131 Antworten in diesem Thema

[elecmanexe001]

whats so terrible about pressing a button, you feel like your actually attacking rather then sitting around waiting for your character to decide to do something. While you wait for abilities to recharge you can tap a different button, it's really not all that different. You can still pause the game and issue orders. They did forget or were unable to implement the auto-attack on at least X-box, Im not sure about PC, it's an option they do plan to fix though. Personally I never cared to put my controller down while my characters do everything for me, I like the new faster paced combat.

[Swisspease]

Planescape is super linear and more than half plays in the same city.

Wait which game are we talking about?

Grumble, grumble. Gonna go back and play Planescape and check out that hot Annah since they don't have any babes in DA2.

Sarcasm.

[Kritanakom]

Can I have your game?

[Husudu]

Well sir have you tried to play on nightmare or hard they say thats were playing tactically will have a bigger impact. And yeh DAO was so hard considering you could solo nightmare with AW right??

[Kritanakom]

vortexdr wrote...
... besides me working in the industry doesn't have **** to do with the topic that bioware pretty much let down all their long term fans.

...then why mention it?

[Jeesus_Lizzard]

I picked up DA2 at midnight and have played non stop for 7 hours and can honestly say its a huge step back from DAO. Combat feels like a squad based Dynasty Warriors knockoff and all you do is run around Kirkwall with bland cookie cutter party members. Maybe it gets better maybe 7 hours isn't long enough to get a firm introduction to DA2, but hey I could be wrong.

[WidowMaker9394]

That's why I'm supporting the devs; for all the improvements they've made.

[vortexdr]

No but you can get it anywhere free of charge....

Please don't compare this to planescape perhaps one of the best rpg's ever made...it's not even in the same world.

Quoting a friend since he said it well:

Despite the juvenile story, cliche characters, cookie-cutting fantasy lore (all of which were in DA:O) and clunky combat (which has worsened to something which looks like a game by KOEI) I had an enjoyable first hour of gameplay. Everything has simplified, up to the point where I'd just select random skills for my party characters as I don't think I'll have to switch between them to win battles.

It's sad really, that this 30-hour (wow Rolling Eyes) clichéfest is the best modern RPG's have to offer. But until the Witcher 2 pops out it's probably the only thing around...

[SamimaS]

You gotta love the fanboys!

Firstly, why are there some bum boys who say anyone with an opinion differing from there own has a pirated game. Online preordering can normally get you the game a couple of days early.

Now onto this game, which taints the Dragon Age name.

Menus: In the first game they were great, they were in keeping with the game a medieval-esque game with swords and shields. They looked like an unfolded scroll, they were simple and they were easy on the eye. In DA2 however, it looks like the game developer spilt some Lucozade on his sketch just before going into a meeting, I mean why is it all bright orange, it nas no relation to the game. instead, the orange menus are just taken straight from Mass Effect 2.

Loot/speech boxes: Again these are in a hideous orange rectangle above bodies/people. Why? The first game again was much more in keeping. In the last game is there was a sparkle there was loot, in this game theres the sparkle and a massive orange rectangle, hideous.

Skill/Talent Trees: Hideous, they just look like a jumbled mess, the first game again was so much better. The first game just had a nice list that was pleasing on the eye and also was much more understandable.

Graphics: The characters look exactly the same, whilst some areas look better/some worse than in The first.

This game is also much shorther than the first, has thousands less spoken dialogue even though the main character wasn't voiced in the first game. Has options missing that not only made the first game great such as auto attack but were on numerous occasions said to be in. The main character now has a voice which some people will like and others will hate. I personally hate his voice and therefore I feel no connection to the character Im playing.

Why is The Stig from Top Gear so loved. Because hes inanimate, he never speaks, he is what your imagination wants him to be. Whilst Hawke sounds like the X Factor voice over man therefore I create a hate for Hawke.

Also, the bioware bum boys who use reviews to back themselves up. Reviews will always be biased towards favourable, because all review sites rely on money from the people making games. Who pays for the game adverts in their magazine or their website, publishers. The last time an honest review was made saw Gamespot fire a guy for giving an honest review.

[nelly21]

Tooly McToolbag says...



(Insert haughty voice)



What has happened to BioWare? I recently played pirated copy and upon doing so, I was most discouraged. I was unable to keep up with the speed of the combat which indubitably means that it has been dumbed down (have to insert key phrases). Furthermore, while I have no experience in game production myself, my 30+ years of gaming have made me an obvious expert at making successful games and it is quite obvious that this will not be a successful game. Not that it should be mind you as high sales numbers invariably mean that the game has been made for the lowest common denominator (remember key phrases) and would not be worthy of my time.



