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[GailRana]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...



The Circles are
necessary, even past the Harrowing the threat of demons and blood magic
is ever present. I do think allowing them to have a bit of fun every now
and then won't hurt them though. Like a visit home for good behavior.
You can't get rid of the dangers that come with being a mage but you can
make their lives in the tower easier while still keeping your pimp hand
strong.

.... *is speechless* 

sassperella wrote...
sorry pages back...

This sentiment just goes to show how the 'mages shouldn't be treated as people' rubs off from the game.

Yes they need a certain amount of policing, but dammit mages are human beings, they may have a talent, a dangerous one at that but treating them like naughty children or less than human is not the way to go.

Why should they only get to see their family for good behaviour? Why should the chantry preach they're evil and breed fear into the populous? Why shouldn't they be allowed basic human rights?
Police mages by all means, they can be dangerous but the circles as they stand are wrong and what you have written is barely even a step up from that.

This. All of this. All of this times 10.

Teach mages Hogwarts style? Yes. Enlist mages to be a force when evil mages need to be delt with? yes. The circle and teaching fear and shame and treating them as less then human? no.


*EDIT FOR TOP*


i needed some happy Hawke/Anders

Modifié par GailRana, 14 avril 2011 - 01:38 .

[DragonRacer]

That Tranquil Anders art... that's gotta be the most depressing thing I have ever seen. EVER.

Modifié par DragonRacer, 14 avril 2011 - 01:36 .

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

sassperella wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...



The Circles are necessary, even past the Harrowing the threat of demons and blood magic is ever present. I do think allowing them to have a bit of fun every now and then won't hurt them though. Like a visit home for good behavior. You can't get rid of the dangers that come with being a mage but you can make their lives in the tower easier while still keeping your pimp hand strong.

sorry pages back...

This sentiment just goes to show how the 'mages shouldn't be treated as people' rubs off from the game.

Yes they need a certain amount of policing, but dammit mages are human beings, they may have a talent, a dangerous one at that but treating them like naughty children or less than human is not the way to go.

Why should they only get to see their family for good behaviour? Why should the chantry preach they're evil and breed fear into the populous? Why shouldn't they be allowed basic human rights?
Police mages by all means, they can be dangerous but the circles as they stand are wrong and what you have written is barely even a step up from that.

Because in their reality to underestimate a mage is a luxury you cannot afford.

[GailRana]

DragonRacer wrote...

That Tranquil Anders art... that's gotta be the most depressing thing I have ever seen. EVER.

i know... i would have cried but then i'd have to explain to my family in the rest of the room why a pic on the computer is making me cry!

[DragonRacer]

GailRana wrote...

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...



The Circles are
necessary, even past the Harrowing the threat of demons and blood magic
is ever present. I do think allowing them to have a bit of fun every now
and then won't hurt them though. Like a visit home for good behavior.
You can't get rid of the dangers that come with being a mage but you can
make their lives in the tower easier while still keeping your pimp hand
strong.

.... *is speechless* 

sassperella wrote...
sorry pages back...

This sentiment just goes to show how the 'mages shouldn't be treated as people' rubs off from the game.

Yes they need a certain amount of policing, but dammit mages are human beings, they may have a talent, a dangerous one at that but treating them like naughty children or less than human is not the way to go.

Why should they only get to see their family for good behaviour? Why should the chantry preach they're evil and breed fear into the populous? Why shouldn't they be allowed basic human rights?
Police mages by all means, they can be dangerous but the circles as they stand are wrong and what you have written is barely even a step up from that.

This. All of this. All of this times 10.

Teach mages Hogwarts style? Yes. Enlist mages to be a force when evil mages need to be delt with? yes. The circle and teaching fear and shame and treating them as less then human? no.

You know what would be awesome? Besides just re-creating the Circles as universities or boarding schools Hogwarts-style... is to also set up either entire mage communities or mage-friendly communities. Seriously. Mages can then have families, be productive... maybe get hired out for their talents (healers are obvious... maybe force mages could aid in construction work, etc). Have a police force of non-abusive, sane templars to keep the shady mages in check.

I think it's totally viable. Why the Chantry would be opposed to something like that is beyond me. Maker, my day job is soul-sucking enough, I volunteer to run the first mage community of its kind!

Modifié par DragonRacer, 14 avril 2011 - 01:43 .

[Dunizel]

Lady Bibble wrote...

fabikitsune.deviantart.com/art/DA2-No-turning-back-page-5-204798400

Be truthful, most of you did want to do this..

Rival or Frined, he totally deserved it, I would have done it for sure!
The we can talk, or dance among the debris of the chantry, or whatever else...but he deserves it whatever happens later.

Batteries wrote...

www.youtube.com/watch

I love this person for uploading all these.

