The Anders Thread: Flash Fic Contest! Details on Pg. 2274
#20376
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:43
****.
Awkward come on line failed.
.... heh. "come on".
#20377
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:44
Modifié par Batteries, 11 avril 2011 - 01:45 .
#20378
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:44
#20379
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:45
AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
RinjiRenee wrote...
dreadpiratesnugglecakes wrote...
-ranty snip-thebrute7 wrote...
I have finally come to the conclusion that Ander's destruction of the Chantry was not in fact terrorism... I'll have to write out my rationale for you guys later so you can understand my thoughts on it.
Plus I hate Elthina...
*facepalm* Oh boy.
Your argument is as extreme as the "Elthina had it coming" argument, just on the other side of the spectrum.
Go ahead and villainize the mages as you see fit. However, you must accept that Thedas is a horrible place full of horrible people, and surprise, many of them are not mages. There are perfectly nice mages who deserve a lot more respect than what has been given to them, but the world sucks.
You also have to accept that people have the freedom to choose what they believe in a place of grey morality, just as I completely support your ability to make arguments of absolution. So laugh on, I guess.
tl;dr -- U MAD?
See I kinda think Elthina did have it coming as she is warned so many times that people are trying to kill her, but she seems to think she's untouchable because of her position.
Does that mean that she deserves what happens to her in the end? Probably not.
Nobody deserved what happens/ed.
Elthina didn't deserve to die.
Nobody did.
Meredith didn't deserve to see her life and family murdered by the abomination that was once her sister.
Anders didn't deserve to be dragged away from his mother with the realisation that his father, and many others hated him.
None of the mages deserve to be punished for the crimes of the Tevinter Imperium.
The elves don't deserve to be enslaved and mistreated because they refused to relinquish their culture, and then either have to fight for it or have it stripped from them. (The templars actually hunt the Dalish, too.)
Casteless dwarves don't deserve to be downtrodden and abused just for how they were born.
There's a lot of injustice in Thedas, so just sit tight and see what happens.
#20380
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:48
.___. Thinking like that makes the world kinder.
#20381
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:49
Hmm, I thought it was implied that the Divine is sending her information about plots. Or is that just with the DLC as well?Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
If I'm not mistaken, she was only warned twice - or if you don't have the Seb DLC, just once, by Hawke.AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
RinjiRenee wrote...
dreadpiratesnugglecakes wrote...
-ranty snip-thebrute7 wrote...
I have finally come to the conclusion that Ander's destruction of the Chantry was not in fact terrorism... I'll have to write out my rationale for you guys later so you can understand my thoughts on it.
Plus I hate Elthina...
*facepalm* Oh boy.
Your argument is as extreme as the "Elthina had it coming" argument, just on the other side of the spectrum.
Go ahead and villainize the mages as you see fit. However, you must accept that Thedas is a horrible place full of horrible people, and surprise, many of them are not mages. There are perfectly nice mages who deserve a lot more respect than what has been given to them, but the world sucks.
You also have to accept that people have the freedom to choose what they believe in a place of grey morality, just as I completely support your ability to make arguments of absolution. So laugh on, I guess.
tl;dr -- U MAD?
See I kinda think Elthina did have it coming as she is warned so many times that people are trying to kill her, but she seems to think she's untouchable because of her position.
Does that mean that she deserves what happens to her in the end? Probably not.
But in all honesty it really doesn't matter. People in prominant positions will always be threatened by someone or something - it doesn't mean they just up and go into hiding and it doesn't mean they stop doing their job. Sure you COULD literally just run away, but what kind of message does that send to your people? It means the other side got to you and is winning, or that whatever they left behind wasn't worth protecting.
I'm not saying she should run for the hills. Just that, at least it appears this way, she doesn't seem to do anything at all with the information she is given. She (wrongly) assumes that no-one would touch her because of her position, that they all have the same level of respect for the Chantry as she has. In my opinion that's misguided at best, and downright arrogant at worst.
@Rinji: Yeah, I'm not disposed to like the Chantry anyway. I felt like hurling things too.
#20382
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:49
Kawamura wrote...
Yes. Very few people deserve what comes to them, be it good or bad.
.___. Thinking like that makes the world kinder.
Yup.
Oh man... I need sleep... but if I leave the thread, much awesomeness will pass me by...
Why is this thread so frigging awesome!?
Damn you!
#20383
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:50
*opens mouth*
*closes mouth*
....
*slowly backs out of the thread*
#20384
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:51
Ashwraith wrote...
*reads back over the past two pages*
*opens mouth*
*closes mouth*
....
*slowly backs out of the thread*
Wise decision.
