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[Dragoonlordz]

Henk76 wrote...

from my experience of the demo, DA2 can be played in exactly the same pause-and-issue-commands tactical way as DA:O and other predecessors. I really don't understand all this nerd rage.

No it can't they screwed up auto attack, now it's button mashing until they fix it.

[Naltharial]

vortexdr wrote...

See but thats the thing it's not just me....Bioware are pretty much alienating all their long term customers that helped build this company into what it is today...

Hi. Long term customer here. All the way from BG / KoTOR / whatnot. I support the changes.

You know why? Because this isn't BG or KoTOR. If I'd want to play those games, I'd go and play those games again. I still do sometimes.

[Tleining]

vortexdr wrote...

See but thats the thing it's not just me....Bioware are pretty much alienating all their long term customers that helped build this company into what it is today...

And honestly I don't belive the devs really think taking options away is a good thing.... I blame EA and how their business model kills franchises

okay, first of all, what do you see as "all their long term customers"? Is there a club you have to join? From what i've seen, there are 20-30 people here on the Forum who don't like the changes. On the other hand you have 20-30 people who do like it. So the way i see it, it's just personal preference. Some people like the changes, others don't. But instead of just saying "i don't like it" and leave it at that, you have to call the changes dumbing down. Accuse people who like it of being "fanboys" and console kiddies.

Second: yes, ea is the devil and responsible for all that is bad in the world. Valid point

[Lord_Darkmoon]

Wow, this forum and especially this thread is so full of insults... is this the regular way of conversation here?

[Lord_Darkmoon]

Sorry, double post...

Modifié par Lord_Darkmoon, 08 mars 2011 - 01:39 .

[vortexdr]

Tattia wrote...
Aww, boo-hoo, poor little baby...cry cry cry.

And this is supposed to hurt me?? LoL thanks for the free bump

[Wolf_in_the_Meadow]

This is the Internet - Insults are the universal language.

[Dragoonlordz]

double post

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 08 mars 2011 - 01:42 .

[vortexdr]

Tleining wrote...

vortexdr wrote...

See but thats the thing it's not just me....Bioware are pretty much alienating all their long term customers that helped build this company into what it is today...

And honestly I don't belive the devs really think taking options away is a good thing.... I blame EA and how their business model kills franchises

okay, first of all, what do you see as "all their long term customers"? Is there a club you have to join? From what i've seen, there are 20-30 people here on the Forum who don't like the changes. On the other hand you have 20-30 people who do like it. So the way i see it, it's just personal preference. Some people like the changes, others don't. But instead of just saying "i don't like it" and leave it at that, you have to call the changes dumbing down. Accuse people who like it of being "fanboys" and console kiddies.

Second: yes, ea is the devil and responsible for all that is bad in the world. Valid point

But it is dumbing down?? How is it not? Where i used to have options I now have none...Cmon just the fact alone that I cant equip my party with my own choice of armor or what weapons they should use...How is that not dumbing down and making things easier and simpler??

And a long term customer?? Well I started buying Bioware games starting at Baldurs Gate 1....Thats along term customer...

[Swisspease]

So Vortexdr are you going to keep quoting Tattia all day?
Oh yeah, free bump.

[flexxdk]

Yeah, you're REEEEEAAAAL mature. One could clearly see that in your previous posts, because they were SOOOOOO nice and and sooooo not-insulting.

/sarcasm

[Nonoru]

Love how the people who play the Bioware games on consoles are called kids and pc gamers are true hard fans.

Gotta love the bias and elitism feeling.

It's always funny to see some "veteran adults" PC players crying like kids because of few things they disagree with.Nice to see the irony that those who trust Bioware do not seem to be, at least for a majority,"longtime consumers".

[vortexdr]

Nope just for another hour then I can continue my save from the original on my leeched version...

[JoshPloof]

vortexdr wrote...

Tleining wrote...

vortexdr wrote...

See but thats the thing it's not just me....Bioware are pretty much alienating all their long term customers that helped build this company into what it is today...

And honestly I don't belive the devs really think taking options away is a good thing.... I blame EA and how their business model kills franchises

okay, first of all, what do you see as "all their long term customers"? Is there a club you have to join? From what i've seen, there are 20-30 people here on the Forum who don't like the changes. On the other hand you have 20-30 people who do like it. So the way i see it, it's just personal preference. Some people like the changes, others don't. But instead of just saying "i don't like it" and leave it at that, you have to call the changes dumbing down. Accuse people who like it of being "fanboys" and console kiddies.

Second: yes, ea is the devil and responsible for all that is bad in the world. Valid point

But it is dumbing down?? How is it not? Where i used to have options I now have none...Cmon just the fact alone that I cant equip my party with my own choice of armor or what weapons they should use...How is that not dumbing down and making things easier and simpler??

And a long term customer?? Well I started buying Bioware games starting at Baldurs Gate 1....Thats along term customer...

Have you even played the game or just the demo and are crying about things you've read. You can change your party member's weapons.

[Henk76]

vortexdr wrote...

And a long term customer?? Well I started buying Bioware games starting at Baldurs Gate 1....Thats along term customer...

It's a well known fact that senior citizens are adverse to change. You're a victim of your advanced age, probably. Don't worry, it's not your fault.

[karahasan]

Then why are you playing it if you hate it so much?

[Tattia]

vortexdr wrote...

Tattia wrote...


Aww, boo-hoo, poor little baby...cry cry cry.

Awww thanks for the free bump ******....

/wrists

get over yourself

[second-02]

Henk76 wrote...

I say, let this thread live. I am rather enjoying the TS's outbursts of ill-considered vitriol.

i agree, it's been a while since i saw such funny troll.

[vortexdr]

JoshPloof wrote...

vortexdr wrote...

Tleining wrote...

vortexdr wrote...

