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#201
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Twaddlefish wrote...

Lehanna wrote...

Ten to one the user reviews are RPG Codex trolls who should have been put out to pasture when Troika closed.


What, you mean they prefer their games buggy and unfinished? I'm looking at you, Bloodlines.


Masquerade is still one of the best RPGs out there, even if it was unfinished when it initially released, I don't know what version I played but it was fine and quite bug-free.

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People want this game to be bad, I've no idea why, I guess they built it up so much in their heads over the past few years and at some point they decided they'd have more fun tearing it down for not being to the ridiculous standards they built up in expectation.

Honestly, get the game and play it yourself. For me its had a good start, the only part thats bothered me in the slighest is that I've not got to a part in the story yet where I'm absolutely enthralled to continue playing. But I'm hoping that'll come as I get further into the main quest


Peoples' expectations are so high because of the precedent set with Origins. But after playing it myself I don't understand where the hate is coming from. Sure, some things were better in Origins, but some things are better in the sequel, and all in all compared to most games on the market it's great.

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DonniexxDarko wrote...

RJPOGI wrote...

bioware i bought all of your RPG's since BG2 to ME2, and after all the love i gave you this is what I get in return? do you hate us PC gamers?


Is not just PC gamers that are disappointed with this - you think all console gamers love spamming 'a' and think that's a brilliant 'RPG' experience?

Why are bioware heading in this direction, of taking out features, masquerading it as "streamlining" then releasing it as a "fully improved" sequel?

It goes against the very gaming nature of what sequels entail - they are supposed to get richer in features and gameplay, not dumbed down by every passing game.

From a very disappointed console gamer.


im talking about bad controls, bad UI, nerfed camera on the PC side. good to hear more console players also not liking the game though

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RJPOGI wrote...

DonniexxDarko wrote...

RJPOGI wrote...

bioware i bought all of your RPG's since BG2 to ME2, and after all the love i gave you this is what I get in return? do you hate us PC gamers?


Is not just PC gamers that are disappointed with this - you think all console gamers love spamming 'a' and think that's a brilliant 'RPG' experience?

Why are bioware heading in this direction, of taking out features, masquerading it as "streamlining" then releasing it as a "fully improved" sequel?

It goes against the very gaming nature of what sequels entail - they are supposed to get richer in features and gameplay, not dumbed down by every passing game.

From a very disappointed console gamer.


im talking about bad controls, bad UI, nerfed camera on the PC side. good to hear more console players also not liking the game though


Why is good? You like to see other people fail is that it? You like to see people loosing their jobs because a manager or director mande a bad call?
The game is what it is. Deal with it and stop rooting for everyone to have the same opinion as yours. opinions are like ****s, everyone has one.

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brunomalta wrote...

RJPOGI wrote...

DonniexxDarko wrote...

RJPOGI wrote...

bioware i bought all of your RPG's since BG2 to ME2, and after all the love i gave you this is what I get in return? do you hate us PC gamers?


Is not just PC gamers that are disappointed with this - you think all console gamers love spamming 'a' and think that's a brilliant 'RPG' experience?

Why are bioware heading in this direction, of taking out features, masquerading it as "streamlining" then releasing it as a "fully improved" sequel?

It goes against the very gaming nature of what sequels entail - they are supposed to get richer in features and gameplay, not dumbed down by every passing game.

From a very disappointed console gamer.


im talking about bad controls, bad UI, nerfed camera on the PC side. good to hear more console players also not liking the game though


Why is good? You like to see other people fail is that it? You like to see people loosing their jobs because a manager or director mande a bad call?
The game is what it is. Deal with it and stop rooting for everyone to have the same opinion as yours. opinions are like ****s, everyone has one.


what i meant was it's good to hear that even console players are not having a great time with the game compared with most PC gamers not liking the game, due to the fact the game was "dumbed down" technically. lol u mad? what's with the cursing? are you trying to prove something with that? you're not gonna win arguements with that my friend

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RJPOGI wrote...

brunomalta wrote...

RJPOGI wrote...

DonniexxDarko wrote...

RJPOGI wrote...

bioware i bought all of your RPG's since BG2 to ME2, and after all the love i gave you this is what I get in return? do you hate us PC gamers?


Is not just PC gamers that are disappointed with this - you think all console gamers love spamming 'a' and think that's a brilliant 'RPG' experience?

Why are bioware heading in this direction, of taking out features, masquerading it as "streamlining" then releasing it as a "fully improved" sequel?

It goes against the very gaming nature of what sequels entail - they are supposed to get richer in features and gameplay, not dumbed down by every passing game.

From a very disappointed console gamer.


im talking about bad controls, bad UI, nerfed camera on the PC side. good to hear more console players also not liking the game though


Why is good? You like to see other people fail is that it? You like to see people loosing their jobs because a manager or director mande a bad call?
The game is what it is. Deal with it and stop rooting for everyone to have the same opinion as yours. opinions are like ****s, everyone has one.


what i meant was it's good to hear that even console players are not having a great time with the game compared with most PC gamers not liking the game, due to the fact the game was "dumbed down" technically. lol u mad? what's with the cursing? are you trying to prove something with that? you're not gonna win arguements with that my friend


Sorry about the cursing really. :innocent:

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brunomalta wrote...

