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[leggywillow]

Rheia1234 wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

And... that's why I'm glad most characters kept their clothes on.

Do you really think he's that bad?

It's a sexy body model, I think, but not right for Anders.  It's too buff.  That's just my humble preference, anyway.  It's not like I can mod the game anyway on my 360.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Rheia1234 wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

And... that's why I'm glad most characters kept their clothes on.

Do you really think he's that bad?

I am unmoved by shirtless pixel people.

The model itself is fine, of course, but... yeeeeah. Shirtlessness wouldn't add anything to the scene(s). It would only take away. Ohohohohoh.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 17 mars 2011 - 09:55 .

[Sialater]

Rheia1234 wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

And... that's why I'm glad most characters kept their clothes on.

Do you really think he's that bad?

His head's smaller than it should be, i think.  He was more in proportion wearing his clothes.  That's the only thing I'm noticing.

[Eydris Ivo]

Pseudocognition wrote...

Rheia1234 wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

And... that's why I'm glad most characters kept their clothes on.

Do you really think he's that bad?

I am unmoved by shirtless pixel people.

The model itself is fine, of course, but... yeeeeah. Shirtlessness wouldn't add anything to the scene(s).

Heh, you have a point. I'm just being silly

I -should- be writing a research report...

Modifié par Rheia1234, 17 mars 2011 - 09:53 .

[Eydris Ivo]

Sialater wrote...

Rheia1234 wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

And... that's why I'm glad most characters kept their clothes on.

Do you really think he's that bad?

His head's smaller than it should be, i think.  He was more in proportion wearing his clothes.  That's the only thing I'm noticing.

I think that's the angle of the screenie I took. But I don't think he looks that bad, he would have done a lot of running, and lifting kittens...and stuff.

[DeaHamlet]

maselphie wrote...

nodice wrote...
** comic strip **
A wizard did it indeed...

LMAO UNTIL THE END OF TIME.

Still, it's very easy to not hit the heart button, if that's the commentary. >_>

As for Justice ... if we do stay with Anders, at least we know that if we're murdered he will inact revenge of epic proportions. Beautiful, epic revenge. FOR JUSTICE!

THIS!  Maybe it's bad of me but that just makes me swoon... I mean, he does say so explicitly, something about drowning in blood to defend Hawke... SWOON. *melts*

[YamiSnuffles]

If it means we get some DLC instead of an epilogue, I'm all for it. I'll take more in game time with Anders over any epilogue mention. However, if we never get any DLC and we only get the scant mentions we did of things from DAO, I shall be... unhappy!

[maselphie]

DeaHamlet wrote...

THIS!  Maybe it's bad of me but that just makes me swoon... I mean, he does say so explicitly, something about drowning in blood to defend Hawke... SWOON. *melts*

 Yes, the creepiest/most romantic line of the game. "I would drown us both in blood to keep you safe."

lamppostinwinter wrote...

One of the reasons that all you get are mentions of the decisions you made in DA:O is because they already told you everything that happened in the epilogue! Hopefully this means that later they will have something left to tell you that is a surprise, or maybe you will even encounter a sidequest that wraps up one from DA:2, not just an encounter with a previous character. Not that I didn't enjoy the cameos, they were great. Freakin' Leliana that one was a shocker.

Yes, yes, yes! It would be worse to get text wrap-ups than experiencing our consequences first hand.

Modifié par maselphie, 17 mars 2011 - 10:15 .

[Sarah1281]

@maselphie: I don't think it's a lack of epilogue, actually. You can see without an epilogue in origins that Bhelen and Harrowmont are almost polar opposites. Their rule will be drastically different even if you can't find out what that means in greater detail. If you end the curse, kill the werewolves, or kill the Dalish then that's going to have an impact. I think that the difference between ending the curse and killing the werewolves is probably the smallest in scale since either way the werewolves are gone and now there is either a small group of humans trying to integrate into society or there isn't. Wiping out an entire Dalish clan and keeping werewolves around to spread their curse will be far different than not killing the Dalish and getting rid of the werewolves one way or another. I don't need an epilogue to tell me that. The mages seem like the ones that aren't outright killed will be rather traumatized by having the Circle annulled even without knowing how much Irving is affected iin the epilogue. Greagoir and Wynne make far too big of a deal about the potential annullment for me to think it's a case of it not mattering one way or another. And Anora and Alistair are very different people with very different priorities (and for that matter, so are Eamon and Anora in the case of the cynical and/or an unhardened Alistair) so I wouldn't need an epilogue to tell me how their reigns will differ.

