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#17901
Kawamura

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

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I'm a mage sympathizer myself, but I feel we needed a few more main quests before The Final Straw to really emphasize how bad the conflict was escalating to.


You don't actually need additional quests.  All you need to do is listen to the ambient dialogue of people as you walk by, or of random people you can click on.  I missed it all until my last playthrough, and what I heard made my blood boil.  It really changed the whole tenor of the mage/templar thing.

In Act 2, you can find Evelina begging in the streets of Darktown.  You hear a conversation between a mage and his former lover, made Tranquil and raped by Alrik.  There's actually a lot of ambient stuff on Alrik, and if you bring his papers to Cullen and Elthina, they both focus more on his murder than the fact that he was a rapist psychopathic freak commiting crimes under their very noses.

In Act 3, the nobles all but beg you to be Viscount.  If you talk to Ser Kerras, he tells you that Meredith has sent for the Right of Annulment...long before Anders blows up the Chantry.  Sister Nightingale says the Divine is sending soldiers.  The templar recruits in the Gallows talk about the Order losing its way.  Little thing after little thing just piles up exponentially.


You're expecting an awful lot of people, to get their information in ways that don't involve them being beaten over the head with it.

#17902
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YamiSnuffles wrote...

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Incidentally, is Anders Rivalry or Anders friendship the better course for him?


Depends on who you ask. Friendship causes Justice and Anders to merge more because they are both focused on the same cause, more or less. Rivalry gets Anders to rethink his revolutionary path a bit and thus he comes in conflict with Justice. Rivalry Anders blacks out a lot because Justice just takes control. Friendship Anders is more... mentally settled I suppose, but has fused more with Justice as a result.

So if you really dislike Justice or want Anders to be less extreme, go rivalry. The Chantry still gets blown up, but it's because Justice took control. If, however, you are fine with Justice or at least okay with Anders' cause (and the way he is fighting for it), go friendship.

Mostly it comes down to personal preference.


damn... you see that makes it harder to choose. I support Anders' extemity and his cause, but I want him to be more in control of his own body and not have the two merge as one.

I guess I'll just have to do a douchebag Hawke who does douche things to mages to get Anders to be a rival. And oh will it be hilarious with me as a Mage.

I hate compromising my beliefs though. If I'm a mage sympathizer, which is what I'll always be at the end of the game, and if I'm a mage, being a dick to mages makes me feel like a hypocrite.

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I believe I want a 'Team Anders' shirt with 'Viva La Revolución' across the back.

#17904
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AnniLau wrote...

I believe I want a 'Team Anders' shirt with 'Viva La Revolución' across the back.


lol XD

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AnniLau wrote...

I believe I want a 'Team Anders' shirt with 'Viva La Revolución' across the back.


Or "Team Anders" "When the goin' gets tough, blow up the Chantry." lol

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LoneWolf4191 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

I believe I want a 'Team Anders' shirt with 'Viva La Revolución' across the back.


Or "Team Anders" "When the goin' gets tough, blow up the Chantry." lol


I was thinking more like:  "When the going gets tough, play jenga!'

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
I'm a mage sympathizer myself, but I feel we needed a few more main quests before The Final Straw to really emphasize how bad the conflict was escalating to.


You don't actually need additional quests.  All you need to do is listen to the ambient dialogue of people as you walk by, or of random people you can click on.  I missed it all until my last playthrough, and what I heard made my blood boil.  It really changed the whole tenor of the mage/templar thing.

In Act 2, you can find Evelina begging in the streets of Darktown.  You hear a conversation between a mage and his former lover, made Tranquil and raped by Alrik.  There's actually a lot of ambient stuff on Alrik, and if you bring his papers to Cullen and Elthina, they both focus more on his murder than the fact that he was a rapist psychopathic freak commiting crimes under their very noses.

