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[Lulia]

Hello.

I really enjoyed the game, loved it in fact, and can appreciate how amazing it is... however after finishing the game, i am feeling pretty frustrated with the ending.

The fact that i enjoyed it so much until the end actually makes the frustration more like an over whelming gut wrenching disappointment.

The way it ends is just so spectacularly flat and does in no way reflect the huge task completed, the strong relationships that have been formed and the prospect of the story being continued.

I played a female human noble and pursued Alistair to the point of being his queen and had all of the allies including Shale being friendly.

At the end i get an unaffectionate pat on the back from Alistair, a range of indifferent comments from my best buddies, the reappearance of my brother like he just popped out to the shops and then ushered out into the street.

Then to add insult to injury an update on the progression of the story based on my actions in the form of some cheapo typed paragraphs which don't relate very well, if at all, to the decisions i made throughout.

For example, i said i'd stay with Alistair but then i was informed he went off to some god forsaken place on grey warden business (and there i was thinking i was a grey warden too) yet i was left at home indefinately to look after his kingdom...?

For example, i picked a dwarf king to create peace and he died...

Alistair will no doubt either need rescuing or more likely die... Orzammar will no doubt need saving from itself...

I can't help but feel that the text paragraphs at the end are what they
wanted it to end like, to form the basis of the sequel from and all
that free choice throughout the game was just an illusion.

I much preferred how they did Mass Effect which in comparison was a little more restrictive but the choices made will be able to be reflected better in Mass Effect 2.

At the end of Mass Effect i "knew" that the basis of the sequel will represent my choices in the first, not be the result of some forced random events.

Meh.

I know this is a bit of a rant and i apologise - i'm just feeling rather frustrated and would like to know what everyone else thought about how the game ended and how well they think it will relate to the sequel.

[Flamin Jesus]

If you want a more teary-eyed ending, tell Morrigan to get lost and throw yourself at the Archdemon...



Anyway, the ending-paragraphs are pretty bugged (The entire ending, in fact), but the paragraphs do reflect your choices, things work out differently for the dwarves if you choose Bhelen or preserve the Anvil of the void, for example.



It's true that most of the effects from your choices are merely cosmetic, on the other hand, that's even worse in ME and not likely to change in the near future.

[BomimoDK]

3 or 4 words, my ending was entirely different, at first allistair wanted to smack my teeth in for making him king, then i reassured him that i would stay with him, and now were best buddies. no dwarf king died, but morrigans got my kid, which i don't give a **** about, cuz the chances of that haunting me in a later game... woops, are pretty high... well yeah, replay the game, get a better ending, i was satisfied that i meant something to allistair, not to mention leliana smiling at my jokes and Wynne as my mentor.

[Walina]

Well, I don't needto end the game to be frustrated because : my mage can't finish with Alistair.

1) She can't become his queen because she is not noble.
2) Alistair has to cheat her if he want to survive.

So, I am going to throw her to the archedemon and refuse Alistair romance.

Modifié par Walina, 15 novembre 2009 - 07:21 .

[Flamin Jesus]

It's not cheating if you tell him to do it.

[Red Viking]

All in all, I thought it was a good ending, but it did feel like something was missing. That said, I loved the playable epilogue part.

[Nibblesthebunny]

I was more frustrated that there wasn't anything after that. For that character, at least.



I want to play moreee complaincomplain Q_Q also alistair

[Nibblesthebunny]

Walina wrote...

Well, I don't needto end the game to be frustrated because : my mage can't finish with Alistair.

1) She can't become his queen because she is not noble.
2) Alistair has to cheat her if he want to survive.

So, I am going to throw her to the archedemon and refuse Alistair romance.

Don't worry, just look at his face when the deed is done and you'll know how he feels about it. It's a very emotional scene, convincing him, as well. ~_~

[CptKyleBuddha]

Well one of the only things I have to complain about is I set up a romance with Lilliana and

work on it all game and in the end yes she comes with you but one of those paragraphs at the end say that the two of us are together for a time at least.



I would rather be allowed to make that decision in the sequal than already know they arent together anymore.

[Paxsis]

Flamin Jesus wrote...

If you want a more teary-eyed ending, tell Morrigan to get lost and throw yourself at the Archdemon...

I thought most people would do this, especially the nobles. Alas, I was terribly wrong...

[Skellimancer]

Can someone explain how shagging morrigan helps you/Alistair to not die?



(not finished the game yet)

[Flamin Jesus]

Skellimancer wrote...

Can someone explain how shagging morrigan helps you/Alistair to not die?

(not finished the game yet)

Wouldn't you prefer to find out yourself?

Anyway:

She's offering to perform a ritual to catch the old god's soul in an embryo, as opposed to travelling into the Warden who strikes the killing blow, which would destroy both the Warden's and the Demon's soul.

[Skellimancer]

Flamin Jesus wrote...

Skellimancer wrote...

Can someone explain how shagging morrigan helps you/Alistair to not die?

(not finished the game yet)

Wouldn't you prefer to find out yourself?

Anyway:

She's offering to perform a ritual to catch the old god's soul in an embryo, as opposed to travelling into the Warden who strikes the killing blow, which would destroy both the Warden's and the Demon's soul.

Thank you.

[Red Viking]

CptKyleBuddha wrote...

Well one of the only things I have to complain about is I set up a romance with Lilliana and
work on it all game and in the end yes she comes with you but one of those paragraphs at the end say that the two of us are together for a time at least.

I would rather be allowed to make that decision in the sequal than already know they arent together anymore.

Yeah, I don't know if it was just the wording, but if you settle down immediately, it's implied she breaks up with you but if you go traveling togeather, it's implied that the two of you remain a couple.

