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[Dasha Dreyson]

Visions of Jethann in the intro to ME1 are filling my head. Thanks for that.

[Kawamura]

Dasha Dreyson wrote...

Visions of Jethann in the intro to ME1 are filling my head. Thanks for that.

...

Why is this not already a mod? I would play man Shep if he was a sassy elf.

[CatOfEvilGenius]

Amondra wrote...

I agree with the Chantry being a military target, as with the opinions given here it does make sense. It is because of that and also the points about the Grand Cleric, my heart doesn't break as much as it normally would. Though I still wish it could have gone another way. Also I hope that the event calms Justice for a while. as much as I feel for Anders. I feel just as bad for Justice.

Poor Justice.   I'm so there with you.

I could maybe, possibly, buy Elthina's office being a military target, but not a public place of worship.  It's not barracks, it's not templar HQ, it's a church.  The brothers and sisters and mothers in the chantry are not templars.  They're not oppressing the mages, unless we broaden the definition of "oppress the mages" to include "spread the Andrastian faith".  Yeah, the religion is used to justify the Circle system, but NOT to justify things like templars raping apprentices, or the Tranquil Solution, or invoking the Right of Annulment because it's Thursday.   Anders himself says killing the people in the chantry was an injustice, and a price must be paid for it.

If the goal was just to kill Elthina, believing her to be personally responsible, she could have been sniped without blowing up anything.  Several folks here, and Anders in the game, have said the goal was to 1) remove the possiblity of peaceful talk and 2) force the mages into a battle.  Blowing up the chantry accomplishes those goals.

Was Anders trying to minimize casualties?  I doubt it.  If you want to inflame and enrage, more dead people is the way to go.  I just can't see Justice sparing people either.  He was going to kill Ella for thinking he was a demon, and Ella was the person he'd been trying to protect a second ago.  Awakenings Justice would surely care about civilian casualties, but not crazypants Justice.

Grace is currently at the top of my Most Hated list.  If she hadn't been a crazy b*tch and killed Thrask, the mage underground would not have been nearly wiped out.  Templars didn't wipe it out, the underground wiped itself out.
edit: Anders would probably have been less desperate if the underground were going strong.

* reloads "kill Grace" combat *

Modifié par CatOfEvilGenius, 12 avril 2011 - 12:53 .

[Amondra]

Sorry random question on templar's do they take Lyrium like the potions or the grated down refined powder used to make said potions?

My Hake is addicted to the stuff in my fanfic, and I want to get this stuff right.

[Dunizel]

Tasmen wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

One per referrall, two per requestm and five per fill.

Ten if the fill involves Jethann. 

There is a surprising lack of good Jethann 'filling' on k!meme.

True, maybe he is just that awesome that people is scared to touch him in a fanfic (whatever pun you want to see here, do it!)

Kawamura wrote...

Dasha Dreyson wrote...

Visions of Jethann in the intro to ME1 are filling my head. Thanks for that.

...

Why is this not already a mod? I would play man Shep if he was a sassy elf.

On the other hand, now I can't for the life of me play again M!Shep after knowing he is voiced by the same actor as Jethann. It just turn the entire ME in some hilariuos sci-fi novel.

Modifié par Dunizel, 12 avril 2011 - 12:51 .

[Camilladilla]

Tasmen wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

One per referrall, two per requestm and five per fill.

Ten if the fill involves Jethann. 

There is a surprising lack of good Jethann 'filling' on k!meme.

I'm half tempted to make a Jethann/manShep request, but the kinkmeme's already full of silly prompts in the first place and what's even better is that people are actually filling them.

Such as C*ckblocking Andraste Belt Buckle.

[leggywillow]

Amondra wrote...

Sorry random question on templar's do they take Lyrium like the potions or the grated down refined powder used to make said potions?

My Hake is addicted to the stuff in my fanfic, and I want to get this stuff right.

I think it's the potions.

But the thought of templars sniffing lines of lyrium makes me giggle lots.

[CatOfEvilGenius]

Amondra wrote...

Sorry random question on templar's do they take Lyrium like the potions or the grated down refined powder used to make said potions?

My Hake is addicted to the stuff in my fanfic, and I want to get this stuff right.

If you get Samson the ex-templar lyrium junkie reinstated, he talks about all the lyrium you can quaff, so that indicates potions.  In DAO, you can turn in lyrium potions some mages were going to bribe the templars with, so again, that points to potions.  You smuggle lyrium dust or ore out of Orzammar, to the guy in the wardrobe in the Circle, but I suspect he would have had it made into potions.  That's all I remember, hope that helps.

[Tasmen]

Kawamura wrote...

Dasha Dreyson wrote...

Visions of Jethann in the intro to ME1 are filling my head. Thanks for that.

...

Why is this not already a mod? I would play man Shep if he was a sassy elf.

Have you not seen this?

