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[Halinu]

Preemptive Happy Page 1000, guys!  I have to go to work, so I thought I would congratulate everyone ahead of time. :happy:

And top! 

Modifié par Halinu, 15 avril 2011 - 12:56 .

[LastFadingSmile]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

They made it pretty much impossible NOT to want to be a mage in DA2.
Why? Because the storyline would be so much better if you were.
I mean, they give you this wicked awesome abilities, the Robes of the Champion are sweet, and they pretty much say in the guide that it's the best class in DA2. Kinda like rogue was in Origins, for those who didn't feel like having the slowest damn gameplay ever. I tried to be a two handed warrior in Origins. The enemy would get four hits on me before I even got one.

Totally agree. I tended towards rogues in Origins (or Dual Weild warriors, but there frankly wasn't much difference), because they at least felt fairly responsive. Mages were fun, but I'm chronically impatient/sloppy so friendly fire was a pretty big frustration factor to me. I just want to rain down fire carte blanch, okay? I'm magic, I'll avoid hitting my companions....somehow. Sure...it could happen.

But DA2, I'm a total sucker for the mages. The story feels a lot more personal as a mage; much as I dig Bethany, I don't have a strong enough connection to her to be all "raarr me smash". And i love the mage armor. Warrior gear is okay, but rogue stuff, not so much.

[YamiSnuffles]

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Dual Wield Warrior > Rogues. Just saying. :innocent:

*Drools* Momentum + Blessing of the Fade + Power of Blood = Lawl

God yes, this. I loved my DW Warrior Warden. She was my canon Warden. Being able to weild two full sized swords was the best thing ever. I was so sad when I couldn't DW as a warrior any more in 2. Luckily DA2 has much faster 2H warriors than Origins did.

That said... I haven't made a single mage Hawke.

[Purposeof-Flight]

Threeparts wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

You know it's funny. I've never played a Mage in Origins. I loved them as companions sure, and I controled them enough of the time that I liked the playstyle. I just, you know, never wanted to be a mage.

Whatever posessed my to make my first [and canon] Hawke a mage is beyond me, but Maker am I glad I did.

Ever since, I've wanted to go back and do an Origins/Awakening playthrough with an Amell, just because. :3

I've played a couple of mages part way through DA:O before abandoning them to go play another rogue - they were fun, like you say, but it was never really my class. Wasn't until DA2 came out that I really wanted to finish a run so I can have Cait Amell and Amelia Hawke, the mage cousins with strangely parallel lives.
Yeah, yeah, could use an import generator, but where's the fun in that? So much easier to get a proper feel for the character by doing a full run. Besides, this gives me a reason to replay Awakening and Witch Hunt. 

Witch Hunt vastly vastly disappointed me.
I mean, I wwent out and bought the Ultimate Edition, totally stoked to do witch hunt, and at the end of the DLC I'm like, "WTF IS THIS?"

<_<

[Mistress Tasharra]

Threeparts wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

You know it's funny. I've never played a Mage in Origins. I loved them as companions sure, and I controled them enough of the time that I liked the playstyle. I just, you know, never wanted to be a mage.

Whatever posessed my to make my first [and canon] Hawke a mage is beyond me, but Maker am I glad I did.

Ever since, I've wanted to go back and do an Origins/Awakening playthrough with an Amell, just because. :3

I've played a couple of mages part way through DA:O before abandoning them to go play another rogue - they were fun, like you say, but it was never really my class. Wasn't until DA2 came out that I really wanted to finish a run so I can have Cait Amell and Amelia Hawke, the mage cousins with strangely parallel lives.
Yeah, yeah, could use an import generator, but where's the fun in that? So much easier to get a proper feel for the character by doing a full run. Besides, this gives me a reason to replay Awakening and Witch Hunt. 

Exactly! I still haven't done an Amell playthrough, but I plan too sometime soon. I roleplay all my characters and keep little notes on them. Using a generator just isn't any fun. So many missed oppertunites to really get in touch with my split personalites characters.

YamiSnuffles wrote...

