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Yeah, I never us AA or all the other fancy AF things. I literally just run the game High Graphics and High Rez Textures. I don't care about the fancy little trimmings, so if I can do that with like this card www.bestbuy.com/site/EVGA+-+GeForce+GTS+450+FPB+1GB+GDDR5+PCI+Express+2.0+Graphics+Card/1700595.p

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Zack Ross wrote...

Yeah, I never us AA or all the other fancy AF things. I literally just run the game High Graphics and High Rez Textures. I don't care about the fancy little trimmings, so if I can do that with like this card www.bestbuy.com/site/EVGA+-+GeForce+GTS+450+FPB+1GB+GDDR5+PCI+Express+2.0+Graphics+Card/1700595.p

I don't have the benchmarks to back it up but for Direct X 10 that should be just fine as you're not worried about AA, AF, etc.

The problem with the GTS range is the lack of processor cores though.

Modifié par BTCentral, 16 mars 2011 - 08:11 .


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gts 450 is terribly slow. It is slower, than gts 250. It is completely worthless card, as is gtx 550 ti. It is better to buy gts 250 or gtx 460 768mb. 

Modifié par vania z, 16 mars 2011 - 08:02 .


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BTCentral wrote...

Zack Ross wrote...

Alright, I'm going to buy a new Graphics Card. It's probably time to upgrade anyway, my question is whats a good card that will run DX 11 and Very High Settings but isn't like.. more than say $100 :P It has to be under $150 :P

Good DX11 card that'll play on Very High for under $150? I honestly doubt there is one.

Edit: Maybe this GPU comparision for DA2 will help, but honestly you're looking in more of the $200+ range.

The only question remains: how they were able to get this extra 15-20 fps on gtx 570?

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use 267.59 drivers. I tried them, my performance is the same as in this test.

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Well I found I can get a 250 for like $144 brand new :P I'd have to order it online though. Literally anything close to $150 is pushing it but I can do it :P So I suppose that's my only option

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The performance on my 570 went up too with 267.59, but the frequency of game freezes increased.

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Zack Ross wrote...

Well I found I can get a 250 for like $144 brand new :P I'd have to order it online though. Literally anything close to $150 is pushing it but I can do it :P So I suppose that's my only option

Take a look at this instead - it's a "cut down" version of the GTX 460 (called the GTX 460 SE) but would give you much better performance, the extra 96 processor cores would definately help.

$149.99 with free shipping, $124.99 if you use the mail-in rebate offer.

You may be able to find it cheaper elsewhere, but if so no idea where - I don't live in the US so newegg is about the only US PC component retailer I know of ;)

Modifié par BTCentral, 16 mars 2011 - 08:17 .


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SE version. It has some sp's disabled.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127551 this one is ok.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127519 this one is also ok, but has less banwidth. If you have 1920x1080 display, it is better to go with first one.

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Mfw Dx11 runs 10 FPS slower on medium on my PC than Dx9

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Nice job BTCentral!

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I'm thinking of going with the one BT Central linked. I mean that would be the best idea in the long run. We're talking a lot of money for literally one game. My max display resolution is 1680 x 1050

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vania z wrote...

BTCentral
SE version. It has some sp's disabled.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127551 this one is ok.
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127519 this one is also ok, but has less banwidth. If you have 1920x1080 display, it is better to go with first one.

vania z, I know - the fact is Zack Ross stated $150 was the maximum he was willing to spend - so I was looking for a GPU within his budget ;)

Modifié par BTCentral, 16 mars 2011 - 08:20 .


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BTCentral then i suggest full version with 768 mb of memory:)

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So Vania you'd recommend the 768 mb one you linked? o.o I'm getting a bit... confused now.

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Zack Ross wrote...

So Vania you'd recommend the 768 mb one you linked? o.o I'm getting a bit... confused now.

Well, there's a trade off between the two.

The 1GB SE has more memory, and a better memory interface (256-bit), but less GPU cores.
The 768MB has less memory, and lesser memory interface (192-bit), but more GPU cores.

If you're looking for more memory, the card I originally linked is what you can afford
If you're looking for more processing power, this would be an excellent card.

If it were me, I would probably go for the latter with 768MB just because MSI is a much better GPU manufacturer and as you are playing at a 1680x1050 resolution you will not need as much memory as a system using say a 1920x1080 resolution. Another added bonus is it looks much better, and has a vastly superior cooling system, and will be quieter under load.

