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[Haexpane]

Amioran wrote...

Haexpane wrote...

See that is the divide right there.  Many RPG fans do not consider inventory management "Hassling" and we don't consider "streamlined" to be "better" because we don't believe the boring videogame RPG stories are "more important" than the gameplay.

Judging things without context is never the best thing.

Haexpane wrote...
"Streamlined" is business speak for cutting features.  We do this all the time at my company.  We tell users things are being "unified, streamlined, globalized" when the reality is we are just dumbing down the applications to be less customized and more out of the box.  We get rid of the "convoluted comlicated options that are not truly value"  so they can "focus on the core business tasks at hand"

Having more options is not always the best thing, either for complex applications. If you can do thing faster with less gimmicky then I don't see how that's a wrong thing. But maybe you are one of the little loners that thing that Borland C++ is better than Visual C++.

Haexpane wrote...
It's 100% spin

No, it's not. It's 100% spin for you just because you voluntarily focus only on a part of it, discarding the rest. In this way what you think "matters" is always the 100%. A shame that things are not so simple...

Haexpane wrote...
This pleases less interested users, but users who are more "into" the application are bummed out.

While I replied to you on those points I still don't get how this should have to do either minimally with the GS review. It seems like you just want to post your opinions of the game, but this thread is NOT about your opinion, but the one given by GS.

Are you done chopping up my reply and e-bragging about your knowledge of code? 

I've QUOTED the GS review,   your rant is moot.

[DA Trap Star]

LenaMarie wrote...

Everyone with even a half functioning brain knows EA is behind Biowares new direction of dumbing down for console users, The worst thing bioware ever did was get Souled-out to EA.

I don't know how can you they dumbed it down for Console users, since Console users don't like the changes either. Whatever their purpose was for dumbing it down, it failed.

[Haexpane]

miltos33 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Combat would have probably been ok, had they not forgotten to put the Autoattack option in (speaking of console versions here).

Hammering X once a second, really not my idea of fun.

I guess they did it on purpose to make sure that unlike on the pc something awesome always happens on the console versions.

  [edited out random code]


"Press X to have something baddassssss happen!" Maybe
I'll bring that suggestion to the next design meeting for our business
applications.  Why have all these fancy options to "hassle" with when you can press one button and sit back and enjoy the AWESOME BADDASSSSS!ness :innocent:

Modifié par Haexpane, 08 mars 2011 - 07:43 .

[AkiKishi]

Duncaaaaaan wrote...

F this. I'm gonna buy KOTOR 2 for xbox.

£5 preowned. Its everything veteran bioware fans would want. Huge story, massive amount of dialogue, no effort on the graphics, and the tactical pause and play. Shame its not in a fantasy setting, but hey thats what BG2 and Neverwinter nights is for.

The end is missing, but before that it's realy good.

LA made Obsidian cut a bunch of stuff because it was too dark in nature or somthing.

[SorrowAndJoy7]

Sabiancym wrote...

The fact that you guys jump all over me for posting this proves the level of fanboism here.

You ever think that people aren't mad because it's a good not great review... but instead the fact that you act like anybody who likes the game more than a 8/10 has an invalid opinion not based on the game? That isn't fanboism pissing people off, it's not an amazing urge to defend bioware at all costs, it's the fact that you're s***ing all over everybodies elses opinions.

[Amioran]

Haexpane wrote...

Are you done chopping up my reply and e-bragging about your knowledge of code? 

I've QUOTED the GS review,   your rant is moot.

Are you sure? Didn't see it, in fact. For what I see you are only bragging about what you think about the game (I would make you notice that there's already a thread for it, just so you know).

However good reply. You talk about programming as that should be "evidence" of something and yet when someone rebuke destroying your "evidence" using the same means then you get irritated. Never heard the quote "He who lives by the sword dies by the sword"?

[Haexpane]

Amioran wrote...
 

Yes, yes. Again, we are talking here about GS, not YOU.

Are you done trolling me yet?  I am discussing the GS review.  Not that I have to answer to you.  /reply to someone else instead of me if you don't like my posts.  I won't mind.

