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[Dudefella]

Sat down this weekend hoping to get some DA2 playtime in, only to find the game is totally unplayable. Core i5 2500K and an nVIDIA GTX 570 OC. Framerate is always below 10 in DX11 mode when set to very high, rarely goes above 30 when on high. The only way I can play this game is on DX9 mode, which to me is completely unacceptable considering the system I have, the same system which can run games like Crysis and Metro 2033 practically maxed out.

Did BioWare do any testing on this game at all? This issue was present in the demo, and BioWare said they were aware of this. Why hasn't this been fixed yet? Lowering settings is not a solution, the visual quality of DA2 does not warrant such a low framerate.

What a joke. This needs to be fixed. Fast.

[Hilsin]

UPPDATE:

http://social.biowar...0/index/6497075

[7uong]

Hilsin wrote...

UPPDATE:

http://social.biowar...0/index/6497075

hmm took a look on the beta archives from the offical nvidia site, and ur version doesnt seem to be there.

i tried out that driver and there is no changes to da2, i still get same framerate as the previous beta drivers listed here on this forum.

Modifié par 7uong, 12 mars 2011 - 03:42 .

[Hilsin]

7uong wrote...

Hilsin wrote...

UPPDATE:

http://social.biowar...0/index/6497075

hmm took a look on the beta archives from the offical nvidia site, and ur version doesnt seem to be there

Nope.

It's an Alpha Beta driver from my friends on Guru3d. Also a pre ( non release ) beta driver. 
Works 100% so far.

[7uong]

maybe im wrong, lets see if other getting the same results

[Gorath Alpha]

MortalEngines wrote...

Case: Cooler master haf 912 plus
CPU: Intel Core I7 950 3.07GHz
RAM: 6GB
OS: Windows 7 64x bit
Graphics Card: ATI HD Sapphire 6870 (1GB)
Memory: 1TB
Moniter: iiyama 21' LED 
PSU: 600W

The drivers I installed didn't help.

(This is with High Textures, but even without high textures it lags on Very High). 

WHICH drivers were those that didn't help?  11.4? 

[foxz0rd]

I could play the game on DX11 with everything on Max perfectly, until i downloaded and installed the HD Texture Patch, after that my Game wont start with DX11 anymore.
I tried previous Ati drivers and the beta Driver 11.4 and nothing seems to be working -.-

my Specs:
Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit
4Gb Ram
Ati Radeon HD 5770
Intel 2Core e8400

Modifié par foxz0rd, 12 mars 2011 - 04:04 .

[zeroxunlimit]

Black_Baron01 wrote...

zeroxunlimit wrote...

Nvidia driver: 267.31
Graphic card: 580gtx SLI
Resolution: 1900x1200
Graphical Detail: Very high
AA: none
AF: 16x
vync: on
Hi-res texture: on
DX11: on

60fps every zone. this is with dx11 and on nvidia beta driver. only time it even drop is if i try to turn on AA. i think the game currently just buggy with AA on dx11. whenever i try turning AA on even at 2x it would drop to like 30-60ish. i mean dx11 AA shoudn't be as demanding as dx9 right? so i'm in conclusion the AA just isn't optimize for dx11 in the game at the moment. So if u want to play dx11 with smooth framerate at max setting just turn off AA.

That's odd... besides the fact, that you got a SLI-system, it seems a little doubtful... I tried that and the only thing giving me higher fps in DX11 is to turn settings just on high... which I do at the moment, because I figured it's good to have sharper textures, but the tesselation, DOF and blur things aren't worth the huge fps-drop. Furhermore "very high" is very demanding on my GPU and seems to lead to slight instability (other than I thought and wrote in my prior posting I got one lockup again on "very high"-settings).

I think I also tried AA-settings, they seem to cause the least fps-drop on my system.

Maybe you're lucky, or maybe it's linked to more than the display-drivers... what are your other specs? Please also mention your chipset/mobo.

