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[griffondor]

I avoided a romance with Anders the first time... having someone tell me they are going to break my heart, does not make me want them more, so I never let it continue my first play through. The second play through, I went ahead and romanced him. The experience wasn't all that different from a friendship. Whether you are friend or lover, he never stops saying that he doesn't want to hurt Hawk and keeps repeating that he doesn't deserve her trust. And if you rival him, he still martyrs himself to his cause.

In his final quest, when he asks you to gather supplies, he is honest if you challenge him--he admits that he is up to something dangerous, that he doesn't want to see you get hurt or be involved, and there is no way of stopping him. He is very protective on the surface, but with that dangerous undercurrent always present.

Still, you never really know until that last defining moment. The fact that, in the end, he doesn't blame his actions on Justice, that he takes responsibility for his actions, that even if you say he must die, he says he is glad to have had some happiness with you, makes me think that even if you never met Anders, he would have ended up doing something like this.

That consistency makes me thing that his feelings for Hawk are genuine.
His cause is the most important thing to him and he never once denies
this.

Oh... a round about way of saying, he got to me too.

Modifié par griffondor, 18 mars 2011 - 08:02 .

[nodice]

maselphie wrote...

EnchantedEyes1 wrote...

I don't have the exact convo hand (I'm at work) but he says something to the effect that it would be worse if Hawke did agree with what he was doing.

Are you talking about when the PC can ask "why didn't you tell me? I might have understood." and he's like "what if you wanted to stop me, or worse, wanted to help?"

Didn't we already talk about this.

[VampOrchid]

K this is totally random, but I think Bradley Cooper would make an Awsum Anders.

Pic here.

For some reason, everytime I hear the current voice for anders I think of the guy that played Prince Nuada in Hellboy 2. Sounds pretty close.

[Sialater]

nodice wrote...

maselphie wrote...

EnchantedEyes1 wrote...

I don't have the exact convo hand (I'm at work) but he says something to the effect that it would be worse if Hawke did agree with what he was doing.

Are you talking about when the PC can ask "why didn't you tell me? I might have understood." and he's like "what if you wanted to stop me, or worse, wanted to help?"

Didn't we already talk about this.

It's going to be discussed again and again and again...

[Eydris Ivo]

Addai67 wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...
He also says that he did not want any of the blame on her shoulders.  Technically, all those outside of the situation will blame Anders only, never Hawke.  Anders gives him/her the chance to help the cause, but the removes the chance that he/she would get blamed for it.  It's a little weird and messed up, yes, but I can see some reasoning in it.

He says that, but how realistic is it?  She helped him build the bomb and distract the Grand Cleric while he planted it- just who is going to believe that Hawke didn't do that knowingly, especially if you spare him?  The immediate response to it is to annul the Circle, so regardless of Anders' intentions, he is not the only one who is blamed for his actions.

I know this is late, but I was away from the computer. I agree it was strange, and even if I didn't know the outcome (spoilers gah!) I would have known he was up to something. But I always looked at is him trying to reach his 'end result' without the blame falling on me at all. I don't think he expected to be spared, thus the blame falling on Hawke as well.

[EnchantedEyes1]

nodice wrote...

maselphie wrote...

EnchantedEyes1 wrote...

I don't have the exact convo hand (I'm at work) but he says something to the effect that it would be worse if Hawke did agree with what he was doing.

Are you talking about when the PC can ask "why didn't you tell me? I might have understood." and he's like "what if you wanted to stop me, or worse, wanted to help?"

Didn't we already talk about this.

@maselphie, yes thanks.

Perhaps, but I was that is what I was refering to since you asked.

Edited for clarification

Modifié par EnchantedEyes1, 18 mars 2011 - 07:34 .

[YamiSnuffles]

I personally would like to move back to discussions of kittens and shirtlessness. =D

DA2 was depressing enough without having to rehash all that depression ad nauseum. Sadly, I am too argumentative to stay out of it when something gets brought up.

[Eydris Ivo]

This is totally off topic and on a happy note, did anyone else feel that the love scene music was so absolutely perfect? When he gives you that look after you tell him he's not going to lose you? How it chimes in at the perfect moment?

[Eydris Ivo]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

I personally would like to move back to discussions of kittens and shirtlessness. =D

DA2 was depressing enough without having to rehash all that depression ad nauseum. Sadly, I am too argumentative to stay out of it when something gets brought up.

I could re-link that video
And that artwork with Anders and the cat...gah...*puddle*

[maselphie]

Happy thought time: Considering how tortured and hopeless Anders is ... at least he was happy when we loved him. He even says that right before you kill him, that he was glad he was able to be happy.

Modifié par maselphie, 18 mars 2011 - 07:35 .

[EnchantedEyes1]

Rheia1234 wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

I personally would like to move back to discussions of kittens and shirtlessness. =D

DA2 was depressing enough without having to rehash all that depression ad nauseum. Sadly, I am too argumentative to stay out of it when something gets brought up.

