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[Jean]

MorningBird wrote...

RinjiRenee wrote...
So when the sky opens up ala Sandal's prophecy, we just see:

This KILLED ME.

Thanks a lot.

Modifié par Batteries, 12 avril 2011 - 07:27 .

[shiba5]

RinjiRenee wrote...


So when the sky opens up ala Sandal's prophecy, we just see:

And a giant trollface.

edit: nice trollface!

Modifié par shiba5, 12 avril 2011 - 07:33 .

[Ryzaki]

Sialater wrote...
~hugs Carver~  
DO. NOT. WANT.

Well I kind of assume Carver doesn't leave with Hawke. He's still a templar in my games at the end of the day. And Cullen wouldn't kick him out. 

[shiba5]

Ok, we can't have that at the top of the page!

[maselphie]

AnniLau wrote...


Apparently so.

Called it. 

[nyxocity]

Sialater wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Sialater wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Sialater wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

@Sialater: I think that's why they got rid of the triangle romance options in DA2. They could be incredibly buggy. Leliana was always pulling that crap, in the play through I did where I romanced Zev, same thing happened.

Me: So I wanted to ask if you're feeling better about Marjoline.
Leliana: Come on! Tell me I'm pretty! Come on come on!
Me: No.
Leliana: Tell me I could try to charm you.
Me: This is me, resisting.
Leliana: I love you!
Me: ... WHAT? No. I KNOW I didn't pick any romance options this time! I DID NOT. I avoided them all like the plague!
Leliana: We'll talk about this again soon.
Me: Zeeeeev!
Zev: So I notice you and Leliana have gotten close...
Me: *tears out hair* There is NO. ESCAPE.
Me: *reloads*
Leliana: I do not try to charm you because our friendship should be built on trust--
Me: So you're not in love with me?
Leliana: No. But I could be if you--
Me: *runs away*

I just stopped talking to her after a while *LOL* I'm really glad they don't have those kinds of bugs in DA2.

But there wasn't really a triangle option with Zev and Al.  There was a broken romance flag which I lucked out in getting. 

There wasn't? I can't remember now. Did they just make you choose right away? What happened to you?

Ejoslin explained what I must've done at one point, but I don't remember the specifics and I can't recreate it for the life of me.  All I know is, I broke Zev.  And breaking Zev broke Al.   I think the only thing I did differently in my attempt to recreate the bug was that I didn't let Moira make out with Leliana first.

So, yes... my Chancellor Surana has an elf on the side that King Al's apparently OK with.

I wonder if something similar happened with me and I didn't realize it? Because I had one play through where towards the end, Zev started saying "Si mi amora" when I clicked on him and I had been with Alistair forever.

That's entirely possible.  He did that to Moira.  (There's a reason she's romantically indecisive in my fic.)  It didn't really occur to me there was a problem when I found that I'd gotten his romance dialog at the gate when she left him behind.

I keep wondering if there's a way to break the romances in DA2.  But I'm pretty sure Anders and Fenris would just kill each other.

*thinks* I always take Zev with me to the final battle, so I wouldn't have gotten that speech. I wish I could remember what he said before we left for the final battle. That play through was the one I RP'd the most, and it was because my character knew Zev loved her even though she was with Alistair. They had a bond beyond friendship and romance, they had an understanding of each other that she needed, but she loved Alistair with all her heart and needed his goodness to keep her from falling to the darkness inside her. Anyway... man, I should pull that game out just to see what he says at the gate.

Yeah, I can't see broken romances between Anders and Fenris turning out well. Unless it ends with a threesome.:happy:

Modifié par thenyxie, 12 avril 2011 - 07:28 .

[Inzhuna]

ipgd wrote...

OOC for a completely-stable-and-lucid-in-control-of-what-he's-doing Anders/Justice, yes, but rivalry!Anders isn't. He's just broken.

I don't expect him to be able to stand by or live with that decision but I can completely see how he could make it. He's in shock, horrified at what Justice made him do, horrified at how little control he has over Justice, and probably in a state where he feels he cannot trust his own judgment. It's that saarebas mentality where he just gives in and accepts that he's dangerous, out of control and that he does not even have the capacity to understand how much of a danger he is. He's deferring to Hawke as his "arvaarad", because while he would certainly be making a different decision, he does not trust himself.