Yeah, I stalk that youtube channel now and then, there are lots of things I didn't ever hear in the game...even if they are implemented and working I mean xD

Modifié par Dunizel, 14 avril 2011 - 01:42 .

[GailRana]

Lady Bibble wrote...

fabikitsune.deviantart.com/art/DA2-No-turning-back-page-5-204798400

Be truthful, most of you did want to do this..

see, that was the option i needed at that point. and then one later on to kiss before they ran off together as wanted apostate <3

[Kawamura]

leggywillow wrote...

Kawamura wrote...
I've had a lot of emotions I would rather not have. I'm also happiest when I'm fairly calm and I get more work done.

Life is suffering. Suffering comes from attatchment to things that do not last. The end of suffering is breaking those chains which cause us so much pain.

So, Tranquility sounds curious to me. And not so bad. I would get a lot more work done *laughs* Which would be nice. It just sounds interesting.

But then you wouldn't want to hang around on this thread with us!  No more depravity!

Yeah.

Hrm. I guess I wouldn't mind. I'd be contently doing work. Too bad you can't go Tranquil for a little while then get out of it. I mean, it'd be like a vacation.

[GailRana]

DragonRacer wrote...
You know what would be awesome? Besides just re-creating the Circles as universities or boarding schools Hogwarts-style... is to also set up either entire mage communities or mage-friendly communities. Seriously. Mages can then have families, be productive... maybe get hired out for their talents (healers are obvious... maybe force mages could aid in construction work, etc). Have a police force of non-abusive, sane templars to keep the shady mages in check.

I think it's totally viable. Why the Chantry would be opposed to something like that is beyond me. maker, my day job is soul-sucking enough, I volunteer to run the first mage community of its kind!

I want to come and live in the mage community!

[CatOfEvilGenius]

Kawamura wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

Nice!? I think tranquility is quite possibly the most disturbing thing about the DA universe D:

I think forced traqnuility is wrong.

Maybe it helps that I'm almost a Buddhist? That might be why it doesn't sound all that bad? I mean, outside of forcingp people. That's bad.

Having no emotions, no desires, no dreams isn't all that bad?

I agree with Bethany's opinion. That's a fate worse than death.

I've had a lot of emotions I would rather not have. I'm also happiest when I'm fairly calm and I get more work done.

Life is suffering. Suffering comes from attatchment to things that do not last. The end of suffering is breaking those chains which cause us so much pain.

So, Tranquility sounds curious to me. And not so bad. I would get a lot more work done *laughs* Which would be nice. It just sounds interesting.

The Tranquil don't mind it, but they aren't capable of being bothered by anything.  At most, they feel "uncomfortable", like when abominations try to kill them in the Ferelden Circle.  I doubt they feel joy or love.  I often think I could do without emotional pain, anger, depression, but if that's the price for joy and love, I'll deal.  I wouldn't deny Tranquility to those that want it, and fully understand what it entails, but forcing it on someone, ugh.  I think abusive templars should be made Tranquil, as an example to the others.  Death's too good for them.  They couldn't runecraft nor enchant, but I'm sure they could catalog and sort and mop all day.  I know!  They could teach the Intro to Ethics course to new recruits.  "And this is the penalty for raping the novices." *points to forehead*

Modifié par CatOfEvilGenius, 14 avril 2011 - 01:45 .

[thebrute7]

GailRana wrote...

Lady Bibble wrote...

fabikitsune.deviantart.com/art/DA2-No-turning-back-page-5-204798400

Be truthful, most of you did want to do this..

see, that was the option i needed at that point. and then one later on to kiss before they ran off together as wanted apostate <3

Agreed.  I wanted to hit him and then kiss and make up.  Oh well.  I finally finished my Andersy chapter and got it up... unfortunately FF says I have 9 chapters up but I can only see 8   ugh.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

If only Thedas's mages lived in a world where corruption only came in the form of greed and a desire for power. Perhaps it could be as lovely as the world Rowlings built.

[GailRana]

CatOfEvilGenius wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

Nice!? I think tranquility is quite possibly the most disturbing thing about the DA universe D:

I think forced traqnuility is wrong.

Maybe it helps that I'm almost a Buddhist? That might be why it doesn't sound all that bad? I mean, outside of forcingp people. That's bad.

Having no emotions, no desires, no dreams isn't all that bad?

I agree with Bethany's opinion. That's a fate worse than death.

I've had a lot of emotions I would rather not have. I'm also happiest when I'm fairly calm and I get more work done.

Life is suffering. Suffering comes from attatchment to things that do not last. The end of suffering is breaking those chains which cause us so much pain.

So, Tranquility sounds curious to me. And not so bad. I would get a lot more work done *laughs* Which would be nice. It just sounds interesting.

