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#1401
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Baramon wrote...

andyr1986 wrote...

If your graphics card isn't powerful enough to provide 60+ fps then keeping it on will provide a minimal fps hit. I believe triple buffering mitigates this slightly. 

Otherwise I see no reason to turn vsync off (i hate screen tearing) if your monitor is refreshing at 60hz you aren;t seeing anything more than that no matter what your graphics card is doing.


I was wondering about Bri193's audio setup and if onboard audio was causing a problem there.

I think you had it right. But it makes no sense (to me) why "capping" the framerate at 60 FPS/60 MHz, why it would have any effect on FPSs below that, say at around the 45 FPS range.  But it does; and a big one, obviously, as what used to make it "unenjoyable" to play, it now lets it be better than "acceptable". I guess I've just never run into a situation where my GTX 470 wasn't cranking out FPS above my monitor's refresh rate. It's new territory for me.


I have a dedicated audio card, no audio on my mobo... Yes, I think it is morely likely DA2's XACT implementation is crap... I game using headphones, so prefer listening to enviornmental sounds to pick up clues to events, not some band wheezing away in the background... ;) Also, after listening to an audio loop 2-3 times, it gets rather tiresome... No game's music audio track is that good ... ;)

My monitor is 60Hz and I play all games with max out graphics, and high-res textures and whatever other eye-candy mods I can  install. So, I already have a huge hit that usually keeps my fps below 60Hz/60fps threshold. VSync does little for me apart from adding unnecessary GPU processing. As I mentioned, I get the rare screen tear only during cut-scenes that I can live with..

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foil- wrote...

Tsunami120681 wrote...


Tsunami120681 wrote...

Oh I forgot my specs are Quad core 955 phenom processor 3.2 black edition 8gig corsair xms2 ddr2 Palit Geforce GTX 560Ti 2gig Vram Win7 pro 64bit. Either this game is really demanding or my card slows a bit on full resolution and highest settings hmmm



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What resolution did you try playing it at when you had framerate problems. 

Stupid question, but I've seen it happen before: do you have your monitor plugged into the output from the video card or into the original video plug that came with your computer.  I'm asking because you mention 2GB Vram which sounds like the lingo used by integrated video cards.


Basically its any frame rate thats to high Before the patch and
Hi-res package anything to high would bereal slow and show black shapes
in the terrain. Now its more stable and at 1024x768(4:3) I get 40fps,
so as I go up the frame rate drops. I have trouble anyways with the
higher resolutions cause they don't fit on my screen so 1024x768 is
fine. Im using an HDMI connection. No my graphics card is not
integrated. I just bought it two months ago here is the link for the
card I bought. I works awsome with other games at full settings like
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit and Transformers: War for Cybertron. Link to
my exact card----->
http://www.newegg.co...1-099-_-Product


Interesting, a 2Gigabyte 560Ti.  I didn't know they made them above 1GB.
In any case, the 560Ti is the same GPU I have and I don't have problems.  But I don't have the same board as you.  I don't know how much experience you have with installing video cards so I asked if you plugged your monitor into you newly installed video card because I've seen people purchase new video cards and then plug their monitor back into the port for the onboard integrated card.  How about the power connector to the card.  Could it be loose or not connected?  You should get a windows warning if it is but you never know.




There are 4GB video cards now :) But they only work on 64bit systems :) If I remember, they were ATI cards. I think the most nvidia has is 1.5GB cards.

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Arigard wrote...

I always turn v-sync on in every game i play, as long as i can get close to 60fps. It's just soooo much smoother and tear free. I can't stand screen tearing. It's a game breaker for me.

What framerates are you getting?

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Baramon wrote...

What framerates are you getting?


Getting a solid 60fps for the most part. I pretty much just started the game though so i am not in Kirkwall yet. The game looks/runs great for me when it actually runs. The only problem i am having is the crashing during loading screens. Not only does it crash, but it completely locks up/black screens and i have to hard reset.

I'm using "high" settings though, not "very high".
DX11, 4x AA, 16xAF, v-sync on.

