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sassperella wrote...

hmm just noticed the patch notes. Looks like Izzy's bug is fixed and Merril's story one but no mention of Anders's rivalry path fix. Maybe it'll be on the platform specific stuff or maybe it was discovered too late for the upcoming patch.


Aww damn. Just read them too. Well, we can still hope. It does say 'various other story-scripting issues'.

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Argh I went to check out the Announcement forums for the Anders short story and HAD to comment - I know it's futile and will just end up enraging me but I can't help it -.-

Anyway, I think there should be an ACTUAL new story just for people who like Anders.

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After reading through 30+ pages, I am exultant.

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 Sigh... made the mistake of looking at the other forums again........
Runs back to this thread and hides in the corner and cries :crying:

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Ninche wrote...

Argh I went to check out the Announcement forums for the Anders short story and HAD to comment - I know it's futile and will just end up enraging me but I can't help it -.-

Anyway, I think there should be an ACTUAL new story just for people who like Anders.


This seems like an excellent suggestion. Reward us for loving Anders in all his crazy, creeper glory. The rest of the world seems bent on yelling at us for it.

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Ninche wrote...

Argh I went to check out the Announcement forums for the Anders short story and HAD to comment - I know it's futile and will just end up enraging me but I can't help it -.-

Anyway, I think there should be an ACTUAL new story just for people who like Anders.


At least we have a story. Aveline fans still don't have one (Mary posted Varric's one in the Varric thread).

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Even Anders hate has taken over on facebook. Most comments are more b!tching about how gay he is and how their manly Hawkes couldn't resist pushing the big, glowy gold heart options.

They say it like it's a bad thing.

Modifié par Batteries, 09 avril 2011 - 12:24 .


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Even Anders hate has taken over on facebook. Most comments are more b!tching about how gay he is and how their manly Hawkes couldn't resist pushing the big, glowy gold heart options.

They say it like it's a bad thing.


Some people are so strange.

Embrace your inner anderstian/fanders, people!

"Come to the Anders thread, we have kisses and kittens!" (For everybody. See how much better it is when you don't hate him?)

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D'aaww look at this

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Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Even Anders hate has taken over on facebook. Most comments are more b!tching about how gay he is and how their manly Hawkes couldn't resist pushing the big, glowy gold heart options.

They say it like it's a bad thing.


Some people are so strange.


Aren't they just.... Thank goodness for this thread. 

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Even Anders hate has taken over on facebook. Most comments are more b!tching about how gay he is and how their manly Hawkes couldn't resist pushing the big, glowy gold heart options.

They say it like it's a bad thing.


My boyfriend recruited Anders for the first time yesterday and provoked some flirting by just being diplomatic. The fact that Anders likes you (in that way) doesn't bother him at all but he was annoyed that Anders comes on to you just because you happen to agree with him about mages. And the only way to make Anders NOT flirt with you is to bash mages or something, there should be a "I totally agree with you let's be mates" option instead of just "I hate you HISS" and "Lets get it on" So I kind of see his point, I see why little straight boys would feel intimidated, maybe for the sake of real life diplomacy Anders shouldn't flirt with m!Hawke unless flirted with first. I know it's horrible and it makes me sad, but Anders is so hated already, it pains me that the developers have added another reason for people to dislike him accidentally. 

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Ninche wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Even Anders hate has taken over on facebook. Most comments are more b!tching about how gay he is and how their manly Hawkes couldn't resist pushing the big, glowy gold heart options.

They say it like it's a bad thing.


My boyfriend recruited Anders for the first time yesterday and provoked some flirting by just being diplomatic. The fact that Anders likes you (in that way) doesn't bother him at all but he was annoyed that Anders comes on to you just because you happen to agree with him about mages. And the only way to make Anders NOT flirt with you is to bash mages or something, there should be a "I totally agree with you let's be mates" option instead of just "I hate you HISS" and "Lets get it on" So I kind of see his point, I see why little straight boys would feel intimidated, maybe for the sake of real life diplomacy Anders shouldn't flirt with m!Hawke unless flirted with first. I know it's horrible and it makes me sad, but Anders is so hated already, it pains me that the developers have added another reason for people to dislike him accidentally. 


