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#826
Gorath Alpha

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Find that card here:

http://www.notebookc...ards.130.0.html

According to this, you have a four year old design in there (8800, which went through its renamed stage as the 9800, and then again, as the GTS 160m), so by now it's quite long in the tooth:

http://www.notebookc...0M.14561.0.html

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I see v267.24 drivers are available for my GTX 470. I might get brave today and try them, but since it's working so beautifully now (in DX9 and my current .ini editings) I might just leave the whole thing well enough alone.

It was a noticeable difference after forcing the game to go into 'diffusion on', SSAO enabled, blur, etc, etc, so I can't be anymore satisfied.  The GraphicDetail=2 thing helped the most noticeably, although switching from DX11 down to DX9 never "broke" my game experience like others had to endure.

Will post here if the new BETA drivers help any (if I get the stones to try it!).

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Oh, and it seems like NVIDIA has at least improved the "fresh driver" installation process. It went through all kinds of "Removing old drivers and getting rid of support files...Please wait..." that I don't remember ever seeing in the past, like it was doing more to remove the old driver files. Is it still necessary to do all that other stuff manually (forcing a "fresh install" the previous way mentioned)? Just curious. Because this time, it took much longer to update video drivers and it seemed to do a much more thorough job of getting rid of of the old stuff.

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I tested the 267.59 drivers on my GTX 470. The performance was improved, it was playable. But not what i expect it to be. It did drop under 30 fps on the first battle. 1920 x 1080, 16x AF 0xAA
I should have no problems with this game with no AA since i can run Metro 2033 fine on max except AA in dx11. And it crashed my computer after a few minutes. I think i will just wait for official driver release and a patch. Hopefully things will work then. If not, i think i will be a bit dissapointed. Though max on DX9 looks more than good enough for an enjoyable experience.

But i don't mind the wait, i got Shogun 2 total war to keep me occupied for the next 2 weeks or so.

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I have to play this game in everything on low this is the ridiculous for a new game I have high end computer with GTX 580 and I cant even use direct x 11 cause of major graphic bugs and glitches.

Edit: the glitches are back game is unplayable on all settings.

Modifié par Zorky.be, 16 mars 2011 - 02:17 .


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is there anything else that the Very High setting turns on besides tesselation, because i can just turn on diffusionDOF and Quality Blur in the settings file in notepad and get better frame rates with the high setting.

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Kayden SiNafey wrote...

LordFess wrote...

Thanks for you response...... One question though ....When I check DX9 the menu only offers medium settings... How do I  choose DX9 with Very High Settings?

Thanks for you help!


Well I was using my exp with the demo cause DX11 like garbage on it and I could run high with dx9. Somthing must have changed from demo to release, maybe thats the "fix" they were saying was going to be put in the release ver.

Come to think of it I just checked the launcher and it allows you to select the HIGH and VH settings even though you have DX9 selected. This proves at least the launcher is forcing modes to be enabled that shouldn't be. I went in game and found you can only do Med like you said with DX9.

I would give DX11 on High a try though see if you get above 32fps, keep AA, AF & Vsync though. I would also try turning off High Quality Blur and Diffusion Depth of Field, if it isn't above 32fps these are DX11 specific and carry a very high cost in FPS. If that doesn't do it give the new driver and INF hack a try. The few ppl who have posted have said it has helped a lot on lower end cards.


Well, good morning folks!!! Well Kayden I have good news!!! Last night I changed my game settings from DX9 medium to DX10 High.....with every turned that can be turned on and pushed to the max including AA......I am happy to report that my game play was VERY smooth NO studdering as alot of folks report on here (actually I have never had any stuttering at all even when I was using very high settings).

My FPS took a slight hit from a steady 60+ to an average 50-55 FPS never dipping below 45 FPS...... And woohoo NO game freezes (knock on wood)either. I played for about 2 to 3 hours through the Deep Roads and beyond running around Kirkwall .....and everything was awesome!!! I am using the latest Whole Q drivers from Nvidia.... My screen rez is 1900x1200. 

So..... I think I will sit tight until Bioware releases a patch to address DX11 and Nvidia releases new Whole Q drivers...

Modifié par LordFess, 16 mars 2011 - 04:09 .


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The AMD driver note says it addresses this issue for 5800 series cards, but I'm having the issue with a 4800 series card. Driver did not fix the issue for me I just tried it.

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I have tried to play Dragon Age 2, and everytime it starts okay; the splash screen and so on starts, but when it gets to the point, "Hit any key" it locks up the computer.  I cannot get control of my computer even through the Task manager.  I was unable to get the DEMO to work either, and I installed all the latest drivers for the graphics card and peripherals. Is there something I need to do before running the game? I have over 2 GIGs available RAM because I have literally shut all the other programs off.  I never had problems with Dragon Age Origins.