RJPOGI wrote...

DonniexxDarko wrote...

RJPOGI wrote...

bioware i bought all of your RPG's since BG2 to ME2, and after all the love i gave you this is what I get in return? do you hate us PC gamers?


Is not just PC gamers that are disappointed with this - you think all console gamers love spamming 'a' and think that's a brilliant 'RPG' experience?

Why are bioware heading in this direction, of taking out features, masquerading it as "streamlining" then releasing it as a "fully improved" sequel?

It goes against the very gaming nature of what sequels entail - they are supposed to get richer in features and gameplay, not dumbed down by every passing game.

From a very disappointed console gamer.


im talking about bad controls, bad UI, nerfed camera on the PC side. good to hear more console players also not liking the game though


Why is good? You like to see other people fail is that it? You like to see people loosing their jobs because a manager or director mande a bad call?
The game is what it is. Deal with it and stop rooting for everyone to have the same opinion as yours. opinions are like ****s, everyone has one.


im just saying even some console gamers did not like the streamlining

Modifié par RJPOGI, 09 mars 2011 - 02:44 .


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Gamespot gave it an 8. AN EIGHT!!!!

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Ok, I am NOT saying there are no troll ratings (I have no clue) but honestly, if someone has not been on the boards and loved DAO, I can see the reaction being, "What on earth is this? This is so different. Ugh!" Just because someone is upset about the changes and was hoping for another game closer to DAO so gives a poor score does NOT make them a troll.

It really may be hard for people to believe, but some people are NOT going to like the changes. They're not going to like the new combat system, the dialog wheel, the inability to talk to companions while out and about, the lack of interaction like with the kids in Lothering. And they're going to rate the game badly because of that.

It's something that happens when you change your target audience mid-series. I'm sure DA2 is a great game. But it is DIFFERENT! And that is not going to be universally well received.

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Miths wrote...

What kind of nonsense is that? You aren't seriously quoting the user review average as the Metacritic score, are you?


Wait, isn't that the same score folks use for ME2 when they want to say how "real" players love the game and the forum is just full of vitrol.  Now the score is low for a game and it isn't a valid score any longer?

/shrug  No matter what side of an argument someone is on they always credit/discredit whatever fits their view.

Personally  I don't find Metacritic to be any better of a measurement than regular gaming site review scores (which I don't put any faith in either).

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As far as reviews goes I think it really depends on who wrote them. I myself usually read reviews on gamespot since I found their taste is very similar to mine

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Remember the Warden's talk with Wynne during the celebration. That people love to praise new heroes and their deeds but will even more so love to bring them down. This is what has happend with BIOWARE, first the critic praise them now they have to mandatory bring them down. Vaulters that is what people are.

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Omg the internet is seriously f*cked up: Who wishes for a troll genocide?

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Rockpopple wrote...

Sakanade wrote...

I stand corrected, Metacritic has dropped to

4.4/10


How disingenuous of you. Those are User scores. In other words, the most rage-filled individuals with the most time on their hands raging on the interwebs.

Metacritics CRITICAL review score is 85/100 out of 10 reviews. Oh, but that doesn't fit your narrative. Carry on.


You mad bro? Don't get your fanboy panties in a bunch.

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GameSpot's awkward review of "Dragon Age II"...
http://www.gamespot....tle/review.html

The Good
~ Player choice manifests itself in interesting ways  
~ Spectacular writing and voice acting bring each character to life  
~ Fascinating world characterized by moral ambiguity  
~ Combat is fun, fast-paced, and colorful  
~ Great symphonic soundtrack.

The Bad
~ Main story lacks focus and drive  
~ Multiple elements have been inexplicably simplified over the original  
~ Combat is much less tactical.

The Ratings
~ Game Spot Rating (8.0)
~ Critics Rating (8.4)
~ Player's Rating (7.4)

"The characters that join you on your journey aren't as memorable as those of the original Dragon Age. Alistair and Morrigan, among others, had vivid personalities that made it easy to immediately identify with them. " ~ GameStop

"The downside is that these characters are sometimes so subtle that they lack the lasting impact of their Dragon Age: Origins counterparts." ~ GameStop

"Many textures are shockingly low-resolution, and the art design is as lacking in vivid color as its precursor." ~ GameStop

"In certain key ways, Dragon Age 2 is a step back." ~ GameStop

"Sometimes, your choices don't have gameplay consequences at all and amount to smoke and mirrors, giving the illusion of choice but nothing more. This is perfectly reasonable for the most part, given that such dialogue choices allow you to role-play, even when they carry no further weight. " ~ GameStop

"A few blasts from the past that you encounter not only establish emotional and thematic ties to the first game, but confirm how memorable its characters were in comparison." ~ GameStop

"The dwarf Varric is amusing, but Oghren made for a stronger dwarven presence in DA:O. Merrill's brogue and occasional social awkwardness make for some charming interactions, but she isn't as delightful as the original's Leliana." ~ GameStop

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So, why the hell do I want to play this game? Its an inferor product compared to "Dragon Age: Origins", so I will hold off until something more interesting arrives. Maybe Skyrim. I don't know.

