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[Sagebeat]

 Ok. I've been playing the game for a couples hours now. I have a few questions, and I was hoping someone who knew what they were talking about might have some answers on the subject. 
After hearing about how the pirates have had this game for over 5 days, and how a full playthrough, finishing all side content takes approx 23-28 hours, I was slightly dejected, but kept my hopes up. 

After realizing that the new conversation wheel removes all depth from dialogue, and in essence simply allows you to pick from 1 of three ways of saying the exact same thing, and in some cases, doesnt even properly reflect the icon choice. 

(non sarcastic remarks via the face icon, being polite and timid with red fist icon, etc.)

Even when I found a woman in the Alienage, and walked up to her, after she begged me to help her find her wayward son, and I didnt have the option to say no, I simply told her i'd stop him (kill him).

For some reason me telling her that I wanted her son dead caused her to open up more, and give me more information about how to find him so I could "save" him? 

I put up with all of this, I put up with leveled loot not understanding you're one class, and offering you plenty of warrior and mage gear, when the only person who can use equipment in my game is a Rogue.

But why, WHY are the first 3 subterranean caves you encounter in the game THE EXACT SAME MAP WITH DIFFERENT NPCS IN THEM?

(The cave you go through to to release flemeth from the amulet, the cave you go into to find the wayward son, and the cave you go into to retrieve the qunari exploding recipe)

For a game that's been stripped to the bone in favor of simplification, has two DLC available 4 months before the game is released, and has less complexity in all aspects aside from graphics and voice acting then games you put over a DECADE AGO? 

WHY IS IT THAT YOU WERE SO HARD PRESSED FOR TIME YOU FELT THE NEED TO REUSE THE SAME DUNGEON 3 TIMES IN A ROW AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME?

Hopefully somone has an answer for this, I cant believe I spent 60$ for this. I wish I could take it off my steam list. Could someone just explain why, please?

[SamimaS]

Because Bioware want money. The same reason there is already so much DLC.

[Thiefy]

Klace was telling us about this last night. Dungeons are reused up the wazoo.

[crxerz]

bioware sold out pure and simple.

[FreedomFiter60]

They must've thought their "new fanbase" wouldn't notice.

[Nastynate65]

Ok, I really want a mod to answer this. I'm not purchasing my pre-ordered sig. edition until I hear mor about how great/bad this game is. The reviews gave me doubt, the demo gave me doubt, EVERYTHING since the first DLC anounced for the game gave me out. Bioware, answer this kids question!

[enhancedhpb]

Spoilers? Well, theres a specific forum for that isn't there?

[teh_619]

Does Bioware think we're stupid or something?
There is no way they'll see any more money of mine, if they keep going like this.

[Nastynate65]

No, this thread isn't going into some backwater area where it won't ever be seen by Bioware. I desperately want these concerns verified. I don't go into a store and buy things without observing their quality, unless its cereal. Like I said, I've had doubts since January, none of them have been addressed through either the demo OR additional reviews. I want a clear cut answer from Bioware now, have you re-used exact same maps/areas/dungeons/textures/etc. from DA:O? I've already heard how you cut out environmental detail (books in the circle of magi from DA:O) because you think people don't care for that kind of attention to detail (I do).

[Barbosa]

I feel sorry for you, but why did you buy the game first instance, didn't you see the demo?

[Mr. Horseshoe]

The game is an abomination. The offensive overuse of DLC is one thing, but dumbing down their only good RPG franchise in the last decade to the point where a brain dead chimpanzee could beat it is just unforgivable. Not to mention they have the gall to charge $60 for this pile of garbage. Bioware is dead to me now.

[Forry]

Wow. I didn't expect it to be THIS bad. The demo itself wasn't that great but oh well its "just" a demo but reading this, I don't think I'm going to get this game any time soon.