[Rotlex]

Really hoping anyone on the fence doesn't read these threads and get discouraged from buying the game. My favorites of old from Bioware include the Original BG, all expansions all the way through Origins. Been playing DA2 for a bit now, and am thoroughly enjoying it. But, then again, I loved ME2 as well. I'm not normally one to post, or complain, but I really am wondering what all the negativity is from.

Great game so far........

[Top Gun volleyball]

Cons listed by Gamespot:

Multiple elements have been inexplicably simplified over the original

Obviously, to say the least. Dumbed down RPG much?

Combat is much less tactical

Think like a general my ass. Hack n' slash combat dumbed down for the console tards. A final **** you to PC gamers everywhere on behalf of BioWare.

Not quite the wonder its predecessor was

This is why DA 2 will ultimately be remembered as failure. The point of sequels is too improve on the predecessor, not deliver us some half assed rush job to milk the cash cow.

[whisperchill]

yea because the reviews of gamespot are so right --->bulletstorm got also an 8 and that game was like 5 hours of gameplay and very repetitive...

[Haexpane]

Amioran wrote...

Haexpane wrote...

Are you done chopping up my reply and e-bragging about your knowledge of code? 

I've QUOTED the GS review,   your rant is moot.

Are you sure? Didn't see it, in fact. For what I see you are only bragging about what you think about the game (I would make you notice that there's already a thread for it, just so you know).

However good reply. You talk about programming as that should be "evidence" of something and yet when someone rebuke destroying your "evidence" using the same means then you get irritated. Never heard the quote "He who lives by the sword dies by the sword"?

wrong again troll.  I talked about DESIGN not programming.  Now are you done attacking me?  Take it to PMs because you're off topic trolling again.

[Josef bugman3]

You can shove this "spiritual successor" gumf where the sun shineth not. I am getting absolutely sick of hearing how a game HAS to be a spiritual succesor to a past game in order to be any good.

[Top Gun volleyball]

Rotlex wrote...

Really hoping anyone on the fence doesn't read these threads and get discouraged from buying the game. My favorites of old from Bioware include the Original BG, all expansions all the way through Origins. Been playing DA2 for a bit now, and am thoroughly enjoying it. But, then again, I loved ME2 as well. I'm not normally one to post, or complain, but I really am wondering what all the negativity is from.

Great game so far........

You wouldn't know a quality RPG if it snuck up behind you and served up surprise buttsecks. BioWare has made some very good RPGs. DA 2 is not one of them. BioWare is not the gold standard in RPGs anymore.

[Amioran]

Haexpane wrote...

Amioran wrote...
 

Yes, yes. Again, we are talking here about GS, not YOU.

Are you done trolling me yet?  I am discussing the GS review.  Not that I have to answer to you.  /reply to someone else instead of me if you don't like my posts.  I won't mind.

If you don't want to discuss with others or if you want to play the "insulted by other words"'s part then I suggest you to just create a page with your opinions somewhere. That way you are always right and nobody will ever reply to you.

I just replied to what you said. If that makes you so angry I don't know why you are here.

[Bigdoser]

Honestly I can't see why people see 8/10 as something bad? I wonder what is happening with gamers these days if a game does not get a 9 or a 10 it failed? eeer wut?

Modifié par Bigdoser, 08 mars 2011 - 07:50 .

[Haexpane]

Top Gun volleyball wrote...

 

Think like a general my ass. Hack n' slash combat dumbed down for the console tards. A final **** you to PC gamers everywhere on behalf of BioWare.

Not quite the wonder its predecessor was

 .

Please don't blame console player>  I play on consoles and PC,  as a 95% console player I DID NOT WANT anything stripped down or dumbed down.  The more reasonable complexity the better.

My favorite RPGs of all time are Vagrant Story, Baldur's Gate 2 and Everquest1.  3 huge beastly complex and difficult games.

In fact Demon's Souls was console only and 10x more complicated than most PC action RPGs.  