When using "very high" i can't even launch the game.

specs:
i5-750 (@3.3Ghz w/ Corsair A50 air cooler)
radeon 5850 (11.4)
8GB Ram (Ripjaw cl7 10666)
win7 64bit

I've tried running CPU at stock speeds and it still crashes, so i'm fairly certain it is not the OC. My temps are also good and are well under the stock heat sync temps.

I should also mention that DX9 mode seems to work fine.

Modifié par Arigard, 04 avril 2011 - 08:16 .


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Arigard wrote...
The only problem i am having is the crashing during loading screens. Not only does it crash, but it completely locks up/black screens and i have to hard reset.

Have you seen this thread?

http://social.biowar...83595/1#6719374

I can't swear that it's fixed this problem for me, but it's looking promising so far. I couldn't run the ATI Overdrive tool, but in Catalyst I just opened the AMD Overdrive tab, unlocked overdrive, then added a preset (that'll just make an overdrive preset) and edited the preset file as in the other thread. I didn't touch voltages or anything (possibly I should have) but set the two Want_0 values (the 2D clocks) in CoreClockTarget and MemoryClockTarget to match the Want_1 values (the minimum 3D clocks).

*Not* something to do if you're worried about wrecking your GPU, but as you're overclocking your CPU anyway you might want to risk it.

Modifié par AndyW1384, 04 avril 2011 - 11:20 .


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AndyW1384 wrote...

Arigard wrote...
The only problem i am having is the crashing during loading screens. Not only does it crash, but it completely locks up/black screens and i have to hard reset.

Have you seen this thread?

http://social.biowar...83595/1#6719374



Hey thanks Andy. This thread describes my exact problem. I will take a look.

EDIT: looks like a bios update may have fixed my probs. I have a gigabyte p55-ud3r and just installed the latest version of their bios (f8 i believe). Just got out of a 2+ hour session with no crashes.

Modifié par Arigard, 05 avril 2011 - 03:29 .


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foil- wrote...

Interesting, a 2Gigabyte 560Ti.  I didn't know they made them above 1GB.
In any case, the 560Ti is the same GPU I have and I don't have problems.  But I don't have the same board as you.  I don't know how much experience you have with installing video cards so I asked if you plugged your monitor into you newly installed video card because I've seen people purchase new video cards and then plug their monitor back into the port for the onboard integrated card.  How about the power connector to the card.  Could it be loose or not connected?  You should get a windows warning if it is but you never know.




There are 4GB video cards now :) But they only work on 64bit systems :) If I remember, they were ATI cards. I think the most nvidia has is 1.5GB cards.


The above nVidia card he links to is 2GB.  I think the 4GB AMD cards you're refering to are the double GPU versions with 2GB per core.  I think I recall seeing those recently also.  But that's nothing compared to the new AMD-7770 Cuba core processors with 6GB DDR6 just released:

http://www.eteknix.c...on-hd-7770-833/

;)

Modifié par foil-, 05 avril 2011 - 01:37 .


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Spec:
Q6600 @ 2,4Ghz
4GB DDR2-8500, Dual Channel
8800GTS G92 512Mb

Video Settings:
1280x1024
Direct X 11, Quality High
No AA
No AF
No Ambient Occlusion

Issue:
I'm experiencing lag in the middle of the game. At sometime it runs smoothly and then it lags for about 20~30 seconds. It supposed to be running smoothly considering lower graphical settings (No AA/AFF/Ambient Space).

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AMD Phenom II 940 Processor
4GB Ram
Nvidia Geforce 570GTX

All drivers are Up to Date

I have similar problems as well, but only on very high, I can play on high with all the settings on full including the high resolution textures, can even turn up other settings to max on the Nvidia control panel all in DX11, the game runs fine without any problems at all. When I try it on very high with all the settings except resolution (1650X1050) turned either off or right down, the frame rate drops right down, it’s like being a pigeon watching TV. And I get the black triangles or boxes on the ground (artefacting) when looking in certain directions, the drop in FPS can be speradic as well, it dose help turning everything down, this happened in the demo as well. I happy playing on high with the settings maxed out, between high and very high there isn’t much difference when it’s like this. It’s just disappointing that I can’t as I’m pretty sure, I should be able to easily, since Crysis 1 & 2, shogun total war and other new games following in that fashion work fine.