In summation, I believe that this game is utter garbage based on my playthrough.  My palette will only be reserved for the truly mature fare, such as the Witcher. In the mean time, I will make the entirely reasonable request of having BioWare refund my pre-order forthwith. What's that? They aren't selling me the game? Oh you poor simpleton! When we intellectuals make our demands, we get them without question!



Sincerely,



Tooly McToolbag

RIP RPG: 1970-2011

Bearbeitet von nelly21, 08 März 2011 - 01:09 .

[Skilled Seeker]

vortexdr wrote...

Oh I didn't I was unfortunatly stupid enough to buy it before really reading about it since well one would assume the 2nd part in a series would somehow resemble the first.....

Since then I have returned the game and in the future will make sure to leech

You can't return PC games once you've opened them liar.

[Lord_Darkmoon]

WidowMaker9394 wrote...

That's why I'm supporting the devs; for all the improvements they've made.

What improvements?

All I see are cut or reduced features. I don't think removing features from a game is improving it.

[Purple People Eater]

vortexdr wrote...

No but you can get it anywhere free of charge....

Please don't compare this to planescape perhaps one of the best rpg's ever made...it's not even in the same world.

Quoting a friend since he said it well:

Despite the juvenile story, cliche characters, cookie-cutting fantasy lore (all of which were in DA:O) and clunky combat (which has worsened to something which looks like a game by KOEI) I had an enjoyable first hour of gameplay. Everything has simplified, up to the point where I'd just select random skills for my party characters as I don't think I'll have to switch between them to win battles.

It's sad really, that this 30-hour (wow Rolling Eyes) clichéfest is the best modern RPG's have to offer. But until the Witcher 2 pops out it's probably the only thing around...

Oh, and he mentioned Witcher 2. He is now an UBER TROLL!!!!

Bearbeitet von Purple People Eater, 08 März 2011 - 01:08 .

[vortexdr]

Kritanakom wrote...

vortexdr wrote...
... besides me working in the industry doesn't have **** to do with the topic that bioware pretty much let down all their long term fans.

...then why mention it?

honestly...not sure... prob due to being mad and feeling let down. I know how the industry works paper pushers on top see the dollar symbols rising and thats how great franchises go bust.

See fallout 1+2 vs the new ones

And once again dont mention planescape one of the best rpg's ever made....first of all it didnt have the juvenille story that was both in DA and DA2.

[Lord_Darkmoon]

nelly21 wrote...

Tooly McToolbag says...



(Insert haughty voice)



What has happened to BioWare? I recently played the demo and upon doing so, I was most discouraged. I was unable to keep up with the speed of the combat which indubitably means that it has been dumbed down (have to insert key phrases). Furthermore, while I have no experience in game production myself, my 30+ years of gaming have made me an obvious expert at making successful games and it is quite obvious that this will not be a successful game. Not that it should be mind you as high sales numbers invariably mean that the game has been made for the lowest common denominator (remember key phrases) and would not be worthy of my time.



In summation, I believe that this game is utter garbage based on my 30 minute demo playthrough. I shall be canceling my pre-order post haste and surely, I will be only one of the millions of betrayed RPG fans who will be doing the same. My palette will only be reserved for the truly mature fare, such as the Witcher. In the mean time, I will make the entirely reasonable request of having BioWare refund my pre-order forthwith. What's that? They aren't selling me the game? Oh you poor simpleton! When we intellectuals make our demands, we get them without question!



Sincerely,



Tooly McToolbag

RIP RPG: 1970-2011

So, in summary you are insulting every gamer at age 30+? Wow, how mature. Grow up!

And what is the puropse of a demo? To DEMOnstrate the game so that people can decide whether to buy it or not?

[AkiKishi]

Skilled Seeker wrote...
You can't return PC games once you've opened them liar.

Really I do it all the time. I tell them it's a buggy piece of crap and to send it back where it came from. If they argue I just threaten then with bad publicity and point out how much more than £20 that will cost them.

[Tietj]

BobSmith101 wrote...

vortexdr wrote...

Oh I didn't I was unfortunatly stupid enough to buy it before really reading about it since well one would assume the 2nd part in a series would somehow resemble the first.....

Since then I have returned the game and in the future will make sure to leech

All those pre-order incentives make sense now eh ?

I don't understand you, BobSmith101.  The OP and people like him who sign up just to complain are just letting off steam.  It's annoying, particularly when most people complaining are PC elitists who think that their enjoyment of Origins makes them sound smart, but whatever.  But you've been on this board complaining about the game for weeks.  If I assumed I wasn't going to like a game that wasn't released yet, the last thing I would do is participate in an extended online discussion of said game.  What's the point?  Don't you have anything better to do?