[SurelyForth]

Camilladilla wrote...

I'm half tempted to make a Jethann/manShep request, but the kinkmeme's already full of silly prompts in the first place and what's even better is that people are actually filling them.

Such as C*ckblocking Andraste Belt Buckle.

*giggles madly at ****blocking Andraste*

And now I want a Jethann Shepard romancing Garrus short. He could, no doubt, do so very much with the reach and flexibility conversation.

[Dasha Dreyson]

Tasmen wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

Dasha Dreyson wrote...

Visions of Jethann in the intro to ME1 are filling my head. Thanks for that.

...

Why is this not already a mod? I would play man Shep if he was a sassy elf.

Have you not seen this?

My hubby rolls his eyes every time I play that.

Modifié par Dasha Dreyson, 12 avril 2011 - 12:54 .

[Amondra]

Thanks Leggywillow and CatOfEvilGenius! That does help. Like I said just didn't want to screw it up

[Tasmen]

Camilladilla wrote...

Tasmen wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

One per referrall, two per requestm and five per fill.

Ten if the fill involves Jethann. 

There is a surprising lack of good Jethann 'filling' on k!meme.

I'm half tempted to make a Jethann/manShep request, but the kinkmeme's already full of silly prompts in the first place and what's even better is that people are actually filling them.

Such as C*ckblocking Andraste Belt Buckle.

I know nothing of that fill.  Not at all *whistle*

[Ace Attorney]

http://fc09.devianta...nix-d3drp3d.jpg


http://fc06.devianta...rry-d3dr5mj.jpg

[Camilladilla]

Tasmen wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

Tasmen wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

One per referrall, two per requestm and five per fill.

Ten if the fill involves Jethann. 

There is a surprising lack of good Jethann 'filling' on k!meme.

I'm half tempted to make a Jethann/manShep request, but the kinkmeme's already full of silly prompts in the first place and what's even better is that people are actually filling them.

Such as C*ckblocking Andraste Belt Buckle.

I know nothing of that fill.  Not at all *whistle*

Woman,  you are marvelous

[CatOfEvilGenius]

Atonement fanfic, who wrote that? Amondra?

I was reading it before Avast said my computer was about to explode. After wiping Iframe-inf and other sundry nasties off it, I can't find the Atonement page again. (The nasties were not from Atonement, they were likely from some ad that didn't get blocked, on who knows what site.)

[thebrute7]

Amondra wrote...

Sorry random question on templar's do they take Lyrium like the potions or the grated down refined powder used to make said potions?

My Hake is addicted to the stuff in my fanfic, and I want to get this stuff right.

Potions I believe.  Speaking of which... I demand an update!  I love your story.

[Sialater]

CatOfEvilGenius wrote...

Amondra wrote...

I agree with the Chantry being a military target, as with the opinions given here it does make sense. It is because of that and also the points about the Grand Cleric, my heart doesn't break as much as it normally would. Though I still wish it could have gone another way. Also I hope that the event calms Justice for a while. as much as I feel for Anders. I feel just as bad for Justice.

Poor Justice.   I'm so there with you.

I could maybe, possibly, buy Elthina's office being a military target, but not a public place of worship.  It's not barracks, it's not templar HQ, it's a church.  The brothers and sisters and mothers in the chantry are not templars.  They're not oppressing the mages, unless we broaden the definition of "oppress the mages" to include "spread the Andrastian faith".  Yeah, the religion is used to justify the Circle system, but NOT to justify things like templars raping apprentices, or the Tranquil Solution, or invoking the Right of Annulment because it's Thursday.   Anders himself says killing the people in the chantry was an injustice, and a price must be paid for it.

If the goal was just to kill Elthina, believing her to be personally responsible, she could have been sniped without blowing up anything.  Several folks here, and Anders in the game, have said the goal was to 1) remove the possiblity of peaceful talk and 2) force the mages into a battle.  Blowing up the chantry accomplishes those goals.

Was Anders trying to minimize casualties?  I doubt it.  If you want to inflame and enrage, more dead people is the way to go.  I just can't see Justice sparing people either.  He was going to kill Ella for thinking he was a demon, and Ella was the person he'd been trying to protect a second ago.  Awakenings Justice would surely care about civilian casualties, but not crazypants Justice.

Grace is currently at the top of my Most Hated list.  If she hadn't been a crazy b*tch and killed Thrask, the mage underground would not have been nearly wiped out.  Templars didn't wipe it out, the underground wiped itself out.
edit: Anders would probably have been less desperate if the underground were going strong.

* reloads "kill Grace" combat *

Ugh... that ****.  I want to dig her up and kill her all over again.  And Orsino for sicking us on her to drive them to that.

[Kawamura]

Dunizel wrote...


On the other hand, now I can't for the life of me play again M!Shep after knowing he is voiced by the same actor as Jethann. It just turn the entire ME in some hilariuos sci-fi novel.