In Act 3, the nobles all but beg you to be Viscount.  If you talk to Ser Kerras, he tells you that Meredith has sent for the Right of Annulment...long before Anders blows up the Chantry.  Sister Nightingale says the Divine is sending soldiers.  The templar recruits in the Gallows talk about the Order losing its way.  Little thing after little thing just piles up exponentially.


I did notice a lot of those little things, like Evelina among many of those you listed (why you can only give her 1 Silver at a time is beyond me)

But I mean a few more main quests to show how bad Orsino and Meredith were feuding with one another. I guess what I mean to say is, they needed to be shown more. Two quests didn't really show off their character that much. I know Meredith's backstory, and it is tragic, but.... I don't know how to phrase it.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

damn... you see that makes it harder to choose. I support Anders' extemity and his cause, but I want him to be more in control of his own body and not have the two merge as one.

I guess I'll just have to do a douchebag Hawke who does douche things to mages to get Anders to be a rival. And oh will it be hilarious with me as a Mage.

I hate compromising my beliefs though. If I'm a mage sympathizer, which is what I'll always be at the end of the game, and if I'm a mage, being a dick to mages makes me feel like a hypocrite.


Well, technically he has more control of himself in the friendship path. He still makes decisions and carries out plans, but he's in synch with what Justice wants. In the rivalry path, he has absolutely no control sometimes because Justice just takes control of his body.

It comes down, more, to what Anders is now. Justice may never be separated from him again, so he can either fight against it to his dying breath or merge more.

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Tasmen wrote...

LoneWolf4191 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

I believe I want a 'Team Anders' shirt with 'Viva La Revolución' across the back.


Or "Team Anders" "When the goin' gets tough, blow up the Chantry." lol


I was thinking more like:  "When the going gets tough, play jenga!'


Or maybe a quote from his kinky manifesto. :o

Modifié par AnniLau, 07 avril 2011 - 10:13 .


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AnniLau wrote...

Tasmen wrote...

LoneWolf4191 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

I believe I want a 'Team Anders' shirt with 'Viva La Revolución' across the back.


Or "Team Anders" "When the goin' gets tough, blow up the Chantry." lol


I was thinking more like:  "When the going gets tough, play jenga!'


Or maybe a quote from his kinky manifesto. :o


lol XD

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T3hAnubis wrote...

Was this posted?
http://sandara.devia...t.com/#/d3deral
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/iwanttotouchhishairsobad

#17912
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Here's part 1 to the rivalmance. The rest of the parts should be on the right.

To make a link like that it's [ url="http//:Somesite.com"]Text Here[ /url] Except you need to remove the spaces before the u's in the words url.


that link no wanna work.


Also, thank you for the link help thingy!

#17913
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AnniLau wrote...

Tasmen wrote...

LoneWolf4191 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

I believe I want a 'Team Anders' shirt with 'Viva La Revolución' across the back.


Or "Team Anders" "When the goin' gets tough, blow up the Chantry." lol


I was thinking more like:  "When the going gets tough, play jenga!'


Or maybe a quote from his kinky manifesto. :o



"Anders, Age 32"

Modifié par Tasmen, 07 avril 2011 - 10:18 .


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Batteries wrote...

T3hAnubis wrote...

Was this posted?
http://sandara.devia...t.com/#/d3deral
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/iwanttotouchhishairsobad


touch it, you know you want to.... >D

#17915
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Batteries wrote...

T3hAnubis wrote...

Was this posted?
http://sandara.devia...t.com/#/d3deral
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/iwanttotouchhishairsobad


That is beyond the normal comprehension of the level of badassery.

I feel like he's going to burst into a Blue Super Saiyan (yes I made a DBZ reference)

#17916
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Tasmen wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

Tasmen wrote...

LoneWolf4191 wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

I believe I want a 'Team Anders' shirt with 'Viva La Revolución' across the back.


Or "Team Anders" "When the goin' gets tough, blow up the Chantry." lol


I was thinking more like:  "When the going gets tough, play jenga!'


