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Threeparts wrote...

I'm curious: did you reach a point in your game where your canon Hawke would have put their foot down and said, "Hey, whoa, hold on a second, I'm getting off this crazy train," and departed from the actual events that transpired? I assume so, since we've discussed before about wanting to get out of Kirkwall after Leandra's death, but what is the specific point where your story would have split from the one written?

For me, my Hawke would have declined the Viscount's request to talk to the Arishok in Act II, with a, "Dude, I'm wearing bracers with -17 to tact and my trusty Boots of Insolence. Are you sure about this?"
She's a nobody who does the occasional odd job because she needs the cash and in absolutely no way is she qualified for the delicate task of negotiating with the frigging Qunari of all people, whether Big Blue asked for her by name or not.


Yes. For some right after all that remains. For others after cleaning up the mess with blackpowder courtesy. I have a few that might've tried (and probably got caught/killed) fleeing during the last quest in Act 2. And a few more who would've left after act 2 started but before act 3 did. It varies depending on which Hawke. 

Your Hawke sounds fun. ^_^ 

Mine were mostly just tired and sick of people who should be doing their jobs leaving their mess for him to deal with. Peatrice and Meredith both should've been reigned in by their superiors. Instead their superiors sat ontheir hands doing nothing while Hawke has to deal with the fallout. 

Edit: That said I haven't decided on my canon Hawke yet. I need to wait for all the dialogue bugs to be fixed .

It's a toss up between Gabriel and Leon though. Gabriel wouldn't have left (he's a powerhungry bastard who would've killed his own mother for the power he has now) and Leon would've left right after all that remains. (He was rather...fragile. Probably would've jumped off a bridge). 

Edit: ToP

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Ryzaki wrote...

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Ah I assumed the OW had an accent. Just...being unvoiced means you never heard it. Everyone else did though. 


I was thinking of battle-cries and such.
Such as the infamous: "Can I get you a ladder, so you can get off my back?"


LOL

Yeah I had a mod to take the combat voice out. It bugged me how the PC would respond to me felt a bit...breaking the 4th wallish. 


I think Nathaniel nearly broke the fourth wall once... was it him?

i think he said "Do you ever feel like somebody is playing games with you?" or "controling your actions" or something like that on selection...

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Threeparts wrote...

I'm curious: did you reach a point in your game where your canon Hawke would have put their foot down and said, "Hey, whoa, hold on a second, I'm getting off this crazy train," and departed from the actual events that transpired? I assume so, since we've discussed before about wanting to get out of Kirkwall after Leandra's death, but what is the specific point where your story would have split from the one written?

For me, my Hawke would have declined the Viscount's request to talk to the Arishok in Act II, with a, "Dude, I'm wearing bracers with -17 to tact and my trusty Boots of Insolence. Are you sure about this?"
She's a nobody who does the occasional odd job because she needs the cash and in absolutely no way is she qualified for the delicate task of negotiating with the frigging Qunari of all people, whether Big Blue asked for her by name or not.


I can never make Carver a Templar since that would hav Aerin Hawke leaving Kirkwall just so her brother wouldnt have any conflict between his duty to the templars and protecting his family.

Modifié par cleosilver, 12 avril 2011 - 01:24 .


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Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...
I think Nathaniel nearly broke the fourth wall once... was it him?

i think he said "Do you ever feel like somebody is playing games with you?" or "controling your actions" or something like that on selection...


Nah it was the "can I get you a ladder?" comment. I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle the Warden. <_<

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Ryzaki wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...
I think Nathaniel nearly broke the fourth wall once... was it him?

i think he said "Do you ever feel like somebody is playing games with you?" or "controling your actions" or something like that on selection...


