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[Kawamura]

shiba5 wrote...

cleosilver wrote...

I wonder if there's any correclation between people thinking Anders should be killed and people who live in a country which still has the Death Penalty.

I live in the U.S., but I live in one of the bluest of the blue states. I never stabbity-stab him.

High fives for blue-blue-blue!

(Actually, my state is pretty red. It's only the population centres that are blue, as it tends to be.)

[signcherie]

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Reason No.# 906849384504830001 to replay DA2 and romance Anders.

Seriously, my only real complaint about the whole game was the fact that I couldn't play elf or dwarf (or qunari! That'd be interesting...)

I would love to see Anders get some elf loving...

[LastFadingSmile]

I remember last week sometime, a call to arms was issued for more "revolutionary" songs for the Anders playlist -- or at the very least, less angsty, broody, omfgmyheartwhyyyyyyy songs. To that end, I wanted to suggest:

This Is Why We Fight - The Decemberists


And also give you this d'awwww :3


by Fon-Rosenbutt

[upsettingshorts]

cleosilver wrote...

I wonder if there's any correclation between people thinking Anders should be killed and people who live in a country which still has the Death Penalty.

My character lives in a country which still has the death penalty.

Just sayin'. 

[thebrute7]

Ninche wrote...

Wow it seems I missed something big last night. I just read about 20 pages back but I'm still not sure what the hell happened. Were people arguing about the whole "this is why what anders did was not terrorism" thing? Are you guys fed up or can someone summarise things for me very quickly, I hate feeling like I've missed out =(

I made a post saying I would post my rationale for my belief that Anders blowing up the chantry was not in fact terrorism and some guy made a rant about how I was "rationalizing away murder" or some such.  You can find my rationale here. http://social.biowar...250/818#7028833

There you are.  Oh, and before we get too deep we need more "Everybody's kissing Everybodyness going on".  *Hugs for the Anders thread*

[Threeparts]

DeaHamlet wrote...

I got my co-workers to say "sexy times" today. I feel my life is complete. LOL

In other news, WHAT?! Anders is totally a dirty blonde!

So, so dirty.

[upsettingshorts]

thebrute7 wrote...

I made a post saying I would post my rationale for my belief that Anders blowing up the chantry was not in fact terrorism

*twitches violently*

That being said, I have few issues with your argument beyond "I disagree" over the nature of what is and is not a military target in a time of war undertaken by a sovereign authority.  But that's more of an argument for a different time - perhaps even a different forum.  I usually only interject my whole terrorism thing into discussions that seem to be missing the point of what the term implies and you have not.  

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 11 avril 2011 - 04:57 .

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

aquaticidioticus wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

Oh my god....

Varricanders

Oh lawdy... there's a lot of... boob action going there.  

...uhm... WOW. 

[DeaHamlet]

FYI Dress-up Anders is SO AWESOME.
Speedos all the way.

[Threeparts]

Kolotosa wrote...

I remember last week sometime, a call to arms was issued for more "revolutionary" songs for the Anders playlist -- or at the very least, less angsty, broody, omfgmyheartwhyyyyyyy songs. To that end, I wanted to suggest:

This Is Why We Fight - The Decemberists


And also give you this d'awwww :3

<snip>

by Fon-Rosenbutt

Added your suggestion and, oh, Maker, the kitty. Pictures of Anders with cats these days just make me want to walk up to him sitting on the Naughty Crate and give him an enormous hug. He's fallen so far. 

[Purposeof-Flight]

Well, you guys.
Thank you....for the 25 pages I now have to read. >.>
Anyone want to draw up a summary of the **** you've been talking about all night?

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

signcherie wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Reason No.# 906849384504830001 to replay DA2 and romance Anders.

Seriously, my only real complaint about the whole game was the fact that I couldn't play elf or dwarf (or qunari! That'd be interesting...)

I would love to see Anders get some elf loving...

Why do I suddenly have mental images of Fenris and Merril... no. Let's not go there. XD

But yes, elf loving is mandatory for a fantasy game, damnit! (Even dark, miserable low-fantasy where morality is a blurry mass of grey and sexy mages blow up Chantries!)

[YamiSnuffles]

Oh, oh! *flails violently*

Since someone brought up the Anders playlist again, I know Mumford and Sons "Little Lion Man" is already on there, but seriously, their song "The Cave" is so perfect.

1) It mentions the Maker.
2) These lyrics:
"Because I need freedom now
And I need to know how
To live my life as it's meant to be"

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

thebrute7 wrote...

I made a post saying I would post my rationale for my belief that Anders blowing up the chantry was not in fact terrorism

*twitches violently*

*pokes* Post away, Shorts.

Also, I agree re: death penalty. Medieval society etc. And I think the best thing for the peace of mind of the majority is to shank Anders. I doubt anyone on the street cares about how much he suffers or could suffer emotionally to live in the s***storm he starts.

I like the poetic justice angle for the sake of a story and holding on to precious plot threads but if it was real life I'd kill him.

[Tasmen]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

Well, you guys.
Thank you....for the 25 pages I now have to read. >.>
Anyone want to draw up a summary of the **** you've been talking about all night?

I would love a summary as well... Should be working and this will help me do a little of that.

[aquaticidioticus]

nekhbet wrote...

What I'd be interested in knowing is whether people who killed Anders also killed Connor. Is a well-meaning Anders more culpable for inviting a spirit of the Fade to possess him because he's an adult? Compared to an ignorant child who invites a demon into him and lets loose.