He's probably not thinking about it the consequences of such a choice, either. I doubt he's focused on much other than trying to keep Justice down at that point.

Ooh, I really like the saarebas-arvaarad comparison. I'm with you on this, I don't think it's OOC, it just shows how completely broken Anders is by that point.

[Sialater]

thenyxie wrote...

*thinks* I always take Zev with me to the final battle, so I wouldn't have gotten that speech. I wish I could remember what he said before we left for the final battle. That play through was the one I RP'd the most, and it was because my character knew Zev loved her even though she was with Alistair. They had a bond beyond friendship and romance, they had an understanding of each other that she needed, but she loved Alistair with all her heart and needed his goodness to keep her from falling to the darkness inside her. Anyway... man, I should pull that game out just to see what he says at the gate.

Yeah, I can't see broken romances between Anders and Fenris turning out well. Unless it ends with a threesome.:happy:

Heh, that's pretty much how I thought of his and Moira's and Al's relationship. 

In an Anders/Hawke/Fenris threesome, Hawke would be too busy referreeing to have any fun. LOL

[Inzhuna]

Wait, what? The patch is out? And seems it doesn't fix any Anders issues. >_<

[nyxocity]

ipgd wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Anders siding with Templars: Seriously. Did you not HEAR the man in Awakening get angry and rail against the chantry and their treatment of mages? Did you not pay attention to his anger about templars or maybe MISS his totally lack of give a crap about the dead Templars in the Vigil after "I didn't do it"? Then he says it all AGAIN in DA2. it is not only OOC to have him fight FOR the templars, it's OOC across TWO GAMES that he's been in now. And it's REALLY OOC for an Anders possessed by JUSTICE who has been plotting to blow the tin can headed jerks up!

OOC for a completely-stable-and-lucid-in-control-of-what-he's-doing Anders/Justice, yes, but rivalry!Anders isn't. He's just broken.

I don't expect him to be able to stand by or live with that decision but I can completely see how he could make it. He's in shock, horrified at what Justice made him do, horrified at how little control he has over Justice, and probably in a state where he feels he cannot trust his own judgment. It's that saarebas mentality where he just gives in and accepts that he's dangerous, out of control and that he does not even have the capacity to understand how much of a danger he is. He's deferring to Hawke as his "arvaarad", because while he would certainly be making a different decision, he does not trust himself.

He's probably not thinking about it the consequences of such a choice, either. I doubt he's focused on much other than trying to keep Justice down at that point.

....

Please stop convincing me.

[nekhbet]

Inzhuna wrote...

ipgd wrote...

OOC for a completely-stable-and-lucid-in-control-of-what-he's-doing Anders/Justice, yes, but rivalry!Anders isn't. He's just broken.

I don't expect him to be able to stand by or live with that decision but I can completely see how he could make it. He's in shock, horrified at what Justice made him do, horrified at how little control he has over Justice, and probably in a state where he feels he cannot trust his own judgment. It's that saarebas mentality where he just gives in and accepts that he's dangerous, out of control and that he does not even have the capacity to understand how much of a danger he is. He's deferring to Hawke as his "arvaarad", because while he would certainly be making a different decision, he does not trust himself.

He's probably not thinking about it the consequences of such a choice, either. I doubt he's focused on much other than trying to keep Justice down at that point.

Ooh, I really like the saarebas-arvaarad comparison. I'm with you on this, I don't think it's OOC, it just shows how completely broken Anders is by that point.

That's how it'd go with that ending, methinks.

And Gaider trollface is epic. 

[shiba5]

thenyxie wrote...

ipgd wrote...

Lady Jess wrote...

Anders siding with Templars: Seriously. Did you not HEAR the man in Awakening get angry and rail against the chantry and their treatment of mages? Did you not pay attention to his anger about templars or maybe MISS his totally lack of give a crap about the dead Templars in the Vigil after "I didn't do it"? Then he says it all AGAIN in DA2. it is not only OOC to have him fight FOR the templars, it's OOC across TWO GAMES that he's been in now. And it's REALLY OOC for an Anders possessed by JUSTICE who has been plotting to blow the tin can headed jerks up!

OOC for a completely-stable-and-lucid-in-control-of-what-he's-doing Anders/Justice, yes, but rivalry!Anders isn't. He's just broken.