You made me curious

maybe i am lucky well here is my system spec. all i know is that i'm running the game on very high at 60fps seriously i'm not lying

i7 980 oc 4.0ghz
12 gig ram running at 2000mhz
mobo is asus rampage III formula
raid 0 ssd 120gig
window 7 64 bit
need any other spec do ask. o yea nivida got this transparency AA option in their control panel too from what i notice it pack quite a performance hit when u put it supersample 4x +  i put that on mutisample. i do notice that supersample on transparency AA does make game look better but from my experience it make the game kinda jumpy even if the framerate is like 60+ which is y i put it on mutisample.

Modifié par zeroxunlimit, 12 mars 2011 - 04:32 .

[ReplicantZero]

Installing Nvidia's latest WHQL drivers (266.58) certainly fixed all freezing/crashing issues for me. Before the game was freezing and crashing in the intro cutscenes every time - now have been playing for hours in DX11 with no slowdowns, freezes or crashes.

First time I've had to update to the latest video drivers just to make a game work (my previous drivers were about a year old but were the latest from the laptop manufacturer), but was worth it imo.

Edit: only odd thing is that the game occasionally starts in windowed mode even though set to full-screen.

System specs: Intel Core i3 CPU, 4G RAM, Nvidia Geforce 330M with 1G VRAM.OS: Windows 7 64-bit SP1.

Modifié par ReplicantZero, 12 mars 2011 - 04:53 .

[TheImmortalBeaver]

I'm not entirely sure as I didn't have time to run a proper benchmark, but with the 1.1 beta patch I seemed to be getting a substantial improvement to framerate on the DX10 setting, High. If somebody else could double check this, I'd appreciate it. I wonder if it had something to do with that odd error that would pop up every time about a non-existent drive.

[Nirvana_Dest]

I have to say I am really annoyed that the graphics running DX11 at the very high setting with an nVida GTX 470 on a 3.33 ghz Core II duo with 8 gigs of memory and Vista 64 bit OS is down right crap!

When I pan a certain way the whole display breaks up into dakr gray and black polygons.

Yes, I have the latest driver set from nVidia.  I am apalled at how crummyn  the whole thing looks when compared to DA: Origens. 

Aftyer playing Origens for over a year with 27 play throughs and the seeing this, I feel I've wasted 60 bucks.

I have set my vid options back to DirectX 9 and medium and it actually looks as good as Origins.

Bottom line, how do you release a game that uses DirectX 11 that will not run with any vid card and virtually any system ?

I wish I could run my auto repair business the same way you do and not go to jail !

[tallthunder]

Okay so I am going to build a p.c. that can run this game on DX11 very high- any suggestions. Has to be below $1300

Thanks!

[vania z]

tallthunder, we should see patch first. Right now, you can buy any cheap amd card and you will be ok.

[LordFess]

Last night came home from work and installed the beta patch....Hooray it fixed the no cd in the drive error mssg that I got when using DX11...... So I then set everything to MAX using DX11 and was averaging 30-40 FPS ...... I started to experience black square shadow distortions in the top left hand corner of the screen so I changed the settings from very high to high and the shadow distortions went away ...... almost yay..........

  Now the game freezes every 20 to 30 min and I have to ctrl-alt-del and shut the game down and restart...... Man I hope you guys get this mess fixed soon cuz I am really luvin this game!!!! I think I will again revert back to DX9 until you have a patch for DA2 and Nvidia has whole Q drivers that correct these issues....

Modifié par LordFess, 12 mars 2011 - 05:50 .

[Snarf0159]

Hi i hav a geforce 9800gt graphics card, never had a problem to play any game that are dx 10. But I can NOT access the direct 11 options for high and very high settings. Can anyone give me a solution pls?

Modifié par Snarf0159, 12 mars 2011 - 05:50 .

[foil-]

Snarf0159 wrote...

Hi i hav a geforce 9800gt graphics card, never had a problem to play any game that are dx 10. But I can NOT access the direct 11 options for high and very high settings. Can anyone give me a solution pls?

The 9800gt only supports DX10.  It is too old to support DX11 which is fairly new and only supported by cards about 1.5 years old or newer.

[Gorath Alpha]

Snarf0159 wrote...