The Tranquil don't mind it, but they aren't capable of being bothered by anything.  At most, they feel "uncomfortable", like when abominations try to kill them in the Ferelden Circle.  I doubt they feel joy or love.  I often think I could do without emotional pain, anger, depression, but if that's the price for joy and love, I'll deal.  I wouldn't deny Tranquility to those that want it, and fully understand what it entials, but forcing it on someone, ugh.  I think abusive templars should be made Tranquil, as an example to the others.  Death's too good for them.  They couldn't runecraft nor enchant, but I'm sure they could catalog and sort and mop all day.  I know!  They could teach the Intro to Ethics course to new recruits.  "And this is the penalty for raping the novices." *points to forehead*

Ugh, i would rather be dead then tranquil. life isn't life withouth emotions.

Though i was thinking the other day that if an apostate mage were to brand the tranqual sign onto their forhead and pretend to be tranquil when around people, that would be apretty good disguise.

[thebrute7]

The Tranquil don't mind it, but they aren't capable of being bothered by anything.  At most, they feel "uncomfortable", like when abominations try to kill them in the Ferelden Circle.  I doubt they feel joy or love.  I often think I could do without emotional pain, anger, depression, but if that's the price for joy and love, I'll deal.  I wouldn't deny Tranquility to those that want it, and fully understand what it entails, but forcing it on someone, ugh.  I think abusive templars should be made Tranquil, as an example to the others.  Death's too good for them.  They couldn't runecraft nor enchant, but I'm sure they could catalog and sort and mop all day.  I know!  They could teach the Intro to Ethics course to new recruits.  "And this is the penalty for raping the novices." *points to forehead*

Yes please.  I want to point to a tranquil templar and say that.  I HATE THE TEMPLARS!!!

Okay I have it out of my system.

[TripLight]

DragonRacer wrote...

You know what would be awesome? Besides just re-creating the Circles as universities or boarding schools Hogwarts-style... is to also set up either entire mage communities or mage-friendly communities. Seriously. Mages can then have families, be productive... maybe get hired out for their talents (healers are obvious... maybe force mages could aid in construction work, etc). Have a police force of non-abusive, sane templars to keep the shady mages in check.

I think it's totally viable. Why the Chantry would be opposed to something like that is beyond me. Maker, my day job is soul-sucking enough, I volunteer to run the first mage community of its kind!

They wouldn't be in charge is why, they want to keep a rein on Mages, they want the power over them.

Modifié par TripLight, 14 avril 2011 - 01:49 .

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

thebrute7 wrote...

GailRana wrote...

Lady Bibble wrote...

fabikitsune.deviantart.com/art/DA2-No-turning-back-page-5-204798400

Be truthful, most of you did want to do this..

see, that was the option i needed at that point. and then one later on to kiss before they ran off together as wanted apostate <3

Agreed.  I wanted to hit him and then kiss and make up.  Oh well.  I finally finished my Andersy chapter and got it up... unfortunately FF says I have 9 chapters up but I can only see 8   ugh.

It takes a little bit I've found before chapters show.

[Trophonius]

Ryzaki wrote...

Trophonius wrote...

Utterly disappointed that the new patch coming up has nothing that fixes the Anders rivalmance bugs. What gives? He says some really profound stuff on that path.

I don't think a majority of the devs were aware of it. Luka wasn't. Some of the posters from the Anders crisis thread did inform him about it though. 

I see. Thanks for clearing that up. I guess we'll have to wait a bit longer for the next patch.

I'll just leave this here.

[GailRana]

thebrute7 wrote...

The Tranquil don't mind it, but they aren't capable of being bothered by anything.  At most, they feel "uncomfortable", like when abominations try to kill them in the Ferelden Circle.  I doubt they feel joy or love.  I often think I could do without emotional pain, anger, depression, but if that's the price for joy and love, I'll deal.  I wouldn't deny Tranquility to those that want it, and fully understand what it entails, but forcing it on someone, ugh.  I think abusive templars should be made Tranquil, as an example to the others.  Death's too good for them.  They couldn't runecraft nor enchant, but I'm sure they could catalog and sort and mop all day.  I know!  They could teach the Intro to Ethics course to new recruits.  "And this is the penalty for raping the novices." *points to forehead*

Yes please.  I want to point to a tranquil templar and say that.  I HATE THE TEMPLARS!!!

Okay I have it out of my system.

My sister pointed out the other day that even Ezio (Assassin's creed) hates templars.  It made me

seriously though, don't think i would even wish tranquility on evil templars (plus can non-mages be made tranquil?)

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Considering the templars are the rival faction to the assassinos it's not surprising Ezio hates them.XD

[thebrute7]

MelfinaofOutlawStar wrote...

thebrute7 wrote...

Agreed.  I wanted to hit him and then kiss and make up.  Oh well.  I finally finished my Andersy chapter and got it up... unfortunately FF says I have 9 chapters up but I can only see 8   ugh.

