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[WookieeChuckles]

I have to admit I was a bit skeptical about such a brief period between Origins and this game, but this does not feel like rushed product. This is a tremendous upgrade and the new look is gorgeous. I'm very impressed so far and can't wait to sink more hours into it.

[Loremazd]

Haex, you've made the exact same point 5 times now, I understand your point, and even sympathise with it, but there really is no need to restate your opinion so many times.

[makeshiftwings7]

My first impressions:
- Right after the game installed, I clicked the DLC option in the menu to make sure I had all my unlocked items. It said nothing was there. So I clicked "Available Content" and it took me to the DA: O mod page. WTF. Had to spend a while searching on the forum before figuring out I had to go to a well hidden link in my forum profile to get to the list of content and then click a few times to find a small download link for Black Emporium, and got it installed. Also registered my copy of the game to unlock the boots, which was weird because I already have the game linked to this account when I bought it on Steam... doesn't that count as registering? Went back to the DLC page to make sure everything installed properly... it didn't. Went back to the forums, saw I might need to exit and restart the launcher a few times, finally got it working. Then started playing!
- Watched the intro, then got switched to the intro combat. I killed a few darkspawn, and then it popped up the dialog wheel to say something to my sister. I picked a choice, and the game froze. PC was locked up, I tried hitting a bunch of keys, after about thirty seconds of being frozen, it suddenly started again, but it had skipped over whatever I had said and ended the conversation. Continued with the intro battle.
- Weird slowdown and sudden stops for no apparent reason... the demo didn't do this. I remember the demo said "DX 11 doesn't work, but it will by launch" and guess that they never actually fixed it and I'd probably have to revert to DX9, but couldn't figure out how in the menus.
- End of the "fake" Hawke ending, and the dialogue between Varic and the templar is different than it was in the demo. Weird. I think the demo's version of their dialogue was better.
- Hooray, I finally get to customize Hawke! Except... I can't. Everything is grayed out. Eventually I figure out that you can only customize Hawkes 3 through 8, but not 1 or 2. Unfortunately 1 and 2 are the Lady Hawkes that I like (the others being somewhat hideous), and I want to just make a few small changes. But I can't. I try to recreate 1/2 Hawke using Hawke 3 but find that her hair isn't available and the customizable faces just look worse overall than Hawke 1. I give up and do what Bioware seems to be trying to push me to do, and choose to just go with default Hawke 1.
- Ooh, I can import my DA:O save! Awesome, I do that. The process seems a little glitchy, but it says it imports successfully. Cool.
- Starting to play again! I have a dog! Cool. It just disappeared! Buggy! I have fifty quests telling me to find a home to get an item! Annoying! The game slows down and nearly stops again! Why did I pay for this?!
- I play a bit more and sort of enjoy the combat though all I do is bind "target nearest and attack" to a mouse button and click it over and over, but press "1" on the keyboard once every 20 seconds to shoot my lightning bolt.
- Stop playing for the night and come to the forums to see what's up with the slowdown, and happen to see a post saying the DA:O import doesn't actually work, and that it corrupts your save files including what you do in DA II, so that the second half of the game doesn't track what you did in the first half. Apparently it says that in the readme, but I didn't read it. If there's a big shiny button that lets you import your save, but you know it doesn't work and will corrupt the save file causing you to start over... YOU SHOULDN'T LEAVE THAT BUTTON THERE. I guess I'll have to start over when I get home and not import my save. Either that or just let the game sit there for a few weeks until it hopefully gets patched. :|

Summary: First impressions not so good. Somehow, it was much much worse than the demo.

[Haexpane]

Loremazd wrote...

 

My suggestion to all of you. Dont compare it to the original, just, play the game. In the same way as a music theory major can't enjoy a concert because they see the flaws, it's the same way for an rpg fan. If you cant take yourself out of an analytical viewpoint, you wont enjoy this game.

Thing is, I'm not being all analytical about it.  I just emotionally LIKE having control over an RPG party and their inventory and I really enjoy giving them new weapons and armor.  This isn't something I made up myself  It's a time tested, voter approved RPG convention that adds a lot of depth, diversity and fun to RPGs with parties.

Personal preference?  Yes of course.  But the GREATEST RPG OF ALL TIME Baldur's Gate 2  is just something I thought was insipring the DA franchise.  Now I realize Mass Effect 2 is the driving force behind it.  I'm burnt out on Mass Effect, loved ME1, couldn't even finish ME2.  Too boring.