Suddenly after such a long time of being alone Anders meets a person who is supportive of him, kind and believes in his cause. It's logical that he would feel a connection with this person. How is that a 'reason for people to dislike him'? To quote Saemus, some people try very hard to be offended.

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Inzhuna wrote...

Ninche wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Even Anders hate has taken over on facebook. Most comments are more b!tching about how gay he is and how their manly Hawkes couldn't resist pushing the big, glowy gold heart options.

They say it like it's a bad thing.


My boyfriend recruited Anders for the first time yesterday and provoked some flirting by just being diplomatic. The fact that Anders likes you (in that way) doesn't bother him at all but he was annoyed that Anders comes on to you just because you happen to agree with him about mages. And the only way to make Anders NOT flirt with you is to bash mages or something, there should be a "I totally agree with you let's be mates" option instead of just "I hate you HISS" and "Lets get it on" So I kind of see his point, I see why little straight boys would feel intimidated, maybe for the sake of real life diplomacy Anders shouldn't flirt with m!Hawke unless flirted with first. I know it's horrible and it makes me sad, but Anders is so hated already, it pains me that the developers have added another reason for people to dislike him accidentally. 


Suddenly after such a long time of being alone Anders meets a person who is supportive of him, kind and believes in his cause. It's logical that he would feel a connection with this person. How is that a 'reason for people to dislike him'? To quote Saemus, some people try very hard to be offended.


Because some people don't think much. Most people don't care anough about characters to try and understand them. It's a pathetic and stupid excuse to dislike a character and be offended, but alot of people use it anyway. They're spreading the Anders hate all over the internet. I wouldn't mind as much if it had to do with the chantry and all that, but they dislike him because he is coming on to them - it's just so sad and painful to see. 

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Ninche wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Even Anders hate has taken over on facebook. Most comments are more b!tching about how gay he is and how their manly Hawkes couldn't resist pushing the big, glowy gold heart options.

They say it like it's a bad thing.


My boyfriend recruited Anders for the first time yesterday and provoked some flirting by just being diplomatic. The fact that Anders likes you (in that way) doesn't bother him at all but he was annoyed that Anders comes on to you just because you happen to agree with him about mages. And the only way to make Anders NOT flirt with you is to bash mages or something, there should be a "I totally agree with you let's be mates" option instead of just "I hate you HISS" and "Lets get it on" So I kind of see his point, I see why little straight boys would feel intimidated, maybe for the sake of real life diplomacy Anders shouldn't flirt with m!Hawke unless flirted with first. I know it's horrible and it makes me sad, but Anders is so hated already, it pains me that the developers have added another reason for people to dislike him accidentally. 


There is a total of 1 option that will lead to Anders flirting with you. If you take the snarky option below it, it's not a diss to mages at all. It's friendly ribbing, precisely the "I totally agree with you let's be mates" option you're talking about. The diplomatic approach, however, is one of the nicest things you can say to someone, and Anders takes it as though maybe you're interested. His response (paraphrased) is, "Beneath that scruffy exterior, there's a heart of gold." And then immediately he backtracks and says, "I'm sorry, I shouldn't presume."

Everyone makes a big deal about Anders' flirting, but it's really very mild. And even if you turn him down or brush it aside, the rivalry hit is tiny and there are plenty of ways to make it back up. There's nothing intimidating about it. It's far less overt than Zevran, for one thing.

Honestly, my feeling is that if people are made uncomfortable by it, then they have issues greater than something confined to a video game.

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Inzhuna wrote...

Ninche wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Even Anders hate has taken over on facebook. Most comments are more b!tching about how gay he is and how their manly Hawkes couldn't resist pushing the big, glowy gold heart options.