Nah it was the "can I get you a ladder?" comment. I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle the Warden. <_<


Hawke does it a bit too during the conversation with Carver about his name. One of the options has her saying something like " I think someone thought long and hard about what my name means".  Given how much thought the roleplayers I know (me included) put into character names this amused me.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...
I think Nathaniel nearly broke the fourth wall once... was it him?

i think he said "Do you ever feel like somebody is playing games with you?" or "controling your actions" or something like that on selection...


Nah it was the "can I get you a ladder?" comment. I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle the Warden. <_<


I know the feeling.

More often, I wanted to do that to the characters... like Anders, Justice, Fenris, Wynne, Meredith... and hmm... Alistair.
The list could go on.

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I wish there had been a bit more at the end. He really wasn't acting as insane as I thought he should have been after all that. Maybe he was going catatonic.


He was riding high on a psychotic mania not long before, so I'm not surprised that he dropped hard to catatonia once he lost his focus on jenga'ing the Chantry.



Also why I don't get all that "I MARDARED Anders" hate. You killed a shattered and mentally ill individual, who was clearly not in control of himself, not an evil overlord hellbent on destruction of puppies and kittens. Happy now?

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Threeparts wrote...

I'm curious: did you reach a point in your game where your canon Hawke would have put their foot down and said, "Hey, whoa, hold on a second, I'm getting off this crazy train," and departed from the actual events that transpired? I assume so, since we've discussed before about wanting to get out of Kirkwall after Leandra's death, but what is the specific point where your story would have split from the one written?

For me, my Hawke would have declined the Viscount's request to talk to the Arishok in Act II, with a, "Dude, I'm wearing bracers with -17 to tact and my trusty Boots of Insolence. Are you sure about this?"

She's a nobody who does the occasional odd job because she needs the cash and in absolutely no way is she qualified for the delicate task of negotiating with the frigging Qunari of all people, whether Big Blue asked for her by name or not.


Haha, my Hawke too.  Luckily, she was also crazy enough to be amused by the bizarre way other people seemed to trust her with very serious responsibilities.  It wasn't until All That Remains that her facade cracked and she would've been ready to throw in the towel.

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I found myself clawing at every option to say I wanted to go back to Ferelden.

By the end game... "Can we go back to Ferelden now plz?... :crying:"

Thinking about it though there seems to be crap going down there too.



cannot escape.

Modifié par Batteries, 12 avril 2011 - 01:30 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...
I think Nathaniel nearly broke the fourth wall once... was it him?

i think he said "Do you ever feel like somebody is playing games with you?" or "controling your actions" or something like that on selection...


Nah it was the "can I get you a ladder?" comment. I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle the Warden. <_<


Yeah, Nathaniel has a random banter if you click on him while out adventuring that's along the lines of, "Do you ever feel like you're being controled by some unseen force?"

I don't remember it exactly, but it made me smile... as said unseen force then commanded him to undress.

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cleosilver wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...
I think Nathaniel nearly broke the fourth wall once... was it him?

i think he said "Do you ever feel like somebody is playing games with you?" or "controling your actions" or something like that on selection...


Nah it was the "can I get you a ladder?" comment. I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle the Warden. <_<


Hawke does it a bit too during the conversation with Carver about his name. One of the options has her saying something like " I think someone thought long and hard about what my name means".  Given how much thought the roleplayers I know (me included) put into character names this amused me.


I stuck with Marian, which could mean "uncertain", "bitter" or "from the sea".

...Bioware...?

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nekhbet wrote...

shiba5 wrote...

I wish there had been a bit more at the end. He really wasn't acting as insane as I thought he should have been after all that. Maybe he was going catatonic.


He was riding high on a psychotic mania not long before, so I'm not surprised that he dropped hard to catatonia once he lost his focus on jenga'ing the Chantry.



Also why I don't get all that "I MARDARED Anders" hate. You killed a shattered and mentally ill individual, who was clearly not in control of himself, not an evil overlord hellbent on destruction of puppies and kittens. Happy now?


I think it gives them all shameboners. :wizard:

Modifié par shiba5, 12 avril 2011 - 01:31 .