That's kind of how I look at it.  Connor was a different situation for me because... well, he was a child and didn't know much about magic.  Yes, he was partially trained by Jowan, but I don't believe he fully knew the consequences of his actions.  Anders, on the other hand, very much knows what may (and does) happen if he invites this spirit in (although we all know his intentions were good and may have been unaware of the corruption that a spirit might undertake during his/her stay within a living host).  

Of course they're quite different situations, and not entirely comparable. But the interesting question is when does a possessed mage become culpable for the bad stuff that happens due to the possession? Is putting the possessed mage out more of a punishment to the mage or a quick-fix solution to limit the possible damage?

Those are interesting questions to ponder, and believe me, ponder I have! I'm not exactly sure when a possessed mage becomes "culpable," but in the case of Anders versus Connor, I see Anders as much more responsible for his actions than a child that wasn't fully trained in magic.  I think you can only take it on a case by case basis, which honestly muddles any consistancy in punishment for possessed mages, which seems to be a major reason why the Chantry seems to have such a linear view of what that punishment must be (meaning they supply that consistancy by simply enforcing a "no-mercy" policy; at least in my view).  
As for your second question, I honestly think it's more of a quick-fix solution rather than a punishment.  I believe that they are trying to minimize "the possible damage" as you stated, and knowing that a possession could end very badly (and bloody) I can see where their fears and quick action is justified (although, as has been argued in the thread before, I don't necessarily enjoy the generalizations and prejudices that are heaped upon mages simply because they COULD become an abomination... but that's beside the point).

It is an interesting analogy of real-life crime committed by mentally unstable people, and my guess is that real-life political stances kind of divide people on their game opinions, too. Well, I have killed Connor once myself, but I felt absolutely horrible and despite hating Isolde's stupidity, I swore never to do it again.

I killed Connor once too and I had to reload because I just couldn't let my Warden go on with that decision.  Lame I know, but I'm a total soft touch.  I have yet to play a Renegade Shephard, let alone a Templar siding Hawke or pragmatic (I'm not sure if that's the best way to describe it) Warden... meh.

After typing that, I'm not even sure I made sense.  Oh well... SUBMIT. 

[Dasha Dreyson]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

Well, you guys.
Thank you....for the 25 pages I now have to read. >.>
Anyone want to draw up a summary of the **** you've been talking about all night?

A drama llama came in?
Anders picturey goodness...
dress up Anders FTW!

[LastFadingSmile]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Oh, oh! *flails violently*

Since someone brought up the Anders playlist again, I know Mumford and Sons "Little Lion Man" is already on there, but seriously, their song "The Cave" is so perfect.

1) It mentions the Maker.
2) These lyrics:
"Because I need freedom now
And I need to know how
To live my life as it's meant to be"

Not to mention  "You cannibal, you meat-eater, you see"  

[Eternal Phoenix]

[YamiSnuffles]

Kolotosa wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Oh, oh! *flails violently*

Since someone brought up the Anders playlist again, I know Mumford and Sons "Little Lion Man" is already on there, but seriously, their song "The Cave" is so perfect.

1) It mentions the Maker.
2) These lyrics:
"Because I need freedom now
And I need to know how
To live my life as it's meant to be"

Not to mention  "You cannibal, you meat-eater, you see"  

Hahaha. Yes! That may actually be the first part of it that made me think of Anders...

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Pseudocognition wrote...

I like the poetic justice angle for the sake of a story and holding on to precious plot threads but if it was real life I'd kill him.

Lots of people say that.

Personally, I don't know how I'd react because the idea of such a thing happening in real life seems so impossible...
And it depends on viewpoints and what "side" of the war you're on.

Personally, I'm uncertain (knowing the circumstances as I do) whether I'd kill him or forgive him.

In reality, I suppose I'd just let him go and see what fate decides.

[thebrute7]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

thebrute7 wrote...

I made a post saying I would post my rationale for my belief that Anders blowing up the chantry was not in fact terrorism

*twitches violently*

That being said, I have few issues with your argument beyond "I disagree" over the nature of what is and is not a military target in a time of war undertaken by a sovereign authority.  But that's more of an argument for a different time - perhaps even a different forum.  I usually only interject my whole terrorism thing into discussions that seem to be missing the point of what the term implies and you have not.  

*bows*

Thank the lord for people who can think things over rationally.  I don't actually ask that people believe the same thing I do about it.  I only ask that they understand where I come from.  And I totally agree about misuse of the term "terrorism" which is essentially my argument.  It doesn't really reflect on the moral rightness or wrongness of his action other than removing the "It is automatically wrong because it was terrorism".  I still haven't decided whether I think it was wrong or not since I still waffle back and forth...

Mmmm... waffles.   I think my Hawke needs to bake Anders waffles.  He is looking a bit thin.

[aquaticidioticus]

Found another. Sharing is caring right?

http://aimo.devianta...nders-203611327

[theskywalker]

Kolotosa wrote...

I remember last week sometime, a call to arms was issued for more "revolutionary" songs for the Anders playlist -- or at the very least, less angsty, broody, omfgmyheartwhyyyyyyy songs. To that end, I wanted to suggest:

This Is Why We Fight - The Decemberists


And also give you this d'awwww :3


by Fon-Rosenbutt

This is lovely  

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Elton John is dead wrote...

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My first thought seeing this?

"Wow, the image editing sucks!"

Second thought: Must be Monday, again.

Modifié par Dreaming-in-Shadow, 11 avril 2011 - 05:11 .