They say it like it's a bad thing.


My boyfriend recruited Anders for the first time yesterday and provoked some flirting by just being diplomatic. The fact that Anders likes you (in that way) doesn't bother him at all but he was annoyed that Anders comes on to you just because you happen to agree with him about mages. And the only way to make Anders NOT flirt with you is to bash mages or something, there should be a "I totally agree with you let's be mates" option instead of just "I hate you HISS" and "Lets get it on" So I kind of see his point, I see why little straight boys would feel intimidated, maybe for the sake of real life diplomacy Anders shouldn't flirt with m!Hawke unless flirted with first. I know it's horrible and it makes me sad, but Anders is so hated already, it pains me that the developers have added another reason for people to dislike him accidentally. 


Suddenly after such a long time of being alone Anders meets a person who is supportive of him, kind and believes in his cause. It's logical that he would feel a connection with this person. How is that a 'reason for people to dislike him'? To quote Saemus, some people try very hard to be offended.


Both sides of this debate have a point really.

But Bioware really should have thought about the fact that some straight guys playing the game wouldn't want another guy flirting with them. Even if it's just mild, and just a game.

Also: Do you realise how hard it is to romance another LI when Anders is flirtng with you regardless of gender!? Do you, Bioware? Do you!?!

Especially when he pulls the kicked-puppy look and... oh geez... :crying:
(This is WORSE than Alistair.)

Modifié par Dreaming-in-Shadow, 09 avril 2011 - 12:51 .


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Ninche wrote...

Inzhuna wrote...

Ninche wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Even Anders hate has taken over on facebook. Most comments are more b!tching about how gay he is and how their manly Hawkes couldn't resist pushing the big, glowy gold heart options.

They say it like it's a bad thing.


My boyfriend recruited Anders for the first time yesterday and provoked some flirting by just being diplomatic. The fact that Anders likes you (in that way) doesn't bother him at all but he was annoyed that Anders comes on to you just because you happen to agree with him about mages. And the only way to make Anders NOT flirt with you is to bash mages or something, there should be a "I totally agree with you let's be mates" option instead of just "I hate you HISS" and "Lets get it on" So I kind of see his point, I see why little straight boys would feel intimidated, maybe for the sake of real life diplomacy Anders shouldn't flirt with m!Hawke unless flirted with first. I know it's horrible and it makes me sad, but Anders is so hated already, it pains me that the developers have added another reason for people to dislike him accidentally. 


Suddenly after such a long time of being alone Anders meets a person who is supportive of him, kind and believes in his cause. It's logical that he would feel a connection with this person. How is that a 'reason for people to dislike him'? To quote Saemus, some people try very hard to be offended.


Because some people don't think much. Most people don't care anough about characters to try and understand them. It's a pathetic and stupid excuse to dislike a character and be offended, but alot of people use it anyway. They're spreading the Anders hate all over the internet. I wouldn't mind as much if it had to do with the chantry and all that, but they dislike him because he is coming on to them - it's just so sad and painful to see. 


Well that's just weird o_0 my bro went diplomatic on Anders, but he told me he just felt like they were 'BFFS FOR LYFE', not as if Anders was hitting on him.
I guess people interpret things differently.

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Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Both sides of this debate have a point really.

But Bioware really should have thought about the fact that some straight guys playing the game wouldn't want another guy flirting with them. Even if it's just mild, and just a game.

Also: Do you realise how hard it is to romance another LI when Anders is flirtng with you regardless of gender!? Do you, Bioware? Do you!?!

Especially when he pulls the kicked-puppy look and... oh geez... :crying:
(This is WORSE than Alistair.)




I'm curious: How many women have complained that Izzy comes onto them at the end of her first quest?

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Threeparts wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Both sides of this debate have a point really.

But Bioware really should have thought about the fact that some straight guys playing the game wouldn't want another guy flirting with them. Even if it's just mild, and just a game.

