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[silver-crescent]

RinjiRenee wrote...

"They got Whatshisname! The Mage! Damnit!"

I bet Varric knew Anders wasn't Anders's real name.

[Jean]

I wish Aveline's "The whiny mage is down!" would be in there, I've never heard it.

Why don't any of them ever say his name? XD

[nyxocity]

Sialater wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Hey, if the Warden and Hawke got into a fight, who would win?
And what would Anders do?

If it hasn't already been said... Anders would set up a convenient pool filled with Jello right behind them and then sit back and wait for the magic to happen.  Possibly using magic to surreptitiously tear their clothes a little bit.  It would be glorious.  Eventually, Hawke and the Warden would realize that Anders was giggling and leering like a dirty old perv and stop fighting each other to fight him.

And then things would really get kinky.  Alistair would not approve.

Alistair MIGHT approve. If you hardened him. Pun intended.

Wet frocks. 

All I'm saying.

And in DA2 if you did the threesome with Isabela, you're supposed to get this:

Isabela: I guess now that you're king, borrowing you for the summer is out?
Alistair: *laughs* I... um... well, I don't know.

[shiba5]

thenyxie wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Alistair, with his charming wit, flying dogs and love of cheese, and I just LOVE how you can tease each other, and even in DA2 he's still doing it by refering to you as "the old ball and chain". Alistair is just to be adored.

Anders is so much more complex, snarky, b*tchy, tortured and utterly a mess when you get down to it, but ultimately loving and sweet and he makes you want to hold him and tell him everything will be okay. Anders makes my heart ache constantly with how much I love him.

They're completely different, and if you asked me to pick, I couldn't.

I'd definitely pick Anders straight up. Sure, he's a mess by the end, but he's a mature man by the time you meet him, with his own life, goals, opinions, and job. He's willing to argue with Hawke, he will break up with you if you do something that goes against his principles, and he stands up for himself.

I like Alistair, but he was just kind of floating along, living the life that had been handed to him. He is, as he says, a follower, and he never really seems to make his own decisions or choose something for himself until the various Landsmeet outcomes. The awkward Persuasion/Intimidation checks make him seem easily swayed by the Warden's opinions and willing to go along with just about anything you choose to do.

Anders felt like a whole, complex person, but Alistair's sweetness didn't stop me from feeling that he was just waiting for the Warden to "complete" him.

Each to their own, of course (and I'm courting Alistair in the game I have open right now), but I know which I'd snap up. 

Good points all. It never bothered me that Alistair was indecisive and a follower, though. His boyish charm and wit and romantic side made up for pretty much everything for me. By Act II of DA2 the first time through, everything was so dismal and I missed Alistair SO MUCH. And then I fell in love with Anders in such a completely different way.

Allistair is like the Warden's BFF. You get to make all his decisions for him, but really he's just your funny, sidekick who you get to bone in camp at night. Later, you can turn him into a real man and he's the fantasy Disney character.
Anders... is not.

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Dasha Dreyson wrote...

Batteries wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

For great justice.

I think Varric buys a new set of boots every week.

Especially since Hawke's enemies are setting traps out just to ruin his boots!

[Dasha Dreyson]

shiba5 wrote...

Yes, the thread never really moves on. It's more like it circles around and around like a toilet that won't flush.

... or it's a toilet that is constantly flushing because the cat keeps playing with the handle.

[nyxocity]

shiba5 wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Alistair, with his charming wit, flying dogs and love of cheese, and I just LOVE how you can tease each other, and even in DA2 he's still doing it by refering to you as "the old ball and chain". Alistair is just to be adored.

Anders is so much more complex, snarky, b*tchy, tortured and utterly a mess when you get down to it, but ultimately loving and sweet and he makes you want to hold him and tell him everything will be okay. Anders makes my heart ache constantly with how much I love him.

They're completely different, and if you asked me to pick, I couldn't.

I'd definitely pick Anders straight up. Sure, he's a mess by the end, but he's a mature man by the time you meet him, with his own life, goals, opinions, and job. He's willing to argue with Hawke, he will break up with you if you do something that goes against his principles, and he stands up for himself.

I like Alistair, but he was just kind of floating along, living the life that had been handed to him. He is, as he says, a follower, and he never really seems to make his own decisions or choose something for himself until the various Landsmeet outcomes. The awkward Persuasion/Intimidation checks make him seem easily swayed by the Warden's opinions and willing to go along with just about anything you choose to do.

Anders felt like a whole, complex person, but Alistair's sweetness didn't stop me from feeling that he was just waiting for the Warden to "complete" him.

