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#51
Koreos

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So far I love it. I really like the upgrade system. However I think it'd be great if there was a tool in the website to plan builds (like wow talent trees).

Only complain I have so far is the bug fullscreen that I have reported in the technical forums.

I don't understand why people keep saying it has been "dumbed down". It may have been streamlined but that does not mean the game is easier. Fast paced, snappy combat is a HUGE improvement over DAO. Most people seem to think that when combat is that way, it means it's button-mashing and tactic-less. I think those people simply choose to take it at face value, without actually delving into it. I am actually playing the game exactly like I did in DAO, except now it actually makes me feel powerful.

Something I could see improved is the tactics system. However, I am a programmer and therefore feel limited by one liners 'if/then'. I wish we could see this further developed with added options such as 'ands' and 'ors'.

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PROS;
-Mages and Rogues are just awesome.
-Some pretty awesome dialog and party banter.
-Inon Zur continues to rock out the soundtrack.
-Darkspawn look silly but just about every other model looks better (the detail on undead is amazing).
-Check out the cloud coverage in outdoor environments. lovely.
-Load times are great in comparison to DA1 running on the same system and NO memory leaks that I have noticed so far. (i.e. corpses exploding with loot 45 seconds after they die if you play the game longer than an hour straight)
-Player Character beards aren't laughable this time around.

CONS:
-Nightmare not nearly nightmarish enough, 'maybe' the equivalent of hard on PC...maybe.
-Welsh accents make my ears bleed.
-No bird's eye view (tactical view). Really not needed with how nightmare is but would still be nice.
-Mage gear (excluding staves) still looks retarded. Not as bad as before, but still lousy.

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Team Awsome wrote...

 Catering to the lowest common denominator

I have returned my pre-order in bitter dissapointment. I love decking out my party members in all the amazing armor I find and now that just like in mass effect has been taken away. This is a game with swords, armor and dragons how can you take such a integral part away from us and leave us with simple insulting upgrade options.

Mass Effect 2 was dumbed down and I hated that part of it and I refuse to support the games I love being stripped down to cater to Joe Public. I will not be purchasing this game!


I agree.  RPG's are turning into games tailored and targeted at non rpg players just because they are trying to make money off of people that are not interested in what makes an RPG so great.

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Character Creation is very poor. Why do we have straight bangs? It's ugly. I want long hair. More colors to hair.
We can't choose the first spell / talent. We can't choose the first weapon for  warriors and rogues.
This hinders the creation of buildings.
Spells and Talents, the majority are the same, only updated.
it's horrible to spend a point because you can not get certain spells in the second level of the same school, so arcane. Need to wait to next level.
No elemental specialization for mages. Why do I'll do a wizard with fire and ice, if my specialization will be blood, healing or energy?¬¬
No archer specialization.

I hope for more spell/talents and specializations.


But I love the scenarios and characters. Great story! <3:lol:

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I REALLY hate the new art style, it's wayy to similar to god of war. And I hate how Varric is narrating every single thing telling us what's happening and we don't actually get to experience how it happens or change/shape how it happens in any way.

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I havent got it yet, but I'm pretty sure its going to be epic.
I'm annoyed with all the potheads that keep saying DA:O is better.
Heres a fact;
DA:O Was made in 7 years
DA II was made in 2 years
Of course it would be more dumbed down but that doesnt mean you wont enjoy it!


Dragon age Origins took longer yes but also keep in mind Dragon Age 2 also uses the Assests from that game and improves upon them so dumbed down is silly to even say.

The old female models have been replaced and look amazing, so far I'm really enjoying the game.

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I wish they took even 3 or 4 years to make DA:2 it would have been a hundred thousand times better IMO.

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I'll join the minority that LOVE this game. Been playing a couple of hours now and I have to say that they pegged it. DA:O, while an excellent game, at times got to the point of being a little tedious, where you couldn't advance without doing 2 hours of piecemeal roleplay to get to the point you wanted to be. So far in DA2, it's wham-bam-thank-you-maam, great pacing, GREAT dialogue and GREAT music, and excellent, smooth gameplay. Excellent game.

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I love it, cant wait to get home tonight and play some more.

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I'm really annoyed by the death animations.

It seems that every time I kill something, it blows up in chunks of meat or you every single member severed. It looks silly and stupid.