God
yes, this. I loved my DW Warrior Warden. She was my canon Warden. Being
able to weild two full sized swords was the best thing ever. I was so
sad when I couldn't DW as a warrior any more in 2. Luckily DA2 has much
faster 2H warriors than Origins did.

That said... I haven't made a single mage Hawke. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/bandit.png[/smilie]

Yeah, it was my favourite tree for Warriors in Origins, and my canon Warden was also one.

Come to think of it, I think the reason my first Hawke ended up a mage is because I was so angry that I couldn't have another badass, TWF warrior wrecking things, and after playing the demo I hated how melee rogue gameplay felt. XD

Modifié par Mistress Tasharra, 15 avril 2011 - 01:00 .

[Purposeof-Flight]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Dual Wield Warrior > Rogues. Just saying. :innocent:

*Drools* Momentum + Blessing of the Fade + Power of Blood = Lawl

God yes, this. I loved my DW Warrior Warden. She was my canon Warden. Being able to weild two full sized swords was the best thing ever. I was so sad when I couldn't DW as a warrior any more in 2. Luckily DA2 has much faster 2H warriors than Origins did.

That said... I haven't made a single mage Hawke.

I never thought of doing a DW Warrior.
But I can completely agree that 2H Warriors in DA2 ROCKS MY SOCKS.
Rogue is actually my LEAST favorite class in this game.

[AquilaChrysaetos86]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

Kolotosa wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Edit:
Hmm, I seem to be the only one here who's not so fond of Oghren and Justice.

Nope, me as well.

My last Awakening playthrough, when we met with the Queen and Oghren declared he was going to become a Warden, I said no and Conscripted Anders. Oghren was jealous and pissy...and then he went away, and it was glorious. I told Velanna to take a hike too, just 'cause. My character selection screen for the final battle didn't really leave much to debate over.

"uuhhhhh....Sigrun, defend the whole keep by yourself, okay bye!" *skips away with boys*

LMFAO.
I love Oghren, just because he's so loud and drunk and just doesn't give a ****.
Just like my love for Jack (in ME2), loud and angry and just doesn't give a ****. And wants to fight things. A lot. I am weak to her charms.

Plus Oghren had some funny ass dialogue in Origins. Seriously, like me laughing on the floor rolling around hysterically funny. And his banter with Anders? Equally funny.

Nothing to do with the lack of a shirt then?  I've not actually played ME2 myself, I'll reserve judgement!

Oh, I find Oghren hilariously funny, it's just that's all he is. His attitude to other things annoys me. Hence small doses. It has nothing to do with not being able to complete his companion quest in Awakening, nope.

[Purposeof-Flight]

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

Kolotosa wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Edit:
Hmm, I seem to be the only one here who's not so fond of Oghren and Justice.

Nope, me as well.

My last Awakening playthrough, when we met with the Queen and Oghren declared he was going to become a Warden, I said no and Conscripted Anders. Oghren was jealous and pissy...and then he went away, and it was glorious. I told Velanna to take a hike too, just 'cause. My character selection screen for the final battle didn't really leave much to debate over.

"uuhhhhh....Sigrun, defend the whole keep by yourself, okay bye!" *skips away with boys*

LMFAO.
I love Oghren, just because he's so loud and drunk and just doesn't give a ****.
Just like my love for Jack (in ME2), loud and angry and just doesn't give a ****. And wants to fight things. A lot. I am weak to her charms.

Plus Oghren had some funny ass dialogue in Origins. Seriously, like me laughing on the floor rolling around hysterically funny. And his banter with Anders? Equally funny.

Nothing to do with the lack of a shirt then?  I've not actually played ME2 myself, I'll reserve judgement!

Oh, I find Oghren hilariously funny, it's just that's all he is. His attitude to other things annoys me. Hence small doses. It has nothing to do with not being able to complete his companion quest in Awakening, nope.

Actually, no.
I hardly notice she's topless, because of all her damn tattoos.
Plus, if I were to go lesboShep on anyone in there, it would be Tali'Zorah.
Awwwyeah.

I completely forgot what his companion quest was....what was it?