[Kiron22]

Bioware is going the route of other companies purchased by EA.
Read the EA Louse and EA Spouse blogs if you want to know why great companies that join EA start going down the crapper very quickly.
(it's not a Activision issue where Activision takes complete control like with Infinity Ward, but more of an issue with how EA structures it's developers and the retarded work ethics they stress)

Don't worry, soon enough you will have the Bioware Defense force coming in here arguing that "REUSING TERRAIN IS AWESOME BECAUSE IT ALLOWS BIOWARE TO DO LESS WORK AND MAKE MORE PROFIT!" because... somehow the company Bioware and it's shareholders are more important than the games Bioware produce.

I get this strange feeling that these new Dragon Age and Mass Effect fans are perhaps refugees of another RPG franchise that recently died in the ass for stressing it's retarded, poorly written implied romances and character relationships instead of focusing on core gameplay. *cough*Final Fantasy*cough*

Would explain alot.

[Nastynate65]

No no, look. I understand if Bioware wants, or EA is making, them do something different with their RPG, even if people feel it isnt an RPG anymore (dialogue wheel, no origins, etc.). Fine, this is a game, one they are making, make it different, I want Dragon Age 2 not Dragon Age: Origins 1.5/2. But Bioware, answer the question... DID you use the same maps/dungeons/areas from the original, that is, Dragon Age: Origins, game? IS there any evidence in this game that, rather than take an entirely new imaginative route, you borrowed/took/loaned/copied elements from the previous? This isn't something you get to pick and choose what you copy/what you make new. It's one or the other if you want my money, is it entirely new or is it an expansion set? Answer OPs question!!

[teh_619]

Nastynate65 wrote...

No no, look. I understand if Bioware wants, or EA is making, them do something different with their RPG, even if people feel it isnt an RPG anymore (dialogue wheel, no origins, etc.). Fine, this is a game, one they are making, make it different, I want Dragon Age 2 not Dragon Age: Origins 1.5/2. But Bioware, answer the question... DID you use the same maps/dungeons/areas from the original, that is, Dragon Age: Origins, game? IS there any evidence in this game that, rather than take an entirely new imaginative route, you borrowed/took/loaned/copied elements from the previous? This isn't something you get to pick and choose what you copy/what you make new. It's one or the other if you want my money, is it entirely new or is it an expansion set? Answer OPs question!!

You ain't gonna get an answer bro.

[Thiefy]

Hey guys you know what?

It's still going to be a good game.

[Nastynate65]

teh_619 wrote...

You ain't gonna get an answer bro.

Yeah I really don't post on these forums, but I can still make it blatantly obvious that I don't care about how the game is different from DA:O.  I just wanna be assured that if I do purchase this game, it's going towards completely new material, not some new/some copied and pasted.  Like I said earlier, I've had doubts about this game since January on its worth to me, moreso than any other game ever.  If anyone finds them in the same situation, best route to take imo is not buy anything.  Wait for more reviews and then decide.

Just noting this though, Bioware has not done a very good job alleviating my concerns (I'm sure they don't care about one target), but from all these DLC's, to me its blatantly obvious they only care for how many numbers they can get on first day of sales.

[IronAgePig]

this is the best game ever i have ever played

i haven't even played it yet and i know this for sure

if you don't like this game it's just not your type of game and you eat boogers

the only reason this game doesn't get a 10 (it gets a 9.999999) is because you can't be a dwarf (which i am sexually attracted to [only females])

i applaud bioware for taking an already perfect game in origins and completely revamping everything that made it good and creating perfection again for its sequel

is there any way we can donate money to bioware from this site? i don't feel the $60 i paid is enough for such an acheivment in man made art, think of it as a tip for a great meal at a restaurant

hopefully other game devs take not of what has been done here, especially the people behind the witcher 2

games are about magnificent stories and immersing the player in a unique fantasy world, which bioware manages to do again and again in every product they release time after time

at the end of the day dragon age 2 is the greatest game since backgammon, you heard it here first

[Nastynate65]

IronAgePig wrote...