In Kirkwall, I really can't think of any decisions you make that hold that kind of weight. Maybe fighting the Arishok in a duel and defeating him will earn you more respect than your party against his but all qunari respect has seemed to do is cause the Arishok to listen to you before doing what the qun demands him to do and allowing you to fight the Arishok alone. Even if they respect you, they still see you as part of a stupid and corrupt system and must do as the Qun demands of them.

Feynriel actually is a good example because he could be a force for great good or great evil and so killing or not killing him could make a big difference...or he could just be another mage. I guess we'll have to see.

For the rest of it, though...you may as well stay neutral and not get involved in the end fight for all the difference you make. Having mages or templars out to get you in the sequel doesn't seem like it would make a huge difference to anybody that isn't with you at the time.

[panamakira]

I seem to be full of questions today. I started my third playthrough even though I haven't finished my second but oh well.

I used my mage Amell import that left Anora as Queen and kept Alistair by her side. She asked as a boon for the Circle of Ferelden to be independent or something? I'm like 2 hrs into the game, I go to the Hanged Man and ask the bartender or whatever for rumors and he says that the Circle of Ferelden is independent and he thinks that's going to be a disaster...

Does anybody know how much of a difference it makes if your Origins import has pro-mage decisions within the game or with Anders?

[kellyofthemagi]

Happy St.Patricks Day everyone  Okay my first run my li was Anders and I was a rogue.it was awesome. I'm wondeing though if you play as a mage is it any different with Anders ?

[DeaHamlet]

maselphie wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...

THIS!  Maybe it's bad of me but that just makes me swoon... I mean, he does say so explicitly, something about drowning in blood to defend Hawke... SWOON. *melts*

 Yes, the creepiest/most romantic line of the game. "I would drown us both in blood to keep you safe."

I'm currently playing a pro-templar Fenris romancing playthrough... and Anders is 100% friend (I shut down his advances, and still got +15 friendship because I waited until he said it's a bad idea and just agreed... sneaky!).  Anders totally said that line to my Hawke even though they're just friends!!!
Talk about some dedicated friend, wowza!

[Eshaye]

kellyofthemagi wrote...

Happy St.Patricks Day everyone  Okay my first run my li was Anders and I was a rogue.it was awesome. I'm wondeing though if you play as a mage is it any different with Anders ?

I only played as a mage so far, and Anders makes a few mentions of you being an apostate and digging that, thinking he'd never meet a mage like Hawke. It felt really appropriate. 

[maselphie]

Sarah1281 wrote...

In Kirkwall, I really can't think of any decisions you make that hold that kind of weight. 

That is simply not true, and you know it! You even said so yourself: the Qunari will have a different point of view of you, and they're dangerous people. So will the mages, and so will the templars and general public. How are these not things of weight? If you're going to infer importance of choices in DA:O, you should be fair and infer the same in DA2. If you don't need an epilogue to tell you consequences, such as will the Dalish, why would you need one for your Templar/Mage decisions to hold weight? I found the decision in the Dalish quest to be completely pointless. It just came down to whether I wanted to kill one for the sake of many, or a whole tribe, or whatever. So far, the only consequence I saw was who fought for you in the end battle, not the hate of all elves or werewolves found me in the night for revenge or anything.

DA2's "your actions matter" are more internal, perhaps, than external. You see what your actions have done over the coarse of the game. Something DA:O lacks a lot of. It depended on the epilogue in a way.

The thing about the ending of DA2 is that you can't stay neutral. That's not why Cassandra is interogating Varric, and that's not an interesting story either. You're important to the world because you did one thing or another, and didn't just sit at home drinking tea. If you help the Templars, the people love you and make you Viscount. If you help the Mages, you're a fugitive. There's no tea-drinker achievement. xD

Modifié par maselphie, 17 mars 2011 - 10:34 .