#20385
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:51
Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
Yes. Very few people deserve what comes to them, be it good or bad.
.___. Thinking like that makes the world kinder.
Yup.
Oh man... I need sleep... but if I leave the thread, much awesomeness will pass me by...
Why is this thread so frigging awesome!?
Damn you!
P much.
You'll have, like, some weird espirit de l'escalier feeling.
#20386
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:51
Kawamura wrote...
I wouldn't be passively resisting your ...
****.
Awkward come on line failed.
.... heh. "come on".
I love you! Lets have awkwardly pervy babies and take them on left-leaning protest marches!
#20387
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:53
AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
I wouldn't be passively resisting your ...
****.
Awkward come on line failed.
.... heh. "come on".
I love you! Lets have awkwardly pervy babies and take them on left-leaning protest marches!
D:
I don't like kids. I'm most likely a genetic dead end. W-we could adopt a cat, I guess?
#20388
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:55
Kawamura wrote...
AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
Purposeof-Flight wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
D:
W-why did we get yelled at? I didn't even do anything bad today.
Yes you did.
And I don't know. LMFAO only reason I read it is because it was mentioned in livestream.
Please say Meredanders will come to the rescue!
Some people just have really loud voices. IDK.
Edited to add:
@Kawamura: You own the Motorcycle Diaries? I love you more!
I don't own a Che shirt. Mainly because he would have hated it.
Oh, I'd buy a che t-shirt because of it. I'm not a big fan of Che. >.> I find him interesting and all, but whenever a person that wants to be a doctor drops doctoring and goes and kill people I get UPSET. THERE CAN BE NO COMPR--
Oh. Damn.
Ah, see I'm a raging leftie/hippie. I don't like the system or the man. That said, I can separate real life from video games, and am not going to blow up any churches any time soon. Seems that some people can't though, and this is what makes me really sad.
Oh, I'm a big leftie, too. But I'm a fan of civil disobedience. At the end of the day, I believe resorting to violence means you've lost in some way.
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"
Salvor Hardin, Mayor of Terminus from the Foundation series by Isaac Azimov
#20389
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:57
Batteries wrote...
you can warn the woman three times but she does not leave. I don't like that she died and would of stopped it if I could but she had plenty of heads up from Hawke and Seb, Hawke again and then finally by the city's knight captain to leave. She chose not to. I won't say she had it coming but she knew it was coming.
honestly i still can't see that, even with the three warnings we see as players. she's probably had attempts on her life before but i still dont think that's good enough reason to just up and leave. i actually applaud her decision to stick by people who needed her even in the face of danger. just look at kirkwall - its full of dispicable people and i think she actually has dialouge about how it wouldn't be the first time someone has threatened her. what's one more threat? even if it happened to be the one that was made good it doesn't matter. her death isn't going to stop the chantry from exsisting - it going to end up serving as a symbol about the chantry who back down in the face of danger at the hands of an evil mage (which, btw is not what she wanted in the first place).
#20390
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:58
Kawamura wrote...
AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
I wouldn't be passively resisting your ...
****.
Awkward come on line failed.
.... heh. "come on".
I love you! Lets have awkwardly pervy babies and take them on left-leaning protest marches!
D:
I don't like kids. I'm most likely a genetic dead end. W-we could adopt a cat, I guess?
No, I'm going to ninjamance you like that comic I can't find a link to right now!
Only if we can name the cat Ser Pounce-A-Lot.
#20391
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:58
#20392
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 02:02
dreadpiratesnugglecakes wrote...
holyfreakingwallofranttext
#20393
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 02:03
I think that's only in the DLC since you need Seb to find Sister Nightengale for that. Eitherway I don't think there is much she could do with that information other than hand it over to Meredith and have her hunt down even more mages - in which case maybe it was better that she didn't? It never came across to me that she had an attitude when speaking about her position and how awesome she thought it was - it was more like an "look, I've been there, done that, and quite frankly don't give a rat's ass because I'm not going anywhere and I'll take care of this my way" kind of deal.AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
Hmm, I thought it was implied that the Divine is sending her information about plots. Or is that just with the DLC as well?Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
If I'm not mistaken, she was only warned twice - or if you don't have the Seb DLC, just once, by Hawke.AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
RinjiRenee wrote...
dreadpiratesnugglecakes wrote...
-ranty snip-thebrute7 wrote...
I have finally come to the conclusion that Ander's destruction of the Chantry was not in fact terrorism... I'll have to write out my rationale for you guys later so you can understand my thoughts on it.
Plus I hate Elthina...
*facepalm* Oh boy.
Your argument is as extreme as the "Elthina had it coming" argument, just on the other side of the spectrum.