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cleosilver wrote...
Hawke does it a bit too during the conversation with Carver about his name. One of the options has her saying something like " I think someone thought long and hard about what my name means".  Given how much thought the roleplayers I know (me included) put into character names this amused me.


Ah I lol'd at that too. Especially considering I had named that Hawke Malcolm. :lol: 

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...
I know the feeling.

More often, I wanted to do that to the characters... like Anders, Justice, Fenris, Wynne, Meredith... and hmm... Alistair.
The list could go on.


I think I've wanted to hit everyone at least once. Anders and Fenris though...I wouldn't have minded an Aveline style beatdown on the two of them. :whistle: 

Mistress Tasharra wrote...
Yeah, Nathaniel has a random banter if you click on him while out adventuring that's along the lines of, "Do you ever feel like you're being controled by some unseen force?"

I don't remember it exactly, but it made me smile... as said unseen force then commanded him to undress.


Oh that sounds hilarious. 

Batteries wrote...

I found myself clawing at every option to say I wanted to go back to Ferelden.

By the end game... "Can we go back to Ferelden now plz?... :crying:"

Thinking about it though there seems to be crap going down there too.

cannot escape.


I know the feeling. :crying: And when King Alistair showed up I kind of wanted to scream "TAKE ME NOW! I'll cook and clean! And give you cheese! Just take me away from here!" :(

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nekhbet wrote...

He was riding high on a psychotic mania not long before, so I'm not surprised that he dropped hard to catatonia once he lost his focus on jenga'ing the Chantry.



Also why I don't get all that "I MARDARED Anders" hate. You killed a shattered and mentally ill individual, who was clearly not in control of himself, not an evil overlord hellbent on destruction of puppies and kittens. Happy now?


I suspect that a lot of these people just can't look past/enjoy a character's flaws. Anders had a lot of strikes against him before the chantry jenga just given all of the threads that crop up about him on these forums.

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Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...
I think Nathaniel nearly broke the fourth wall once... was it him?

i think he said "Do you ever feel like somebody is playing games with you?" or "controling your actions" or something like that on selection...


Nah it was the "can I get you a ladder?" comment. I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle the Warden. <_<


Yeah, Nathaniel has a random banter if you click on him while out adventuring that's along the lines of, "Do you ever feel like you're being controled by some unseen force?"

I don't remember it exactly, but it made me smile... as said unseen force then commanded him to undress.


Oh yes. :devil:

(And then unseen evil force of perversion will make Anders strip too... and several sick fetishes shall be satisfied!)

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Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...
I think Nathaniel nearly broke the fourth wall once... was it him?

i think he said "Do you ever feel like somebody is playing games with you?" or "controling your actions" or something like that on selection...


Nah it was the "can I get you a ladder?" comment. I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle the Warden. <_<


Yeah, Nathaniel has a random banter if you click on him while out adventuring that's along the lines of, "Do you ever feel like you're being controled by some unseen force?"

I don't remember it exactly, but it made me smile... as said unseen force then commanded him to undress.


Oh yes. :devil:

(And then unseen evil force of perversion will make Anders strip too... and several sick fetishes shall be satisfied!)


Hell yes, if there is one complaint I have about this game, it is that there is not enough forced PDA.

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Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...
I think Nathaniel nearly broke the fourth wall once... was it him?

i think he said "Do you ever feel like somebody is playing games with you?" or "controling your actions" or something like that on selection...


Nah it was the "can I get you a ladder?" comment. I wanted to reach through the screen and strangle the Warden. <_<


Yeah, Nathaniel has a random banter if you click on him while out adventuring that's along the lines of, "Do you ever feel like you're being controled by some unseen force?"

I don't remember it exactly, but it made me smile... as said unseen force then commanded him to undress.


Oh yes. :devil:

(And then unseen evil force of perversion will make Anders strip too... and several sick fetishes shall be satisfied!)


