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#351
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VoodooWare wrote...
Also, how exactly do I check the plot summary after I already started the game? Command Console? How?


I think if anyone knows how to do this it would be very useful (I actually mentioned it several pages back but it got buried), especially for figuring out which flags are changing and what they're changing to. Also as mentiioned knowing if the expansion of DLCs have been used might be helpful, too.

I think there was a post several pages back where someone said they checked plot flags with the cheat console?

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Greed0104 wrote...

VoodooWare wrote...

Ok guys, 14 pages. Bioware isn't helping us, but I think we should probably do a better job at helping each other.
14 pages and I still don't know at least a few spots in the game where one could expect the save to start messing flags up.Also, how exactly do I check the plot summary after I already started the game? Command Console? How?
I'll speak for myself and say that I had no problems up until now, I still haven't done the DR Expedition but the only mentions of past events have been ok (Hero of Ferelden killing the ArchDemon, and new king).One thing that I should mention is that I have the exact same DAO plot summary as Greed0104.


If you have the same one I have a question, and anybody else that got this with an import feel free to answer. At the begining, did flemeth act surprised about King Cailans death? She mentions him, and you respond with he is dead, didn't seem right since it was mentioned in the cinematic. This happens during the fall of lothering , the warden and allies have already left lothering by the time this happens, meaning flemeth is already very aware of the kings death.


Are you talking about her "Your king will not miss you" line?

I took it as a "your king is dead, therefore he will not miss you".

But I'll be sure to play that sequence again just to be sure..

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For anyone who have the console unlcoked and are willing to try here are two commands, don't think they'll help judging by the descriptions (wiki) but it's worth trying

runscript zz_app_debug ~ Opens the approval debug window to setting approval rates and romance flags

runscript zz_dae_debug ~ Modify your party, Act/Area/Plot jumps, and Map debugging

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As mentioned do not explain details in this thread nor comparrisons between events from DA2. This forum area does not allow spoilers unless the threat actually states that it may contain them which this one does not. If wish to discuss events and comparrisons from DA2 then make another thread one that contains the words possible spoilers in title.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

Tbh if going to start comparing where in the game you get changes noticed make another thread because this one will all of a sudden become a spoiler thread. DO NOT post spoilers in here where people are honestly coming to seek help and nothing in title gives away the fact people posting things that happen within the game.


I don't see how minor spoilers could hurt anyone. Heck, a simple mention of in what act do the problems occur would be enough.

I just think that in 15 pages of confusion and "BIOWAAAAAAARE NOOOOOO!!!" a nice dose of concrete facts would be cool and helpful. 

But if the majority thinks that even a slightest mention of DA2 events is out of line, I'm cool with that too.
 

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I started a game earlier today but didn't check the plot summary to be sure. I juste started a new one just to be sure and everything looks fine in the "Plot Summary". In game, I'm not far enough to have heard anything.

I did DAO (with Warden's Keep, Stone Prisoner, Return to Ostagar) + Awakening.

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VoodooWare wrote...

Greed0104 wrote...

VoodooWare wrote...

Ok guys, 14 pages. Bioware isn't helping us, but I think we should probably do a better job at helping each other.
14 pages and I still don't know at least a few spots in the game where one could expect the save to start messing flags up.Also, how exactly do I check the plot summary after I already started the game? Command Console? How?
I'll speak for myself and say that I had no problems up until now, I still haven't done the DR Expedition but the only mentions of past events have been ok (Hero of Ferelden killing the ArchDemon, and new king).One thing that I should mention is that I have the exact same DAO plot summary as Greed0104.


If you have the same one I have a question, and anybody else that got this with an import feel free to answer. At the begining, did flemeth act surprised about King Cailans death? She mentions him, and you respond with he is dead, didn't seem right since it was mentioned in the cinematic. This happens during the fall of lothering , the warden and allies have already left lothering by the time this happens, meaning flemeth is already very aware of the kings death.


Are you talking about her "Your king will not miss you" line?

I took it as a "your king is dead, therefore he will not miss you".

But I'll be sure to play that sequence again just to be sure..


Yes, I'm talking about that line.