[LastFadingSmile]

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

I've played a couple of mages part way through DA:O before abandoning them to go play another rogue - they were fun, like you say, but it was never really my class. Wasn't until DA2 came out that I really wanted to finish a run so I can have Cait Amell and Amelia Hawke, the mage cousins with strangely parallel lives.
Yeah, yeah, could use an import generator, but where's the fun in that? So much easier to get a proper feel for the character by doing a full run. Besides, this gives me a reason to replay Awakening and Witch Hunt. 

Exactly! I still haven't done an Amell playthrough, but I plan too sometime soon. I roleplay all my characters and keep little notes on them. Using a generator just isn't any fun. So many missed oppertunites to really get in touch with my split personalites characters.

The save game generator is bugged with mage creations anyway, unless it's been fixed since I last used it. I tried to generate an Amell import, and it seems like no matter what, it flags any mage creations as DWARVES of all things. Elthina kept going on about how a dwarf had saved Ferelden...

...sure was nice of that stupid dwarf to free the Circle I guess. <_<

[purplecookie]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

I sometimes feel bad for the other Awakening companions because I just took whomever I liked most to the last battle. So, while I didn't need Anders and he would have survived at the Keep if I left him, there was no way I was going to be without him in the end. I rotated out most everyone else throughout the game, but I always had Anders with me. Thus, Valenna disappeared in the end because there was no way I was going to swap out Anders.

Yeah I was the same, I always had Anders in my party, even when my warden was a mage she wouldn't go anywhere without her trusty mage sidekick. She was absolutely dedicated to Alistair though and while she had a lot of love for Anders it was definitely just the friendship kind (while me as a player was like "Argh why can't we romance him!), so that friendship was just that, no source of frustration there. Velanna was pretty much placed in the Vigil's Keep kiddy corner and left to entertain herself, never took her anywhere, just found her character grating. Other than Anders, I would swap around having Sigrun (too cute! And I liked her banter with Anders), Justice, Nathaniel (on the games I did recruit him of course!) and very occasionally Oghren.

[Mistress Tasharra]

Kolotosa wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

I've played a couple of mages part way through DA:O before abandoning them to go play another rogue - they were fun, like you say, but it was never really my class. Wasn't until DA2 came out that I really wanted to finish a run so I can have Cait Amell and Amelia Hawke, the mage cousins with strangely parallel lives.
Yeah, yeah, could use an import generator, but where's the fun in that? So much easier to get a proper feel for the character by doing a full run. Besides, this gives me a reason to replay Awakening and Witch Hunt. 

Exactly! I still haven't done an Amell playthrough, but I plan too sometime soon. I roleplay all my characters and keep little notes on them. Using a generator just isn't any fun. So many missed oppertunites to really get in touch with my split personalites characters.

The save game generator is bugged with mage creations anyway, unless it's been fixed since I last used it. I tried to generate an Amell import, and it seems like no matter what, it flags any mage creations as DWARVES of all things. Elthina kept going on about how a dwarf had saved Ferelden...

...sure was nice of that stupid dwarf to free the Circle I guess. <_<

Hahaha.

Obviouslly it was Dagna.

[Threeparts]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

They made it pretty much impossible NOT to want to be a mage in DA2.
Why? Because the storyline would be so much better if you were.
I mean, they give you this wicked awesome abilities, the Robes of the Champion are sweet, and they pretty much say in the guide that it's the best class in DA2. Kinda like rogue was in Origins, for those who didn't feel like having the slowest damn gameplay ever. I tried to be a two handed warrior in Origins. The enemy would get four hits on me before I even got one.

*raises hand* Three complete games, haven't finished DA2 as a mage yet. They're more fun than in Origins, sure, but I don't think it's necessary to play one to fully enjoy the game.
There's something fun in having a character with no magical ability getting involved in the politics of the city. You've got your mage sister and two potential mage love interests to give you a reason to fight for their side, even knowing that as a normal person you could just walk away from the problem unharmed.
Both ways have plenty of drama, I just like that I can get a different-but-still-good sort than being an apostate and making a name for yourself.