That's one of the best kind of sci fi novels.

[leggywillow]

Tasmen wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...
I'm half tempted to make a Jethann/manShep request, but the kinkmeme's already full of silly prompts in the first place and what's even better is that people are actually filling them.

Such as C*ckblocking Andraste Belt Buckle.

I know nothing of that fill.  Not at all *whistle*

Bahahahaha, that's fabulous.  You are the queen of crack fills on the kinkmeme (which are the best kind, in my opinion)! 

[CatOfEvilGenius]

T3hAnubis wrote...

http://fc09.devianta...nix-d3drp3d.jpg

I will look at this next time I'm really down because of David Gaider's damn work of fiction and feel much, much better.  Thank you!

[Amondra]

@CatOfEvilGenius: Oh no I didn't write that one, it is a good on isn't it?! Mine is "What is Justice?"

@thebrute7: Almost down with chapter nine -.- This is one of those long chapters(long considering how short all of them are) It should be up today. I am working on it as I read this forum.

[Tasmen]

leggywillow wrote...

Tasmen wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...
I'm half tempted to make a Jethann/manShep request, but the kinkmeme's already full of silly prompts in the first place and what's even better is that people are actually filling them.

Such as C*ckblocking Andraste Belt Buckle.

I know nothing of that fill.  Not at all *whistle*

Bahahahaha, that's fabulous.  You are the queen of crack fills on the kinkmeme (which are the best kind, in my opinion)! 

I'm loving the DA2 k!meme.  People are getting just crazy with the requests, more so than with the DAO one.

[Ryzaki]

I hate Grace because she had a giant "WILL BITE YOU IN THE ASS LATER." sign and the plot demands I do nothing about it.

UGH.

I can stab Javaris for simply annoying me but I can't kill the girl who might be a bloodmage? Come on!

[Poetics124]

CatOfEvilGenius wrote...

Amondra wrote...

I agree with the Chantry being a military target, as with the opinions given here it does make sense. It is because of that and also the points about the Grand Cleric, my heart doesn't break as much as it normally would. Though I still wish it could have gone another way. Also I hope that the event calms Justice for a while. as much as I feel for Anders. I feel just as bad for Justice.

Poor Justice.   I'm so there with you.

I could maybe, possibly, buy Elthina's office being a military target, but not a public place of worship.  It's not barracks, it's not templar HQ, it's a church.  The brothers and sisters and mothers in the chantry are not templars.  They're not oppressing the mages, unless we broaden the definition of "oppress the mages" to include "spread the Andrastian faith".  Yeah, the religion is used to justify the Circle system, but NOT to justify things like templars raping apprentices, or the Tranquil Solution, or invoking the Right of Annulment because it's Thursday.   Anders himself says killing the people in the chantry was an injustice, and a price must be paid for it.

If the goal was just to kill Elthina, believing her to be personally responsible, she could have been sniped without blowing up anything.  Several folks here, and Anders in the game, have said the goal was to 1) remove the possiblity of peaceful talk and 2) force the mages into a battle.  Blowing up the chantry accomplishes those goals.

Was Anders trying to minimize casualties?  I doubt it.  If you want to inflame and enrage, more dead people is the way to go.  I just can't see Justice sparing people either.  He was going to kill Ella for thinking he was a demon, and Ella was the person he'd been trying to protect a second ago.  Awakenings Justice would surely care about civilian casualties, but not crazypants Justice.

I think that in the world of DA, that the Chantry is a legitimate political and military target as well as a faith.   The Chantry controls the supply of lyrium that in turn controls the templars.  Alistiar, in the first game, explains it rather well in that the Chantry can keep the templars in check both because Templars become dependent on lyrium and because the chantry is in charge of the supply coming in and out of templar hands.  If you have ever seen the show DS9, Templars are a lot like the Jem'Hadar who were controlled by the founders through their intoxication of a drug and their religious beliefs that the founders were gods.  Templars are a lot like that and are trained by the chantry to control magic and mages for the chantry's benefit.  Templars are the fist and the Chantry is the brain. 

 The Chantry are the ones that control whether a circle can be destroyed and if Elthina told Meredith as far as Act I to stop the abuses, Meredith would have.   Templars answer to the chantry and the Divine as holy warriors.  They lead exalted marches on their behalf.  There would be no templars if the Chantry didn't exist, nor any circles of magi.  And there would be no belief that mages are lesser than regular people and should be locked up for the rest of their lives and under the control of the templars.

The Chantry and the Templars can't really be separated in my opinion.  This is not say that I think that Anders is right in what he does (that's a whole other topic) but I do see and, in a weird way, understand what drove him to that point and why he felt he had no recourse.  Especially knowing that he knows it is only a matter of time before the Divine orders Kirkwall burned to the ground and all mages murdered anyway.