I just tried it on my girlfriends PC, she has the same content as me for origins. Using her save as an import, the king was brought up after running through it as a male Rogue, this is what I'm playing with my save. She claimed she wasn't asked about the King, so I tried with her save and pc as a female Mage, which is what she is playing. King wasn't even mentioned.

Who knows at this point, I'm going to give it a run as a female Mage on my pc with my saves.

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Warden from Origins imports fine, but when I try to upload his story from Witch Hunt (dark ritual and through the eluvian together), it says Origins was not completed and holes must be filled in; most glaring hole that is filled in is that now he died slaying the archdemon. I turned off the game when I saw that and tried my other file.

Warden imported to Awakening says Origins not finished, so...sigh.

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After the 1 year distance the narrator says "The Warden slayed the archdemon" in a prideful tone. It does not say if the Warden died or not. In my DA:O playthrough I did the ritual and slayed the archdemon meaning i lived. Does the narrator say otherwise if the warden died or am i safe?

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Greed0104 wrote...

Yes, I'm talking about that line.

I just tried it on my girlfriends PC, she has the same content as me for origins. Using her save as an import, the king was brought up after running through it as a male Rogue, this is what I'm playing with my save. She claimed she wasn't asked about the King, so I tried with her save and pc as a female Mage, which is what she is playing. King wasn't even mentioned.

Who knows at this point, I'm going to give it a run as a female Mage on my pc with my saves.


Ok, I though I was going crazy.

I'm playing as a Male Mage and actually didn't remember any mention of the King.

I watched a video of that scene on youtube, and my interpretation of that line is that she knew that he was dead.

Glad to see my memory is not THAT bad.

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Minor or major it doesn't matter which, people have no idea that plot or acts or details from the game they haven't got far into or started yet may come in to read see what the issue is and this thread has no warning of such things being discussed. It's not fair on them and its not hard to make another thread to talk and compare in-game events.

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Greed0104 wrote...

Furthermore, bugs happen people.


Look, I work in IT as a programmer and know for a fact that every product you release, will have bugs, having bugs is not the problem, how you address these bugs on the other hand could mean the success or failure of the product.

I've been on both sides of the coin, we've released products that had major bugs that we were not able to fix and the result was failure, on the other hand we had products that had bugs that we addressed and fixed, eventually such products went on to become successful.

My main point is this is all about customer service, if your customer base is not happy, you will lose in the end.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

Minor or major it doesn't matter which, people have no idea that plot or acts or details from the game they haven't got far into or started yet may come in to read see what the issue is and this thread has no warning of such things being discussed. It's not fair on them and its not hard to make another thread to talk and compare in-game events.


I'm a guy who hates spoilers, I was on complete media blackout for this game, didn't even play the demo.

Even so, I'd rather have info about a pretty huge problem that negates dozens of hours of DAO and be spoiled than stay in the dark and have an extremely unpleasant surprise.

Still, I won't argue anymore about this.. 

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After the first 1 year jump the narrator says "The warden slayed the archdemon and conquered the blight!" It does not state wheither I died or not. In my DA:O playthrough i preformed the dark ritual and slayed the arch demon so I definantly did not die. Does the narrator say otherwise if he did die or am I safe?

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What urks me is that it didnt even mention my finale in Witch Hunt, which I was hoping would matter in some way in DA:2

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NervousCandy wrote...

After the first 1 year jump the narrator says "The warden slayed the archdemon and conquered the blight!" It does not state wheither I died or not. In my DA:O playthrough i preformed the dark ritual and slayed the arch demon so I definantly did not die. Does the narrator say otherwise if he did die or am I safe?

I would check your codex, but a familiar face gave me details shortly after the point you're at [and they were completely botched].

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andocrack wrote...

NervousCandy wrote...

After the first 1 year jump the narrator says "The warden slayed the archdemon and conquered the blight!" It does not state wheither I died or not. In my DA:O playthrough i preformed the dark ritual and slayed the arch demon so I definantly did not die. Does the narrator say otherwise if he did die or am I safe?

I would check your codex, but a familiar face gave me details shortly after the point you're at [and they were completely botched].