This is not Dynasty Warrior.

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The game isn't easy on "Hard".
I don't think I can finish the first run with "nightmare".

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Cool, seems like people who have actualy played the game like it a lot (with DA2 icon on their portaits). That's a very nice thing to hear. :)

DTKT wrote...

I'm really annoyed by the death animations.

It
seems that every time I kill something, it blows up in chunks of meat
or you every single member severed. It looks silly and stupid.

This is not Dynasty Warrior.


Haha, I wish Dynasty Warriors had blood and limbs flying. That would be awesome.

Modificata da Arppis, 08 marzo 2011 - 05:57 .


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playing on pc, im like ~6 hours in, and im feeling pretty meh about the whole experience. i feel like there is no story line, and i currently have no motivation to continue doing quests assigned to me.

for only being able to equip one character i sure am getting alot of extraneous armor consistently..

the graphics are okay for the most part, but in alot of cases it's a step down from da:o

the thing that bugs me the most so far is that there is little to no correlation to the events of da:o, just brief mentions of the awesome things you did...while you are doing silly quest of no relevance or direction :/

i dunno so far i just feel pretty let down from the game

Modificata da lowhonor, 08 marzo 2011 - 06:04 .


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I love this game, better than the first one.

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Dragon Age 2. What a disappointment of a game. Removing most of the RPG elements and taking the rest and over-simplifying it, Bioware has taken an incredible series and ruined it. I felt like i was playing Return of the King for xbox. Its an action game. Big time button masher. No strategy in comparison to the first. The rogue and mage are definitely more enjoyable to play over the warrior though. The warrior depends on fast i can push the buttons.  And abilities are less enjoyable now that you can use them all the time. The joy and beauty of using them are gone. Gameplay/ fighting is boring and repetitive which therefore takes away all joy from victories. The story is also gone. Weak and dim comparison to the first game. Way disappointing... Lastly, I hate Varric narrating and no auto attack. 

I know Bioware was all focused about Hawke and the story of Kirkwall, but in doing so they removed me from the equation. Where is my character? Where is my adventure? Where is my story? All of this becomes obsolete with Bioware trying to control too much of the game (no races, linear path, tiny world (please! no one wants to stay in Kirkwall the whole time and grow weary with the same scenery))

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lowhonor wrote...

playing on pc, im like ~6 hours in, and im feeling pretty meh about the whole experience. i feel like there is no story line, and i currently have no motivation to continue doing quests assigned to me.

for only being able to equip one character i sure am getting alot of extraneous armor consistently..

the graphics are okay for the most part, but in alot of cases it's a step down from da:o

the thing that bugs me the most so far is that there is little to no correlation to the events of da:o, just brief mentions of the awesome things you did...while you are doing silly quest of no relevance or direction :/

i dunno so far i just feel pretty let down from the game



I agree 100%. There's nothing keeping me playing this game except for the off chance it'll get better. I had the same problem with Final Fantasy 13. I was extremely underwhelmed and I couldn't even finish it. Hopefully I'll be able to finish this game, but I dunno, the story so far isn't enthralling like it was in DA:O and I hate how Varric is narrating everything.

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Thalinor00 wrote...

Team Awsome wrote...

 Catering to the lowest common denominator

I have returned my pre-order in bitter dissapointment. I love decking out my party members in all the amazing armor I find and now that just like in mass effect has been taken away. This is a game with swords, armor and dragons how can you take such a integral part away from us and leave us with simple insulting upgrade options.

Mass Effect 2 was dumbed down and I hated that part of it and I refuse to support the games I love being stripped down to cater to Joe Public. I will not be purchasing this game!


I agree.  RPG's are turning into games tailored and targeted at non rpg players just because they are trying to make money off of people that are not interested in what makes an RPG so great.


The stuff that makes RPGs so great is "decking out my party members in all the amazing armor I find "????

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AlanC9 wrote...

Thalinor00 wrote...

Team Awsome wrote...

 Catering to the lowest common denominator

I have returned my pre-order in bitter dissapointment. I love decking out my party members in all the amazing armor I find and now that just like in mass effect has been taken away. This is a game with swords, armor and dragons how can you take such a integral part away from us and leave us with simple insulting upgrade options.

Mass Effect 2 was dumbed down and I hated that part of it and I refuse to support the games I love being stripped down to cater to Joe Public. I will not be purchasing this game!