That, and I haven't seen any robes in DA2 that I actually like. At least the mage champion armor doesn't have that stupid rag skirt thing that the rogue armor gets. <_<

[Mistress Tasharra]

After my current playthrough (with my canon mage Hawke... again. (I got really angry during Act II and just said "**** it". Rushed to the end only doing Varric/Anders/Aveline quests and Plot Quests just to get it over with. Now I'm doing it right)) I plan on making a "Rogue with a Heart of Gold".

I think he'll be very fun to play in contrast to my Snark!Mage. Helpful!Rogue will probably end up romancing Anders too, just because I can't say no.

Eventually I want to try doing a F!Hawke Aggressive!Warrior, but I don't really like F!Hawke's voice.

[AquilaChrysaetos86]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

Kolotosa wrote...

AquilaChrysaetos86 wrote...

Edit:
Hmm, I seem to be the only one here who's not so fond of Oghren and Justice.

Nope, me as well.

My last Awakening playthrough, when we met with the Queen and Oghren declared he was going to become a Warden, I said no and Conscripted Anders. Oghren was jealous and pissy...and then he went away, and it was glorious. I told Velanna to take a hike too, just 'cause. My character selection screen for the final battle didn't really leave much to debate over.

"uuhhhhh....Sigrun, defend the whole keep by yourself, okay bye!" *skips away with boys*

LMFAO.
I love Oghren, just because he's so loud and drunk and just doesn't give a ****.
Just like my love for Jack (in ME2), loud and angry and just doesn't give a ****. And wants to fight things. A lot. I am weak to her charms.

Plus Oghren had some funny ass dialogue in Origins. Seriously, like me laughing on the floor rolling around hysterically funny. And his banter with Anders? Equally funny.

Nothing to do with the lack of a shirt then?  I've not actually played ME2 myself, I'll reserve judgement!

Oh, I find Oghren hilariously funny, it's just that's all he is. His attitude to other things annoys me. Hence small doses. It has nothing to do with not being able to complete his companion quest in Awakening, nope.

Actually, no.
I hardly notice she's topless, because of all her damn tattoos.
Plus, if I were to go lesboShep on anyone in there, it would be Tali'Zorah.
Awwwyeah.

I completely forgot what his companion quest was....what was it?

Lolz, same here actually. This thread just felt it was lacking in innuendo after the peener discussion earlier.
Who wouldn't go lesboShep for Tali?

Erm, it's something to do with Felsi and his kid or whatnot. I think you have to persuade him to not be a deadbeat dad from what I recall. Wonder how that worked out.


I played an archer in DA:O and I absolutely loved it! I suspect this makes me odd, but oh well. For DA2 I've played all 3 classes and I can honestly say I miss being able to backstab and jump out of the way of things. I'm nothing if not consistent. Plus I love the champion armour for rogues.

Edited to add: Oh yeah, and Bethany pushes my 'protective big sister' buttons, so I feel more emotionally connected to the story with her there.

Modifié par AquilaChrysaetos86, 15 avril 2011 - 01:11 .

[SurelyForth]

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Dual Wield Warrior > Rogues. Just saying. :innocent:

*Drools* Momentum + Blessing of the Fade + Power of Blood = Lawl

God yes, this. I loved my DW Warrior Warden. She was my canon Warden. Being able to weild two full sized swords was the best thing ever. I was so sad when I couldn't DW as a warrior any more in 2. Luckily DA2 has much faster 2H warriors than Origins did.

That said... I haven't made a single mage Hawke.

*high fives fellow DW Warrior buddies* I even made Alistair one, if only because the only thing that makes a hot guy hotter is two big, ****-off swords

Modifié par SurelyForth, 15 avril 2011 - 01:13 .

[LastFadingSmile]

I started doing an aggressive Lady Hawke and I ditched it. Male aggressive Hawke I guess I can buy as a direct, forceful jerk, and he has the bulk to back it up. She just sounds like a colossal argumentative ****, to me. Like the kind of person who suffers from a chronic case of Gets-Punched-In-The-Face-Everywhere-She-Goes.