There is a MYTH that console gamers are dumb and want simple.   The truth is console gamers are very diverse, not all of us want Mass Effect 2 engine reskinned w/ dragaons and bloody badd asssses

[ManiacalEvil]

The reasons they downmarked are the reason I love this game.

[Haexpane]

Josef bugman3 wrote...

You can shove this "spiritual successor" gumf where the sun shineth not. I am getting absolutely sick of hearing how a game HAS to be a spiritual succesor to a past game in order to be any good.

Umm Bioware are the ones who called it "spiritual successor"  but now you blame the fans?

[Amioran]

Haexpane wrote...
wrong again troll.  I talked about DESIGN not programming.  Now are you done attacking me?  Take it to PMs because you're off topic trolling again.

In fact I spoke about Borland and Visual because that's a problem of DESIGNING, not programming.

Why are you so angry? I didn't insult you or nothing, I just rebuked your arguments.

Bah, whatever.

[HoonDing]

BDF detected in Gamespot's user reviews:

Graphics are awesome with full support of DX 11.A new and addictive story.
Better combat.Main character has voice acting.You can import saves from origins.Dont listen to Gamespot.

[Capt.Dave]

Top Gun volleyball wrote...

Cons listed by Gamespot:

Multiple elements have been inexplicably simplified over the original

Obviously, to say the least. Dumbed down RPG much?

Combat is much less tactical

Think like a general my ass. Hack n' slash combat dumbed down for the console tards. A final **** you to PC gamers everywhere on behalf of BioWare.

Not quite the wonder its predecessor was

This is why DA 2 will ultimately be remembered as failure. The point of sequels is too improve on the predecessor, not deliver us some half assed rush job to milk the cash cow.

Do you own the game? If not stfu I enjoyed origins very much for what it was DA 2 is very much the game as origins on PC except for the UI,AMAZING DX11 GRAPHICS,AWESOME COMBAT,LESS INVENTORY CLUTTER,

BOTH GAMES ARE GOOD BUT YOU PEOPLE ARE ****ING RETARDED!

[efrgfhnm_]

You're calling gamespot honest? They fired one of their longtime chief editors because he ignored the bribe money from the developers of Kane & Lynch, which resulted in several of their senior staff leaving. This is simply an opinion, no more or less honest then the other reviews

[Haexpane]

Amioran wrote...

Haexpane wrote...

Amioran wrote...
 

Yes, yes. Again, we are talking here about GS, not YOU.

Are you done trolling me yet?  I am discussing the GS review.  Not that I have to answer to you.  /reply to someone else instead of me if you don't like my posts.  I won't mind.

If you don't want to discuss with others or if you want to play the "insulted by other words"'s part then I suggest you to just create a page with your opinions somewhere. That way you are always right and nobody will ever reply to you.

I just replied to what you said. If that makes you so angry I don't know why you are here.

Are you this annoying in real life?  You went off on this "little loner" dig bit that was totally unrelated to anything I was posting about.  You CONTINUALLY reply to my messages.

I'm asking you again, reply to someone else's posts, you obviously don't like mine.  And now you are accusing me of being "angry" .   You're hitting all the troll touchstones.

Are you done yet?  You have no right to tell anyone where they can post.  Quite frankly, you are coming off as a bit stalker-ish.  It's boring.

[Rotlex]

Top Gun volleyball wrote...

Rotlex wrote...

Really hoping anyone on the fence doesn't read these threads and get discouraged from buying the game. My favorites of old from Bioware include the Original BG, all expansions all the way through Origins. Been playing DA2 for a bit now, and am thoroughly enjoying it. But, then again, I loved ME2 as well. I'm not normally one to post, or complain, but I really am wondering what all the negativity is from.

Great game so far........

You wouldn't know a quality RPG if it snuck up behind you and served up surprise buttsecks. BioWare has made some very good RPGs. DA 2 is not one of them. BioWare is not the gold standard in RPGs anymore.

LOL, OK Gomer, whatever you say.......   And this, ladies and gentlemen, are why many no longer post on gaming forums. 

Modifié par Rotlex, 08 mars 2011 - 07:54 .