It would be nice if there was an advanced graphics settings option.

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TheCorrupt2k wrote...
I have similar problems as well, but only on very high, I can play on high with all the settings on full including the high resolution textures,


how do you enable high rez textures without selecting "very high". Is that something we can set in an .ini file or something?

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Arigard wrote...

TheCorrupt2k wrote...
I have similar problems as well, but only on very high, I can play on high with all the settings on full including the high resolution textures,


how do you enable high rez textures without selecting "very high". Is that something we can set in an .ini file or something?


First, you have to download and install the high res texture pack.  Once that's done, restart the game and go to Options > Video ... you should see a check box to enable them.   I can confirm that they work on Medium with both DX9 and DX11.

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RaenImrahl wrote...

First, you have to download and install the high res texture pack.  Once that's done, restart the game and go to Options > Video ... you should see a check box to enable them.   I can confirm that they work on Medium with both DX9 and DX11.


i have the Steam version. It says i can't install them and that Steam should do it automatically. I don't remember seeing a checkbox for this in the options, but i'll double check.

omg. haha. i was trying to install the PC patch apparently. I was wondering why the high rez textures were only like 9mb. /facepalm.

Modifié par Arigard, 05 avril 2011 - 05:51 .


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lol

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TheCorrupt2k wrote...

Spec:
AMD Phenom II 940 Processor
4GB Ram
Nvidia Geforce 570GTX

All drivers are Up to Date

I have similar problems as well, but only on very high, I can play on high with all the settings on full including the high resolution textures, can even turn up other settings to max on the Nvidia control panel all in DX11, the game runs fine without any problems at all. When I try it on very high with all the settings except resolution (1650X1050) turned either off or right down, the frame rate drops right down, it’s like being a pigeon watching TV. And I get the black triangles or boxes on the ground (artefacting) when looking in certain directions, the drop in FPS can be speradic as well, it dose help turning everything down, this happened in the demo as well. I happy playing on high with the settings maxed out, between high and very high there isn’t much difference when it’s like this. It’s just disappointing that I can’t as I’m pretty sure, I should be able to easily, since Crysis 1 & 2, shogun total war and other new games following in that fashion work fine.

It would be nice if there was an advanced graphics settings option.


well truth is i really don't know why this game takes up so much power at once, when i looked at the game screenshots i thought the entire game would look beautiful, but well you know...i hope bioware can do something about this, i really like their games kotor, origins mass effect 2, they're really good game developers but thats the one thing that really disappointed me with the game was the graphics, but hopefully...

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 I just got the game and ive tried everything but every time at the first fight scene after the 4th guy i kill the screen freezes up then i get the display driver stopped working  error it says amd driver and mine is updated and i did everthing that most post say and still get it i havent even got to play except that one part and no further its very frustrating.:(

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ladygamer78 wrote...

 I just got the game and ive tried everything but every time at the first fight scene after the 4th guy i kill the screen freezes up then i get the display driver stopped working  error it says amd driver and mine is updated and i did everthing that most post say and still get it i havent even got to play except that one part and no further its very frustrating.:(


Download MSI Afterburner (works with cards of other manufacturers as well) and downclock core/shaders on your graphics card, the game likes to crash on some fabrically overclocled cards.

http://event.msi.com...er/download.htm

Also make sure you have the latest (beta) drivers for your card.

Modifié par Raydenos256, 06 avril 2011 - 11:00 .


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ladygamer78 wrote...

 I just got the game and ive tried everything but every time at the first fight scene after the 4th guy i kill the screen freezes up then i get the display driver stopped working  error it says amd driver and mine is updated and i did everthing that most post say and still get it i havent even got to play except that one part and no further its very frustrating.:(

Have you tried "downscaling" the game to DX9 while you sort it out? At least in DX9 you should be able to play the game. It works for most people.

Getting it to run well in DX11 mode is tricky at best for a lot of people. Requires a bit of work and tweaking, and even then, it's still not satisfactory to some people. You have to be willing to install beta drivers in some instances.

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Raydenos256 wrote...