Edit: Despite BioWare saying that you need 1GB GPU RAM for the High Res texture pack, you don't - it runs perfectly on my 896MB card. No idea if 768MB would make much difference for it or not though as you're playing at a 1680x1050 resolution, I would have thought it should be OK.

As for getting confused, I can relate - there's so much choice in the GPU market now, it took me forever to decide on which GPU I was getting over the last couple of days.

Modifié par BTCentral, 16 mars 2011 - 08:48 .


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Last night I installed the 267.59 drivers and modded the inf myself. Worked like a charm! I'm running with:

DX11
High graphic setting
Hi-res texture pack
AAx4
AFx8
Vsync on
DoF on (via .ini)
Triple buffering on (via .ini)

Getting a consistent 30-45 fps (was getting 15-28 fps with released drivers for my card) on this rig:

EVGA 780i mobo
Intel Q6600 @ 3Ghz
MSI GTX275 1.8GB (stock)
8GB Patriot DDR2 (PC6400) + no page file

Anyone with a similar setup getting the same performance with these drivers?

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Zack Ross
memory is needed for high resolutions mostly. But well, da2 uses up to 1 gb with texture pack as I heard, so it may be better to buy se version with 1 gb.
If you are interested in rebate, http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814127551 that one is the best choice for your money.

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Zack Ross wrote...
 I'm getting a bit... confused now.

Easily done, your price point is one of the "sweet spots" manufacturors go for. You could also try an ATI 5770 card. Try this if you're in the US. [editid link]

Modifié par Ravenfeeder, 16 mars 2011 - 08:41 .


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5770 is rather slow. I don't really like amd myself, but one card that I consider good is hd 6950 - it has low tdp, rather good perormance and it is cheap.
http://www.techpower...rect_Cu/23.html
you can use other tests if you want, but almost everywhere 5770 is slower than any 460 card

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BTCentral wrote...
Agreed, I'm hoping after overclocking I will be able to play at 30+ FPS on a MSI GTX 460 Hawk (they can go above stock 470 speeds when overclocked).


When my old Zotac 9800GTX AMP edition died last december, I had to get a card fast to replace it. I only really had 150 euro's to spend on a replacement (hooray for unexpected hardware breakdown in the most expensive month of the year), but I wanted to get a card that was: 1. a significant upgrade to my old card in terms of performance, 2. a dx11 card and 3. an nvidia card.

That kind of limited my choices and I realized that what I wanted was hard to come by for 150 euro's. I could get a GTX460, but I wasn't really convinced by the performance of it compared to my old card - plus as you pointed out I soon realized there were 2 versions and it was a trade-off between memory and gpu power...when really I wanted both, rather than to sacrifce one or the other.

So in the end I scrounged together every nickel, dime and old candy-wrapper I could find and just got myself a GTX470 instead.

Ofcourse it was worth the money, hehe, but I'm dutch and a terrible cheapskate - so I spent a long time afterwards chanting to myself that it was a 'sensible investment'. XD

Modifié par Miriel Amarinth, 16 mars 2011 - 08:59 .


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Miriel Amarinth wrote...


Ofcourse it was worth the money, hehe, but I'm dutch and a terrible cheapskate - so I spent a long time afterwards chanting to myself that it was a 'sensible investment'. XD


So thats where that saying "going Dutch" comes from  LoL..... I tell you I am glad I don't have to hunt around for another video card for awhile!! Last November Dell replaced my 3&1/2 yr old XPS 630i with a brand spanking new Alienware Aurora with all the bells and whistles....It was in every way a complete upgrade from the XPS 630i. The old computer came with 8800 GT's in SLI  but I upgraded to an EVGA GTX 295 CooP that I really enjoyed. 

So now I have a like new EVGA GTX 295 CooP that I won't ever have any need for again..... Am thinkin about selling it.....

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LordFess wrote...
So thats where that saying "going Dutch" comes from  LoL.....


Hmm, I'm not familiar with that term, though I can guess what it means lol... Ah according to wikipedia it means everyone pays his own fees at a party or event. Yeah, that does happen sometimes, but by far not always. There's a more common phrase about the dutch "kijken, kijken, niet kopen" - litterally translated it's "look, look, but don't buy," because dutch tourists are famed for windowshopping without buying anything. :P

As for Dell, I take it they didn't replace your old machine for free? Or did it come with a 3+ year warranty? If so...damn! O_O

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Oh yes it was absolutely free!! The 4yr warranty on the old system moved to the new system and since there was not much time left on it I paid for a three yr extention... I mean this was fabulous deal beyond my wildest dreams!!!

Modifié par LordFess, 16 mars 2011 - 10:22 .