nekhbet wrote...
Oh, I'm thinking in psychological terms and not just the relationship kind of codependency.
Checklist for Anders!
http://www.coda.org/...atterns-new.htm
Kawamura wrote...
Purposeof-Flight wrote...
My family, too, actually. lol
I think he should've just stuck with the Circle. If I were given the choice between life in the Circle and the Grey Wardens, I think I would choose the Circle. But I guess no one can say that with certainty....since no one's lived it.
He doesn't have many bad things to say about Ferelden's Circle, though....I bet he got to Kirkwall and realized how good he actually had it.
I dunno.
I understand Anders' boner for the idea of freedom. Always, freedom works out to be messier than it is. I think, though, that I'd --
Actually, I don't know. I'm pretty nerdy and probably useless in a fight against darkspawn. But maybe I'd take the Grey Wardens. Better than being trapped. And maybe even a chance to see the world (hopefully, more above ground than Deep Roadsy), to interact with people, and maybe even do some good.
Yeah I'd be pretty useless, too.
I probably wouldn't survive my Joining, because I have a really low pain tolerance and I have incredibly bad luck. The combination of both is terrible.
Kawamura wrote...
nekhbet wrote...
Oh, I'm thinking in psychological terms and not just the relationship kind of codependency.
Checklist for Anders!
http://www.coda.org/...atterns-new.htm
Okay, that's not fair.
I don't consider masking pain with humor a bad thing. I mean, how else are you going to live? Sit down and have little "I feel like this" pow wows whenever your feelings get hurt? *grumbles*
Modifié par nekhbet, 10 avril 2011 - 05:22 .
Batteries wrote...
Purposeof-Flight wrote...
he runs into another person hell bent on dragging him along on tons of escapades.
I wondered about that. Yeah Hawke did help him and he did give Hawke his maps, but why volunteer to go to the Deep Roads and stick around?
Why not just leave it at that?
Jumping in to add my two cents, if that's ok, just to totally agree with this. I know this won't be the case in everyone's playthrough but certainly in mine he says something along the lines of "Thank you for not running away" when he first tells Hawke about his situation with Justice. To me, this speaks volumes. He can see in himself that he is dangerous and soemthing that others should be disgusted by or fearful of, and suddenly after quite some time of emotional seclusion he meets this person who doesn't react in this anticipated way - it's not surprising to me then that he wouldn't want to let go of that and would volunteer himself to go into the Deep Roads if it meant having someone in his life who understands what he's going through.SurelyForth wrote...
Batteries wrote...
Purposeof-Flight wrote...
he runs into another person hell bent on dragging him along on tons of escapades.
I wondered about that. Yeah Hawke did help him and he did give Hawke his maps, but why volunteer to go to the Deep Roads and stick around?
Why not just leave it at that?
I think it's because he did like what he was doing in Awakening. It was probably personally rewarding and sometimes even fun for him to be out and about, getting to use his talents for the greater good. Then there's the social aspect of it. He's so lonely when we meet him in DA2 and so closed off because of his secret. I think that, when he meets Hawke, he sees someone capable of handling him, and maybe even understanding him, and he jumps on that.
Modifié par purplecookie, 10 avril 2011 - 05:24 .
Yenaquai wrote...
I think this might be relevant to our interest. It contains Anders. And delicious art:
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By the awesome and just as crazy kundagi.
purplecookie wrote...
Jumping in to add my two cents, if that's ok, just to totally agree with this. I know this won't be the case in everyone's playthrough but certainly in mine he says something along the lines of "Thank you for not running away" when he first tells Hawke about his situation with Justice. To me, this speaks volumes. He can see in himself that he is dangerous and soemthing that others should be disgusted by or fearful of, and suddenly after quite some time of emotional seclusion he meets this person who doesn't react in this anticipated way - it's not surprising to me then that he wouldn't want to let go of that and would volunteer himself to go into the Deep Roads if it meant having someone in his life who understands what he's going through.SurelyForth wrote...
Batteries wrote...
Purposeof-Flight wrote...
he runs into another person hell bent on dragging him along on tons of escapades.