Each to their own, of course (and I'm courting Alistair in the game I have open right now), but I know which I'd snap up. 

Good points all. It never bothered me that Alistair was indecisive and a follower, though. His boyish charm and wit and romantic side made up for pretty much everything for me. By Act II of DA2 the first time through, everything was so dismal and I missed Alistair SO MUCH. And then I fell in love with Anders in such a completely different way.

Allistair is like the Warden's BFF. You get to make all his decisions for him, but really he's just your funny, sidekick who you get to bone in camp at night. Later, you can turn him into a real man and he's the fantasy Disney character.
Anders... is not.

Yes, by comparison, Alistair is EASY to be with. But the fact that Anders is so frustrating is one of the reasons I adore him, too.

[Sialater]

thenyxie wrote...

Sialater wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

Dreaming-in-Shadow wrote...

Hey, if the Warden and Hawke got into a fight, who would win?
And what would Anders do?

If it hasn't already been said... Anders would set up a convenient pool filled with Jello right behind them and then sit back and wait for the magic to happen.  Possibly using magic to surreptitiously tear their clothes a little bit.  It would be glorious.  Eventually, Hawke and the Warden would realize that Anders was giggling and leering like a dirty old perv and stop fighting each other to fight him.

And then things would really get kinky.  Alistair would not approve.

Alistair MIGHT approve. If you hardened him. Pun intended.

Wet frocks. 

All I'm saying.

And in DA2 if you did the threesome with Isabela, you're supposed to get this:

Isabela: I guess now that you're king, borrowing you for the summer is out?
Alistair: *laughs* I... um... well, I don't know.

HAH!  Holy crap I have to bring her next time.  Does Anders' Grey Warden dialog override it, though, or do you get both?

[shiba5]

thenyxie wrote...

shiba5 wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Alistair, with his charming wit, flying dogs and love of cheese, and I just LOVE how you can tease each other, and even in DA2 he's still doing it by refering to you as "the old ball and chain". Alistair is just to be adored.

Anders is so much more complex, snarky, b*tchy, tortured and utterly a mess when you get down to it, but ultimately loving and sweet and he makes you want to hold him and tell him everything will be okay. Anders makes my heart ache constantly with how much I love him.

They're completely different, and if you asked me to pick, I couldn't.

I'd definitely pick Anders straight up. Sure, he's a mess by the end, but he's a mature man by the time you meet him, with his own life, goals, opinions, and job. He's willing to argue with Hawke, he will break up with you if you do something that goes against his principles, and he stands up for himself.

I like Alistair, but he was just kind of floating along, living the life that had been handed to him. He is, as he says, a follower, and he never really seems to make his own decisions or choose something for himself until the various Landsmeet outcomes. The awkward Persuasion/Intimidation checks make him seem easily swayed by the Warden's opinions and willing to go along with just about anything you choose to do.

Anders felt like a whole, complex person, but Alistair's sweetness didn't stop me from feeling that he was just waiting for the Warden to "complete" him.

Each to their own, of course (and I'm courting Alistair in the game I have open right now), but I know which I'd snap up. 

Good points all. It never bothered me that Alistair was indecisive and a follower, though. His boyish charm and wit and romantic side made up for pretty much everything for me. By Act II of DA2 the first time through, everything was so dismal and I missed Alistair SO MUCH. And then I fell in love with Anders in such a completely different way.

Allistair is like the Warden's BFF. You get to make all his decisions for him, but really he's just your funny, sidekick who you get to bone in camp at night. Later, you can turn him into a real man and he's the fantasy Disney character.
Anders... is not.

Yes, by comparison, Alistair is EASY to be with. But the fact that Anders is so frustrating is one of the reasons I adore him, too.

Well, Anders just needs to be Disneyfied.
(everyone would <3 him.)

Modifié par shiba5, 12 avril 2011 - 05:06 .

[leggywillow]

Sialater wrote...
HAH!  Holy crap I have to bring her next time.  Does Anders' Grey Warden dialog override it, though, or do you get both?

You should get both.  I don't think any companions get overridden in that scene.  Aveline, Anders, and Isabela all have reactions to Alistair and they'll all speak up if you have them in a party together.

[signcherie]

Threeparts wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Alistair, with his charming wit, flying dogs and love of cheese, and I just LOVE how you can tease each other, and even in DA2 he's still doing it by refering to you as "the old ball and chain". Alistair is just to be adored.

Anders is so much more complex, snarky, b*tchy, tortured and utterly a mess when you get down to it, but ultimately loving and sweet and he makes you want to hold him and tell him everything will be okay. Anders makes my heart ache constantly with how much I love him.

