asked for the Rite of Annulment STRAIGHT AWAY. That means for the whole of Act III the mages are sitting in the Gallows with doom over their heads BEFORE the Seb/Leliana mission, so when you're talking to the Grand Cleric trying to distract her from Anders planting the bomb that will kill her she KNOWS FULL WELL that Meredith is trying to kill all the mages and she STILL sits on her arse and does nothing.
I only wish she could be blown up TWICE.
If Anders knew this... this would explain why he's changed so much in Act III. I can't believe that never occurred to me before.
There's that bit in the codex that says he's recently taken up the cause again and it could be because he got wind of this. I mean, people may say that the Grand Cleric is ignorant of it, but how could she be?? It really throws the whole of Act III into a new light. Anders' increasing desperation and manic craziness, the rise of the bloodragers - even Grace's betrayal all make a lot more sense.
See, this was always my thing with Act III. I was like, but... Anders, why are you taking up the cause again after leaving it alone the last three years? I only ever wanted the tiniest of explanation. But if he knew about this, then it all makes total sense, and he may have. If the templars in the courtyard at the Gallows are spewing that info to passerby, then it's likely most of the apostates knew. It really does throw everything into a whole new light, and that's why I hate that it's a throwaway piece of dialogue you can easily and completely miss. If Anders had mentioned Meredith having sent for the Rite at any point, it would have made so much more sense to me the first time around.
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Modifié par Sabariel, 04 avril 2011 - 09:39 .
Sabariel wrote...
thenyxie wrote...
Miri1984 wrote...
thenyxie wrote...
Miri1984 wrote...
So, I went straight to the Gallows in Act III this time around and guess what? Ser Kerras says that Meredith has asked for the Rite of Annulment STRAIGHT AWAY. That means for the whole of Act III the mages are sitting in the Gallows with doom over their heads BEFORE the Seb/Leliana mission, so when you're talking to the Grand Cleric trying to distract her from Anders planting the bomb that will kill her she KNOWS FULL WELL that Meredith is trying to kill all the mages and she STILL sits on her arse and does nothing.
I only wish she could be blown up TWICE.
If Anders knew this... this would explain why he's changed so much in Act III. I can't believe that never occurred to me before.
There's that bit in the codex that says he's recently taken up the cause again and it could be because he got wind of this. I mean, people may say that the Grand Cleric is ignorant of it, but how could she be?? It really throws the whole of Act III into a new light. Anders' increasing desperation and manic craziness, the rise of the bloodragers - even Grace's betrayal all make a lot more sense.
See, this was always my thing with Act III. I was like, but... Anders, why are you taking up the cause again after leaving it alone the last three years? I only ever wanted the tiniest of explanation. But if he knew about this, then it all makes total sense, and he may have. If the templars in the courtyard at the Gallows are spewing that info to passerby, then it's likely most of the apostates knew. It really does throw everything into a whole new light, and that's why I hate that it's a throwaway piece of dialogue you can easily and completely miss. If Anders had mentioned Meredith having sent for the Rite at any point, it would have made so much more sense to me the first time around.
I had always thought that perhaps "Justice" had changed Anders' mind for him. But if he knew about Meredith's plan... then it makes sense.
Most people seem to judge characters more along the lines of "how much I would like this character in real life" than by their depth, believability, etc.Ryzaki wrote...
Sialater wrote...
I think Carver beats him in most hated.
I will never understand that. Carver's awesomesause.
Sabariel wrote...
I had always thought that perhaps "Justice" had changed Anders' mind for him. But if he knew about Meredith's plan... then it makes sense.
Sable Rhapsody wrote...
Poor unloved Carver. I adored my resentful wackjob of a little bro. His final speech before the last fight is just the sweetest.
AndreaDraco wrote...
Sabariel wrote...
thenyxie wrote...
Miri1984 wrote...
thenyxie wrote...
Miri1984 wrote...