Also: Do you realise how hard it is to romance another LI when Anders is flirtng with you regardless of gender!? Do you, Bioware? Do you!?!

Especially when he pulls the kicked-puppy look and... oh geez... :crying:
(This is WORSE than Alistair.)




I'm curious: How many women have complained that Izzy comes onto them at the end of her first quest?


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highcastle wrote...

Ninche wrote...

Batteries wrote...

Even Anders hate has taken over on facebook. Most comments are more b!tching about how gay he is and how their manly Hawkes couldn't resist pushing the big, glowy gold heart options.

They say it like it's a bad thing.


My boyfriend recruited Anders for the first time yesterday and provoked some flirting by just being diplomatic. The fact that Anders likes you (in that way) doesn't bother him at all but he was annoyed that Anders comes on to you just because you happen to agree with him about mages. And the only way to make Anders NOT flirt with you is to bash mages or something, there should be a "I totally agree with you let's be mates" option instead of just "I hate you HISS" and "Lets get it on" So I kind of see his point, I see why little straight boys would feel intimidated, maybe for the sake of real life diplomacy Anders shouldn't flirt with m!Hawke unless flirted with first. I know it's horrible and it makes me sad, but Anders is so hated already, it pains me that the developers have added another reason for people to dislike him accidentally. 


There is a total of 1 option that will lead to Anders flirting with you. If you take the snarky option below it, it's not a diss to mages at all. It's friendly ribbing, precisely the "I totally agree with you let's be mates" option you're talking about. The diplomatic approach, however, is one of the nicest things you can say to someone, and Anders takes it as though maybe you're interested. His response (paraphrased) is, "Beneath that scruffy exterior, there's a heart of gold." And then immediately he backtracks and says, "I'm sorry, I shouldn't presume."

Everyone makes a big deal about Anders' flirting, but it's really very mild. And even if you turn him down or brush it aside, the rivalry hit is tiny and there are plenty of ways to make it back up. There's nothing intimidating about it. It's far less overt than Zevran, for one thing.

Honestly, my feeling is that if people are made uncomfortable by it, then they have issues greater than something confined to a video game.


This. I think a lot of those straight guys are just being too sensitive. Maybe they are on their man period or something.

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Threeparts wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Both sides of this debate have a point really.

But Bioware really should have thought about the fact that some straight guys playing the game wouldn't want another guy flirting with them. Even if it's just mild, and just a game.

Also: Do you realise how hard it is to romance another LI when Anders is flirtng with you regardless of gender!? Do you, Bioware? Do you!?!

Especially when he pulls the kicked-puppy look and... oh geez... :crying:
(This is WORSE than Alistair.)



I'm curious: How many women have complained that Izzy comes onto them at the end of her first quest?


I didn't xD
It confused my boyfriend.

I find that my reaction
to flirting is a bit different; most of my male friends would go about
hugging eachother, and saying stuff like 'I LOVE YOU MAN' just 'cause,
hey, they were friends. And the girls would poke eachothers boobs. Just
'cause.

Am I weird?

Edit: I broke the quote tags xD

Modifié par ekurian, 09 avril 2011 - 12:56 .


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Threeparts wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Both sides of this debate have a point really.

But Bioware really should have thought about the fact that some straight guys playing the game wouldn't want another guy flirting with them. Even if it's just mild, and just a game.

Also: Do you realise how hard it is to romance another LI when Anders is flirtng with you regardless of gender!? Do you, Bioware? Do you!?!

Especially when he pulls the kicked-puppy look and... oh geez... :crying:
(This is WORSE than Alistair.)




I'm curious: How many women have complained that Izzy comes onto them at the end of her first quest?


Not me. :devil:

Also, it's Isabela. We all knew it was coming. :whistle:

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Threeparts wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Both sides of this debate have a point really.