[DarkenSol99]

I played this on my brothers PC and i have to say my expectations were right.

This game has very very few positive points.

The characters are 2d and uninteresting made worse by the average voice acting. The graphics, while good, are extremely generic and boring.

The game has been dumbed down to a point were it is an action hack and slash and not a crpg. Problem is, its not even a good action game. God of War and its kin were much better.

my fanboy 16 year old brother agrees and has sent the game back in disgust.

Bioware your quality in your games is getting progressively worse IMO.

[Ninjamike4]

some may find her annoying but i love Merrill

[Hoogies123]

People need to stop saying things like
"Inventory doesnt make a game an RPG"
"Customization isnt what makes an RPG"
"Dont compare it to Origins, its a different game"

Sure story is the centralized aspect of an RPG, but when inventory and customization as things that Bioware has included in almost every other game they have made with the exception of ME2 then its hard to say they are not key features or necessary.

And of course we are going to to compare it to Dragon Age: Origins, ITS DRAGON AGE 2 for christ sake.

[Haexpane]

Hoogies123 wrote...

People need to stop saying things like
"Inventory doesnt make a game an RPG"
"Customization isnt what makes an RPG"
"Dont compare it to Origins, its a different game"

Sure story is the centralized aspect of an RPG, but when inventory and customization as things that Bioware has included in almost every other game they have made with the exception of ME2 then its hard to say they are not key features or necessary.

And of course we are going to to compare it to Dragon Age: Origins, ITS DRAGON AGE 2 for christ sake.

I know right?   I'll defend Bioware all day long, but it's ridiculous when people stay "stop comparing Dragon Age X to Dragon Age y"

Ok, how about we start comparing Dragon Age 2 to Baldur's Gate 2?   Then we will really see how stripped down and dumbed down DA2 is.

[hekalite]

I am playing on the PC.

I have played long enough to get up to about level 6.  My first impressions are very positive (at least the post technical difficulty impressions ).   This represents a complete 180 from my reaction to the demo.  I am so glad I decided to buy it after all, and that was a pretty close call for me.  For anyone who believes this game has been dumbed down, I strongly recommend you crank up the difficulty.  I am playing on Hard and the challenge so far has been right about what I am looking for.

I don't have any specific pros & cons right now because I don't think I have experienced enough of the game to draw any reasonable conclusions.  The only thing I can say is that just about all the changes I thought I would hate have turned out to be good for the game IMO (most notably: faster paced combat, lack of friendly fire and simplified loot).

[Chaon]

First impression is that tiered release dates are a pain in the neck.

Pre-ordered this game from Steam and we are getting conflicting information about when it will be unlocked from 0000h 9th of March till sometime 11th of March.

Surely with digital provision of gams there is no more need to have to spread unlocking time out over regions to cope with physical delivery times.

[jackygates]

Heres my Feedback on DA2:

Pros: The Combat is fast I like it, Talent trees, The Comical Choice on the talking wheel and Mage melee attacks and rich Storyline!

Cons: Elfs look twiggy, the big one is the over use of Huge breasts on every female, and no Sir Ponce a-lot... me sad about that one lol I hope that wasn't a spoiler hehe

Over all I loved the game on PS3 I wished you guys at bio allowed Mods on the PC like DA:O...Now that I tossed my 2 cents in I am off to do makers knows what Maybe start a rogue I loved the warrior 2handed class!

Modifié par jackygates, 08 mars 2011 - 07:42 .

[Nekator]

MMO Style Layout, ugly graphics, soulless "Loot" Items without any description, less custimization of your character and nearly none of the npcs, repetetive quests.. but oh so great Action Battles, where "every button does something flashy".. wow... *pukes*.
I cannot hear people saying how "streamlined" and "faster" gameplay is so great, when in reality it´s only for the actionmarket and for players who don´t like anything a bit demanding of their intelligence (and no, i dont mean Impossible difficulty where the hordes of enemies are just stronger)

Can i give back my game anyhow? Nope... ok, then at least i´m cured from buying any Bio Games in the future...

[Nekator]

double post

Modifié par Nekator, 08 mars 2011 - 07:38 .

