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[Ryzaki]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Ugh. I forced myself to read the whole series of Twilight. While the original isn't so bad good lord I hate hate hate New Moon with the hatred of a thousand suns. "Oh I'm all suicidal! EDWARD!" So utterly pathetic.

Are you a masochist?

Nah I just like being able to rip a book to shreads and actually be validated by the fact that I actually read the book and not just some lame summarization. 

Plus there's the fact that people sometimes forget some really headdesk wothy things. 

[Kaioku]

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Thought I would respond to this seeing as I'm still awake. Sorry if it's a little incoherent! Nearly 3 am here.

Half past four am, but I gotta work the minute I wake up, I'm trying to put it off.

See, I have to say, I really don't see it like that. I don't really get the Edward Cullen thing at all. In Twilight it seems to me that Edward is saying; 'I want to hurt you, but I'm resisting.' Whereas I see Anders more like; 'I don't want to hurt you, but I might anyway simply by existing due to forces outside of my control.'
I played my canon fem!Hawke as someone who took this warning and said 'Okay, but there's a risk of getting hurt in any relationship, and I'm a big girl. I can take it.' Rather than a Bella sort of character, who honestly makes me weep for feminism. Ugh, Twilight, why must you ruin so many things?

Really, had he pulled a complete Sparkleson, complete with threats-disguised-as-warnings and telling Hawkes all over alternate Thedas-verses he wouldn't/couldn't let them go no matter what they thought of that to sweeten the deal, the murder-knifing would have taken place in the middle of his post-Karl conversation.  
No no, it's really not that bad, as I said, he's a billion times better written, thus, of course his words have more depth and another meaning entirely.
But I got stuck on the giant alarm bell going off in my head.
All I heard was: "I'll hurt you!" Hawke Going: "Naaaw, I'm a big girl, I can take care of myself" and him: "No."
....I know that's not what he meant, but he SAID IT! 
That wasn't all there was to my instant recoil, but it is a decent enough example. The phrasing gave me a creep-vibe. 
As I said, I'm traumatized by four books of F*CK.
No point dwelling on it, you get me, I get you. :>

Sleep tight!


Edit:

Ryzaki wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Ugh. I forced myself to read the whole series of Twilight. While the original isn't so bad good lord I hate hate hate New Moon with the hatred of a thousand suns. "Oh I'm all suicidal! EDWARD!" So utterly pathetic. 

Are you a masochist?

Nah I just like being able to rip a book to shreads and actually be validated by the fact that I actually read the book and not just some lame summarization. 

Plus there's the fact that people sometimes forget some really headdesk wothy things. 

THIS FOREVER.

Modifié par Kaioku, 10 avril 2011 - 02:32 .

[AquilaChrysaetos86]

@Payroo and Ryzaki: Dear lord, you actually managed to sit through that much? I gave up after the first page!
It probably didn't help that my creepy ex bought them for me because he thought I needed to learn about real romance.

Modifié par AquilaChrysaetos86, 10 avril 2011 - 02:30 .

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

I blame the writers though for being to lazy to write evolution into the companion relationships. That and probably pressed for time but really it's jarring when no one in the game notices how you play.

[Ryzaki]

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

@Payroo and Ryzaki: Dear lord, you actually managed to sit through that much? I gave up after the first page.
It probably didn't help that my creepy ex bought them for me because he thought I needed to learn about real romance. Ick.

*jaw drops*

D:

Unbelievable. 

It may sound petty but I would've dumped someone for some crap like that. 

[Purposeof-Flight]

Ryzaki wrote...

Ugh. I forced myself to read the whole series of Twilight. While the original isn't so bad good lord I hate hate hate New Moon with the hatred of a thousand suns. "Oh I'm all suicidal! EDWARD!" So utterly pathetic.

And UGH. Fenris is irking me. "I never thought to cause my mage a friend. Is anyone's life affected by magic who actually benefits." Oh I dunno maybe the fact that a mage SAVED YOU FROM SLAVERY would be a good thing. UGH. Sometimes he pisses me off enough to want to hand him to Danarius. If only Danarius wasn't so creepy and cheap I actually might hand Fenris over.

Screw Twilight.
I almost hacked up a lung laughing when I read in a magazine that Stephenie Meyer was the new JK Rowling.
I was like, "REALLY? JK Rowling created a WHOLE NEW WORLD. Twilight took so little imagination, it's not even funny."

Oh and don't get me started on the movies.
And Rob Pattinson's "Imgonnapukeimgonnapuke" faces during the kiss scenes.
I'm sitting next to my best friend (who happens to be a Grade A TwiTard) going WTF is this? WTF is THAT? While she's trying to get me to shut up so she can gaze lovingly at Rob Pattinson's pale creepy face while memorizing the corny ridiculous lines he spews.