But Bioware really should have thought about the fact that some straight guys playing the game wouldn't want another guy flirting with them. Even if it's just mild, and just a game.

Also: Do you realise how hard it is to romance another LI when Anders is flirtng with you regardless of gender!? Do you, Bioware? Do you!?!

Especially when he pulls the kicked-puppy look and... oh geez... :crying:
(This is WORSE than Alistair.)




I'm curious: How many women have complained that Izzy comes onto them at the end of her first quest?


That's what I said (because I had this argument with the bf yesterday) and he went: you're a woman. 
As sexist as that sounds it's sort of true. We all know getting offended at Anders flirting with you is nothing short of idiotic, but people get offended non the less. I'm just saying instead of paraphrasing our arguments and convincing each other of all the things we ALL know ANYWAY, we need to accept that straight guys can be quite basic and find a way to deal with it. I'd rather they didn't have 'more stupid reasons to hate him. Is all I'm saying. 

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ekurian wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Both sides of this debate have a point really.

But Bioware really should have thought about the fact that some straight guys playing the game wouldn't want another guy flirting with them. Even if it's just mild, and just a game.

Also: Do you realise how hard it is to romance another LI when Anders is flirtng with you regardless of gender!? Do you, Bioware? Do you!?!

Especially when he pulls the kicked-puppy look and... oh geez... :crying:
(This is WORSE than Alistair.)



I'm curious: How many women have complained that Izzy comes onto them at the end of her first quest?


I didn't xD
It confused my boyfriend.

I find that my reaction
to flirting is a bit different; most of my male friends would go about
hugging eachother, and saying stuff like 'I LOVE YOU MAN' just 'cause,
hey, they were friends. And the girls would poke eachothers boobs. Just
'cause.

Am I weird?

Edit: I broke the quote tags xD


True. The guys I know seem to be very huggy people...

Weird is normal on this thread. XD

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Ninche wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Both sides of this debate have a point really.

But Bioware really should have thought about the fact that some straight guys playing the game wouldn't want another guy flirting with them. Even if it's just mild, and just a game.

Also: Do you realise how hard it is to romance another LI when Anders is flirtng with you regardless of gender!? Do you, Bioware? Do you!?!

Especially when he pulls the kicked-puppy look and... oh geez... :crying:
(This is WORSE than Alistair.)




I'm curious: How many women have complained that Izzy comes onto them at the end of her first quest?


That's what I said (because I had this argument with the bf yesterday) and he went: you're a woman. 
As sexist as that sounds it's sort of true. We all know getting offended at Anders flirting with you is nothing short of idiotic, but people get offended non the less. I'm just saying instead of paraphrasing our arguments and convincing each other of all the things we ALL know ANYWAY, we need to accept that straight guys can be quite basic and find a way to deal with it. I'd rather they didn't have 'more stupid reasons to hate him. Is all I'm saying. 


Ugh, there was a whole controversial thread about majority and entitlement, and I think this kind of fits right into it. :? Anyway I have to disagree with the "shut up and deal with it" notion, for many, many reasons, but i do not wish to elaborate because 1)i have a headache from last night and 2)i have to get ready to work my 9 hour shift :(

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Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

ekurian wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

I'm curious: How many women have complained that Izzy comes onto them at the end of her first quest?


I didn't xD
It confused my boyfriend.

I find that my reaction
to flirting is a bit different; most of my male friends would go about
hugging eachother, and saying stuff like 'I LOVE YOU MAN' just 'cause,
hey, they were friends. And the girls would poke eachothers boobs. Just
'cause.

Am I weird?

Edit: I broke the quote tags xD


True. The guys I know seem to be very huggy people...

Weird is normal on this thread. XD


We're the united forces of weird /D

I would like to congratulate Bioware on causing such un uproar over sexuality. I always thought they were very bold with Zevran and Leliana, and they've taken another step in DA2 by making everyone available for anyone. I was actually quite pleased when I heard all LIs were bi :D