[Threeparts]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

Witch Hunt vastly vastly disappointed me.
I mean, I wwent out and bought the Ultimate Edition, totally stoked to do witch hunt, and at the end of the DLC I'm like, "WTF IS THIS?"

<_<

The actual story was pretty crap, yeah, but I loved the sidekicks and being able to go through the Circle library. That it was Morrigan I was looking for didn't interest me in the least, but the extra bits of info and roleplaying that could be wrung from it were lovely.

[Mistress Tasharra]

SurelyForth wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Dual Wield Warrior > Rogues. Just saying. :innocent:

*Drools* Momentum + Blessing of the Fade + Power of Blood = Lawl

God yes, this. I loved my DW Warrior Warden. She was my canon Warden. Being able to weild two full sized swords was the best thing ever. I was so sad when I couldn't DW as a warrior any more in 2. Luckily DA2 has much faster 2H warriors than Origins did.

That said... I haven't made a single mage Hawke.

*high fives fellow DW Warrior buddies* I even made Alistair one, if only because the only that makes a hot guy hotter, is two big, ****-off swords

I... Oh Maker.

Why is it I can think of my Warden in a perfectly, non-perverted way. But someone says they made Alistair dual wield swords and the first place my mind goes is a very, very dirty place.

[SurelyForth]

Threeparts wrote...

*raises hand* Three complete games, haven't finished DA2 as a mage yet. They're more fun than in Origins, sure, but I don't think it's necessary to play one to fully enjoy the game.

There's something fun in having a character with no magical ability getting involved in the politics of the city. You've got your mage sister and two potential mage love interests to give you a reason to fight for their side, even knowing that as a normal person you could just walk away from the problem unharmed.

Both ways have plenty of drama, I just like that I can get a different-but-still-good sort than being an apostate and making a name for yourself.

That, and I haven't seen any robes in DA2 that I actually like. At least the mage champion armor doesn't have that stupid rag skirt thing that the rogue armor gets. <_<

There you go again, saying exactly what I want to say.

I have a mage going in DA2, but I'm not that interested in her. The only thing she's given me to work with is that she'll probably end up with Fenris or Merrill.

[YamiSnuffles]

Threeparts wrote...

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

They made it pretty much impossible NOT to want to be a mage in DA2.
Why? Because the storyline would be so much better if you were.
I mean, they give you this wicked awesome abilities, the Robes of the Champion are sweet, and they pretty much say in the guide that it's the best class in DA2. Kinda like rogue was in Origins, for those who didn't feel like having the slowest damn gameplay ever. I tried to be a two handed warrior in Origins. The enemy would get four hits on me before I even got one.

*raises hand* Three complete games, haven't finished DA2 as a mage yet. They're more fun than in Origins, sure, but I don't think it's necessary to play one to fully enjoy the game.
There's something fun in having a character with no magical ability getting involved in the politics of the city. You've got your mage sister and two potential mage love interests to give you a reason to fight for their side, even knowing that as a normal person you could just walk away from the problem unharmed.
Both ways have plenty of drama, I just like that I can get a different-but-still-good sort than being an apostate and making a name for yourself.

That, and I haven't seen any robes in DA2 that I actually like. At least the mage champion armor doesn't have that stupid rag skirt thing that the rogue armor gets. <_<

Yeah, I haven't even made a mage yet in DA2. This is partly because I've replayed my canon Warrior Hawke a few times. However, while I think playing as a mage is cool, I think it's just as easy to get pulled into everything as a non-mage. My manHawke rogue is super protective of his little sister. My canon 2H was really driven to fight for mages because of Bethany and her father. Then she met Anders. Any prospect of a normal life went out the windows then.

Plus, when I'm not a mage, I don't have to deal with the whole, "Hey, why are these Templars retarded and not realize I'm a mage?" Again, not that there is anything wrong with playing mage, but I hardly find it a necessity to get drawn in.

[Purposeof-Flight]

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Dual Wield Warrior > Rogues. Just saying. :innocent:

*Drools* Momentum + Blessing of the Fade + Power of Blood = Lawl

God yes, this. I loved my DW Warrior Warden. She was my canon Warden. Being able to weild two full sized swords was the best thing ever. I was so sad when I couldn't DW as a warrior any more in 2. Luckily DA2 has much faster 2H warriors than Origins did.