They're completely different, and if you asked me to pick, I couldn't.

I'd definitely pick Anders straight up. Sure, he's a mess by the end, but he's a mature man by the time you meet him, with his own life, goals, opinions, and job. He's willing to argue with Hawke, he will break up with you if you do something that goes against his principles, and he stands up for himself.

I like Alistair, but he was just kind of floating along, living the life that had been handed to him. He is, as he says, a follower, and he never really seems to make his own decisions or choose something for himself until the various Landsmeet outcomes. The awkward Persuasion/Intimidation checks make him seem easily swayed by the Warden's opinions and willing to go along with just about anything you choose to do.

Anders felt like a whole, complex person, but Alistair's sweetness didn't stop me from feeling that he was just waiting for the Warden to "complete" him.

Each to their own, of course (and I'm courting Alistair in the game I have open right now), but I know which I'd snap up. 

crazy abomination-ness > naivete?

[Jean]

Right. Who the hell was saying "Can't see much past all zee blood!"?

Modifié par Batteries, 12 avril 2011 - 05:10 .

[silver-crescent]

signcherie wrote...

crazy abomination-ness > naivete?

In fiction, obviously yes :innocent:

[nekhbet]

signcherie wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Alistair, with his charming wit, flying dogs and love of cheese, and I just LOVE how you can tease each other, and even in DA2 he's still doing it by refering to you as "the old ball and chain". Alistair is just to be adored.

Anders is so much more complex, snarky, b*tchy, tortured and utterly a mess when you get down to it, but ultimately loving and sweet and he makes you want to hold him and tell him everything will be okay. Anders makes my heart ache constantly with how much I love him.

They're completely different, and if you asked me to pick, I couldn't.

I'd definitely pick Anders straight up. Sure, he's a mess by the end, but he's a mature man by the time you meet him, with his own life, goals, opinions, and job. He's willing to argue with Hawke, he will break up with you if you do something that goes against his principles, and he stands up for himself.

I like Alistair, but he was just kind of floating along, living the life that had been handed to him. He is, as he says, a follower, and he never really seems to make his own decisions or choose something for himself until the various Landsmeet outcomes. The awkward Persuasion/Intimidation checks make him seem easily swayed by the Warden's opinions and willing to go along with just about anything you choose to do.

Anders felt like a whole, complex person, but Alistair's sweetness didn't stop me from feeling that he was just waiting for the Warden to "complete" him.

Each to their own, of course (and I'm courting Alistair in the game I have open right now), but I know which I'd snap up. 

crazy abomination-ness > naivete?

Great sex > virginal fumbling.

[shiba5]

nekhbet wrote...

signcherie wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Alistair, with his charming wit, flying dogs and love of cheese, and I just LOVE how you can tease each other, and even in DA2 he's still doing it by refering to you as "the old ball and chain". Alistair is just to be adored.

Anders is so much more complex, snarky, b*tchy, tortured and utterly a mess when you get down to it, but ultimately loving and sweet and he makes you want to hold him and tell him everything will be okay. Anders makes my heart ache constantly with how much I love him.

They're completely different, and if you asked me to pick, I couldn't.

I'd definitely pick Anders straight up. Sure, he's a mess by the end, but he's a mature man by the time you meet him, with his own life, goals, opinions, and job. He's willing to argue with Hawke, he will break up with you if you do something that goes against his principles, and he stands up for himself.

I like Alistair, but he was just kind of floating along, living the life that had been handed to him. He is, as he says, a follower, and he never really seems to make his own decisions or choose something for himself until the various Landsmeet outcomes. The awkward Persuasion/Intimidation checks make him seem easily swayed by the Warden's opinions and willing to go along with just about anything you choose to do.

Anders felt like a whole, complex person, but Alistair's sweetness didn't stop me from feeling that he was just waiting for the Warden to "complete" him.

Each to their own, of course (and I'm courting Alistair in the game I have open right now), but I know which I'd snap up. 

crazy abomination-ness > naivete?

Great sex > virginal fumbling.

"You know I've never done this before."

/pass

Where's that mage?   <-- This little guy is way too happy and I don't think that is a wand in his hand.

Modifié par shiba5, 12 avril 2011 - 05:15 .

[AnniLau]

nekhbet wrote...

signcherie wrote...

crazy abomination-ness > naivete?

Great sex > virginal fumbling.

Hey, there might have been virginal fumbling in the beginning, but then you also had the opportunity to train him up right! 