[wrdnshprd]

i really dont understand people's complaints about the inventory..

the only thing you really cant change is aesthetics. you can still min/max with the upgrades and runes found throughout the game. and regarding to starter gear.. i havent really looked at the stats of the current DLC so ill wait to comment on that..

but in regards to say the blood dragon armor.. it required 38 strength to use.. so you pretty much had to wait till later in order to use it anyway. and in DAO, how much of a real difference did the gear you find early on make? really it was more about how much fatigue you had and whether it was a +1 attack vs darkspawn or the like.

the only real armor set you could arguably get early on was from the dalish elf zone, but really that went on my character, and again i think the strength requirement was rather high so i dont think i could use it right away.

also, keep in mind there are still rings, amulets, and swords/shields/daggers that can be switched out.. the only weapon that cant is the dwarf crossbow.

i understand that not being able to tailor your warrior/rogue companion to what weapon style you would prefer they have isnt ideal.. but honestly, doesnt that equate to more strategy? you actually have to think about who to bring. and honestly, i didnt change my weapon styles all that much in DAO since there really wasnt a respec.. was it available in warden's keep without a mod? i cant recall. and even if there was, i never messed with that, but i guess i can understand wanting that freedom.

so, besides the weapon style restrictions, how exactly has DA2's inventory been downgraded in comparison to DA1?

obviously you guys are entitled to your opinion.. i just dont see it.

[Uzaik]

Plain and simple: Last time I preorder a Bioware game. This game was a huge disappointment. Everything, from the way the Signature Edition and the DLCs were handled to the game itself, has been nothing but sub-par quality. Wonder if any of these guys even read these threads... Seems they don't, so I find it pointless to number its many, many flaws.

[Ginggis Khan]

Bioware - THANK YOU!

ANOTHER MASTERPIECE! Everythign works fine for me, import worked fine, for my blood armor and DX11 graphics are superb. Everything is swell. Except for some reason when I run or turn by using keyboard performance is not as smooth as if I run or turn WITH right mouse button pressed. Not sure how else to explain, lol.

Also I got game from STEAM and can't figure out how to get Prince DLC.
CAN"T WAIT TO GET BACK HOME AND PLAY MORE!

[jackygates]

Nekator wrote...

Can i give back my game anyhow? Nope... ok, then at least i´m cured from buying any Bio Games in the future...

...sad I dunno weather to feel sad for you or sad for bio for you basing your dislike on one game for future games!

[Mick301981]

 A vague question for those who have played the game on hard.

What are your impressions about the difficulty on hardmode?

I did 3 playthroughs of Origins(Xbox 360), on Normal, each one being successively easer(as one would expect:lol:).

I want to try DA2 on hardmode.

So, how badly should I expect my ass to get kicked on hardmode, considering I never played it in Origins?

[sax52]

Playing on the PC
I bought this game to be enertained. I am enjoying the game and I am enertained. I use tactics and the faster combat feels smooth. Great game. This is a great work of art.

[Killjoy Cutter]

TallBearNC wrote...
The bad:
Dx11 performance SUCKS.. even with the nvbeta drivers.. with my rig, the game is *unplayable* (I consider anything under 15fps unplayable) with all the DX11 options on. Either the game's DX11 engine needs work, the drivers need work, or both. I suspect both. I have to run in HIGH detail mode at 1920x1200 or 2560x1600 to get decent performance.. if I go to VERY HIGH (even with no boxes checked)... boom 15fps.. and even less in combat.

I read that the VERY HIGH setting requires a video card with at least 1GB of RAM  (on the video card, not system RAM, just to forestall any "hur derp who only has 1 GB of RAM hurr derp" comments that always seem to pop up from people eager to find mud to fling).

[Hellosanta]

System
PC

I played the game for good 10 hours straight right after the NA launch. 

DA2 .. is simply amazing. I just love every bit of it so far. New setting, Kirkwall, is lovely. New characters are, simply, delicious(?). I have to admit that the game need some optimization for very high and hi-res textures options because FPS can fall under 20 even in monstrous gaming PCs -especially outside of Kirkwall.

I love all companions, they are just gorgeous. I didn't think I'd like them so much, but now I really want to pursue every single possible romances. They have the looks, marked individulality. Occasional chat with them and their party banter make me giggle a lot.  I haven't done armor upgrade so far, so no comment on that.

Combat feels much harder than Origin, in fact. I'm playing in hard and .. the gap between normal and hard difficulty is pretty huge. If i don't keep an eye on every party members, some of them will get lied down on the cold ground shortly. I had a bit of hard time fighting Ogre. I never lost in the battle after I got those godly DLC items though.