Go ahead and villainize the mages as you see fit. However, you must accept that Thedas is a horrible place full of horrible people, and surprise, many of them are not mages. There are perfectly nice mages who deserve a lot more respect than what has been given to them, but the world sucks.
You also have to accept that people have the freedom to choose what they believe in a place of grey morality, just as I completely support your ability to make arguments of absolution. So laugh on, I guess.
tl;dr -- U MAD?
See I kinda think Elthina did have it coming as she is warned so many times that people are trying to kill her, but she seems to think she's untouchable because of her position.
Does that mean that she deserves what happens to her in the end? Probably not.
But in all honesty it really doesn't matter. People in prominant positions will always be threatened by someone or something - it doesn't mean they just up and go into hiding and it doesn't mean they stop doing their job. Sure you COULD literally just run away, but what kind of message does that send to your people? It means the other side got to you and is winning, or that whatever they left behind wasn't worth protecting.
I'm not saying she should run for the hills. Just that, at least it appears this way, she doesn't seem to do anything at all with the information she is given. She (wrongly) assumes that no-one would touch her because of her position, that they all have the same level of respect for the Chantry as she has. In my opinion that's misguided at best, and downright arrogant at worst.
@Rinji: Yeah, I'm not disposed to like the Chantry anyway. I felt like hurling things too.
#20394
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 02:03
AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
I wouldn't be passively resisting your ...
****.
Awkward come on line failed.
.... heh. "come on".
I love you! Lets have awkwardly pervy babies and take them on left-leaning protest marches!
D:
I don't like kids. I'm most likely a genetic dead end. W-we could adopt a cat, I guess?
No, I'm going to ninjamance you like that comic I can't find a link to right now!
Only if we can name the cat Ser Pounce-A-Lot.
D:
B-but! I like names like... fandom based ones. Or food based ones. Horatio would be nice. Or Spaghetti.
#20395
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 02:04

Best one I got of him. "Anders is not amused..."
#20396
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 02:04
The old Anders thread over in the DAO/DAA forums had a cool prompt this week (feature Anders happy somehow... not as easy after DA2). I figured many of you peeps might enjoy it, so I'll drop a link here...
Not Too Heavy
#20397
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 02:05
Kolotosa wrote...
dreadpiratesnugglecakes wrote...
holyfreakingwallofranttext
Is that at the **** house and Anders get that "You better not be looking at my Hawke!"
#20398
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 02:07
Thief-of-Hearts wrote...
Batteries wrote...
you can warn the woman three times but she does not leave. I don't like that she died and would of stopped it if I could but she had plenty of heads up from Hawke and Seb, Hawke again and then finally by the city's knight captain to leave. She chose not to. I won't say she had it coming but she knew it was coming.
honestly i still can't see that, even with the three warnings we see as players. she's probably had attempts on her life before but i still dont think that's good enough reason to just up and leave. i actually applaud her decision to stick by people who needed her even in the face of danger. just look at kirkwall - its full of dispicable people and i think she actually has dialouge about how it wouldn't be the first time someone has threatened her. what's one more threat? even if it happened to be the one that was made good it doesn't matter. her death isn't going to stop the chantry from exsisting - it going to end up serving as a symbol about the chantry who back down in the face of danger at the hands of an evil mage (which, btw is not what she wanted in the first place).
I suppose it's because I don't really have a strong religion or a strong religious leader, but I always wondered what she stayed for that was so important.
But, as I said, I don't have a strong religion/leader. I'm not part of a flock, so I don't fully understand the benefit of having the shepherd around. I saw it more as a ... I don't want to say desire to be martyred, but maybe something almost like that.
I dunno.
#20399
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 02:07
Kolotosa wrote...
dreadpiratesnugglecakes wrote...
holyfreakingwallofranttext
this picture needs sunglasses and a snarky comment in bolded white letters
#20400
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 02:10
Our rivalmance will be epic!Kawamura wrote...
AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...
Kawamura wrote...
I wouldn't be passively resisting your ...
****.
Awkward come on line failed.
.... heh. "come on".
I love you! Lets have awkwardly pervy babies and take them on left-leaning protest marches!
D:
I don't like kids. I'm most likely a genetic dead end. W-we could adopt a cat, I guess?
No, I'm going to ninjamance you like that comic I can't find a link to right now!
Only if we can name the cat Ser Pounce-A-Lot.
D:
B-but! I like names like... fandom based ones. Or food based ones. Horatio would be nice. Or Spaghetti.
Horatio of Hornblower fame? I could allow this.
Also, my cat is called Daisy, and I only realised the other day that this is also Merrill's nickname. I have a fandom cat, yay!





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