It takes a little bit I've found before chapters show.

Odd, it's usually been instant for me.  It is working now anyway.  Here's a shameless link, Shameless Plug. I need feedback on my stuff. Not getting feedback makes me sad.   P.S. the link is straight to chapter 9 which is pretty much all Anders.  It'll make more snese if you read the rest however.  Ch7 and 8 have Andersy bits as well.

[thebrute7]

GailRana wrote...

thebrute7 wrote...

The Tranquil don't mind it, but they aren't capable of being bothered by anything.  At most, they feel "uncomfortable", like when abominations try to kill them in the Ferelden Circle.  I doubt they feel joy or love.  I often think I could do without emotional pain, anger, depression, but if that's the price for joy and love, I'll deal.  I wouldn't deny Tranquility to those that want it, and fully understand what it entails, but forcing it on someone, ugh.  I think abusive templars should be made Tranquil, as an example to the others.  Death's too good for them.  They couldn't runecraft nor enchant, but I'm sure they could catalog and sort and mop all day.  I know!  They could teach the Intro to Ethics course to new recruits.  "And this is the penalty for raping the novices." *points to forehead*

Yes please.  I want to point to a tranquil templar and say that.  I HATE THE TEMPLARS!!!

Okay I have it out of my system.

My sister pointed out the other day that even Ezio (Assassin's creed) hates templars.  It made me

seriously though, don't think i would even wish tranquility on evil templars (plus can non-mages be made tranquil?)

I suspect they can.  Tranquility doesn't actually have anything to do with magic itself, it just cuts the person off from the fade, and thus their emotions.  And personally I think Tranquility is too good for rapists, but I can't think of anything worse to do to them.

[Dunizel]

GailRana wrote...
My sister pointed out the other day that even Ezio (Assassin's creed) hates templars.  It made me

seriously though, don't think i would even wish tranquility on evil templars (plus can non-mages be made tranquil?)

I think so, yes. If I am not mistaken the personal assistant of Meredith wasn't a mage, right? Everyone has a connection to the Fade, I suppose you can severe it from non-mages too...

[DeaHamlet]

Dunizel wrote...

GailRana wrote...
My sister pointed out the other day that even Ezio (Assassin's creed) hates templars.  It made me

seriously though, don't think i would even wish tranquility on evil templars (plus can non-mages be made tranquil?)

I think so, yes. If I am not mistaken the personal assistant of Meredith wasn't a mage, right? Everyone has a connection to the Fade, I suppose you can severe it from non-mages too...

Her assistant was a mage who was made tranquil.
*grumbles some angry words about Meredith and using tranquils as assistants*

[Kawamura]

GailRana wrote...

CatOfEvilGenius wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Kawamura wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

Nice!? I think tranquility is quite possibly the most disturbing thing about the DA universe D:

I think forced traqnuility is wrong.

Maybe it helps that I'm almost a Buddhist? That might be why it doesn't sound all that bad? I mean, outside of forcingp people. That's bad.

Having no emotions, no desires, no dreams isn't all that bad?

I agree with Bethany's opinion. That's a fate worse than death.

I've had a lot of emotions I would rather not have. I'm also happiest when I'm fairly calm and I get more work done.

Life is suffering. Suffering comes from attatchment to things that do not last. The end of suffering is breaking those chains which cause us so much pain.

So, Tranquility sounds curious to me. And not so bad. I would get a lot more work done *laughs* Which would be nice. It just sounds interesting.

The Tranquil don't mind it, but they aren't capable of being bothered by anything.  At most, they feel "uncomfortable", like when abominations try to kill them in the Ferelden Circle.  I doubt they feel joy or love.  I often think I could do without emotional pain, anger, depression, but if that's the price for joy and love, I'll deal.  I wouldn't deny Tranquility to those that want it, and fully understand what it entials, but forcing it on someone, ugh.  I think abusive templars should be made Tranquil, as an example to the others.  Death's too good for them.  They couldn't runecraft nor enchant, but I'm sure they could catalog and sort and mop all day.  I know!  They could teach the Intro to Ethics course to new recruits.  "And this is the penalty for raping the novices." *points to forehead*

Ugh, i would rather be dead then tranquil. life isn't life withouth emotions.

Though i was thinking the other day that if an apostate mage were to brand the tranqual sign onto their forhead and pretend to be tranquil when around people, that would be apretty good disguise.

What would be so bad?

I mean. I dunno. It just sounds -- tranquil. Calm.

It wouldn't work like they show it, mind, since so much of what humans are is our emotions and we have little inthe way of "rational" thought. But the idea is nice. Going through life, level, being always still on the inside.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

I bet Tranquil make great assistants. There right when the ol' wrist sundial hits the top of the hour.