Modifié par Purposeof-Flight, 10 avril 2011 - 02:35 .

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

@Payroo and Ryzaki: Dear lord, you actually managed to sit through that much? I gave up after the first page!
It probably didn't help that my creepy ex bought them for me because he thought I needed to learn about real romance.

Did he want to chain you to the stove as well?XD

[Ryzaki]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...
Screw Twilight.
I almost hacked up a lung laughing when I read in a magazine that Stephenie Meyer was the new JK Rowling.
I was like, "REALLY? JK Rowling created a WHOLE NEW WORLD. Twilight took so little imagination, it's not even funny."

*headdesks*

Ugh. 

Granted I think HP took  turn for the worse after book 5 but still. ...JK Rowling is MILES above Meyer. MILES. 

And yeah Twilight ugh. 

I will give Meyer something. She made a cash cow. But it certainly isn't great literature. 

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Step 1: Write a book series based off your wet dreams.
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Profit the hell out of it.

[Sylph_14]

Man, I never realized how pale Anders is until I tried to paint him o_O

[Purposeof-Flight]

Ryzaki wrote...

Purposeof-Flight wrote...
Screw Twilight.
I almost hacked up a lung laughing when I read in a magazine that Stephenie Meyer was the new JK Rowling.
I was like, "REALLY? JK Rowling created a WHOLE NEW WORLD. Twilight took so little imagination, it's not even funny."

*headdesks*

Ugh. 

Granted I think HP took  turn for the worse after book 5 but still. ...JK Rowling is MILES above Meyer. MILES. 

And yeah Twilight ugh. 

I will give Meyer something. She made a cash cow. But it certainly isn't great literature. 

I must agree with you there.
But it's not even Stephenie Meyer's fault and I still hold her personally accountable for that article. <_<

[Lady Jess]

Ryzaki wrote...

Purposeof-Flight wrote...
Screw Twilight.
I almost hacked up a lung laughing when I read in a magazine that Stephenie Meyer was the new JK Rowling.
I was like, "REALLY? JK Rowling created a WHOLE NEW WORLD. Twilight took so little imagination, it's not even funny."

*headdesks*

Ugh. 

Granted I think HP took  turn for the worse after book 5 but still. ...JK Rowling is MILES above Meyer. MILES. 

And yeah Twilight ugh. 

I will give Meyer something. She made a cash cow. But it certainly isn't great literature. 

She definitely boosted the economy in Forks, WA.

[leggywillow]

Sylph_14 wrote...

Man, I never realized how pale Anders is until I tried to paint him o_O

It took me a minute to realize what you could be referring to.  All I could think was "Body paint?  Kinky!"

...I've been hanging out in the Anders thread waaaaay too much.

[Kaioku]

Ryzaki wrote...

Purposeof-Flight wrote...
Screw Twilight.
I almost hacked up a lung laughing when I read in a magazine that Stephenie Meyer was the new JK Rowling.
I was like, "REALLY? JK Rowling created a WHOLE NEW WORLD. Twilight took so little imagination, it's not even funny."

*headdesks*

Ugh. 

Granted I think HP took  turn for the worse after book 5 but still. ...JK Rowling is MILES above Meyer. MILES. 

And yeah Twilight ugh. 

I will give Meyer something. She made a cash cow. But it certainly isn't great literature. 

Stephen King put it quite wonderfully:

Both Rowling and Meyer, they’re speaking directly to young people… The real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer and Stephenie Meyer can’t write worth a darn. She’s not very good.”

today.msnbc.msn.com/id/29001524/ns/today-entertainment/

[Ryzaki]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Step 1: Write a book series based off your wet dreams.
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Profit the hell out of it.

LOL

@Purpose: That's mean.  

@Kaioku: That is a very true quote. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 10 avril 2011 - 02:39 .

[phantomdragoness]

Sarielle wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

See, I have to say, I really don't see it like that. I don't really get the Edward Cullen thing at all. In Twilight it seems to me that Edward is saying; 'I want to hurt you, but I'm resisting.' Whereas I see Anders more like; 'I don't want to hurt you, but I might anyway simply by existing due to forces outside of my control.'
I played my canon fem!Hawke as someone who took this warning and said 'Okay, but there's a risk of getting hurt in any relationship, and I'm a big girl. I can take it.' Rather than a Bella sort of character, who honestly makes me weep for feminism. Ugh, Twilight, why must you ruin so many things?

I can also see a naive idealist who thought she could "fix" him maybe doing it, as well.