I agree.  RPG's are turning into games tailored and targeted at non rpg players just because they are trying to make money off of people that are not interested in what makes an RPG so great.


The stuff that makes RPGs so great is "decking out my party members in all the amazing armor I find "????




Nope, what makes RPG's amazing is not having to sit through 40+ hours of interactive movie. and less than 5 hours of actual gameplay.

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akcorr wrote...

Why o Why do I have to work today??? I hate it when real life has to interfere with my gaming needs!!


THIS!!!!  My game has arrived from Amazon (did the Comcast happy dance upon the news), and is patiently awaiting the end of my day ...  I'm dying here!!!!!  Only a half-day to go .... *slight drooling*  My co-workers think I'm completely nuts.  They may not be far from wrong ...Immagine inviata

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I think the game is totally, totally awesome.

I had reservations after playing the demo, and I have to wonder if that what's some of the impressions here are based on, but I purchased the game anyway.

I stayed up until 6am playing and the last time I did that with a new game was DAO.

I'm finding Hard to be plenty hard - more so than Origins - and the combat to be plenty tactical (and I say that coming off of 6 months of SC2).

Although I was dubious about it at first, the new art style has grown on me to the point of preferring it over Origins. Origins was so drab. I think they've found a nice balance between WoW-like playfulness and the more serious tone of the series.

My RPG days stretch back to MUDs and this is plenty RPG-esque for me.

Stellar job, Bioware. Love love love it.

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I played a bit on the PC. Pros are + and cons are -. There is a summary/explanation at the end.

I played on HARD. (comparitively, I played DA:O and DA:A only on the PC, and only on Normal, and I loved them, for the most part)

+ varric owns. Carver ****ed about how he was always being overshadowed, and how he didn't want to be fodder for his (varric's) stories. Varric goes "don't worry, I don't write children's stories". ****ing TOLD.
+ combat is much improved, for the better
+ you can press a button to get rid of the UI, perfect for screenshots
+ talent tree is nice
+ potions display a visual cooldown like talents on your toolbar if you use them
+ difficulty levels are actually different, instead of just nerfing PC damage and buffing NPC damage they actually change mob behavior, which is welcome.
- talking to varric about the mining operation, your three responses all do exactly the same thing, but with a different tone. Lame.
- injury kits are not on the toolbar (though in the developer blog, they are)
- character screen does not show updated statuses, unlike DA:O. Oh you have on elemental weapons, or heroic aura? You can see how much they give via the tooltip but not by the character panel (as a total, DA:O did this with green text) or by hovering over the aura on the bottom right.
- hard is too easy, with some frustrating elements. Oh hi, sup Assassin, sure I love you going into stealth and then appearing behind my mage stabbing him for half his health. Or using drop aggro spells only to have the mob bounce between the nearest (like 5 yards) threat instead of the closest high threat (30 yards). UGH I can only imagine that Nightmare will be frustrating, with assassin's stealing potions (my main complaint with nightmare)
- the game is extremely unoptimized. I get better quality out of DA:O on my laptop than DA2 on similar settings. DA:O I can run on medium, DA2 I can run on Low, and it looks worse on DX9. I'm not at home so I can't judge this on my desktop (good cpu/ram/a 1GB 4890 dx10.1 card) which should run it about as much as the demo I hope (30-60fps)
- art style is really absurd at times. Retconning qunari and making flemeth sexualized isn't "cool".
- combat animations and sound effects are not cool and grating. Yes SWIFF SWIFF SWIFF for a million times from my mage's staff is annoying. The animations are all over the top, it's needed to hide the next point, but as a whole not needed.
- there is still shuffling. Put your characters in a small alleyway or something, and they shuffle around each other. You have to take direct control and yank them away to get them to move faster.
- the UI is MUCH better than the demo, and what I saw for the consoles, but why does it take up the whole screen now? The point of high resolutions is that you can display more on the screen, not take UP the whole screen. Ugh.
- The higher the resolution, the smaller the toolbar. At high resolutions, this is a real problem though probably just an oversight.
- facial animations are really poor in both technical prowess and presentation. Furrowing eyebrows in the hands of the modelers = really obvious clipping and polygonal edges that looks disgusting.
- No one looks like they're having legitimate emotions. Look at the facial animations of DA:O like Allistar and Morrigan, and look at Avaline and Carver. It's rather disappointing that the best one so far is Varric.
- if you directly control varric, you literally have to mash R to get him to auto-attack. On the PC. Welp
- reused animations from mass effect, drink animation, conversation animations, you name it
- areas look too bland, easy to get lost if you don't look at the minimap.
- The city feels pretty empty. Think, the Citadel from ME1. Remember that? Now imagine it was high fantasy instead. Welcome... to Kirkwall friend.
- conversation feels forced half the time
- avaline = morrigan (she's an ass)
- everyone has huge breasts
- avaline's shoulderpads are way too small for her model, it looks really awkward. It's like she's wearing an elbow guard on her shoulders, which doesn't make sense.
- no modding tools, which is disappointing.