Modifié par AnniLau, 12 avril 2011 - 05:16 .

[Dreaming-in-Shadow]

Batteries wrote...

Right. Who the hell was saying "Can't see much past all zee blood!"?

Sebastian... I think...

[Aynslie]

thenyxie wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Alistair, with his charming wit, flying dogs and love of cheese, and I just LOVE how you can tease each other, and even in DA2 he's still doing it by refering to you as "the old ball and chain". Alistair is just to be adored.

Anders is so much more complex, snarky, b*tchy, tortured and utterly a mess when you get down to it, but ultimately loving and sweet and he makes you want to hold him and tell him everything will be okay. Anders makes my heart ache constantly with how much I love him.

They're completely different, and if you asked me to pick, I couldn't.

I'd definitely pick Anders straight up. Sure, he's a mess by the end, but he's a mature man by the time you meet him, with his own life, goals, opinions, and job. He's willing to argue with Hawke, he will break up with you if you do something that goes against his principles, and he stands up for himself.

I like Alistair, but he was just kind of floating along, living the life that had been handed to him. He is, as he says, a follower, and he never really seems to make his own decisions or choose something for himself until the various Landsmeet outcomes. The awkward Persuasion/Intimidation checks make him seem easily swayed by the Warden's opinions and willing to go along with just about anything you choose to do.

Anders felt like a whole, complex person, but Alistair's sweetness didn't stop me from feeling that he was just waiting for the Warden to "complete" him.

Each to their own, of course (and I'm courting Alistair in the game I have open right now), but I know which I'd snap up. 

Good points all. It never bothered me that Alistair was indecisive and a follower, though. His boyish charm and wit and romantic side made up for pretty much everything for me. By Act II of DA2 the first time through, everything was so dismal and I missed Alistair SO MUCH. And then I fell in love with Anders in such a completely different way.

I thought about this before also.  Who to pick if you had to Anders or Alistair, and I have to go with Alistair.  And it is because Alistair is alot less complicated than Anders.  I've had a rl relationship with someone with Bipolar...not fun...at all.  sounds romantic, you get the "my love can fix" him thoughts and nope.  The only thing that can fix em is therapy and medicine and everything is your fault.  With Anders condition I see only bad things in the future for Hawke if s/he stays with him.  Alistiar on the other hand is the keeper, the one who will always be there for you.

Now of course I have rl experience to fall back on, and I absolutely LOVE Anders in DAII, but thats my thoughts on the matter.

A similar discussion about who to date in the Justice League I went with Flash as oppose to Batman for the same reasons, despite my unnatural obsession with the Dark Knight.

Moral= stay away from fixer uppers

[SurelyForth]

AnniLau wrote...

Hey, there might have been virginal fumbling in the beginning, but then you also had the opportunity to train him up right! 

This.

However, Anders still wins because...sparklefingers.

[signcherie]

nekhbet wrote...

signcherie wrote...


crazy abomination-ness > naivete?

Great sex > virginal fumbling.

ROFL I always thought there was something sexy about corrupting an innocent... At least in fiction, doubt the real thing would live up to the hype.

At the moment I'd also prefer Anders' craziness to Alistair's innocence, although Anders is still shiny and new so that may be influencing me.

[nekhbet]

SurelyForth wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

Hey, there might have been virginal fumbling in the beginning, but then you also had the opportunity to train him up right! 

This.

However, Anders still wins because...sparklefingers.

That electricity thing!

[SidheKate]

Alistair vs. Anders - I wish we could compare them over the same time too. Alistair always seemed like he could grow up, and his cameos indicate that (if alive) he does. Drunk Al goes back with Teagan, King Al and Warden Al is a leader but kept his sense of humor. We get Anders over seven years, and Alistair over a few months.

Of course, my husband is JUST like Alistair, so I'm a little bias. But I love Anders so much!

[AnniLau]

SurelyForth wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

Hey, there might have been virginal fumbling in the beginning, but then you also had the opportunity to train him up right! 

This.

However, Anders still wins because...sparklefingers.

But Alistair is athletic...that's always nice.

[Hellosanta]

Apparently recent 1.02 patch doesn't fix the forcing Anders to side with Templars in Anders's rivalmance to work. Now I think ... it's not bugged, it's cut out from the game at last minute.

[shiba5]

nekhbet wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

AnniLau wrote...

Hey, there might have been virginal fumbling in the beginning, but then you also had the opportunity to train him up right! 

This.

However, Anders still wins because...sparklefingers.

That electricity thing!

And that kiss. I think I'll go watch it again...