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[SteveGarbage]

Update: Not fixed as of 1.02. Still looking for official support from BioWare on this one.

[TallBearNC]

PhysX is completely an Nvidia product, but for ATI vid card users, Physx will run on most any modern CPU

Modifié par TallBearNC, 12 avril 2011 - 10:12 .

[TallBearNC]

SteveGarbage wrote...



Here are my specific system specs:
MSI K7N2 Delta motherboard
Amd Athlon XP 2700+ processor (single core, yes, I realize it is below the minimum requirements)
2.5 GB RAM
ATI Radeon 4650 (1GB)
Windows XP Professional 32-bit SP3

Multiple trouble-shooting efforts were made during the demo run (see that thread for more details on all the crazy crap I attempted to do) to no avail. People in that thread have a couple prime suspects as to why this error persists, either:
A) It is some sort of conflict with AGP video cards running on our older-type systems
or It is a SSE2 error due to the Athlon XP processor, which has presented in other games such as Borderlands.

I've had this game pre-ordered since the day it was announced and am completely unable to use it on my computer. Other people from the demo thread have shown interest in the game but will not be purchasing it because of this error.

We're open to novel solutions to this problem, otherwise we're hoping for some immediate support from the BioWare side. I'm also currently in the process of going through the official support channels with EA to try to seek a solution to this problem.

Thank you for your time. I, and others affected by this crippling error, await a speedy resolution to the issue.

An AGP card? Those things are ANCIENT. You should be running only a PCI-E video card... and that's a fairly old CPU... your hardware is just be too out of date for this game. I have no clue why you'd be trying to run DA2 on that old/outdated of a system.

TBH I don't think nvidia or BW needs to do anything to fix that... and as you said.. your system is BELOW min specs for the game. So why did you even bother to order it? I don't mean to sound harsh but it's true.

This is also not up to BW to fix this (if someone does decide to fix this). This is an issue with the Physx libraries from nvidia not supporting your hardware. If nvidia chooses to update it, then great.

Only other way would be if BW released a patch that disabled physx 100% in game, and that may be more difficult than it sounds.

And again, TBH, if I were a gaming company, I would tell you that your hardware is just too old and you need at least a new CPU/Mobo to run the game.

Modifié par TallBearNC, 12 avril 2011 - 10:16 .

[BTCentral]

As already mentioned a CPU with SSE2+ capabilities is required for the PhysX library used by the game.
Your CPU only supports SSE1 which is well below system requirements (the minimum CPUs listed both support SSE3).

I doubt BioWare will fix this considering the fact that your CPU is well below system requirements, I could be wrong of course but honestly in my opinion the most realistic resolution to the issue is upgrading your computer.

Modifié par BTCentral, 12 avril 2011 - 10:35 .

[TallBearNC]

BTCentral wrote...

As already mentioned an SSE2+ CPU is required for the PhysX library used by the game.

Your CPU only supports SSE1 and is well below system requirements - I highly doubt BioWare are going to be doing anything to fix this - I honestly think the only realistic way to resolve your issue is upgrading your computer.

Aye, correct. He needs a new CPU and mobo, I'd put down $1000 nvidia and BW won't do thing...

IMO the OP should have never bought the game. Especially knowing his system was BELOW min reqs. 

[SteveGarbage]

Well considering every other game has worked with no issue, I didn't think it would be much of a problem. It's not like I ever expect to run everything at a billion frames per second. And if it were so simple as going out and getting a new computer, believe me, I would.

This isn't a difficult fix for someone who knows what they're doing and BioWare COULD do something to alleviate it. If the DA2 .exe calls for the PhysX 2.8.4 package, it would be as simple as making a hotfix that would call an older, non-SSE2 package, namely 2.8.3 if that truly is the problem (which I'm about 99 percent sure at this point that it is). Considering that other developers have done it when similar problems arose, it's not at all impossible.

Minimum requirements are hardly minimum at all. This computer has admirably run both Origins and Mass Effect 2 (the later even at nearly maximum graphical settings) with relatively no issue. I'm sure it could run Dragon Age 2 if it would actually boot into the game proper, which it can't because it gets hung up on the PhysX error.