[Grovermancer]

I agree with the OP; the grandiose, epic scope of the story deserves such a HUGE ending, something FAR beyond what I've gotten so far with 2 play-throughs.



Almost seemed like it was tacked on as an afterthought, almost like it was rushed or something.



A sweeping mythic epic story like this deserves a tremendous, legendary ending... Not the ho-hum cliched after-thought of a scene that I've gotten twice now.

[Draco_13]

Red Viking wrote...

CptKyleBuddha wrote...

Well one of the only things I have to complain about is I set up a romance with Lilliana and
work on it all game and in the end yes she comes with you but one of those paragraphs at the end say that the two of us are together for a time at least.

I would rather be allowed to make that decision in the sequal than already know they arent together anymore.

Yeah, I don't know if it was just the wording, but if you settle down immediately, it's implied she breaks up with you but if you go traveling togeather, it's implied that the two of you remain a couple.

This might be related to how you treat Leliana. If you convince her to accept her bard history she says that she would like to travel around when the mission is over and you have the opportunity to say that you would like to accompany her. So if you finaly decide to settle down that might be the reason for her to leave after a while.

Even one sentence can make a difference ...

[MiyaMun]

Actually, there was one paragraph at my ending that did NOT pertain to my choices. I, too, played a human noble female who fell in love with Alistair. She, too, was to be Queen alongside him. And, yet, one of the end paragraphs stated that Alistair went off to wherever to spend time with his lover... much to the disappointment of QUEEN ANORA.



Oh, well.. I'll not let the ending paragraphs dent my love for the game

[KnightofPhoenix]

Eh, my ending was really sad and I loved it.

But yea apparently the ending paragraphs are buged.



Some here can't get the ring ending with Morrigan. I can't get the paragraphs about my companions.

[KyoZ]

Yeah the only things I got about my companions was that Morrigan up and left with my child towards the mountains to the west feeling sorrow and regret, and also that none of the companions saw each other again.



I think my main disappointment was that I wanted to know more about what happens to this child, but by the way they worded it, I guess they intend to elaborate on it in the future. Well, I can hope, atleast.

[MandatoryDenial1]

Grovermancer wrote...

I agree with the OP; the grandiose, epic scope of the story deserves such a HUGE ending, something FAR beyond what I've gotten so far with 2 play-throughs.

Almost seemed like it was tacked on as an afterthought, almost like it was rushed or something.

A sweeping mythic epic story like this deserves a tremendous, legendary ending... Not the ho-hum cliched after-thought of a scene that I've gotten twice now.

I liked my character's ending quite a bit.  I knew going in once Alistair/Morrigan had abandoned me that things weren't going to go well.  I also was quite resolute with the feeling that this was going to be a suicide mission.  I wasn't disappointed.  The scenes that happen afterwards were in my opinion perfect. 

I think the reason so many people didn't like the ending was that it wasn't goodified.  It really wasn't happy nor did the ending go out of their way to sugar coat things either.  Yes the blight was stopped but it was stopped at an absolutely horrendous cost.  People died, were ruined, exiled, cities fell, the structure of society was shook to its foundations, and more than one crown is perilously unstable with no one in the wings waiting to provide the leadership that would unite the people.

 This game didn't try to be cheap to a happy ending.  Its one of the reasons I really liked it and I can't wait to play a real nasty assassin now to see what comes next.

[Vadavim]

It wasn't so much that I was expecting a happy ending... I just wanted closure. I felt like the story kind of slowed down to a standstill during the Final Battle. It was just killkillkill, then kill the dragon... the end. Something just didn't feel right, and I suspect a lot of what's missing will be filled in when they do a sequel.

[MassEffect762]

I haven't beaten the game but I'm not surprised by the "lack luster" ending routine either, bioware just leaving space for a new cast of characters.



Knowing the ending is a let down to quite a few folks on these forums I plan on milking the game and using my imagination when the inevitable let down arrives.

[Red Viking]

Draco_13 wrote...

Red Viking wrote...

CptKyleBuddha wrote...

Well one of the only things I have to complain about is I set up a romance with Lilliana and
work on it all game and in the end yes she comes with you but one of those paragraphs at the end say that the two of us are together for a time at least.

I would rather be allowed to make that decision in the sequal than already know they arent together anymore.

Yeah, I don't know if it was just the wording, but if you settle down immediately, it's implied she breaks up with you but if you go traveling togeather, it's implied that the two of you remain a couple.

This might be related to how you treat Leliana. If you convince her to accept her bard history she says that she would like to travel around when the mission is over and you have the opportunity to say that you would like to accompany her. So if you finaly decide to settle down that might be the reason for her to leave after a while.

Even one sentence can make a difference ...

I don't think it's that.  I had her remain the way she was and those two endings were still the same.  I think it has more to do with the type of person Leliana is.  Whether she goes back to the person she used to be or not, she always struck me as someone who wanted to see the world.

MandatoryDenial1 wrote...
This game didn't try to be cheap to
a happy ending.  Its one of the reasons I really liked it and I can't
wait to play a real nasty assassin now to see what comes next.

I liked this approach too.  I still felt like there was something missing, but I knew that all the happy endings I got resulted from my efforts.  This game really makes you work for your happy ending and I can live with that.

[stryderjzw]

I have a question about the epilogue... I thought there was mention of a playable epilogue? Is that just the ending when you talk to your companions + the ending paragraphs?

[KyoZ]

Yeah, also you can load the autosave file that the epilogue creates, to be able to continue playing the DLC. Can't go anywhere other than the DLC places though, unfortunately. Allowed me to do Shale's dungeon though.