Anyways after all this, is it a bad game? No. Is it as good as DA:O on the PC was? Unless something changes in the five hours I played, it's not as good. There is just simply too much change to appeal to consoles, while changing almost everything that made Dragon Age enjoyable on the PC. Maybe it should have just been called Dragon Age: Exodus like it was in development, and only released on consoles, since that's obviously what they were trying to accomplish.

Not worth $60 by far, but I'd pay $30 for it and think it was a good deal.

3/5 for me overall, tops.

Modificata da GvazElite, 08 marzo 2011 - 06:33 .


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JoshPloof wrote...

lowhonor wrote...

playing on pc, im like ~6 hours in, and im feeling pretty meh about the whole experience. i feel like there is no story line, and i currently have no motivation to continue doing quests assigned to me.

for only being able to equip one character i sure am getting alot of extraneous armor consistently..

the graphics are okay for the most part, but in alot of cases it's a step down from da:o

the thing that bugs me the most so far is that there is little to no correlation to the events of da:o, just brief mentions of the awesome things you did...while you are doing silly quest of no relevance or direction :/

i dunno so far i just feel pretty let down from the game



I agree 100%. There's nothing keeping me playing this game except for the off chance it'll get better. I had the same problem with Final Fantasy 13. I was extremely underwhelmed and I couldn't even finish it. Hopefully I'll be able to finish this game, but I dunno, the story so far isn't enthralling like it was in DA:O and I hate how Varric is narrating everything.


Yes... the sad thing is see a nice rpg maker company like bioware dumbing down roleplay elements from theyr games this game don't have enought depht or enought contents to be considered as a true sequel.. This oversemplification kills the immersion and honestly wihout go in a console war.. this game is good only on console but its nothing in the CRPG market... Im heavily disappointed im lucky that i played it at my friend home so i don't puchased it what a waste of money...

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JoshPloof wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Thalinor00 wrote...

Team Awsome wrote...

 Catering to the lowest common denominator

I have returned my pre-order in bitter dissapointment. I love decking out my party members in all the amazing armor I find and now that just like in mass effect has been taken away. This is a game with swords, armor and dragons how can you take such a integral part away from us and leave us with simple insulting upgrade options.

Mass Effect 2 was dumbed down and I hated that part of it and I refuse to support the games I love being stripped down to cater to Joe Public. I will not be purchasing this game!


I agree.  RPG's are turning into games tailored and targeted at non rpg players just because they are trying to make money off of people that are not interested in what makes an RPG so great.


The stuff that makes RPGs so great is "decking out my party members in all the amazing armor I find "????




Nope, what makes RPG's amazing is not having to sit through 40+ hours of interactive movie. and less than 5 hours of actual gameplay.


Yes, like Origins had. All you usualy did in that game was watch people talk. It's same as here.

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ZOMGGGG Why have they not turned Dragon Age into an MMO!?!?!?!?! (I guess it would be hard to do that and TOR :))


Don't say that! I'm already cheezed there won't be a Mac port of TOR for the foreseeable future.  Not that I could play it, anyway--MMOs are expensive and my macbook is getting old...

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Tried it and it's just meh :(
I have no complaints regarding combat since it's pretty challenging even on hard mode (for me at least).
The interface is one thing i can't get over. It just doesn't belong in this game.
Graphically, it much "clearer" though world textures are kinda de-saturated.
As expected many of the wheel options do not correspond to what is spoken by a character.

While i'm at it, is there a way to customize the Hawks looks, since it came out without damn eyebrows >_>