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#1251
Astatine

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Followed instructions from the thread linked further up ( http://bit.ly/ef43d1 for reference ) and got the 267.59 driver running. "New PC" now gets 42fps (same spot, same settings).

I've stopped freaking out now. :)

Argh @ Nvidia for taking their sweet time about releasing a properly supported driver with these fixes in!

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EDIT: Pointless post...

Modifié par MaxPayne37, 25 mars 2011 - 05:22 .


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Yep, I recommend anybody who has an nvidia card to download the latest 267 drivers with modded inf. It makes a ton of difference in FPS. I actually can play in full screen now on high without taking a massive framerate hit.  I have a GTX 285...I know it's a couple years old now but I knew it could handle this game on high with at least 4x AA and max AF silky smooth no problem.  <_<

Either Bioware and nvidia just weren't communicating at all or nvidia is just slow as hell in getting things done.

Modifié par criticalhitx, 25 mars 2011 - 07:36 .


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fastidiou5

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Hope ATI can get some decent drivers out...

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Throttling the core clock for my factory-overclocked card back down to reference specs seems to have done the trick for me on DX11. My Gigabyte GTX 570 ships overclocked @ 780 MHz, slowing it back down to 732 MHz works like a champ. I've been playing for several days now with no issues, all settings maxed out. Of course frame rates are better on High than Very High, but no more crashing to the desktop for me.

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Good tip. Thanks for that, black_lodge.

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Windows 7 HP
AMD Phenom XII X6 1090T
8GB RAM
AMD Radeon HD 6950 2GB

Installed the latest driver updates, etc etc...
When I click play I get the Bioware movie with the Dragon flying around, all fine... then I hear the music start with a black screen... and it crashes -_-
How do i fix this, because it makes no sense at all :S

Modifié par DagoMcDuck, 25 mars 2011 - 07:50 .


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Another thumbs up to throttling a stock OC'ed card (Sparkle Calibre GTX580 in my case) to standard speeds. Crashes to desktop when using DX11 went from every 0min-5min to 1 crash in 10 hours. It works... i just don't get why.

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Specs:

AMD Phenom II x4 965 Quad Core CPU (OC to 4.0)
ATI XFX HD 5870 1 GB GPU Card
4GB DDR 3
Win 7 x64

Playing in 1920x1080 with Very High Settings, High Res Texture Pack, 4x AA and everything else on

Using the latest 11.4 Preview driver from ATI

Im averaging about 30-35 fps.  When the action gets heavy it will go down to even 25 fps.  Which is very dissapointing because I have a mid-high level GPU and for me to get such low fps doesnt seem appropiate.  When the game dips below 35, its near unplayable. 

When I switch to HIGH settings, the game runs flawlessly and stays on 55-60 fps solid

So it seems to me that the dx11 settings are bugged because its almost double the framerate when I switch down to HIGH settings

Modifié par nyboy42, 26 mars 2011 - 07:06 .


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DarKRealm79

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Nice to see that my hint to slow down OC cards seems to work for many others as well. Now just Nvidia has to fix the drivers. :)

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Well I am using the latest 267.85 drivers inf modified to my GTX 560 SOC and the game runs at very high at 25-30FPS. Really low in my opinion. If I use High then it is at 28-35 which is better. I am starting to think that the game runs very bad in Nvidia cards and I dont have much hope in the future as 267.85 driver was out today.

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Can I just add to this thread a problem that I encountered trying to run in dx11, even though it may only affect a small percentage of people:

Some versions of 3rd party 3d drivers (iZ3d in my case, these are usually used with Amd/ATI cards) are incompatible with dx11 - if you use 3rd party 3d drivers, make sure you disable it before trying to launch the game using dx11, or you will just get a black screen.

Modifié par Epona222, 26 mars 2011 - 12:07 .


#1263
DagoMcDuck

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Epona222 wrote...

Can I just add to this thread a problem that I encountered trying to run in dx11, even though it may only affect a small percentage of people:

Some versions of 3rd party 3d drivers (iZ3d in my case, these are usually used with Amd/ATI cards) are incompatible with dx11 - if you use 3rd party 3d drivers, make sure you disable it before trying to launch the game using dx11, or you will just get a black screen.


Mmm.... and how would I disable that?

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DagoMcDuck wrote...

Epona222 wrote...

Can I just add to this thread a problem that I encountered trying to run in dx11, even though it may only affect a small percentage of people:

Some versions of 3rd party 3d drivers (iZ3d in my case, these are usually used with Amd/ATI cards) are incompatible with dx11 - if you use 3rd party 3d drivers, make sure you disable it before trying to launch the game using dx11, or you will just get a black screen.


Mmm.... and how would I disable that?