Download MSI Afterburner (works with cards of other manufacturers as well) and downclock core/shaders on your graphics card, the game likes to crash on some fabrically overclocled cards.

http://event.msi.com...er/download.htm

Also make sure you have the latest (beta) drivers for your card.


Will Zotac FIRESTORM suffice?

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ladygamer78 wrote...

 I just got the game and ive tried everything but every time at the first fight scene after the 4th guy i kill the screen freezes up then i get the display driver stopped working  error it says amd driver and mine is updated and i did everthing that most post say and still get it i havent even got to play except that one part and no further its very frustrating.:(


i had the exact same problem. Turns out a mobo BIOS update fixed it for me. Since updating BIOS I have had zero crashes in 6 hours of gameplay (according to steam).

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I am using 270.51 betas.
Framerates have been greatly improved on my GTX560. I can now play on Very High. However, I'm still only seeing 80-85% usage of my GPU. I highly doubt my CPU is bottlenecking it (i5 2500K @4.3GHz), and this game doesn't seem terribly CPU intensive either.

Modifié par CHaoS_06, 08 avril 2011 - 04:26 .


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I would think my computer could run DA2 maxed out
Specs:
i7 8-core 3.4 GHZ
Nvedia GeForce GT 420 2GB Vram
8GB Ram

I also noticed that in my taskmaneger it only used 328 RAM and wouldn't go higher then that

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urcra wrote...

I would think my computer could run DA2 maxed out
Specs:
i7 8-core 3.4 GHZ
Nvedia GeForce GT 420 2GB Vram
8GB Ram

I also noticed that in my taskmaneger it only used 328 RAM and wouldn't go higher then that



I don't think it can. You have an amazing cpu, a &*^# load of ram, however, the game will only take advantage of 4 cores and it's heavily gpu based like most games. You'll have to get a better graphics card than that, and maybe you can invest in the nvidia 500 series and buy something like a gtx 560ti, that cards performs extremely well with any game. 

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KyiMin wrote...

urcra wrote...

I would think my computer could run DA2 maxed out
Specs:
i7 8-core 3.4 GHZ
Nvedia GeForce GT 420 2GB Vram
8GB Ram

I also noticed that in my taskmaneger it only used 328 RAM and wouldn't go higher then that



I don't think it can. You have an amazing cpu, a &*^# load of ram, however, the game will only take advantage of 4 cores and it's heavily gpu based like most games. You'll have to get a better graphics card than that, and maybe you can invest in the nvidia 500 series and buy something like a gtx 560ti, that cards performs extremely well with any game. 


Thanks

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Thought I'd post this here:

For those of us using an AMD/ATI video card and getting micro-stuttering and getting rid of it by holding the right mouse button, try this:

Put your mouse curser on your skill bar. This was suggested in another thread and I thought I'd give it a try and lo' and behold, it worked, my micro-stuttering was gone and I didn't have to hold down my right mouse button anymore. This still, however, needs to be fixed, but this is a good self-fix until the official fix.

My specs:
Core i7 950 @ 3.8GHz
ASUS Sabertooth x58 Motherboard
6GB G.Skill DDR3 1600MHz
XFX HD6870 Black Edition
60GB OCZ Vertex II SSD (OS)
150GB WD VelociRaptor (Games)

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rabidelfman wrote...

Thought I'd post this here:

For those of us using an AMD/ATI video card and getting micro-stuttering and getting rid of it by holding the right mouse button, try this:

Put your mouse curser on your skill bar. This was suggested in another thread and I thought I'd give it a try and lo' and behold, it worked, my micro-stuttering was gone and I didn't have to hold down my right mouse button anymore. This still, however, needs to be fixed, but this is a good self-fix until the official fix.

My specs:
Core i7 950 @ 3.8GHz
ASUS Sabertooth x58 Motherboard
6GB G.Skill DDR3 1600MHz
XFX HD6870 Black Edition
60GB OCZ Vertex II SSD (OS)
150GB WD VelociRaptor (Games)


What the hell....I have an Nvidia Card...and your solution for the micro-stuttering with the mouse cursor worked!

But I still hope that bioware fix this though.....