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[Dasha Dreyson]

DeaHamlet wrote...

One of my coworkers upon hearing that my first playthrough was mage exclaimed "But you should NEVER play mage the first time through!!!"  He was refering to usual D&D mages which are hard to play, but I think he was right in a different way.
Rogue and warrior feel ... very unsatisfying after being a mage.
But must get through it... must romance that Merrill.

DnD mages are very dependant on the GM, IMO. If your GM is scared of them, all the monsters you fight have resistances and high saves. Then you may have a warrior that is all "craft me things or I'll bash your brains." So yeah, I knit or do something else when playing a DnD mage.

[DeaHamlet]

silver-crescent wrote...

Amondra wrote...

Sadly I find myself always going for Merrill or Anders...I have a thing for broken mages I think...

I never really do the same romance more than once. Why repeat when you can try something new?

I can only speak for myself... the Hawke doesn't have to be the same.  That makes things different enough right there.

[Ashwraith]

DeaHamlet wrote...

I found my 2H Hawke and Fenris if properly spec-ed can keep douchebags busy enough.  Just needs healing once in a while from Anders or mage Hawke.

Eeeeeeeehxcellent. I'll go with that, then.
Implacable Man, here I come.

Modifié par Ashwraith, 10 avril 2011 - 10:44 .

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

DeaHamlet wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

I love taking Seb with me to the fade mission. "WA?? You're going into the fade??" And he gives you +20 rivalry for just DOING it. SCAREDY CAT.

Does he come with? I had heard that he doesn't come with you.But the guide said he doesn't betray you.  So I was super confused and never took Seb.
After the first time, I also never took Fenris and Aveline... they seem the most negatively affected o.O

Yeah, Fenris tends to KO my party in one sweep with his Cloud sword.

[Amondra]

DeaHamlet wrote...

Ashwraith wrote...

Soooooo guys I'm rebuilding my Anders-mance Hawke pretty much from the ground up and I need some advice.
Namely, I'm rolling a warrior- should I go with two-handed, or shield and sword?

It's perhaps worth mentioning that Warrior!Hawke's pretty much "samurai with a Ferelden paint job" at this point. I'm emphasizing the Meat Shield aspect more than Unstoppable Death Machine, since she's assigned herself as Anders' protector. (Hell, with Bethany gone, someone has to fill the void.)

I have never seen the need for a shield & sword warrior in DA:O or DA2.  But then again, I don't play nightmare.
I found my 2H Hawke and Fenris if properly spec-ed can keep douchebags busy enough.  Just needs healing once in a while from Anders or mage Hawke.

In DAO I just liked how sword and borad worked.  In DA 2 I was all over two handed fighting, so much better then in DAO.

[DeaHamlet]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

I love taking Seb with me to the fade mission. "WA?? You're going into the fade??" And he gives you +20 rivalry for just DOING it. SCAREDY CAT.

Does he come with? I had heard that he doesn't come with you.But the guide said he doesn't betray you.  So I was super confused and never took Seb.
After the first time, I also never took Fenris and Aveline... they seem the most negatively affected o.O

Yeah, Fenris tends to KO my party in one sweep with his Cloud sword.

LOL Anders + mage Hawke totally froze everyone and destroyed everything.  I'm not terrified of him beating me, I just thought he was the most unhappy about the whole thing [mind you, he was on the rivalry path].  And Aveline, no matter what, seems to hate mages more afterwards.  Since I often play mages or mage sympathizers, I don't need that mess.

Love that Anders never gets tempted *swoon*.

[LastFadingSmile]

Ashwraith wrote...

Soooooo guys I'm rebuilding my Anders-mance Hawke pretty much from the ground up and I need some advice.
Namely, I'm rolling a warrior- should I go with two-handed, or shield and sword?

It's perhaps worth mentioning I'm emphasizing the Meat Shield aspect more than Unstoppable Death Machine- with Bethany gone, someone has to fill the void, so she's assigned herself Anders' protector.

I found two handed satisfied the fun quotient a lot more than the sword&board did, even though I really dig the romantic connotations of being a shield bearing "champion" type.  A lot of the time I felt like the S&B was an exercise in frustration because the threat mechanics are on such short ranges, everythign costs so much stamina, and one of the main tanking sustained abilities disabled your ability to close on targets. Two-handed with Scythe and Taunt almost felt more defensive in the rush-to-someone's-side kind of way, if not in the "I'm made of pure metal, try it!" sense.