[Xewaka]

Tietj wrote...
I don't understand you, BobSmith101.  The OP and people like him who sign up just to complain are just letting off steam.  It's annoying, particularly when most people complaining are PC elitists who think that their enjoyment of Origins makes them sound smart, but whatever.  But you've been on this board complaining about the game for weeks.  If I assumed I wasn't going to like a game that wasn't released yet, the last thing I would do is participate in an extended online discussion of said game.  What's the point?  Don't you have anything better to do?

If everybody in a discussion is parroting the goods and glossing the bads, it is not a discussion. A discussion requires opposite views.

[Swisspease]

Oh Tooly how we missed you.

[nelly21]

Lord_Darkmoon wrote...

So, in summary you are insulting every gamer at age 30+? Wow, how mature. Grow up!

And what is the puropse of a demo? To DEMOnstrate the game so that people can decide whether to buy it or not?

Lol. If you think the post is about insulting 30 year olds (I'm 28, so I'll be joining those ranks soon) then you're an idiot.

I'm insulting the pc elitist. I know, satire probably isn't your thing. Particularly when you're in the ranks being mocked.

[AkiKishi]

Tietj wrote...
I don't understand you, BobSmith101.  The OP and people like him who sign up just to complain are just letting off steam.  It's annoying, particularly when most people complaining are PC elitists who think that their enjoyment of Origins makes them sound smart, but whatever.  But you've been on this board complaining about the game for weeks.  If I assumed I wasn't going to like a game that wasn't released yet, the last thing I would do is participate in an extended online discussion of said game.  What's the point?  Don't you have anything better to do?

I've been here since the demo was released and constantly been told it will all be fixed in the main game. Clearly not the case.
I had every intention of buying the game at first, that slipped the more I got to know about it. Now I'm just going to rent it.
Your obviously missing the bigger picture , but whatever I really don't care about your opinion anyway. I'm still fuming at being misled by the developers, don't like , tough luck.

[vortexdr]

Tietj wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

vortexdr wrote...

Oh I didn't I was unfortunatly stupid enough to buy it before really reading about it since well one would assume the 2nd part in a series would somehow resemble the first.....

Since then I have returned the game and in the future will make sure to leech

All those pre-order incentives make sense now eh ?

I don't understand you, BobSmith101.  The OP and people like him who sign up just to complain are just letting off steam.  It's annoying, particularly when most people complaining are PC elitists who think that their enjoyment of Origins makes them sound smart, but whatever.  But you've been on this board complaining about the game for weeks.  If I assumed I wasn't going to like a game that wasn't released yet, the last thing I would do is participate in an extended online discussion of said game.  What's the point?  Don't you have anything better to do?

Sigh listen I dont give a **** if you enjoy button mashing...okay??? But why not give me the option to play the friggin game like the classic baldurs gates or even DA:O???? Huh??/ Why the hell remove every little speck of depht the game used to have???

Where the hell are my options?? Why force me? Why can't I play the game like so many great bioware games before this huge step backwards????

And yeah you are damm right im mad... One of the last great developers of CRPG's has gone downhill and started producing adominations like this.....

[BelgusTradis]

It's really strange that vortexdr and SamimaS joined 2011-03-08.
Another thing that's odd... they don't have games registered...
I have a question for you both : Do you really played DA2?
Because all can read is blah blah blah...

[Tietj]

Xewaka wrote...

Tietj wrote...
I don't understand you, BobSmith101.  The OP and people like him who sign up just to complain are just letting off steam.  It's annoying, particularly when most people complaining are PC elitists who think that their enjoyment of Origins makes them sound smart, but whatever.  But you've been on this board complaining about the game for weeks.  If I assumed I wasn't going to like a game that wasn't released yet, the last thing I would do is participate in an extended online discussion of said game.  What's the point?  Don't you have anything better to do?

If everybody in a discussion is parroting the goods and glossing the bads, it is not a discussion. A discussion requires opposite views.

Yes, but this isn't Hardball with Chris Matthews, it's an online forum for a video game company.   I wasn't talking about people who have legitimate concerns about the game; that's fine.  Even though I'm going to get the game and probably like it, I'm not 100% happy with the direction Bioware went either, and I'm happy to discuss this.  But I've noticed him on here criticizing EVERY ASPECT of the game, on multiple threads, for a long time now.  I'm just wondering what kind of person stays on an internet gaming forum for weeks doing nothing but complaining and taking snide potshots at the developers.

[vortexdr]

Yeah and who stuck a ****** up your ass?? Are you really this slow??

obviously i have played DA2 since I am aware of how big of a letdown it is compared to what I was expecting...****ing **** die in fire