So far, I'm pretty happy with the game. I think i'm already addicted to it. I just hope people will find it interesting enough to give a shot or two. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

Nekator wrote...


MMO Style Layout, ugly graphics, soulless "Loot" Items without any description, less custimization of your character and nearly none of the npcs, repetetive quests.. but oh so great Action Battles, where "every button does something flashy".. wow... *pukes*.
I cannot hear people saying how "streamlined" and "faster" gameplay is so great, when in reality it´s only for the actionmarket and for players who don´t like anything a bit demanding of their intelligence (and no, i dont mean Impossible difficulty where the hordes of enemies are just stronger)

Can i give back my game anyhow? Nope... ok, then at least i´m cured from buying any Bio Games in the future...

I take it you're on a console? 

That's where most of the "button mash" comments seem to come from.

Can't play until I get home from work tonight, will post my impressions then, so I can't comment on the gameplay issues beyond what we were shown in the demo -- not that those looked promising.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 08 mars 2011 - 08:03 .

[Hellosanta]

Mick301981 wrote...

 A vague question for those who have played the game on hard.

What are your impressions about the difficulty on hardmode?

I did 3 playthroughs of Origins(Xbox 360), on Normal, each one being successively easer(as one would expect:lol:).

I want to try DA2 on hardmode.

So, how badly should I expect my ass to get kicked on hardmode, considering I never played it in Origins?

I'm playing DA2 in hard with PC, and ... it's hard, yes.
I think it's harder than Origins until you get to the point where you get those DLC items. Even after you get those, you still need to pay attention to every party members if you don't want to end up finishing the battle by only one character or so (and it's hard to defeat enemies by one character if he/she is not mage/archer.) You need to constantly pause and commend each party members, pretty much. I don't think you can really play DA2 like anction game in hard difficulty.

[Zenthars]

mmm ... I read the comments that it does not take more than a simple sentence:
is really a rpg, or has become false copy ME2?

Maybe I'm wrong, will go the way of ME2 or that everyone likes and is a must and really is the first epic fail of BioWare.
I hope not the last statement.

[Ginggis Khan]

Mick301981 wrote...

 A vague question for those who have played the game on hard.

What are your impressions about the difficulty on hardmode?

I did 3 playthroughs of Origins(Xbox 360), on Normal, each one being successively easer(as one would expect:lol:).

I want to try DA2 on hardmode.

So, how badly should I expect my ass to get kicked on hardmode, considering I never played it in Origins?

I play on HARD. Tried on Normal, felt a bit too easy, now after getting to level 5-6 even HARD is beginning to be a bit easy. Its not TOO easy as some people may start to cry, its different.
Regular mobs on HARD in DA2 are managable very well, gives you a reason to actually use your abilities and your companions abilities when it matters and take advantage of potions and upgrades. Now BOSSES on hard, well, I killed my first dragon and it was sort hard, yeah . When you play on hard you eventually get to a point when your health potion is on cooldwon and made already used your healing spell, so the only way to live is to switch to tank and kite the boss around a bit until you can use potion again or healing spell.
BOSSes hit quite hard on hard difficulty, so I ended up losing tank right before boss was downed, but that sacrifice was worth it. And its not like your character is dead forever .
I LOVE new spell effects and animations. LOVE new ability animations. LOVE new DX11 graphics. I play with 4x AA and 16xAF on 19201x1200 but no vertical sync, so some tearing sometimes, but overall no biggy. I don't want to turn graphics down and use Verical Sync. Its not that much important to me since tearing doesn't happen all that often. Voice overs are good. Expressions and lip sync especially are very well done. I didn't notice it much really in DAO but lipsync in DAO was out of sync sometimes.
So yeah, I recommend to play on HARD, otherwise if you play on normal or easy you just won't have a chance of using any aid game gives you, potions won't matter and skills will be way too powerful.
I hope I'll manage to finish the game before Bioware releases any 'balance' patches. because right now on hard difficulty its PERFECT for me. Bosses present very good challenge and other mobs are a good combat as well. I want to use potions not to COLLECT them in my bags and why want my spells and abilities to matter. On higher difficulty combat is more strategic, you actually pay attention instead of sitting in chair and watch your female Hawke shake her boozoms. I play hawke mail btw, with original face preset, added blood on his nose though.
WOOT! This game rocks! VERY worthy sequel to a great RPG. LOVE IT IMMENSLY!