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Using SLI GTS 450s, the new driver (267.59 WHQL) Greatly increased my framerates. I'm playing smoothly on Very High, no Screen Space Ambient Occlusion (Yet, it is too sporadic. Fast gameplay, and then major slow downs randomly), or Diffusional Depth of Field, but High Quality Blur on and High Res Textures and it is running smoothly most of the time, then it will suddenly face slow downs for no apparent reasons, but it is very playable. Modding the INF on this driver may help you. I think Nvidia has done a great part for me, now it is just time for the Dragon Age 2 Programmers to do their part and I will be able to enjoy this great game fully.

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#836
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Willhen50 wrote...

I have tried to play Dragon Age 2, and
everytime it starts okay; the splash screen and so on starts, but when
it gets to the point, "Hit any key" it locks up the computer. 

You are complaining in the wrong thread. You need to be in the one about failing to launch. You haven't gotten far enough to know whether you have a Dx10 / Dx11 problem.

However, you should pay attention to system requirements. DA2 demands more than DAO did.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 16 mars 2011 - 04:20 .


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I have an ATI HD5850 with the 11.4 beta driver.
My rig has 2.8ghz quad core and 16mb ram.

Ever since I downloaded the beta driver, the game has worked beautifully on High. It's average framerate is 54-60. I have everything on with 2xAF and 4x AA. The game looks really good!

I'm curious if anyone with a similar setup is getting better performance. Also what are the graphical differences between high and very high? Very High drops the framerate down a lot for me(24-30 range).  I don't really see a visual difference other than low framerate.

Modifié par TheAxeMurderer7, 16 mars 2011 - 05:26 .


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Miriel Amarinth wrote...

Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...

How? What settings are you using. I'm still not able to use high without it going to 16fps.

Also does anyone know if 267.59 drivers work with the 450GTS?


Try the new 267.59 drivers. Many people have reported seeing improvements even in High (so with DX10), as well as with DX11. Since you have a GTS450 you don't even need to use any modified files, because the 267.59 drivers officially support both the 450 and the 550 cards:

You can download them here:
www.nvidia.co.uk/object/win7-winvista-64bit-267.59-whql-driver-uk.html

That's the UK/international install, because the US link seems to be broken.

PS: I posted a step-by-step how-to on how to upgrade to the 267.59 drivers and use the modified inf file here:
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/300/index/6571278/2#6584005

It's recommended to uninstall the old drivers first and run a driver cleaning tool to get rid of lingering files, before installing the new drivers. I've described how to do that as well in the guide above.


Thumbs up for those drivers! GTX 460 here, everything on maximum, performance is slightly better and FINALLY no game lock up occurred!

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Unfortunately upgrading to these latest nVidia drivers hasn't fixed my problem of frequent crashes when using the DX11 renderer.

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Well, I have GTX 570, i7 2600, 4Gb of 1600 RAM all installed on Asus P8P67 Mobo. I use 1920*1080 resolution with 4xAF 8xAA. With 266.58 drivers I had around 10 fps and a lot of missing textures on very high. Didn't measure it on high but it was clearly 30+. After upgrading to 267.24 drivers fps on very high went to 20-25. A lot better but still little annoying to be playable. On high it is comfortable 30-40 fps.
Side question: was anyone able to tell the difference between high and very high settings? Maybe I am blind but I wasn't able see it no matter how much I looked?

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chelseascum123 wrote...

Unfortunately upgrading to these latest nVidia drivers hasn't fixed my problem of frequent crashes when using the DX11 renderer.

System Specs? Have you overclocked your GPU? Do any other games crash?

LorDC wrote...

Well, I have GTX 570, i7 2600, 4Gb of 1600 RAM all installed on Asus P8P67 Mobo. I use 1920*1080 resolution with 4xAF 8xAA. With 266.58 drivers I had around 10 fps and a lot of missing textures on very high. Didn't measure it on high but it was clearly 30+. After upgrading to 267.24 drivers fps on very high went to 20-25. A lot better but still little annoying to be playable. On high it is comfortable 30-40 fps.

Have you considered trying 4x AA and 16x AF? I would have thought you would find that much better.

LorDC wrote...

Side question: was anyone able to tell the difference between high and very high settings? Maybe I am blind but I wasn't able see it no matter how much I looked?

Tessellation, soft shadows, advanced dynamic lighting, geometry displacement effects.

Modifié par BTCentral, 16 mars 2011 - 07:12 .