But if any of you helpful folks would like to send donations to the new computer fund for me and everyone else in the demo thread who has an old Athlon XP processor, I'm sure we'll appreciate it. I'll send you my PayPal address and you can wire over a nice chunk of cash to help out with that.

[Allanon86]

You can be sarcastic as you want, words don't make you able to play the game.

Modifié par Allanon86, 15 avril 2011 - 09:32 .

[TallBearNC]

SteveGarbage wrote...

Well considering every other game has worked with no issue, I didn't think it would be much of a problem. It's not like I ever expect to run everything at a billion frames per second. And if it were so simple as going out and getting a new computer, believe me, I would.

This isn't a difficult fix for someone who knows what they're doing and BioWare COULD do something to alleviate it. If the DA2 .exe calls for the PhysX 2.8.4 package, it would be as simple as making a hotfix that would call an older, non-SSE2 package, namely 2.8.3 if that truly is the problem (which I'm about 99 percent sure at this point that it is). Considering that other developers have done it when similar problems arose, it's not at all impossible.

Minimum requirements are hardly minimum at all. This computer has admirably run both Origins and Mass Effect 2 (the later even at nearly maximum graphical settings) with relatively no issue. I'm sure it could run Dragon Age 2 if it would actually boot into the game proper, which it can't because it gets hung up on the PhysX error.

But if any of you helpful folks would like to send donations to the new computer fund for me and everyone else in the demo thread who has an old Athlon XP processor, I'm sure we'll appreciate it. I'll send you my PayPal address and you can wire over a nice chunk of cash to help out with that.

I realize that not everyone can just go out and buy a new computer or upgrade theirs.

My point is, at some point, developers stop supporting older hardware. There might very well be a good reason why the came CAN NOT use older PhysX Libraries. It may make API calls that REQUIRE the latest version of PhysX.

Anytime you buy/pre order a game, when your specs are below minimum, you run the risk of the game not running at all.

A lot of older machines ARE capable of playing many modern games when some of the options are turned down, but like I said, once they add new features that require newer API calls, if your old hardware doesn't support it, then you are SOL

Unfortunately for you, DA2 is the start of a "new breed" of games, and IMO, if you don't upgrade your computer in the next 1-2 yrs, you will find that you will be unable to even start most modern games.

Ages ago, I used to buy a new cheap to moderate PC every 3 yrs... Now, it's about every 5-7 years. Once every 5-7 years I buy a TOP of the line gaming machine (usually costs me 5K-6K without the monitor), but that type of system can even last 7+ yrs as long as you keep the GPU and system RAM upgraded

Even a brand new, bottom of the barrel, PC would be enough for you to get the game started. You could buy a bare bones system from dell, etc for like $400 without a monitor

Summary:

* This is NOT a problem EA *has* to fix... nor do I think they should. It's a lot more complicated of a fix than you think, and their time is better spend fixing existing bugs and adding new content to the game

* ME2 uses the Unreal Enginee where DAO and DA2 use a different engine. Plus ME2 is a DX9 game where DA2 is a DX 9, 10, and 11 game, and ME2 is OLDER than DA2

* If you can't upgrade you PC, then I'd recommend playing the game on a 360 or PS3 if you have one. TBH, with your older system, and your budget, gaming for you would best be done on a console. $300 for the console, and it lasts 5 yrs. Normally PC games look and play better vs consoles, but in your case, a nice PS3 would do much better.

[TallBearNC]

It looks like BW may fix this in 1.03 after all... read this post.. it's on page 1 near the bottom of the original post:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/300/index/7048387

Unfortuantely 1.03 could be 30-45 days away

[SteveGarbage]

TallBearNC wrote...

It looks like BW may fix this in 1.03 after all... read this post.. it's on page 1 near the bottom of the original post:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/300/index/7048387

Unfortuantely 1.03 could be 30-45 days away

Maybe, however that made the list because I posted in there a bit snarky like and it was added. At least it's nice to see that its under consideration.

I'm a PC gamer first and foremost. Never felt the want to buy a PS3 or XBOX360 since I don't really care for any of the offerings. I've parted out a new PC for about $275 that will get me at least into the 64-bit age and would have room to grow in the future. I'm working on it, but it's slow going.