I could re-link that video
And that artwork with Anders and the cat...gah...*puddle*

The links and artwork are what helps me get through the day here at work so please keep posting

[Eydris Ivo]

EnchantedEyes1 wrote...

Rheia1234 wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

I personally would like to move back to discussions of kittens and shirtlessness. =D

DA2 was depressing enough without having to rehash all that depression ad nauseum. Sadly, I am too argumentative to stay out of it when something gets brought up.

I could re-link that video
And that artwork with Anders and the cat...gah...*puddle*

The links and artwork are what helps me get through the day here at work so please keep posting

Ninja shirtless Anders who walked all the way from Darktown with no shoes or shirt!

THAT is love!

[Rinji the Bearded]

maselphie wrote...

Happy thought time: Considering how tortured and hopeless Anders is ... at least he was happy when we loved him. He even says that right before you kill him, that he was glad he was able to be happy.

Haha, we need to form a support group or something.

Yeah, that whole part in Act 1, if you take the snarky route with that woman that tells you about Anders, he says that he never smiled... so seeing him smile those few times was...

*wibble, sob sob sob*

[silver-crescent]

maselphie wrote...

Happy thought time: Considering how tortured and hopeless Anders is ... at least he was happy when we loved him. He even says that right before you kill him, that he was glad he was able to be happy.

That's true, and he seems happy when Hawke decides to stay with him at the end too. He even mentions children :innocent:

[YamiSnuffles]

I think the romance scene is perfect. It all just... fits. I dunno. Although, I can't decide if I like the more mushy options or, "Want a sandwich?" The way Anders laughs and his expression when you use the joke response is just priceless.

[tallon1982]

With all the aww'ing and drooling I'm going to need a new keyboard soon lmao

[maselphie]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Yeah, that whole part in Act 1, if you take the snarky route with that woman that tells you about Anders, he says that he never smiled... so seeing him smile those few times was...

Aww, yeah, on my 2nd playthrough I did the snarky choice and she said he never smiled and I thought of all the times he smiled for me and I b'awwwed. 

Modifié par maselphie, 18 mars 2011 - 07:43 .

[nodice]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

I think the romance scene is perfect. It all just... fits. I dunno. Although, I can't decide if I like the more mushy options or, "Want a sandwich?" The way Anders laughs and his expression when you use the joke response is just priceless.

It's absolutely amazing, along with the kissing scene. I watched both like four times. The sandwich line really has to be said, Anders is so awesome with sarcastic Hawke (also awesome)

[Rinji the Bearded]

Haha, what I really liked about that sandwich dialogue was the way he approached you about the moving in thing. He approached it more cautiously, then when Hawke asks "Are you asking to move in?" and then he goes "Well... yes" in that cute, worried tone of voice, I freaking melted.  Goddammit Anders.

I wonder what the inspiration was behind that line?  LOL.  It was so out of left field and hilarious.  Anders was being all cute, but then all melancholy ... then suddenly, "Want a sandwich?"  I died.  I just imagine my Hawke was standing there post-loving, staring in the fire, going "sheesh, I'm hungry -- oh hi Anders, want a sandwich?"

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 18 mars 2011 - 07:55 .

[Galagraphia]

I love the sandwich line! I think it's the best way to say "I love you" ))) And it makes Anders smile

Also, I think The Kiss in the clinic deserves some sort of a prize, like MTV movie awards, because it was the best kiss I've ever seen in video games.

[Reverie]

I've got to try the sandwich line now, and yes the kiss in the clinic is my favourite part.

Oh and hi. New here.

[VampOrchid]

I'm excited to see what the modders will do with the love scenes though. Should be...interesting

[nodice]

Galagraphia wrote...

I love the sandwich line! I think it's the best way to say "I love you" ))) And it makes Anders smile

Also, I think The Kiss in the clinic deserves some sort of a prize, like MTV movie awards, because it was the best kiss I've ever seen in video games.

Even better way to say "boy, all that sexing made me hungry". Anders must be quite a machine.

It was the best kiss in videogames. (The best sex scene is still in Heavy Rain.)

[YamiSnuffles]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Haha, what I really liked about that sandwich dialogue was the way he approached you about the moving in thing. He approached it more cautiously, then when Hawke asks "Are you asking to move in?" and then he goes "Well... yes" in that cute, worried tone of voice, I freaking melted.  Goddammit Anders.

I wonder what the inspiration was behind that line?  LOL.  It was so out of left field and hilarious.  Anders was being all cute, but then all melancholy ... then suddenly, "Want a sandwich?"  I died.  I just imagine my Hawke was standing there post-loving, staring in the fire, going "sheesh, I'm hungry -- oh hi Anders, want a sandwich?"

This a million times. The way he reacts is so freaking cute and then he keeps getting cuter. <3

[Sialater]

It hasn't QUITE surpassed the Night Before Ilos for me, but it's up there.