That said... I haven't made a single mage Hawke.

*high fives fellow DW Warrior buddies* I even made Alistair one, if only because the only that makes a hot guy hotter, is two big, ****-off swords

I... Oh Maker.

Why is it I can think of my Warden in a perfectly, non-perverted way. But someone says they made Alistair dual wield swords and the first place my mind goes is a very, very dirty place.

I'm having Alistair withdrawals. I wish I could handle the slow ass gameplay of Origins again.
I mean seriously, I heard someone say "magister" in DA2 and was like, "Alistair? Where?" -stares hopefully at the screen-

[YamiSnuffles]

SurelyForth wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Dual Wield Warrior > Rogues. Just saying. :innocent:

*Drools* Momentum + Blessing of the Fade + Power of Blood = Lawl

God yes, this. I loved my DW Warrior Warden. She was my canon Warden. Being able to weild two full sized swords was the best thing ever. I was so sad when I couldn't DW as a warrior any more in 2. Luckily DA2 has much faster 2H warriors than Origins did.

That said... I haven't made a single mage Hawke.

*high fives fellow DW Warrior buddies* I even made Alistair one, if only because the only thing that makes a hot guy hotter is two big, ****-off swords

Hahaha, that picture is so epic. I never even thought of making Alistair DW. Hmmm...

[Mistress Tasharra]

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

SurelyForth wrote...

YamiSnuffles wrote...

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Dual Wield Warrior > Rogues. Just saying. :innocent:

*Drools* Momentum + Blessing of the Fade + Power of Blood = Lawl

God yes, this. I loved my DW Warrior Warden. She was my canon Warden. Being able to weild two full sized swords was the best thing ever. I was so sad when I couldn't DW as a warrior any more in 2. Luckily DA2 has much faster 2H warriors than Origins did.

That said... I haven't made a single mage Hawke.

*high fives fellow DW Warrior buddies* I even made Alistair one, if only because the only that makes a hot guy hotter, is two big, ****-off swords

I... Oh Maker.

Why is it I can think of my Warden in a perfectly, non-perverted way. But someone says they made Alistair dual wield swords and the first place my mind goes is a very, very dirty place.

I'm having Alistair withdrawals. I wish I could handle the slow ass gameplay of Origins again.
I mean seriously, I heard someone say "magister" in DA2 and was like, "Alistair? Where?" -stares hopefully at the screen-

Awwww. *Comforts*

Just for you!

[AquilaChrysaetos86]

SurelyForth wrote...

Threeparts wrote...

*raises hand* Three complete games, haven't finished DA2 as a mage yet. They're more fun than in Origins, sure, but I don't think it's necessary to play one to fully enjoy the game.

There's something fun in having a character with no magical ability getting involved in the politics of the city. You've got your mage sister and two potential mage love interests to give you a reason to fight for their side, even knowing that as a normal person you could just walk away from the problem unharmed.

Both ways have plenty of drama, I just like that I can get a different-but-still-good sort than being an apostate and making a name for yourself.

That, and I haven't seen any robes in DA2 that I actually like. At least the mage champion armor doesn't have that stupid rag skirt thing that the rogue armor gets. <_<

There you go again, saying exactly what I want to say.

I have a mage going in DA2, but I'm not that interested in her. The only thing she's given me to work with is that she'll probably end up with Fenris or Merrill.

Yes, these are my thoughts on this as well.

I've only actually rolled mages for the romances I'm not all that into (Fenris and Sebastian).

[Purposeof-Flight]

Mistress Tasharra wrote...

Purposeof-Flight wrote...

I'm having Alistair withdrawals. I wish I could handle the slow ass gameplay of Origins again.
I mean seriously, I heard someone say "magister" in DA2 and was like, "Alistair? Where?" -stares hopefully at the screen-

Awwww. *Comforts*

Just for you!

That is some sexy sexy armor he's wearing there.