Or maybe a quote from his kinky manifesto. :o



"Anders, Age 32"


<_<

#17917
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T3hAnubis wrote...

Was this posted?
http://sandara.devia...t.com/#/d3deral
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Awesome!

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On the friendship vs. Rivalry.

I go rivalry. I love angst and rivalry path is swelling with it.

Though I would wait for the bugs to be fixed before doing it. I was really creeped out at the ending because it was exactly the same as the friendship path. Which after Anders' last convo on the rivalry path (the one before the Last Straw) makes it look like Justice assumes direct control permanently. And it makes the rivalry path feel pointless. 

...That art is so pretty. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 07 avril 2011 - 10:24 .


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Kawamura wrote...

You're expecting an awful lot of people, to get their information in ways that don't involve them being beaten over the head with it.


IKNOWRITE <_<  Between that and actually reading the entire goddamn codex my last playthrough, I was almost as panicked as Anders in Act 3. There was an inevitability to it all that made me shudder.

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
But I mean a few more main quests to show how bad Orsino and Meredith were feuding with one another. I guess what I mean to say is, they needed to be shown more. Two quests didn't really show off their character that much. I know Meredith's backstory, and it is tragic, but.... I don't know how to phrase it.


This is what the codex is for ^_^  Though TBH, I agree with you.  Not everyone is going to catch the ambient stuff, and not everyone reads everything.  And they shouldn't have to in order to get a clear picture of what's going on.  I do wish BioWare had worked more of the background stuff into the foreground to make it absolutely clear what was happening.

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http://www.livestream.com/dragens

IT IS TIME FOR MEREDANDERS

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Gah! I go out for my weekly RuPaul's Drag Race session and the thread has gained 20 pages!

Is this livestream with Pseudo still going on? I've never used it before, is there anything I need to do?

Noticing a distinct lack of pictures on this page. This is, I believe, why Anders and Rogue!Hawke are awesome together:

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Also *kisses everyone*. I blame the copious amounts of Champagne I have consumed, yes! Oh dear!

Edit: Oh yeah, sorry for bad quality pic. Hmm, maybe I should sober up before posting more.

Modifié par AquilaChrysaetos86, 07 avril 2011 - 10:34 .


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Ooh, the return of Meredanders is the perfect time for me to post this:

EDIT: FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU

IMGUR HATES ME. Sorry guys. Eventually your banners will work again hopefully. :crying:

Modifié par YamiSnuffles, 07 avril 2011 - 10:29 .


#17923
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noxpanda wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Darling, you're asking the wrong people.  We are all flamingly gay for Anders.  Even the ladies.

Anders, I wish I knew how to quit you!


Lol :D Well thanks for the answer, i suppose i shall go back to fooling myself that i won't do yet another anders romance <3


What works for me is I make out with him anyway, then turn him down at the mansion. His little fit is adorable (especially if you say you can't do this because of Some Other Person) and you still get (pants).

#17924
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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

This is what the codex is for. Though TBH, I agree with you. Not everyone is going to catch the ambient stuff, and not everyone reads everything. And they shouldn't have to in order to get a clear picture of what's going on. I do wish BioWare had worked more of the background stuff into the foreground to make it absolutely clear what was happening.


As a rule of thumb for me, I read the Codex all the time and talk to random civilians all the time. But even then, after the codex and the ambient stuff, I didn't quite feel it. I felt that mages were being treated like ****, but it was the lack of an Orsino and Meredith characterization feeling that makes me feel unsatisfied. Still, I'm glad you agree with me. The background stuff should've definitely been worked into the foreground as you said

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Batteries wrote...

T3hAnubis wrote...

Was this posted?
http://sandara.devia...t.com/#/d3deral
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/iwanttotouchhishairsobad

Aww, I got ninja'd while taking too long to post. But so glad it was with this image. :wub: I will join you in that wish. Guh.