I wondered about that. Yeah Hawke did help him and he did give Hawke his maps, but why volunteer to go to the Deep Roads and stick around?
Why not just leave it at that?
I think it's because he did like what he was doing in Awakening. It was probably personally rewarding and sometimes even fun for him to be out and about, getting to use his talents for the greater good. Then there's the social aspect of it. He's so lonely when we meet him in DA2 and so closed off because of his secret. I think that, when he meets Hawke, he sees someone capable of handling him, and maybe even understanding him, and he jumps on that.
Edit: Also, what shiba5 says
purplecookie wrote...
Jumping in to add my two cents, if that's ok, just to totally agree with this. I know this won't be the case in everyone's playthrough but certainly in mine he says something along the lines of "Thank you for not running away" when he first tells Hawke about his situation with Justice. To me, this speaks volumes. He can see in himself that he is dangerous and soemthing that others should be disgusted by or fearful of, and suddenly after quite some time of emotional seclusion he meets this person who doesn't react in this anticipated way - it's not surprising to me then that he wouldn't want to let go of that and would volunteer himself to go into the Deep Roads if it meant having someone in his life who understands what he's going through.
Edit: Also, what shiba5 says
Modifié par nekhbet, 10 avril 2011 - 05:28 .
purplecookie wrote...
Jumping in to add my two cents, if that's ok, just to totally agree with this. I know this won't be the case in everyone's playthrough but certainly in mine he says something along the lines of "Thank you for not running away" when he first tells Hawke about his situation with Justice. To me, this speaks volumes. He can see in himself that he is dangerous and soemthing that others should be disgusted by or fearful of, and suddenly after quite some time of emotional seclusion he meets this person who doesn't react in this anticipated way - it's not surprising to me then that he wouldn't want to let go of that and would volunteer himself to go into the Deep Roads if it meant having someone in his life who understands what he's going through.SurelyForth wrote...
Batteries wrote...
Purposeof-Flight wrote...
he runs into another person hell bent on dragging him along on tons of escapades.
I wondered about that. Yeah Hawke did help him and he did give Hawke his maps, but why volunteer to go to the Deep Roads and stick around?
Why not just leave it at that?
I think it's because he did like what he was doing in Awakening. It was probably personally rewarding and sometimes even fun for him to be out and about, getting to use his talents for the greater good. Then there's the social aspect of it. He's so lonely when we meet him in DA2 and so closed off because of his secret. I think that, when he meets Hawke, he sees someone capable of handling him, and maybe even understanding him, and he jumps on that.
Edit: Also, what shiba5 says
Purposeof-Flight wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
Purposeof-Flight wrote...
My family, too, actually. lol
I think he should've just stuck with the Circle. If I were given the choice between life in the Circle and the Grey Wardens, I think I would choose the Circle. But I guess no one can say that with certainty....since no one's lived it.
He doesn't have many bad things to say about Ferelden's Circle, though....I bet he got to Kirkwall and realized how good he actually had it.
I dunno.
I understand Anders' boner for the idea of freedom. Always, freedom works out to be messier than it is. I think, though, that I'd --
Actually, I don't know. I'm pretty nerdy and probably useless in a fight against darkspawn. But maybe I'd take the Grey Wardens. Better than being trapped. And maybe even a chance to see the world (hopefully, more above ground than Deep Roadsy), to interact with people, and maybe even do some good.
Probably why I'd rather live my life hiding in the Circle Tower than go fighting those creepy ass darkspawn.
A) I'm a giant sissy and would scream my head off the minute I saw one.
C) The nightmares would drive me mad.
D) The voices would drive me mad.
And btw, I want to comment on the word "tragiboner". Fantastic. Just fantastic. Hahha
nekhbet wrote...
purplecookie wrote...
Jumping in to add my two cents, if that's ok, just to totally agree with this. I know this won't be the case in everyone's playthrough but certainly in mine he says something along the lines of "Thank you for not running away" when he first tells Hawke about his situation with Justice. To me, this speaks volumes. He can see in himself that he is dangerous and soemthing that others should be disgusted by or fearful of, and suddenly after quite some time of emotional seclusion he meets this person who doesn't react in this anticipated way - it's not surprising to me then that he wouldn't want to let go of that and would volunteer himself to go into the Deep Roads if it meant having someone in his life who understands what he's going through.