[kellyofthemagi]

I asumed some of the conversations would be different. I think my next run I'll try a mage, though I'll tell you the rogue play is awesome bad ass.

[mellifera]

Thinking back on the days when that one time he cannibalismed was the worst of his problems...

[Aggie Punbot]

Eshaye wrote...

kellyofthemagi wrote...

Happy St.Patricks Day everyone  Okay my first run my li was Anders and I was a rogue.it was awesome. I'm wondeing though if you play as a mage is it any different with Anders ?

I only played as a mage so far, and Anders makes a few mentions of you being an apostate and digging that, thinking he'd never meet a mage like Hawke. It felt really appropriate.

He also makes mention that you are the type of leader that they (mages) need (assuming you're in the friendship zone and not rival) right before you can taker the plunge into the romance in Act 2. Very sweet.

kellyofthemagi wrote...

I asumed some of the conversations would be different. I think my next run I'll try a mage, though I'll tell you the rogue play is awesome bad ass.../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png

I would like to note that playing as a mage was the only way I've managed to beat the Arishok in a one-on-one duel (in Casual, but still).

On a separate topic, does anyone know off-hand if Anders makes any mention of Carver if the latter decides to join the templars?

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 17 mars 2011 - 10:43 .

[Akrim_Drak]

panamakira wrote...

I seem to be full of questions today. I started my third playthrough even though I haven't finished my second but oh well.

I used my mage Amell import that left Anora as Queen and kept Alistair by her side. She asked as a boon for the Circle of Ferelden to be independent or something? I'm like 2 hrs into the game, I go to the Hanged Man and ask the bartender or whatever for rumors and he says that the Circle of Ferelden is independent and he thinks that's going to be a disaster...

Does anybody know how much of a difference it makes if your Origins import has pro-mage decisions within the game or with Anders?

I know if you choose to free the Circle from whoever's king/queen then the conversation with Meredith/Alistair is almost exclusively about that. There's some random chatter too about how crazy Ferelden is for doing it.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

yukidama wrote...

Thinking back on the days when that one time he cannibalismed was the worst of his problems...
[snip]

Things were so simple back then.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 17 mars 2011 - 11:18 .

[TripLight]

Akrim_Drak wrote...

panamakira wrote...

I seem to be full of questions today. I started my third playthrough even though I haven't finished my second but oh well.

I used my mage Amell import that left Anora as Queen and kept Alistair by her side. She asked as a boon for the Circle of Ferelden to be independent or something? I'm like 2 hrs into the game, I go to the Hanged Man and ask the bartender or whatever for rumors and he says that the Circle of Ferelden is independent and he thinks that's going to be a disaster...

Does anybody know how much of a difference it makes if your Origins import has pro-mage decisions within the game or with Anders?

I know if you choose to free the Circle from whoever's king/queen then the conversation with Meredith/Alistair is almost exclusively about that. There's some random chatter too about how crazy Ferelden is for doing it.

Great..another DAO playthrough in the works for me. But is the Amell the only one mentioned or does Surana get a mention as well?

[maselphie]

Rheia1234 wrote...




Votes: Shall I play this save game to the love scene?

This needs to be on this page.

My first playthrough was mage that friendmanced Anders, which made it easier to agree with him and made more sense that he was head over heels for me. He does make some mage-only references, and sometimes the things he says could be construed as meaning the both of us. Like "they fear the power WE have", even though he just means him and the mages, I felt like he was referring to the both of us. Maybe it's mostly role-playing than actual special treatment.

I do think there is at least one party banter that changes from "you" to "your sister" when talking about mages in the first act.

[leggywillow]

yukidama wrote...

Thinking back on the days when that one time he cannibalismed was the worst of his problems...

Yes, cannibalism is... what were we talking about again?  ::drools::

I love his neck.  It looks very kissable.

[Akrim_Drak]

TripLight wrote...

Great..another DAO playthrough in the works for me. But is the Amell the only one mentioned or does Surana get a mention as well?

I don't recall anything specific, it's very general. They only mention the warden as a mage saving Ferelden not specifically which one, and with Alistair/Anora it's about the Circle as opposed to any one person. Meredith calls him/her basically insane.