[Ashwraith]

Amondra wrote...

Sadly I find myself always going for Merrill or Anders...I have a thing for broken mages I think...

...Now I have this mental image of someone dragging Anders and/or Merril up to a Customer Service counter.
"Sir, I would like a refund. This mage is broken."

[Dasha Dreyson]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

I love taking Seb with me to the fade mission. "WA?? You're going into the fade??" And he gives you +20 rivalry for just DOING it. SCAREDY CAT.

Does he come with? I had heard that he doesn't come with you.But the guide said he doesn't betray you.  So I was super confused and never took Seb.
After the first time, I also never took Fenris and Aveline... they seem the most negatively affected o.O

Yeah, Fenris tends to KO my party in one sweep with his Cloud sword.

Last time I took Fenris, Varric survived and handled it. He was all "don't worry Hawke, I've got your back." It was actually quite fun. I haven't tried taking Seb yet.

[DeaHamlet]

Amondra wrote...

In DAO I just liked how sword and borad worked.  In DA 2 I was all over two handed fighting, so much better then in DAO.

I only played mage or rogue in DA:O.  I never felt the need to take much control of Alistair/Oghren/Sten in fights.  They just did their stuff.  So I never felt tempted to try a warrior character.  Playing one in this for the romantic factor of being all protective to my sweet mage girlfriend (Merrill).

[Miri1984]

Back a bit, but Seb refuses to go with you into the fade and says something along the lines of "it's no place for a man of the faith." SO not only does he refuse to help you, he also implies that the Maker hates you. And he also says something along the lines of "The Golden City was corrupted through this sort of thing"

Yeah, thanks Seb.

[legbamel]

Kolotosa wrote...

Ashwraith wrote...
Soooooo guys I'm rebuilding my Anders-mance Hawke pretty much from the ground up and I need some advice.
Namely, I'm rolling a warrior- should I go with two-handed, or shield and sword?

It's perhaps worth mentioning I'm emphasizing the Meat Shield aspect more than Unstoppable Death Machine- with Bethany gone, someone has to fill the void, so she's assigned herself Anders' protector.

I found two handed satisfied the fun quotient a lot more than the sword&board did, even though I really dig the romantic connotations of being a shield bearing "champion" type.  A lot of the time I felt like the S&B was an exercise in frustration because the threat mechanics are on such short ranges, everythign costs so much stamina, and one of the main tanking sustained abilities disabled your ability to close on targets. Two-handed with Scythe and Taunt almost felt more defensive in the rush-to-someone's-side kind of way, if not in the "I'm made of pure metal, try it!" sense.

I found the same thing: I loved being an archer, a dual-wield rogue, and a mage but sword-and-board was frustrating, particularly when Fenris would leap in and wipe out the three guys I'd been whittling away in one swipe.  I'm going for a two-handed warrior next and Fen and I will leap in and slaughter everyone wholesale.  And then I can rival-mance Anders for once.

[Dasha Dreyson]

DeaHamlet wrote...

Love that Anders never gets tempted *swoon*.

Sorry, this stall is already occupied.

[leggywillow]

DeaHamlet wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

I love taking Seb with me to the fade mission. "WA?? You're going into the fade??" And he gives you +20 rivalry for just DOING it. SCAREDY CAT.

Does he come with? I had heard that he doesn't come with you.But the guide said he doesn't betray you.  So I was super confused and never took Seb.
After the first time, I also never took Fenris and Aveline... they seem the most negatively affected o.O

No, he won't come with you and that ticked me off big time.  He just says "The Fade is no place for a man of faith" in that infuriating serene voice of his.  You know, Seb?  Hawke could be too!  But she still sucks it up.  If every companion just buggered off when they didn't approve of the quest, well, the PC would be alone quite often, lol.

[DeaHamlet]

Miri1984 wrote...

Back a bit, but Seb refuses to go with you into the fade and says something along the lines of "it's no place for a man of the faith." SO not only does he refuse to help you, he also implies that the Maker hates you. And he also says something along the lines of "The Golden City was corrupted through this sort of thing"

Yeah, thanks Seb.

Ick.  I think he maxxed out hate-points with me though.  This attitude does not surprise me.