See but thats the thing it's not just me....Bioware are pretty much alienating all their long term customers that helped build this company into what it is today...

And honestly I don't belive the devs really think taking options away is a good thing.... I blame EA and how their business model kills franchises

okay, first of all, what do you see as "all their long term customers"? Is there a club you have to join? From what i've seen, there are 20-30 people here on the Forum who don't like the changes. On the other hand you have 20-30 people who do like it. So the way i see it, it's just personal preference. Some people like the changes, others don't. But instead of just saying "i don't like it" and leave it at that, you have to call the changes dumbing down. Accuse people who like it of being "fanboys" and console kiddies.

Second: yes, ea is the devil and responsible for all that is bad in the world. Valid point

But it is dumbing down?? How is it not? Where i used to have options I now have none...Cmon just the fact alone that I cant equip my party with my own choice of armor or what weapons they should use...How is that not dumbing down and making things easier and simpler??

And a long term customer?? Well I started buying Bioware games starting at Baldurs Gate 1....Thats along term customer...

Have you even played the game or just the demo and are crying about things you've read. You can change your party member's weapons.

Yes you can to a certain extend....but you cant for instance give a dagger user duel swords.

[Tleining]

vortexdr wrote...

But it is dumbing down?? How is it not? Where i used to have options I now have none...Cmon just the fact alone that I cant equip my party with my own choice of armor or what weapons they should use...How is that not dumbing down and making things easier and simpler??

And a long term customer?? Well I started buying Bioware games starting at Baldurs Gate 1....Thats along term customer...

i started buying Bioware games starting at NWN. Does that make me a long term customer? Does it make my opinion less valid than yours?

Dumbing down is your opinion. You don't like it, and instead of just saying that, you call it dumbing down, implying that you are better than all those who do like it.
You can equip Weapons, just the weapon style and armor is locked. And imo that's an improvement. Your Companions are their own person, they have their own opinions. And that is making it harder. You can't create the characters you need, you have to make do with the Companions you have. If you want a Healer-Mage in your Party, you have to take Anders. And so on.
Again, you don't like it, that's fine. I do like it, that's just as good. It doesn't mean it's dumbed down.

[Frozenflamekid]

BobSmith101 wrote...

I'd say don't support devs who only tell you about missing features the day before the game ships.

THANK YOU!

[JoshPloof]

vortexdr wrote...

JoshPloof wrote...

vortexdr wrote...

Tleining wrote...

vortexdr wrote...

See but thats the thing it's not just me....Bioware are pretty much alienating all their long term customers that helped build this company into what it is today...

And honestly I don't belive the devs really think taking options away is a good thing.... I blame EA and how their business model kills franchises

okay, first of all, what do you see as "all their long term customers"? Is there a club you have to join? From what i've seen, there are 20-30 people here on the Forum who don't like the changes. On the other hand you have 20-30 people who do like it. So the way i see it, it's just personal preference. Some people like the changes, others don't. But instead of just saying "i don't like it" and leave it at that, you have to call the changes dumbing down. Accuse people who like it of being "fanboys" and console kiddies.

Second: yes, ea is the devil and responsible for all that is bad in the world. Valid point

But it is dumbing down?? How is it not? Where i used to have options I now have none...Cmon just the fact alone that I cant equip my party with my own choice of armor or what weapons they should use...How is that not dumbing down and making things easier and simpler??

And a long term customer?? Well I started buying Bioware games starting at Baldurs Gate 1....Thats along term customer...

Have you even played the game or just the demo and are crying about things you've read. You can change your party member's weapons.

Yes you can to a certain extend....but you cant for instance give a dagger user duel swords.

You could only give dagger users dual swords in DA:O at higher levels, not at the beginning of the game. And you may be able to do the same here. If you can't, who cares, they've revamped daggers to be hell of a lot better than they were in Origins anyway.

[vortexdr]

Tleining wrote...

vortexdr wrote...

But it is dumbing down?? How is it not? Where i used to have options I now have none...Cmon just the fact alone that I cant equip my party with my own choice of armor or what weapons they should use...How is that not dumbing down and making things easier and simpler??

And a long term customer?? Well I started buying Bioware games starting at Baldurs Gate 1....Thats along term customer...

i started buying Bioware games starting at NWN. Does that make me a long term customer? Does it make my opinion less valid than yours?

Dumbing down is your opinion. You don't like it, and instead of just saying that, you call it dumbing down, implying that you are better than all those who do like it.
You can equip Weapons, just the weapon style and armor is locked. And imo that's an improvement. Your Companions are their own person, they have their own opinions. And that is making it harder. You can't create the characters you need, you have to make do with the Companions you have. If you want a Healer-Mage in your Party, you have to take Anders. And so on.
Again, you don't like it, that's fine. I do like it, that's just as good. It doesn't mean it's dumbed down.

Fair enough you like it, and i dont. But why not give us both options??? I had options in NWN, BG, FO1+2  why do you have to take options away???

They could of made a simple mode and a classic mode for instance....Do you really think having options is bad??

[Well]

Nonoru wrote...

Love how the people who play the Bioware games on consoles are called kids and pc gamers are true hard fans.

Gotta love the bias and elitism feeling.

It's always funny to see some "veteran adults" PC players crying like kids because of few things they disagree with.Nice to see the irony that those who trust Bioware do not seem to be, at least for a majority,"longtime consumers".

"Nice to see the irony that those who trust Bioware do not seem to be, at least for a majority,"longtime consumers".

You have facts to back that up right.It isn't one of those because I think it is so it must be so statements?I always like to see people crying about others crying.Just makes my day.

Kids say the darndest things.

[Henk76]

ah! You're making sense now, accepting that it is possible that some people DO like the game. Rant over? Then let's have a mature discussion...