Hi i hav a geforce 9800gt graphics card, never had a problem to play any game that are dx 10. But I can NOT access the direct 11 options for high and very high settings. Can anyone give me a solution pls?

You cannot reach the "Very High" settings, which are strictly Dx11, and nVIDIA waited until their Fermis, just a year ago now, before they got around to Dx11.  For this game's better quality Renderer settings, which are labelled "Dx11", and then High Settings, you must be running Vista or Windows 7.  There are a couple of unofficial routes to adding Dx10 to Windows XP, but no "approved" route.

[BanditGR]

In case this hasn't been posted (didn't check all the pages in the thread), there is already a big topic about this, in the Nvidia Driver forums. The thing is, the game uses HDAO (High Definition Ambient Occlusion) as opposed to HDBO (Horizon Based Ambient Occlusion). HDAO performs very well on AMD Hardware, HBAO performs very well on nVidia hardware, and reasonably well on AMD hardware. Bioware should have chosen HBAO as it would suit both architectures (albeit the nVidia slightly more). Why they chose the other option is beyond me (well, not really, since there was definitely a clear partnership with AMD on this one, for promotional purposes I guess).

All in all, don't beat your card up, it's the game, not the card. PCGamesHardware.de benchmarked the game (http://www.pcgamesha...Adventure/Test/) and a good old 5850 is basically crushing all of the nVidia cards, despite being an inferior card, hardware wise. This is wrong on so many levels. Unless Bioware and nVidia choose to address this fast, no amount of toying with settings is going to make a significant difference (at least at the cost of image quality), depending on hardware of course. As has been stated though, it's not that much of a big deal, since most of those visual differences are at times, difficult to spot (that does not mean, a performance fix isn't required).

[Gorath Alpha]

Better ask why is nVIDIA determined to undermine their cards' performance in this game?

[Moondoggie]

xnoxiousx wrote...

Or bioware optimzation 

If that were the case all cards would be having the same problem. Nvidia will get a driver out that works with this game eventually i'm sure.

[rabidelfman]

Nirvana_Dest wrote...

I have to say I am really annoyed that the graphics running DX11 at the very high setting with an nVida GTX 470 on a 3.33 ghz Core II duo with 8 gigs of memory and Vista 64 bit OS is down right crap!

When I pan a certain way the whole display breaks up into dakr gray and black polygons.

Yes, I have the latest driver set from nVidia.  I am apalled at how crummyn  the whole thing looks when compared to DA: Origens. 

Aftyer playing Origens for over a year with 27 play throughs and the seeing this, I feel I've wasted 60 bucks.

I have set my vid options back to DirectX 9 and medium and it actually looks as good as Origins.

Bottom line, how do you release a game that uses DirectX 11 that will not run with any vid card and virtually any system ?

I wish I could run my auto repair business the same way you do and not go to jail !

To be fair, your CPU is seriously bottlenecking your video card.  Upgrade your CPU and you'll see a performance increase, especially when it actually starts working for NV GPUs.  Even then, if you still have your Core2Duo, it'll still be bottlenecked and run poorly.

[JamesX]

Moondoggie wrote...

xnoxiousx wrote...

Or bioware optimzation 

If that were the case all cards would be having the same problem. Nvidia will get a driver out that works with this game eventually i'm sure.

Actually xnoxiousx is correct.  The game is not optimized for Nvidia the way it is for ATI.  Nvidia cards haev lower performance across the board in Dragon Age 2.

Video cards these days are pretty different.  Eventhough directX suppose to make it all the same, it does not.  Optimization have some dramatic difference in performance.  Drivers only help so much, but if a game engine isn't coded correctly no amount of driver updates will make that much of a difference.

I am incline to think that the problem maybe both.  Dragon Age 2 engine might be coded for ATI and not as well done for Nvidia, and Nvidia driver might have some error in the tessellation effects.  Because that seems the major performance killer.  I can run the game 70+ fps but as soon as I turn on DirectX11 (which adds Tessellation) no amount of adjusting of settings will get me over 28 fps (even with the beta driver)