this is the best game ever i have ever played

i haven't even played it yet and i know this for sure

if you don't like this game it's just not your type of game and you eat boogers

the only reason this game doesn't get a 10 (it gets a 9.999999) is because you can't be a dwarf (which i am sexually attracted to [only females])

i applaud bioware for taking an already perfect game in origins and completely revamping everything that made it good and creating perfection again for its sequel

is there any way we can donate money to bioware from this site? i don't feel the $60 i paid is enough for such an acheivment in man made art, think of it as a tip for a great meal at a restaurant

hopefully other game devs take not of what has been done here, especially the people behind the witcher 2

games are about magnificent stories and immersing the player in a unique fantasy world, which bioware manages to do again and again in every product they release time after time

at the end of the day dragon age 2 is the greatest game since backgammon, you heard it here first

Can you answer the original question?  Did they re-use the same maps/dungeons/areas/etc., not all but some, from DA:O?

[Fatal XIII]

I don't think the CoD fanbase will notice.

[Sagebeat]

 I'm sad to say the next 3 areas have also all been the exact same maps over and over again.

Approach to wounded coast IS wounded coast, and the apostate cavern is the same as the first three caverns before it. 

Should I execpt every single cave to be the exact same cave? Is this a joke?

[IronAgePig]

Nastynate65 wrote...

IronAgePig wrote...

this is the best game ever i have ever played

i haven't even played it yet and i know this for sure

if you don't like this game it's just not your type of game and you eat boogers

the only reason this game doesn't get a 10 (it gets a 9.999999) is because you can't be a dwarf (which i am sexually attracted to [only females])

i applaud bioware for taking an already perfect game in origins and completely revamping everything that made it good and creating perfection again for its sequel

is there any way we can donate money to bioware from this site? i don't feel the $60 i paid is enough for such an acheivment in man made art, think of it as a tip for a great meal at a restaurant

hopefully other game devs take not of what has been done here, especially the people behind the witcher 2

games are about magnificent stories and immersing the player in a unique fantasy world, which bioware manages to do again and again in every product they release time after time

at the end of the day dragon age 2 is the greatest game since backgammon, you heard it here first

Can you answer the original question?  Did they re-use the same maps/dungeons/areas/etc., not all but some, from DA:O?

let me refer to an age old quote:

"if it's broke then fix it"

the opposite applies as well

[Dirty Whore]

Nastynate65 wrote...


Can you answer the original question?  Did they re-use the same maps/dungeons/areas/etc., not all but some, from DA:O?

I almost wish they had used a few maps from DAO considering the game has 1 CAVE, 1 HOUSE, 1 DUNFEON etc. re-used for the entire game.

[ILoveTsundere]

IronAgePig wrote...

this is the best game ever i have ever played

i haven't even played it yet and i know this for sure

if you don't like this game it's just not your type of game and you eat boogers

the only reason this game doesn't get a 10 (it gets a 9.999999) is because you can't be a dwarf (which i am sexually attracted to [only females])

i applaud bioware for taking an already perfect game in origins and completely revamping everything that made it good and creating perfection again for its sequel

is there any way we can donate money to bioware from this site? i don't feel the $60 i paid is enough for such an acheivment in man made art, think of it as a tip for a great meal at a restaurant

hopefully other game devs take not of what has been done here, especially the people behind the witcher 2

games are about magnificent stories and immersing the player in a unique fantasy world, which bioware manages to do again and again in every product they release time after time

at the end of the day dragon age 2 is the greatest game since backgammon, you heard it here first

Not sure if serious...

[kittong]

Currently playing on the Mac right now and I can say the game looks so ... I don't know - so clean. I miss the textures, the fine details in the background. And I feel it is too easy. Imagine a troll killed in just a few seconds with only normal attacks? In DAO I felt the hectic fight scenes and the tactics that I have to employ to ensure the survival of my party members. Now, I don't even have to think about them and just focus on my own character. I can't even change my party members' armor. Ugh.