Exactly!

(****. Let's throw Justice into the mix too and call it a party! Wooo!)

IsweartotheMakerI'mnotanecrophiliacpleasebelieveohMakerpleaceit'snotmyfault

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Ryzaki wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

I know the feeling.

More often, I wanted to do that to the characters... like Anders, Justice, Fenris, Wynne, Meredith... and hmm... Alistair.
The list could go on.


I think I've wanted to hit everyone at least once. Anders and Fenris though...I wouldn't have minded an Aveline style beatdown on the two of them. :whistle: 

Seriously, whatever happened to punching out characters for their own good?

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Hell yes, if there is one complaint I have about this game, it is that there is not enough forced PDA.


Or even just the occasional "hey, we're at home, let's screw like bunnies" option.

Such a missed opportunity.

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Camilladilla wrote...

shiba5 wrote...

Hell yes, if there is one complaint I have about this game, it is that there is not enough forced PDA.


Or even just the occasional "hey, we're at home, let's screw like bunnies" option.

Such a missed opportunity.


I was so let down in Act 3 when Anders finally moved in... and never moved from the balcony. WHYYYYYYYY?!!!!!!

edit: He went down to the first floor to insult the dog once.

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shiba5 wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

shiba5 wrote...

Hell yes, if there is one complaint I have about this game, it is that there is not enough forced PDA.


Or even just the occasional "hey, we're at home, let's screw like bunnies" option.

Such a missed opportunity.


I was so let down in Act 3 when Anders finally moved in... and never moved from the balcony. WHYYYYYYYY?!!!!!!


Anders only put out so you would move him in. Once he moved in Anders cuts you off. :lol:  

Dasha Dreyson wrote...
Seriously, whatever happened to punching out characters for their own good?


I don't know. That's why Meredith and Orsino are so crazy. They never got a decent beating. 

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I know the feeling. :crying: And when King Alistair showed up I kind of wanted to scream "TAKE ME NOW! I'll cook and clean! And give you cheese! Just take me away from here!" :(


Tell me about it. I'd rather deal with another Ferelden civil war than the crazies in Kirkwall.

I mean really. Was it me, or was everyone in Kirkwall "one Archdemon short of a blight?"

Well, besides Hawke and Varric. Then again, just how crazy does Hawke have to be to stick around, and Varric to hang about and write about it, no less.

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The only way I've been able to justify killing him is a Hawke that has a tendency to murderknife anyway. Anders doesn't learn anything when he dies -- in fact, it seems like that's exactly what he wants. Letting him go and/or killing him if you side with the Templars seems like a better option to me, as he at least sees exactly what he has wrought for a little while. When I let him live with my first play through, he said something like "This... isn't what I had expected," when we were running through Lowtown, and it was strangely satisfying ... It in no way completely made up for what he did, but it was a tiny baby step, at least to me.

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shiba5 wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

shiba5 wrote...

Hell yes, if there is one complaint I have about this game, it is that there is not enough forced PDA.


Or even just the occasional "hey, we're at home, let's screw like bunnies" option.

Such a missed opportunity.


I was so let down in Act 3 when Anders finally moved in... and never moved from the balcony. WHYYYYYYYY?!!!!!!

edit: He went down to the first floor to insult the dog once.

Because most of the time he was still really in the clinic. It was a tevinter statue he painted and told to act like him since he didn't think Hawke would actually notice.

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Ryzaki wrote...

shiba5 wrote...

Camilladilla wrote...

shiba5 wrote...

Hell yes, if there is one complaint I have about this game, it is that there is not enough forced PDA.


Or even just the occasional "hey, we're at home, let's screw like bunnies" option.

Such a missed opportunity.


I was so let down in Act 3 when Anders finally moved in... and never moved from the balcony. WHYYYYYYYY?!!!!!!


Anders only put out so you would move him in. Once he moved in Anders cuts you off. :lol:


He's a nasty tease.