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BTCentral wrote...

LorDC wrote...

Well, I have GTX 570, i7 2600, 4Gb of 1600 RAM all installed on Asus P8P67 Mobo. I use 1920*1080 resolution with 4xAF 8xAA. With 266.58 drivers I had around 10 fps and a lot of missing textures on very high. Didn't measure it on high but it was clearly 30+. After upgrading to 267.24 drivers fps on very high went to 20-25. A lot better but still little annoying to be playable. On high it is comfortable 30-40 fps.

Have you considered trying 4x AA and 16x AF? I would have thought you would find that much better.

My mistake. I meant 4xAA 8xAF. But I played with it. Going from 0xAA 0xAF to 8xAA 16xAF makes around 5 fps difference.

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BTCentral wrote...

LorDC wrote...

Side question: was anyone able to tell the difference between high and very high settings? Maybe I am blind but I wasn't able see it no matter how much I looked?

Tessellation, soft shadows, advanced dynamic lighting, geometry displacement effects.


All those things are what is supposed to be noticeable......but  have you actually noticed the difference yourself.? I am with LorDC I just havn't seen any difference between High and Very High myself.....Oh well maybe I will when the patch comes out.

Modifié par LordFess, 16 mars 2011 - 07:30 .


#844
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LordFess wrote...

All those things are what is supposed to be noticeable......but  have you actually noticed the differance yourself.? I am with LorDC I just havn't seen any difference between High and Very High myself.....Oh well maybe I will when the patch comes out.

I currently only have a DX10 card (GeForce GTX 260), however my MSI GTX 460 Hawk should arrive tomorrow, so when I'm done overclocking it i'll let you know ;)

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Alright, I'm going to buy a new Graphics Card. It's probably time to upgrade anyway, my question is whats a good card that will run DX 11 and Very High Settings but isn't like.. more than say $100 :P It has to be under $150 :P

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Zack Ross wrote...

Alright, I'm going to buy a new Graphics Card. It's probably time to upgrade anyway, my question is whats a good card that will run DX 11 and Very High Settings but isn't like.. more than say $100 :P It has to be under $150 :P

Good DX11 card that'll play on Very High for under $150? I honestly doubt there is one.

Edit: Maybe this GPU comparision for DA2 will help, but honestly you're looking in more of the $200+ range.

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BTCentral wrote...

Good DX11 card that'll play on Very High for under $150? I honestly doubt there is one.

Agreed.  Here is a Radeon HD 5850 (Officially Recommended for Dx11) for $165 after rebate, plus $5 shipping:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814125318

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BTCentral wrote...

Zack Ross wrote...

Alright, I'm going to buy a new Graphics Card. It's probably time to upgrade anyway, my question is whats a good card that will run DX 11 and Very High Settings but isn't like.. more than say $100 :P It has to be under $150 :P

Good DX11 card that'll play on Very High for under $150? I honestly doubt there is one.


Depends on his tolerance for low framerates and what screen resolution he has, but yeah you'd be hard-pressed to get anything under 200 dollars that will run this game with DX11 and all the goodies on at smooth framerates on a larger resolution.

If 20-30 fps is fine by you, then maybe get a gts450, but if you want a decent DX11 gaming card you really need to step up the budget and get a GTX460 minimum. Unless the rest of your system is slow then you'll get the benefit from a better card in most games.

Most importantly make sure your PSU can handle the new card you get - I don't know what card you have atm and what PSU you're using, but some of the newer cards really draw quite a bit of power, especially compared to cards from the older series.

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Meh. Too much to hope for then :P I'll just get a DX 10 card and it should still run what I need. I just want something that'll run the game at Very High or High without any problems. I don't care about AA or any of the other fancy things :P

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Miriel Amarinth wrote...

If 20-30 fps is fine by you, then maybe get a gts450, but if you want a decent DX11 gaming card you really need to step up the budget and get a GTX460 minimum. Unless the rest of your system is slow then you'll get the benefit from a better card in most games.

Agreed, I'm hoping after overclocking I will be able to play at 30+ FPS on a MSI GTX 460 Hawk (they can go above stock 470 speeds when overclocked).

But for a card like that, you're looking at the $200 range.

Zack Ross wrote...

Meh. Too much to hope for then :P I'll just get a DX 10 card and it should still run what I need. I just want something that'll run the game at Very High or High without any problems. I don't care about AA or any of the other fancy things :P

Good idea - even my 2 year old overclocked GTX 260 plays at 30 to 60FPS using DX10 mode with 4x AA and 16x AF now thanks to the new 267.59 drivers.

Modifié par BTCentral, 16 mars 2011 - 07:51 .