[silver-crescent]

Miri1984 wrote...

Back a bit, but Seb refuses to go with you into the fade and says something along the lines of "it's no place for a man of the faith." SO not only does he refuse to help you, he also implies that the Maker hates you. And he also says something along the lines of "The Golden City was corrupted through this sort of thing"

Yeah, thanks Seb.

I think that was just an excuse for BW not having to do a scene with Seb betraying you + an extra scene at the end, like with the other characters. 

[Dasha Dreyson]

leggywillow wrote...

No, he won't come with you and that ticked me off big time.  He just says "The Fade is no place for a man of faith" in that infuriating serene voice of his.  You know, Seb?  Hawke could be too!  But she still sucks it up.  If every companion just buggered off when they didn't approve of the quest, well, the PC would be alone quite often, lol.

I love how that implies that he thinks mages (since they do spend time in the fade) cannot have faith; that somehow they are genetically difficient in that area.

[DeaHamlet]

Seb shall be stuck in rivalry FOREVER.
Boy, I really don't like him. But I love the act 2 and 3 quests that are part of the whole thing so I'm stuck with him.
SIGH. Bioware, we have a love/hate relationship right now.

[legbamel]

DeaHamlet wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...
Back a bit, but Seb refuses to go with you into the fade and says something along the lines of "it's no place for a man of the faith." SO not only does he refuse to help you, he also implies that the Maker hates you. And he also says something along the lines of "The Golden City was corrupted through this sort of thing"

Yeah, thanks Seb.

Ick.  I think he maxxed out hate-points with me though.  This attitude does not surprise me.

I really wanted the option to turn to him and say, "You go there every night when you dream, ******."  I loved teasing him in his friendmance but he was so frustrating in a lot of ways.

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

leggywillow wrote...

DeaHamlet wrote...

Miri1984 wrote...

I love taking Seb with me to the fade mission. "WA?? You're going into the fade??" And he gives you +20 rivalry for just DOING it. SCAREDY CAT.

Does he come with? I had heard that he doesn't come with you.But the guide said he doesn't betray you.  So I was super confused and never took Seb.
After the first time, I also never took Fenris and Aveline... they seem the most negatively affected o.O

No, he won't come with you and that ticked me off big time.  He just says "The Fade is no place for a man of faith" in that infuriating serene voice of his.  You know, Seb?  Hawke could be too!  But she still sucks it up.  If every companion just buggered off when they didn't approve of the quest, well, the PC would be alone quite often, lol.

Where is the option:

"Knee them in the crotch and drag them by their hair"?

[DeaHamlet]

Dasha Dreyson wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

No, he won't come with you and that ticked me off big time.  He just says "The Fade is no place for a man of faith" in that infuriating serene voice of his.  You know, Seb?  Hawke could be too!  But she still sucks it up.  If every companion just buggered off when they didn't approve of the quest, well, the PC would be alone quite often, lol.

I love how that implies that he thinks mages (since they do spend time in the fade) cannot have faith; that somehow they are genetically difficient in that area.

I didn't even think of that... interesting.  Not surprising, but interesting. And ICK, again.  

[Dasha Dreyson]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Where is the option:

"Knee them in the crotch and drag them by their hair"?

That would hurt if Hawke's knee accidentally hit that belt buckle.

[DeaHamlet]

legbamel wrote...
I really wanted the option to turn to him and say, "You go there every night when you dream, ******."  I loved teasing him in his friendmance but he was so frustrating in a lot of ways.

Hahahahahahahahahaha.  Awesome! So awesome!

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Dasha Dreyson wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

No, he won't come with you and that ticked me off big time.  He just says "The Fade is no place for a man of faith" in that infuriating serene voice of his.  You know, Seb?  Hawke could be too!  But she still sucks it up.  If every companion just buggered off when they didn't approve of the quest, well, the PC would be alone quite often, lol.

I love how that implies that he thinks mages (since they do spend time in the fade) cannot have faith; that somehow they are genetically difficient in that area.

No wonder Sebastian and Anders get along so well!!

[Miri1984]

Yeah, Seb and Elthina's attitude to mages are what make me really, REALLY happy about Anders blowing up the Chantry. Elthina's little BS speech about the Maker working in mysterious ways really made me want to deck her. "Even a MAGE may be doing the maker's work!"

FFFUUU