I don't expect him to be able to stand by or live with that decision but I can completely see how he could make it. He's in shock, horrified at what Justice made him do, horrified at how little control he has over Justice, and probably in a state where he feels he cannot trust his own judgment. It's that saarebas mentality where he just gives in and accepts that he's dangerous, out of control and that he does not even have the capacity to understand how much of a danger he is. He's deferring to Hawke as his "arvaarad", because while he would certainly be making a different decision, he does not trust himself.

He's probably not thinking about it the consequences of such a choice, either. I doubt he's focused on much other than trying to keep Justice down at that point.

....

Please stop convincing me.

I think I'd be more convinced if he weren't so calm in the video. I hope if they do add it back in that there's more to it.

[mellifera]

@ipgd and inzhuna- That's why I'm not strictly against the rivalry/Templar ending for Anders as much as I am against it if there isn't consequence. To me, Anders has to die in that ending, whether by his own hand or Hawke's or someone else's. It seems stupid IF not only you get to break Anders to the point where he'll defer to Hawke to that extent but ALSO get to run off all trololol and ~Anders never left your side~. In the rivalry/templar end he's extremely broken. He needs to die after all he's done and his dialogue reflects the desire, the need, to die. It just makes for a crappy ending if you push a character to that point and there are no repercussions.

[Inzhuna]

Yeah, I don't see how Anders can just go on living after that. There's nothing Hawke or anyone else can do to mend him. Even if Hawke cannot kill him he will just waste away, imo.

[shiba5]

Inzhuna wrote...

Yeah, I don't see how Anders can just go on living after that. There's nothing Hawke or anyone else can do to mend him. Even if Hawke cannot kill him he will just waste away, imo.

I would actually kill him at this point, but not stab him in the back - too impersonal.

[Jean]

That's why I think he'd just kill himself if Hawke doesn't kill him or if he doesn't die in the fighting. If he's broken enough to side with the templars and just follow Hawke because Hawke said so, I don't think that's far fetched.

[TheComfyCat]

thenyxie wrote...

Sialater wrote...


That's entirely possible.  He did that to Moira.  (There's a reason she's romantically indecisive in my fic.)  It didn't really occur to me there was a problem when I found that I'd gotten his romance dialog at the gate when she left him behind.

I keep wondering if there's a way to break the romances in DA2.  But I'm pretty sure Anders and Fenris would just kill each other.

*thinks* I always take Zev with me to the final battle, so I wouldn't have gotten that speech. I wish I could remember what he said before we left for the final battle. That play through was the one I RP'd the most, and it was because my character knew Zev loved her even though she was with Alistair. They had a bond beyond friendship and romance, they had an understanding of each other that she needed, but she loved Alistair with all her heart and needed his goodness to keep her from falling to the darkness inside her. Anyway... man, I should pull that game out just to see what he says at the gate.

Yeah, I can't see broken romances between Anders and Fenris turning out well. Unless it ends with a threesome.:happy:

Zevran's dialogues at the gate are really broken. If you're in a romance, he gives his "friendly" speech, and if he's friendly, he gives his "warm" speech. Ejoslin's Zev mod fixes it so that you actually get the right one. (It's nice to be able to tell Zev you love him ;D).

And I agree that with Anders and Fenris, broken romances would be a bit of a cluster ****. Of course, I also really can't see Anders/Fenris slash working in any realistic way.

(Edited for failed quotes and grammar heh)

Modifié par senorfuzzylips, 12 avril 2011 - 07:52 .

[Inzhuna]

@shiba5 I agree, Hawke was so cold in that scene. There should have been a romance-specific scene. Or maybe there is, we just don't see it. It appears we'll now have to wait till 1.03 for any Anders fixes.

[ipgd]

shiba5 wrote...

I think I'd be more convinced if he weren't so calm in the video. I hope if they do add it back in that there's more to it.

He basically begs you to kill him in the missing post-explosion rivalry dialogue. He isn't exactly flipping out and having a great big psychotic tantrum, but you can tell he's not all there.

yukidama wrote...

@ipgd and inzhuna- That's why I'm not strictly against the rivalry/Templar ending for Anders as much as I am against it if there isn't consequence. To me, Anders has to die in that ending, whether by his own hand or Hawke's or someone else's. It seems stupid IF not only you get to break Anders to the point where he'll defer to Hawke to that extent but ALSO get to run off all trololol and ~Anders never left your side~. In the rivalry/templar end he's extremely broken. He needs to die after all he's done and his dialogue reflects the desire, the need, to die. It just makes for a crappy ending if you push a character to that point and there are no repercussions.