Though honestly, while I enjoyed doing the Fenris romance on my canon playthrough (figuring it was pretty well doomed to fail), I had a hard time with him and my mage. He was all "all mages suck!" way too frequently, and RL me wanted to smack his face for him.

I had to attribute it to the two of them having just mad sexual chemistry and little else. Course, she did kill him in the end....

I HATE it when people compare Anders to Edward Cullen. Yes, there are some similarities, but I agree with what the above posts stated. Anders does not want to hurt Hawke, and he resists for as long as anyone is mentally able to before they realize: "I love this person too much to just pass up the chance." That's how my Lady Hawke saw it; she understood that Anders is dangerous - any abomination is (though, I wouldn't call Anders a total abomination because he has retained his humanity), but she loved him despite this. She knew that loving him would be hard, he warned her as much, and at first she figured that she could "fix" him; but as the years passed, she realized that "fixing" him was not something she could do - all she could do was be there for him, and that made her and him content and it brought them together.

In the movie Hellboy, this one quote rings true for the relationship: "You like a person for their qualities. You love them for their defects."

I hope all that made some sort of sense - I'm distracted by filling out my financial aid. >_<


EDIT: And, omg, if anyone ever compares Stephenie Meyer to J.K. Rowling, I will leave the hole in their arse 10x larger.

Modifié par phantomdragoness, 10 avril 2011 - 02:43 .

[Purposeof-Flight]

Kaioku wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Purposeof-Flight wrote...
Screw Twilight.
I almost hacked up a lung laughing when I read in a magazine that Stephenie Meyer was the new JK Rowling.
I was like, "REALLY? JK Rowling created a WHOLE NEW WORLD. Twilight took so little imagination, it's not even funny."

*headdesks*

Ugh. 

Granted I think HP took  turn for the worse after book 5 but still. ...JK Rowling is MILES above Meyer. MILES. 

And yeah Twilight ugh. 

I will give Meyer something. She made a cash cow. But it certainly isn't great literature. 

Stephen King put it quite wonderfully:

Both Rowling and Meyer, they’re speaking directly to young people… The real difference is that Jo Rowling is a terrific writer and Stephenie Meyer can’t write worth a darn. She’s not very good.”

today.msnbc.msn.com/id/29001524/ns/today-entertainment/

YES. BEST QUOTE EVER.

[Sylph_14]

leggywillow wrote...

Sylph_14 wrote...

Man, I never realized how pale Anders is until I tried to paint him o_O

It took me a minute to realize what you could be referring to.  All I could think was "Body paint?  Kinky!"

...I've been hanging out in the Anders thread waaaaay too much.

Haha, I wish, nothing nearly that fun though ;q

[Purposeof-Flight]

leggywillow wrote...

Sylph_14 wrote...

Man, I never realized how pale Anders is until I tried to paint him o_O

It took me a minute to realize what you could be referring to.  All I could think was "Body paint?  Kinky!"

...I've been hanging out in the Anders thread waaaaay too much.

Oh Leggy.
You love this thread....

You see, when I came here I was just a sarcastic comedian. But then this thread's perviness turned me into a DEPRAVED PERV sarcomedian.
And I love it. <3

[Purposeof-Flight]

phantomdragoness wrote...

Sarielle wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

See, I have to say, I really don't see it like that. I don't really get the Edward Cullen thing at all. In Twilight it seems to me that Edward is saying; 'I want to hurt you, but I'm resisting.' Whereas I see Anders more like; 'I don't want to hurt you, but I might anyway simply by existing due to forces outside of my control.'
I played my canon fem!Hawke as someone who took this warning and said 'Okay, but there's a risk of getting hurt in any relationship, and I'm a big girl. I can take it.' Rather than a Bella sort of character, who honestly makes me weep for feminism. Ugh, Twilight, why must you ruin so many things?

I can also see a naive idealist who thought she could "fix" him maybe doing it, as well.

Though honestly, while I enjoyed doing the Fenris romance on my canon playthrough (figuring it was pretty well doomed to fail), I had a hard time with him and my mage. He was all "all mages suck!" way too frequently, and RL me wanted to smack his face for him.

I had to attribute it to the two of them having just mad sexual chemistry and little else. Course, she did kill him in the end....

I HATE it when people compare Anders to Edward Cullen. Yes, there are some similarities, but I agree with what the above posts stated. Anders does not want to hurt Hawke, and he resists for as long as anyone is mentally able to before they realize: "I love this person too much to just pass up the chance." That's how my Lady Hawke saw it; she understood that Anders is dangerous - any abomination is (though, I wouldn't call Anders a total abomination because he has retained his humanity), but she loved him despite this. She knew that loving him would be hard, he warned her as much, and at first she figured that she could "fix" him; but as the years passed, she realized that "fixing" him was not something she could do - all she could do was be there for him, and that made her and him content and it brought them together.