Edit: Also, what shiba5 says
Yeah, that, too. He latches on the first person who doesn't run away after seeing what he is. And combined with the rest of his personality... he's gonna hold on to his dear life, no matter how much he gets kicked around like a puppy by said person.
nekhbet wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
nekhbet wrote...
Oh, I'm thinking in psychological terms and not just the relationship kind of codependency.
Checklist for Anders!
http://www.coda.org/...atterns-new.htm
Okay, that's not fair.
I don't consider masking pain with humor a bad thing. I mean, how else are you going to live? Sit down and have little "I feel like this" pow wows whenever your feelings get hurt? *grumbles*
All personality disorder and psychology stuff should be read with the conditional "does the trait make one's life more miserable or not", and they're only disorder if the answer is yes.
I'm one of the people who use heavy humour as coping mechanism, too, but I don't feel it in any way hurts me and neither do the people around me, so it's not a problem. But for some, it may be.
I love these checklists for creating characters, btw.
GailRana wrote...
Upsettingshorts wrote...
Oh you don't have to tell me. I only follow it to the minimal extent I do because it's popular and a common discussion topic, and I like to be able to say something more substantial than "Twilight sucks." It helps me come off as an interesting and impressive person.
you get extra points for the Bit Of Fry And Laurie skit (or heck, even knowing A Bit Of Fry And Laurie!)
Kawamura wrote...
IDK. He made me a little wary from the start. So whenever someone goes "BUT ANDERS USED TO BE FUNNY WHERE'S FUNNY ANDERS" I think "maybe you weren't paying attention..."
Kawamura wrote...
nekhbet wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
nekhbet wrote...
Oh, I'm thinking in psychological terms and not just the relationship kind of codependency.
Checklist for Anders!
http://www.coda.org/...atterns-new.htm
Okay, that's not fair.
I don't consider masking pain with humor a bad thing. I mean, how else are you going to live? Sit down and have little "I feel like this" pow wows whenever your feelings get hurt? *grumbles*
All personality disorder and psychology stuff should be read with the conditional "does the trait make one's life more miserable or not", and they're only disorder if the answer is yes.
I'm one of the people who use heavy humour as coping mechanism, too, but I don't feel it in any way hurts me and neither do the people around me, so it's not a problem. But for some, it may be.
I love these checklists for creating characters, btw.
... oh, okay.
Well, then. *awkward cough*
This is sorta like when I got that super higher Autism Quotient on that little test Wired had. Still think it's unfairly weighted for scientists/engineers/people who are simply uncomfortable with people. Or how those levels of morality are distinctly culturally based. Or something.
phantomdragoness wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
nekhbet wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
nekhbet wrote...
Oh, I'm thinking in psychological terms and not just the relationship kind of codependency.
Checklist for Anders!
http://www.coda.org/...atterns-new.htm
Okay, that's not fair.
I don't consider masking pain with humor a bad thing. I mean, how else are you going to live? Sit down and have little "I feel like this" pow wows whenever your feelings get hurt? *grumbles*
All personality disorder and psychology stuff should be read with the conditional "does the trait make one's life more miserable or not", and they're only disorder if the answer is yes.
I'm one of the people who use heavy humour as coping mechanism, too, but I don't feel it in any way hurts me and neither do the people around me, so it's not a problem. But for some, it may be.
I love these checklists for creating characters, btw.
... oh, okay.
Well, then. *awkward cough*
This is sorta like when I got that super higher Autism Quotient on that little test Wired had. Still think it's unfairly weighted for scientists/engineers/people who are simply uncomfortable with people. Or how those levels of morality are distinctly culturally based. Or something.
Pfft. I took one of those tests and got a Forrest Gump moment with a chart.
Dude: You're here *points* everyone else is here. *points* Have you told a doctor?
Me: Yes...I have ADD, but nothing else.
Dude: Oh! That explains it!