If you use iZ3d it is easy - open the iZ3d Control Center by either clicking on the icon in the taskbar or from your program menu (Start -> All Programs->iZ3d)), you will have a few options on the left hand menu panel  - select the DirectX option on the left, then click the "disable stereo" option.  Click the "Apply" button, then close the driver control panel.  

If you want to play other games in 3d you will need to open up that program again and change "disable stereo" to either "enable stereo", or "enable stereo by hot key" - but the driver needs to be completely inactive to be able to run a game in dx11 - at least the version I have, so you will need to switch it on and off using that method if you are switching between playing dx9 games (where the driver is providing 3d rendering) and dx11 games.

I imagine other drivers such as DDD have a similar method to disable them.

Edit: PLEASE NOTE: This is ONLY relevant if you have installed 3rd party drivers in order to play games in 3d (anaglyph 3d or stereoscopic shutter 3d with suitable monitor and glasses or some other method of 3d viewing) using ATI graphics cards.  If you've never played a game in 3d whilst wearing silly glasses then this probably doesn't apply to you.

Modifié par Epona222, 26 mars 2011 - 01:06 .


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DagoMcDuck

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Epona222 wrote...

DagoMcDuck wrote...

Epona222 wrote...

Can I just add to this thread a problem that I encountered trying to run in dx11, even though it may only affect a small percentage of people:

Some versions of 3rd party 3d drivers (iZ3d in my case, these are usually used with Amd/ATI cards) are incompatible with dx11 - if you use 3rd party 3d drivers, make sure you disable it before trying to launch the game using dx11, or you will just get a black screen.


Mmm.... and how would I disable that?


If you use iZ3d it is easy - open the iZ3d Control Center by either clicking on the icon in the taskbar or from your program menu (Start -> All Programs->iZ3d)), you will have a few options on the left hand menu panel  - select the DirectX option on the left, then click the "disable stereo" option.  Click the "Apply" button, then close the driver control panel.  

If you want to play other games in 3d you will need to open up that program again and change "disable stereo" to either "enable stereo", or "enable stereo by hot key" - but the driver needs to be completely inactive to be able to run a game in dx11 - at least the version I have, so you will need to switch it on and off using that method if you are switching between playing dx9 games (where the driver is providing 3d rendering) and dx11 games.

I imagine other drivers such as DDD have a similar method to disable them.

Edit: PLEASE NOTE: This is ONLY relevant if you have installed 3rd party drivers in order to play games in 3d (anaglyph 3d or stereoscopic shutter 3d with suitable monitor and glasses or some other method of 3d viewing) using ATI graphics cards.  If you've never played a game in 3d while wearing silly glasses then this probably doesn't apply to you.


My graphics card is an ATi Radeon HD 6950 2GB. It says I can do 3D stuff with it but I don't think it's the same?
I don't know a lot about this stuff xD

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DagoMcDuck wrote...

Epona222 wrote...

DagoMcDuck wrote...

Epona222 wrote...

Can I just add to this thread a problem that I encountered trying to run in dx11, even though it may only affect a small percentage of people:

Some versions of 3rd party 3d drivers (iZ3d in my case, these are usually used with Amd/ATI cards) are incompatible with dx11 - if you use 3rd party 3d drivers, make sure you disable it before trying to launch the game using dx11, or you will just get a black screen.


Mmm.... and how would I disable that?


If you use iZ3d it is easy - open the iZ3d Control Center by either clicking on the icon in the taskbar or from your program menu (Start -> All Programs->iZ3d)), you will have a few options on the left hand menu panel  - select the DirectX option on the left, then click the "disable stereo" option.  Click the "Apply" button, then close the driver control panel.  

If you want to play other games in 3d you will need to open up that program again and change "disable stereo" to either "enable stereo", or "enable stereo by hot key" - but the driver needs to be completely inactive to be able to run a game in dx11 - at least the version I have, so you will need to switch it on and off using that method if you are switching between playing dx9 games (where the driver is providing 3d rendering) and dx11 games.

I imagine other drivers such as DDD have a similar method to disable them.

Edit: PLEASE NOTE: This is ONLY relevant if you have installed 3rd party drivers in order to play games in 3d (anaglyph 3d or stereoscopic shutter 3d with suitable monitor and glasses or some other method of 3d viewing) using ATI graphics cards.  If you've never played a game in 3d while wearing silly glasses then this probably doesn't apply to you.