In the movie Hellboy, this one quote rings true for the relationship: "You like a person for their qualities. You love them for their defects."

I hope all that made some sort of sense - I'm distracted by filling out my financial aid. >_<

I hope and pray to god that someone compares Anders to Edward Cullen anywhere near me.
I've been needing an outlet for my anger...you know, for those crappy days.

[AquilaChrysaetos86]

Kaioku wrote...
Really, had he pulled a complete Sparkleson, complete with threats-disguised-as-warnings and telling Hawkes all over alternate Thedas-verses he wouldn't/couldn't let them go no matter what they thought of that to sweeten the deal, the murder-knifing would have taken place in the middle of his post-Karl conversation. /images/forum/emoticons/pouty.png
No no, it's really not that bad, as I said, he's a billion times better written, thus, of course his words have more depth and another meaning entirely.
But I got stuck on the giant alarm bell going off in my head.
All I heard was: "I'll hurt you!" Hawke Going: "Naaaw, I'm a big girl, I can take care of myself" and him: "No."
....I know that's not what he meant, but he SAID IT!
That wasn't all there was to my instant recoil, but it is a decent enough example. The phrasing gave me a creep-vibe.
As I said, I'm traumatized by four books of F*CK.
No point dwelling on it, you get me, I get you. :>

Sleep tight!

Nah, fair doos, it's not for everyone. I just get where he's coming from, so it doesn't bother me so much. Plus I haven't read the books. I am untainted by the Meyers disease!

I wish you dreams of Meredanders (and not that other one, eurgh!). Night!

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
@Payroo and Ryzaki: Dear lord, you actually managed to sit through that much? I gave up after the first page!
It probably didn't help that my creepy ex bought them for me because he thought I needed to learn about real romance.

Did he want to chain you to the stove as well?XD

Ryzaki
*jaw drops*

D:

Unbelievable.

It may sound petty but I would've dumped someone for some crap like that.

Oh believe me, it's definately an insta-dump offense now.

I mentioned it before, but it probably got lost. Compared to my ex's crazy Anders = a step up. Which is probably why the Chantry Jenga doesn't bother me so much. I'm just like 'Oh you.' *nudge* 'Now lets skip off into this sunset over here.'
I'm exaggerating, but you get the idea.

[JesterPsychotica]

wut.

[phantomdragoness]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

phantomdragoness wrote...

Sarielle wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

See, I have to say, I really don't see it like that. I don't really get the Edward Cullen thing at all. In Twilight it seems to me that Edward is saying; 'I want to hurt you, but I'm resisting.' Whereas I see Anders more like; 'I don't want to hurt you, but I might anyway simply by existing due to forces outside of my control.'
I played my canon fem!Hawke as someone who took this warning and said 'Okay, but there's a risk of getting hurt in any relationship, and I'm a big girl. I can take it.' Rather than a Bella sort of character, who honestly makes me weep for feminism. Ugh, Twilight, why must you ruin so many things?

I can also see a naive idealist who thought she could "fix" him maybe doing it, as well.

Though honestly, while I enjoyed doing the Fenris romance on my canon playthrough (figuring it was pretty well doomed to fail), I had a hard time with him and my mage. He was all "all mages suck!" way too frequently, and RL me wanted to smack his face for him.

I had to attribute it to the two of them having just mad sexual chemistry and little else. Course, she did kill him in the end....

I HATE it when people compare Anders to Edward Cullen. Yes, there are some similarities, but I agree with what the above posts stated. Anders does not want to hurt Hawke, and he resists for as long as anyone is mentally able to before they realize: "I love this person too much to just pass up the chance." That's how my Lady Hawke saw it; she understood that Anders is dangerous - any abomination is (though, I wouldn't call Anders a total abomination because he has retained his humanity), but she loved him despite this. She knew that loving him would be hard, he warned her as much, and at first she figured that she could "fix" him; but as the years passed, she realized that "fixing" him was not something she could do - all she could do was be there for him, and that made her and him content and it brought them together.

In the movie Hellboy, this one quote rings true for the relationship: "You like a person for their qualities. You love them for their defects."

I hope all that made some sort of sense - I'm distracted by filling out my financial aid. >_<

I hope and pray to god that someone compares Anders to Edward Cullen anywhere near me.
I've been needing an outlet for my anger...you know, for those crappy days.

Let me know when you find someone who does. I need an outlet too.

[SidheKate]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Step 1: Write a book series based off your wet dreams.
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Profit the hell out of it.

I believe for step two, we quote Isabela: Something exciting happens.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]