So, I went straight to the Gallows in Act III this time around and guess what? Ser Kerras says that Meredith has asked for the Rite of Annulment STRAIGHT AWAY. That means for the whole of Act III the mages are sitting in the Gallows with doom over their heads BEFORE the Seb/Leliana mission, so when you're talking to the Grand Cleric trying to distract her from Anders planting the bomb that will kill her she KNOWS FULL WELL that Meredith is trying to kill all the mages and she STILL sits on her arse and does nothing.
I only wish she could be blown up TWICE.
If Anders knew this... this would explain why he's changed so much in Act III. I can't believe that never occurred to me before.
There's that bit in the codex that says he's recently taken up the cause again and it could be because he got wind of this. I mean, people may say that the Grand Cleric is ignorant of it, but how could she be?? It really throws the whole of Act III into a new light. Anders' increasing desperation and manic craziness, the rise of the bloodragers - even Grace's betrayal all make a lot more sense.
See, this was always my thing with Act III. I was like, but... Anders, why are you taking up the cause again after leaving it alone the last three years? I only ever wanted the tiniest of explanation. But if he knew about this, then it all makes total sense, and he may have. If the templars in the courtyard at the Gallows are spewing that info to passerby, then it's likely most of the apostates knew. It really does throw everything into a whole new light, and that's why I hate that it's a throwaway piece of dialogue you can easily and completely miss. If Anders had mentioned Meredith having sent for the Rite at any point, it would have made so much more sense to me the first time around.
I had always thought that perhaps "Justice" had changed Anders' mind for him. But if he knew about Meredith's plan... then it makes sense.
It's actually a very reasonable explanation. It would be neat to have it in the actual game.
Threeparts wrote...
This thread needs more of payroo's Leader of the Pack Anders.
AndreaDraco wrote...
Sable Rhapsody wrote...
Poor unloved Carver. I adored my resentful wackjob of a little bro. His final speech before the last fight is just the sweetest.
I agree. His speech before fighting Orsino/Meredith was very, very good, second only to Anders' in my opinion. There's a sweetness in his voice that is both very believable and endearing. And the way he say "brother" in the end is so much different than the beginning. Kudos not only to the writing, but also to the voice actor, that did a fantastic job throughout the entire game.
Modifié par Amondra, 04 avril 2011 - 09:51 .
AndreaDraco wrote...
Sable Rhapsody wrote...
Poor unloved Carver. I adored my resentful wackjob of a little bro. His final speech before the last fight is just the sweetest.
I agree. His speech before fighting Orsino/Meredith was very, very good, second only to Anders' in my opinion. There's a sweetness in his voice that is both very believable and endearing. And the way he say "brother" in the end is so much different than the beginning. Kudos not only to the writing, but also to the voice actor, that did a fantastic job throughout the entire game.
wub We love to hate you, Carver! Erm? Sorry, confused. Brain not working at 100% due to serious lack of sushi.Upsettingshorts wrote:
CatOfEvilGenius wrote...
I'm sure heresy is perfectly compatible with crazypants.
Did someone call... oh. Nevermind!
Modifié par CatOfEvilGenius, 04 avril 2011 - 09:51 .
payroo wrote...
*sigh* Carver went the Templar route in my first game and so the only line I got to hear was "I'm not going to kill my sister!"
Modifié par van_squirgle, 04 avril 2011 - 09:54 .
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Amondra wrote...
Sigh no matter how I try I can never get the picture to post in here right. I did last night after five mintues of fighting with it. I do eveything right and still shows as a broken link....the forum hates my soul
I saw your picture. The only thing you lacked in your formatting was [/img] (you forgot the G). Here, quote this message so you can see:Amondra wrote...
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Modifié par TS2Aggie, 04 avril 2011 - 09:53 .
payroo wrote...
Amondra wrote...
Sigh no matter how I try I can never get the picture to post in here right. I did last night after five mintues of fighting with it. I do eveything right and still shows as a broken link....the forum hates my soul
You need to use BBCode!
like this without the spaces:
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