My graphics card is an ATi Radeon HD 6950 2GB. It says I can do 3D stuff with it but I don't think it's the same?
I don't know a lot about this stuff xD


No don't worry about it.  That just means your graphics card is 3d capable, but with ATI you need to download completely separate drivers to be able to play in 3d (with silly glasses) and you won't have downloaded them accidentally because AMD do not provide their own drivers for this - if you had set up your system for 3d by downloading 3rd party drivers (from iZ3d or DDD for example), you would remember doing it (because 3d gaming with ATI cards can be a bit of a pain to set up!)

If you don't know whether this advice applies to you, it's pretty much 99.9% certain that it doesn't apply to you!

Modifié par Epona222, 26 mars 2011 - 01:15 .


#1267
DagoMcDuck

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Sigh... too bad, was hoping for a solution xD
My pc exceeds all requirements, I had the game pre-ordered, it got checked and all but I won't get any further than the EA/Bioware dragon intro-movie -_- after that intro-movie I can hear 2 seconds of music (which I assume to be the back ground music of the menu screen) before DA2 crashes and my screen turns black -_- it would seem to me to be some sort of graphics card issue, since I dont have the "admin" problems or the "registration" problems... got the latest drivers (also the BETA ones that were linked on the forum) and doesnt matter if I play on low settings or very high or directx11 or directx9 or with some settings disabled or checked... I'm starting to get mad, crazy and sad :(
I just wanna play :'(

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nyboy42 wrote...
Which is very dissapointing because I have a mid-high level GPU and for me to get such low fps doesnt seem appropiate.  When the game dips below 35, its near unplayable. 

Me too. 

So, I decided to email ea "customer support" and voice my opinion of they're "barely working" product and got a lengthy but useless list of instructions to try.  And that was after I had already explained in my first sentence that I had gotten the game working decently by spending a few hours researching and trying a handful of non-supported hacks to get it working.

It really burns my bubble to get canned responses from so-called customer support people.  To further compound the frustration, it was in barely-intelligible broken English.  I asked that my "personal service rep" please pass along my letter to someone who understands how frustrating this is and took their "tech support survey" and suggested they get working on a patch, rather than foisting useless information on us paying customers who just paid triple what the game was worth to have to do all the work to get it fixed and working decenlty.

It's just sad that we pay good money, and get nothing.  Wait, and get nothing.  Complain, and get nothing.

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Can anyone confirm that downclocking cards back to the stock clocks stops games from crashing? I've had this issue ever since I switched from a 5870 to the 570 superclocked card I have now.

It's done it in ME2, Fallout 3 and Dragon Age 1 and 2. Crysis 2 seems to be fine so far. But the others crash to desktop (the xxx has stopped resonding) has been happening randomly. Some days it won't at all, other times it happens over and over.

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tylerman29

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Nah I have a Superclocked 480 and have had no crashing issues in any games.

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The problem im having is when my HAWKE is running all of a sudden the game freezes and then its saying "Dragon age 2 has stopped working." Can anyone help???

Modifié par Cyric1358, 26 mars 2011 - 05:49 .


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For the love of everything, this game needs to get fixed now! Damn game has crashed on me 12 recorded times (via Windows Action Center) and several more than that in reality (just crashed for the 3rd time in an hour tonight with only 1 log showing). This is un-****ing-believeable.

I'll try downclocking my cards, even though I've stability tested the hell out of them and never had problems from it in other games for the past year... here's hoping.

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 Specs:

Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 620 processor (2.6 GHz)
RAM: 6.00 GB
OS: Windows 7 (64-bit)
*Video: ATI Radeon HD 4200
*Display 1: 19" ACER PnP monitor
*Display 2: 32" Panasonic Viera 1080p TV (non-PnP)

Game: Downloaded Version

Problem:
About 30 seconds into the intro battle, my game crashes.
I'm running it on low quality just to be safe.

Before crashing, i'm getting frame rate problems on either monitor, when in full screen or window mode.
Frame Rate is approx 3-12fps. Slow enough that I can count it.

I've updated all my drivers and followed the steps above, and it still crashed about 30 seconds into the intro battle.

What should I try next?
I'll keep searching the threads for now, but please let me know if you can help.

Modifié par gorskir, 26 mars 2011 - 12:16 .


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xBlitzerx wrote...

Can anyone confirm that downclocking cards back to the stock clocks stops games from crashing? I've had this issue ever since I switched from a 5870 to the 570 superclocked card I have now.

It's done it in ME2, Fallout 3 and Dragon Age 1 and 2. Crysis 2 seems to be fine so far. But the others crash to desktop (the xxx has stopped resonding) has been happening randomly. Some days it won't at all, other times it happens over and over.


I can confirm that it fixed the problem for me and if you read few posts back in this thread for some others as well.

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tylerman29 wrote...

Nah I have a Superclocked 480 and have had no crashing issues in any games.


You should read the complete thread before you post. It fixed the problem for many others with a 5xx card.