Me: ...I will set you on fire with my mind.
nekhbet wrote...
Oh, I'm thinking in psychological terms and not just the relationship kind of codependency.
Checklist for Anders!
http://www.coda.org/...atterns-new.htm
. Tragiboner, indeed.
leggywillow wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
IDK. He made me a little wary from the start. So whenever someone goes "BUT ANDERS USED TO BE FUNNY WHERE'S FUNNY ANDERS" I think "maybe you weren't paying attention..."
THIS. I hate how people go on about how he's an entirely different character in DA2 from Awakening. He's really not. He hid behind humor in Awakening, but it was glaringly obvious that he had some issues.
Kawamura wrote...
nekhbet wrote...
Oh, I'm thinking in psychological terms and not just the relationship kind of codependency.
Checklist for Anders!
http://www.coda.org/...atterns-new.htm
Okay, that's not fair.
I don't consider masking pain with humor a bad thing. I mean, how else are you going to live? Sit down and have little "I feel like this" pow wows whenever your feelings get hurt? *grumbles*
THERE IS NO ANGST.cleosilver wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
nekhbet wrote...
Oh, I'm thinking in psychological terms and not just the relationship kind of codependency.
Checklist for Anders!
http://www.coda.org/...atterns-new.htm
Okay, that's not fair.
I don't consider masking pain with humor a bad thing. I mean, how else are you going to live? Sit down and have little "I feel like this" pow wows whenever your feelings get hurt? *grumbles*
Isn't that what we all do in this thread? We laugh and joke about Anders because otherwise the angst would all be far too much
Purposeof-Flight wrote...
phantomdragoness wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
nekhbet wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
nekhbet wrote...
Oh, I'm thinking in psychological terms and not just the relationship kind of codependency.
Checklist for Anders!
http://www.coda.org/...atterns-new.htm
Okay, that's not fair.
I don't consider masking pain with humor a bad thing. I mean, how else are you going to live? Sit down and have little "I feel like this" pow wows whenever your feelings get hurt? *grumbles*
All personality disorder and psychology stuff should be read with the conditional "does the trait make one's life more miserable or not", and they're only disorder if the answer is yes.
I'm one of the people who use heavy humour as coping mechanism, too, but I don't feel it in any way hurts me and neither do the people around me, so it's not a problem. But for some, it may be.
I love these checklists for creating characters, btw.
... oh, okay.
Well, then. *awkward cough*
This is sorta like when I got that super higher Autism Quotient on that little test Wired had. Still think it's unfairly weighted for scientists/engineers/people who are simply uncomfortable with people. Or how those levels of morality are distinctly culturally based. Or something.
Pfft. I took one of those tests and got a Forrest Gump moment with a chart.
Dude: You're here *points* everyone else is here. *points* Have you told a doctor?
Me: Yes...I have ADD, but nothing else.
Dude: Oh! That explains it!
Me: ...I will set you on fire with my mind.
LMFAO
I got put on Ritalin in 3rd grade because I supposedly had some kind of mental disorder because I couldn't concentrate properly.
It was most likely due to the fact I hate hated school, for one, And for two, just found my books to be more interesting than Mrs. Height's prattle. Oh yeah....AND I WAS EIGHT.
I also found it interesting to insist that Rebecca Potter in my class was related to Harry Potter...she was not amused.
Modifié par MelfinaofOutlawStar, 10 avril 2011 - 05:47 .
shiba5 wrote...
leggywillow wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
IDK. He made me a little wary from the start. So whenever someone goes "BUT ANDERS USED TO BE FUNNY WHERE'S FUNNY ANDERS" I think "maybe you weren't paying attention..."
THIS. I hate how people go on about how he's an entirely different character in DA2 from Awakening. He's really not. He hid behind humor in Awakening, but it was glaringly obvious that he had some issues.
Apparently, us Anders fans don't really know Anders or something... I don't get it.
"He wuz funny. They took his cat and now hez terroist!!!!11111"
Man, that's deep... or derp.
*pulls Anders woobie face* I'll relurk again soon 
Modifié par purplecookie, 10 avril 2011 - 05:48 .
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