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He gets so much hate everywhere else, I think people are a bit more defensive in here.
I've noticed 
The main thing for me is that people come into this thread and seem to assume that we all love and adore Anders while being completely blind to his faults and flaws. I don't mind a debate, but one without the patronising, condescending tone would be nice.
I don't think anyone here would argue that he's a total innocent who never meant to harm anyone. We could argue that and look like fools, or we can accept his actions and analyse what prompted them, gaining more perspective on events and adding depth to an already interesting character.
I know I like Anders partly because he's a big ball of crazy who manages to screw up. For one thing, he makes my Hawke look like a perfectly reasonable, responsible citizen in comparison.
Okay, going back a page, but I wanted to comment (it takes me sooo long to catch up on everything I miss over night). I think this is what bugged me about the ranty post. I agreed to varying degrees with some of the points the poster brought up but then it all came off as extremely patronising.
Honestly, the thing I love about this thread is that people freely express so many different opinions about Anders and his actions. There are bunches of people who support the Chantry bombing, bunches that were against it, and all the shades between that. People who knifed Anders and people who spared him (and different reasons for both of those). I could go on and on. I love seeing the debates over these things and more. I just don't like it when people pop into the thread, paint us all with the same brush, and then pop out.
Wanted to comment on this too. I don't venture into too many of the other threads anymore regarding Anders simply because of the level of hate, "Anders smells of poo" "Anders needs to die" "I shanked a mage and I liked it", and this isn't because I'm so pro-Anders that I can't read negative comments about the character. I feel this thread is a great place where not so... vitriolic discussion can take place. It's not just for declaring love for the character but for discussing the negatives too in a calm, insightful (and hilarious a la knicker-stealing and shrine-building) manner. I think having someone post comments here that are quite heated breaks from that - it's obviously totally fine to hate a character, and to be fair that's understandable in Anders's case as he is a controversial one, but to post here in such a way is going to provoke a reaction and seemed to me to be one of the main intents of the post.
Ok sorry to anyone who's fed up with this topic, just felt the need to post something on it.
Ergh after a 12 hour sleep in my chambers and this is still going on?
Either way all this.
If the guy/girl actually came in here to actually have a conversation and debate then they did it all the wrong way. I really think someone who comes in with that attitude has all the trolly comments they got coming to them.
But I don't recall ever seeing someone here that has actually tried to make Anders seem pure as snow.
He's a liar, he's a hyprocrite, he's blind, he's a murderer, he's an idiot for merging with Justice and he's a monster.
But he's also compassionate, has a noble and understandable goal, he merged with Justice because he wanted to help a friend. He's selfish but he's also selfless.
He does have a free clinic running in craptown and he does come back to help you if you let him go in Awakening knowing that he could be caught and dragged back by templars just to help people.
Which of course,
could happen.
Mage is a rainbow.
Modifié par Batteries, 11 avril 2011 - 03:54 .
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