Thanks for the tip, I just checked. One thing that concerns me however is that the codex page does not mention me going into the portal with Morrigan. This is odd as I imported from Witch Hunt. Could this be part of the glitch or does that factir simply not matter enough to be put in the codex or a variable in the DA2 story?

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VoodooWare wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Minor or major it doesn't matter which, people have no idea that plot or acts or details from the game they haven't got far into or started yet may come in to read see what the issue is and this thread has no warning of such things being discussed. It's not fair on them and its not hard to make another thread to talk and compare in-game events.


I'm a guy who hates spoilers, I was on complete media blackout for this game, didn't even play the demo.

Even so, I'd rather have info about a pretty huge problem that negates dozens of hours of DAO and be spoiled than stay in the dark and have an extremely unpleasant surprise.

Still, I won't argue anymore about this.. 


There is nothing stopping you doing so but doing so in a thread which warns people. These are the forums rules for a reason. You may not even find a solution in which case would have left spoilers all over place for people that will see it against their will because there was no warning. Noone is stopping you discussing the problem comparing notes from events during the game but do so in a thread that tells people of such.

Don't make me out to be being mean or harsh or feel need to justify putting spoilers in this thread because its no hardship for someone to make a new thread one that tells people your discussing events in DA2 to find a solution to the problem, none is stopping you IF you find one from informing people where it is and how to fix if you come up with such but as it stands right now you have no solutions only spoilers so please make another thread.

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NervousCandy wrote...

andocrack wrote...

NervousCandy wrote...

After the first 1 year jump the narrator says "The warden slayed the archdemon and conquered the blight!" It does not state wheither I died or not. In my DA:O playthrough i preformed the dark ritual and slayed the arch demon so I definantly did not die. Does the narrator say otherwise if he did die or am I safe?

I would check your codex, but a familiar face gave me details shortly after the point you're at [and they were completely botched].

Thanks for the tip, I just checked. The import is safe. One thing that concerns me however is that the codex page does not mention me going into the portal with Morrigan. This is odd as I imported from Witch Hunt. Could this be part of the glitch or does that factir simply not matter enough to be put in the codex or a variable in the DA2 story?



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This flaw *is* happening to most of everyone I know who got the game, and it happens a ways into the game, making a few people think that they have not got the bug... then it develops.

I will be leaving my copy in the shrink-wrap. It goes on the pile of shame...

What a waste.

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Stoomkal wrote...

This flaw *is* happening to most of everyone I know who got the game, and it happens a ways into the game, making a few people think that they have not got the bug... then it develops.

I will be leaving my copy in the shrink-wrap. It goes on the pile of shame...

What a waste.


They would HAVE to patch this eventually though, no?

They patched Witch Hunt for a MUCH SMALLER problem than this.

They certainly know that a HUGE number of people will not play this the way it is.


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Once again for people

http://social.biowar...14/polls/16524/

Please vote on this poll if you are encountering this STORY-BREAKING BUG.

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Seriously?! They released the game even though they knew there was an import bug? At least with Witch Hunt it was a surprise, which they really should have caught anyway... but this is just...irritating. The save import idea is fascinating and fun but so far has not lived up to the hype. At the very least I think it should work correctly.

Ima MAD PANDA! ger

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I'm too hesitant to play more of the game because of this. I don't know what that Greed guy's problem is, but everyone I know elsewhere has encountered this problem as well, noting how the game can't even properly check its own flags. I play Bioware games for the story first and the combat second, so this is a game killer for me. I really wish at least ONE dev would respond. They responded on the auto attack issue, so why not this? Just leaving us in the dark is not a good a sign. If they intend to handle this bug the same they have handled the Awakening bugs (in other words, not do anything), then this is my last Bioware game. No wonder the original lead designer quit. There's no excuse for the presence of such a game altering bug to be present in the final version of the game.

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The Hero fought and killed hte Archdemon, making the ultimate sacrifice and dying to save Ferelden. After ending the Blight, the Hero of Ferelden was wed to King Alistair and crowned queen of Ferelden. She and the king now rule the country together.

This slight oversight is BEGGING for a zombie queen lampshade. :P