Modifié par Deadmac, 09 mars 2011 - 03:38 .


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ejoslin wrote...

Ok, I am NOT saying there are no troll ratings (I have no clue) but honestly, if someone has not been on the boards and loved DAO, I can see the reaction being, "What on earth is this? This is so different. Ugh!" Just because someone is upset about the changes and was hoping for another game closer to DAO so gives a poor score does NOT make them a troll.

It really may be hard for people to believe, but some people are NOT going to like the changes. They're not going to like the new combat system, the dialog wheel, the inability to talk to companions while out and about, the lack of interaction like with the kids in Lothering. And they're going to rate the game badly because of that.

It's something that happens when you change your target audience mid-series. I'm sure DA2 is a great game. But it is DIFFERENT! And that is not going to be universally well received.


You talk against a Wall. You are a Troll if you say something like that and a hater and you cant life with changes! :) 
Its common sence that everyone dont likes DA2 is clueless Troll never played the game and just made an accound to rate bad because they have nothing better to do.
On the other hand you have those 10/10 peoples and those give a 100% accurate review :)

Modifié par Mantaal, 09 mars 2011 - 03:17 .


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I was glad to see GameTrailers give it a 9.2. I almost always agree with their reviews, they do a good job.

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Sereaph502 wrote...

Notice how most people posting in this thread don't even have DA2 registered on their accounts?

Yeah, it means they either only played the demo (which is only a single section of the game. GASP! You mean one single part of the demo isn't what the entire game is going to be?) or are just trolls looking to get some attention.

Nothing else to say, really.


It could also mean that they didnt have to register their game wink wink. Do you even know that someone leaked all the versions days before the release?

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Mantaal wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Ok, I am NOT saying there are no troll ratings (I have no clue) but honestly, if someone has not been on the boards and loved DAO, I can see the reaction being, "What on earth is this? This is so different. Ugh!" Just because someone is upset about the changes and was hoping for another game closer to DAO so gives a poor score does NOT make them a troll.

It really may be hard for people to believe, but some people are NOT going to like the changes. They're not going to like the new combat system, the dialog wheel, the inability to talk to companions while out and about, the lack of interaction like with the kids in Lothering. And they're going to rate the game badly because of that.

It's something that happens when you change your target audience mid-series. I'm sure DA2 is a great game. But it is DIFFERENT! And that is not going to be universally well received.


You talk against a Wall. You are a Troll if you say something like that and a hater and you cant life with changes! :) 
Its common sence that everyone dont likes DA2 is clueless Troll never played the game and just made an accound to rate bad because they have nothing better to do.
On the other hand you have those 10/10 peoples and those give a 100% accurate review :)


I can't tell if you're being facetious or not.....

(either way, your post is bordering on uninteligible)

Modifié par JoePilot, 09 mars 2011 - 04:05 .


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A lot of the reviews out there can't seem to get past the fact that Dragon Age 2 is a different game in it's own right and not Dragon Age: Origins 2.

This one however does not, and I completely agree with the majority of what is said, a very fair review.

Modifié par BTCentral, 09 mars 2011 - 04:19 .


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BTCentral wrote...

A lot of the reviews out there can't seem to get past the fact that Dragon Age 2 is a different game in it's own right and not Dragon Age: Origins 2.

This one however does not, and I completely agree with the majority of what is said, a very fair review.


If they didn't want to a game to be compared ot the original
Then they shouldn't have made a sequel.

This game is universally inferior to DA:O.

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don't expect to get any useful information from the user's reviews everywhere (even if it seems to me that the Gamespot ones are a bit more balanced - in general, not only for DA2). People just click on 1s or 10s, usually just for fun or for trolling.

The professional reviews have more or less a consensus towards the 8/8.5 out of 10, which I think it's believable: a good game, not a masterpiece, slightly less interesting than its predecessor.

I'll wait a couple of months or so before buying it, to avoid the bugs.

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Dragon Age 2 PC page on metacritc, is unavailable from many many hours....

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17thknight wrote...

BTCentral wrote...

A lot of the reviews out there can't seem to get past the fact that Dragon Age 2 is a different game in it's own right and not Dragon Age: Origins 2.

This one however does not, and I completely agree with the majority of what is said, a very fair review.


If they didn't want to a game to be compared ot the original
Then they shouldn't have made a sequel.

This game is universally inferior to DA:O.

Just because it's in the same series, doesn't mean it has to follow the same story, or have the same features - some sort of overall theme, sure but it doesn't mean they have to continue the first game...

And no, it's not univerally inferior at all. Have you even played the game, or are you just hating?

Siegfried.m wrote...

Dragon Age 2 PC page on metacritc, is unavailable from many many hours....

Odd, works fine for me.

Currently has 84/100 based on 12 reviews. Highest score is PC Gamer with 94, lowest is IncGamers with 72.

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http://www.jeuxvideo...pc-00003898.htm

If you understand french a little bit, take a look at this video, showing the problem with tactics.
That's awful...