Yeah. He really needs to either kill himself or be executed in that ending. Even the incredibly depressing mental state Anders would need to not immediately self-destruct aside, there's no way Hawke's political opponents would let him/her touch the Viscount's seat with Anders alive. The both of them would be assassinated pretty much immediately.

Modifié par ipgd, 12 avril 2011 - 07:53 .

[nyxocity]

Sialater wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

*thinks* I always take Zev with me to the final battle, so I wouldn't have gotten that speech. I wish I could remember what he said before we left for the final battle. That play through was the one I RP'd the most, and it was because my character knew Zev loved her even though she was with Alistair. They had a bond beyond friendship and romance, they had an understanding of each other that she needed, but she loved Alistair with all her heart and needed his goodness to keep her from falling to the darkness inside her. Anyway... man, I should pull that game out just to see what he says at the gate.

Yeah, I can't see broken romances between Anders and Fenris turning out well. Unless it ends with a threesome.:happy:

Heh, that's pretty much how I thought of his and Moira's and Al's relationship. 

In an Anders/Hawke/Fenris threesome, Hawke would be too busy referreeing to have any fun. LOL

That's cool that we had the same kind of playthrough/backstory.

DirectingRefereeing could be half the fun though *G*

[Ace Attorney]

DA2 goes casual
http://fc09.devianta...a46-d3du02x.jpg

[Inzhuna]

You guys know of any good Anders rivalmance fics?

edit: Re: the casual clothes pic
Fenris in my head would totally be wearing black t-shirts and listening to Linkin Park.
'Craaawling iiin my skiiin! These woouuunds, they wiill not heeeaaal!!!'

Modifié par Inzhuna, 12 avril 2011 - 07:59 .

[shiba5]

ipgd wrote...

shiba5 wrote...

I think I'd be more convinced if he weren't so calm in the video. I hope if they do add it back in that there's more to it.

He basically begs you to kill him in the missing post-explosion rivalry dialogue. He isn't exactly flipping out and having a great big psychotic tantrum, but you can tell he's not all there.

Ah ok, I've only seen the bit at the Gallows where he's all kissy face with Hawke. Now, I think that scene would be perfect if Hawke is sliding a dagger in him at the same time, but I don't get that impression.

[nyxocity]

senorfuzzylips wrote...

thenyxie wrote...

Sialater wrote...


That's entirely possible.  He did that to Moira.  (There's a reason she's romantically indecisive in my fic.)  It didn't really occur to me there was a problem when I found that I'd gotten his romance dialog at the gate when she left him behind.

I keep wondering if there's a way to break the romances in DA2.  But I'm pretty sure Anders and Fenris would just kill each other.

*thinks* I always take Zev with me to the final battle, so I wouldn't have gotten that speech. I wish I could remember what he said before we left for the final battle. That play through was the one I RP'd the most, and it was because my character knew Zev loved her even though she was with Alistair. They had a bond beyond friendship and romance, they had an understanding of each other that she needed, but she loved Alistair with all her heart and needed his goodness to keep her from falling to the darkness inside her. Anyway... man, I should pull that game out just to see what he says at the gate.

Yeah, I can't see broken romances between Anders and Fenris turning out well. Unless it ends with a threesome.:happy:

Zevran's dialogues at the gate are really broken. If you're in a romance, he gives his "friendly" speech, and if he's friendly, he gives his "warm" speech. Ejoslin's Zev mod fixes it so that you actually get the right one. (It's nice to be able to tell Zev you love him ;D).

And I agree that with Anders and Fenris, broken romances would be a bit of a cluster ****. Of course, I also really can't see Anders/Fenris slash working in any realistic way.

(Edited for failed quotes and grammar heh)

I swear I got to see his romance speech once. Maybe it wasn't bugged on the console version? Or maybe I saw it on Youtube? I don't remember being annoyed about missing it at any rate, and I'd think I would be. Weird.

Seriously. Look how they are right after you sleep with Fenris. Can't imagine it getting any worse. But I always have room in my head for characters hate-banging *G*

[shiba5]

T3hAnubis wrote...

DA2 goes casual
http://fc09.devianta...a46-d3du02x.jpg

Someone needs to tell Anders that grunge went out in the 90's.